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Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 01:43:57 PMMy lifestyle choice? I didn't choose heterosexuality, The FSM (may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage) made me this way. Just like He made you a dimwit.
Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 14, 2013, 02:14:06 PMHey, QuickKarl... gotta say, you lost me, too, with the homosexual remark. To be honest, political debate is very difficult. As I've noted dozens of times on this forum, Joe has his facts and statistics, and Bob has his. Joe's sources are always indisputable. Bob's sources are junk. Joe's behavior and beliefs always stem from honesty, courage, hard work... we all know, however, that Bob's a lazy, dishonest ne'er-do-well.Political debate is still more difficult when you throw in the amount of intellectual effort it really takes to try to present one's point of view... sooner or later, it is all to easy to resort to the politics of the personal, to bring up someone's religion (or lack thereof), race, sexuality, etc. I see it on both sides. On the Limbaugh thread under talk radio, I do see people who'd probably identify themselves as good and true progressives commenting on Rush's weight, which, really, is neither here nor there. I see people who'd describe themselves as tolerant and open-minded comment on someone's gayness or physical appearance. Look, I think that Ann Coulter is not an attractive woman. I think Michelle Malkin is, physically, a knockout. I disagree almost entirely with both women's politics. But if I start basing my disagreement with them on aspects of their physical being they can't really change (race, facial appearance, body weight, sexuality, etc.), I'm really getting derailed, don't you think?We need to see each other with better eyes.
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 14, 2013, 03:04:35 PMIt was a "dig", a spoonful of some participant's own medicine, for the fun of it.I do not believe in a God that has a personal relationship with people, but I would never belittle people that do. But when someone goes out of their way to belittle someone based on their belief, you can be sure that I will belittle them in kind. It's very entertaining to see how much they dislike the taste of their own bile.I agree, certain topics have no place in political debates. Maybe you should remind a few other folks too? Or is it "OK" for them?And Michelle Malkin is incredibly hott - and I do agree with most of her politics (now we wait for some hate filled person to dig up something Michelle said that they disagree with, connect it to me without having the slightest clue as to my position on the topic, and get mad at me when I point out the stupidity of their tactic).
Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 12:36:51 PMRepeal of Roe/Wade. Support of DOMA and similar initiatives. Teaching of "intelligent" design.You might want to wander over to TeaPart.org. 60+ time Noory guest Jerome Corsi, one of the new darlings of the movement, has a front page article up.[/i]You will know them by the company they keep.
Quote from: Cynnie on October 14, 2013, 02:42:21 PMI love you:)Dat was funny
Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 14, 2013, 07:52:17 PMThat's it, that's the scary extremism the Tea Party brings to the table?Allow me to off a few examples of extremism that are actually dangerous and destructive - to our nation, to our economy, to our form of government, and which make the world a more dangerous place.Ignoring the revolution in Libya until the jihadi Muslims hijacked it, then supplying them with weapons and assistanceIgnoring the revolution in Egypt until the Moslem Brotherhood stole it, then supporting themIgnoring the revolution in Syria until al-Qaeda flooded into the country, then supporting them diplomatically, giving them weapons, and nearly providing air support and shelling targets provided by themIgnoring the pleas for help at Benghazi, and going to bed during the attack there instead. Then running out the clock with a pack of lies about it in the run up to the November election.Cutting off military aid to Egypt after the removal of the Brotherhood before they could turn that country into e next IranSpying on the APSetting up saturation spying in the US on all citizens - photographing both sides of all mail, recoding and storing all phone conversations, tracking everyone's internet use, keeping as much financial information as they can get. Next up they want all our private health records as part of ObamaCare. They are looking to see who our associates are on social networking sites.Setting the IRS on their political opponents and denying new organizations status to keep them out of the game during the last election campaign.The illegal use of Executive Privilege in order to obstruct Congressional oversight looking into running guns to the Mexican drug cartels in Fast and FuriousThe illegal use of Executive Orders to create law that either Congress would not agree to, or to change laws he didn't agree withCreation of the illegal czars as a way of appointing a bunch of Marxists and Leftists that would never have received the required Senate confirmation.I would say not addressing the economy in any positive way, and throwing up hurdles when ever and where ever he gets the chance also qualifies as extremism. Even though Carter utterly failed to get the economy on the right path, he was at least trying to do something positive - it's just that his worldview was wrong.There's more, but you get the idea. Actual real examples of extremism, not the old canards like abortion, cutting taxes and teaching creationism.
Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 12:36:51 PMSupport of DOMA and similar initiatives.
Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 08:16:09 PMBack at ya![attachimg=1]
Quote from: Sardondi on October 15, 2013, 12:58:05 PMI call Bullshit. He's your team bubba, not mine. There's no way in hell that's a legit Tea Partier. For more than 4 years your guys have tried to pull provocations at virtually every Tea Party rally there is, by dressing up and acting out as some ridiculous never-was Tea Party false fantasy which fits every leftist's wet dream, waving rebel flags and spewing racial epithets. They've been caught doing it countless times, though that kind of slime can't be embarrassed. Just like this lying POS depicted in front of the WH. J'accuse.
Quote from: UFO Fill on October 15, 2013, 01:07:17 PMI've searched through many news articles on the guy with the Confederate flag. Interesting to me is that I have not found one single quote from him. I've covered Ku Klux Klan rallies and events staged by other white hate groups. Those people are always inarticulate and insulting towards African-Americans. In other words, they are exactly the kind of people who give sound bites that the media love. (I spent 25-years as a news producer, so I know.) I find the lack of a quote or sound bite highly suspicious.
Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 15, 2013, 01:05:07 PMActually I'll give you the benefit here. All too often Tea Party activists dressed in Revolutionary War era costumes when the movement started. Lately, though, I've been seeing the Johnnie Reb queens out and about blaming President BlackMan for all of their ills. I'm not so sure they're the same people who started the tea party outrage 3 years back, but they've latched on.
Quote from: Sardondi on October 15, 2013, 10:53:37 PMStop it. Just stop it. Reasonableness and concession even on essentially minor points is an unfair tactic, and I demand you oppose me - now!
Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 15, 2013, 05:02:42 PMThe Left's sleazy underhandedness is what makes them so endearing. Unless you're more into their riots.They know they can't win people over with reasoned discussion, yet they are zealots fully committed to the cause. These are the results.
Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 13, 2013, 09:48:44 PMYou accuse Cynnie of behaving like a 14 year old girl when you behave like a 7 yr old boy. Take your ball and go home.John McCain, a real life war hero, gets my support over Shirtless Vlad any day of the week. End of story.
Quote from: DanTSX on October 16, 2013, 08:00:14 AMDidn't McCain nearly sink the forestall?Anyways, his military status should be held independent of his political record. He is the worst republican ever.
Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 16, 2013, 08:15:38 AMThere is some controversy regarding that unfortunate incident. I have my own opinions on the matter, but I don`t care to share them HERE.But, let no man ever question the iron in McCain`s fortitude. That man withstood horrendous torture for many years, when all he had to do is agree to....come home. He stayed. Because he stayed, he was brutalized even more.However, as a politician, McCain sucks. Period. And, yes; his military career should be left out of any political conversation.
Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 16, 2013, 06:49:37 AMSay what? My Team? The chap photographed certainly doesn't like like anyone I have seen at any Conservative Party of Canada meetings, and that's my team. I must have missed the super double secret "Let's drive way the fuck down to Washington and impersonate Confederates in front of the White House" meeting. But, you know, us REAL conservatives are very busy, what with our jobs, and paying taxes, and our families and so on. But, with what little free time I have left, I will continue to draw out the bigots and racists and religious extremists in the GOP and Tea Party, who, quite frankly, are a freaking embarrassment to EVERY OTHER CONSERVATIVE IN THE FREE WORLD. But sure, go ahead and deny the truth that is right under your noses. Refuse to believe that the Tea Party is an attractive option for hate groups, that the GOP is almost entirely held in the sway of the Values Voter guys (just look at the number of Tea Party favorites who took time for, their busy day jobs not passing a budget to speak there : http://www.valuesvotersummit.org/schedule). When the going gets tough, try making yourselves look even more sane and reasonable by accusing Obama of being a Marxist, and demanding to see his birth certificate, etc., etc. take absolutist positions on abortion, and gun ownership, and anything else your bible and/or constitution tells you to.But know this - you are so far to the right, you are unrecognizable to Conservatives the world over. You have been trapped in a tiny echo chamber with Rush and the guys from Fox News, and the 20 million or so Americans of voting age in the Bible Belt - about all that remains of the GOP base. This is not a movement - it is a fringe group.
Quote from: DanTSX on October 16, 2013, 12:36:43 PMI chose neither side. The media tends to spit political issues like rival football teams until nobody even knows why they stand for an issue except that "their team" is or isn't for it.I don't put much faith in adherents to Fox News much less than MSNBC. Might as well be waving a football team flag with talking points instead of players.I do lean more conservative, because I support the second amendment So that you can shoot your TV.
Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 16, 2013, 09:18:58 AMThis was over the top on my part, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, and missed the humour in your post. Sorry, Sardondi.