Started by bateman, October 10, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: bateman on October 10, 2013, 06:04:09 PMThese are the people who are condemning the party to a generation of irrelevance. http://www.salon.com/2013/10/10/christian_delusions_are_driving_the_gop_insane/ http://www.salon.com/2013/10/10/glenn_beck_scream_at_your_children_until_they_believe_in_god/
Quote from: Sardondi on October 10, 2013, 10:05:38 PMHeh. Right. Because Salon is where I go when I want to get a reliable, dead-straight take on social or political conservatives, Republicans or Christians. Because I want to get such information from a publication which, from all available evidence, has never employed a single person who could be described thus.
Quote from: bateman on October 10, 2013, 10:07:32 PMThey're both linked to other places though, not Salon-produced pieces.
Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 11, 2013, 12:49:20 PMQuickKarl, you said, "Today, journalism is a complete fraud; the intent being not to inform people, but to mislead them." I suspect that a big part of the problem is that the notion of a truly objective media is quaint and overly romanticized. I see very little genuinely objective news nowadays. Salon certainly has a bias, as do Slate, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, NewsMax, RedState, Rush Limbaugh, MSNBC, Fox, etc., etc., etc. Some will deny this. Some will insist, "Well, MY news source is beyond impeachment; my news source is unbiased and fair." And yet no one is able to hold up such a news source without a great chorus of voices attacking it. For everyone who thinks Democracy Now has no agenda, there is someone who believes The National Review has no agenda.I think that all of these sources, however, are in the business of making money (pleasing its audience). Follow the dollar....
Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 11, 2013, 12:49:20 PM... I think that all of these sources, however, are in the business of making money (pleasing its audience). Follow the dollar....
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 11, 2013, 03:22:57 PMI think it was Citizen Kane that imbibed in me, my cynicism toward journalism and journalists...
Quote from: Sardondi on October 11, 2013, 04:29:33 PMFinally, if there any profession in which some 95% of the members were either Republicans or agreed with their policies, the left would be bleeding from the eyes for it to be destroyed.
Quote from: Sardondi on October 11, 2013, 04:29:33 PMAnd yet that is the news media - except that over 95% of its members are either registered Democrats or agree with Dem policies. So let's dispense with the silly business about "there's no bias here". The media is riddled with it. It's just that the left likes it the bias of the media as currently configured. Which is a shame. Because the worm turns.
Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 12, 2013, 07:34:44 AMYou mean like the banking industry. Yes, you are correct. Break it down.
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 12, 2013, 09:21:01 AMNWIT, can you say Bernanke, Geithner, Lew, Paulson, Blankfein... I could go on, probably for a few hours...
Quote from: Falkie2013 on October 12, 2013, 10:47:49 AMAll those names together read like the Animaniacs singing their names.
Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 12, 2013, 11:41:53 AMIt is, indeed, beyond stupid for anyone to blame all ills on any one party or group. Of course, the blame game goes both ways with people on both sides making big money be selling books that point the finger of blame at conservatives or liberals.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2013, 12:08:07 PMReligion in my view (and it will be when I'm king, okay?) should be eradicated; if believing in aliens landing in the back garden and exploring all your orifices, and having a good seeing to, is the hallmark of loop the loop thinking (and I happen to think it is), then so is the belief that the indoctrination preached about a supreme invisible being masquerading as 'education'; under pain of eternal damnation if you don't believe. That politicians of all colours use it as a hook to try and persuade the masses of their propriety is frankly insulting and laughable to those of us who don't need or desire such a crutch to 'prove' their worth. That those who do the loudest evangelism are held to be salt when the same are later to be found wanting when their own self aggrandising morality is called into question, when their options for explanation are limited as they're caught with their pants around their ankles. Hypocritical, bullying, pompous, sanctimonious assholes. Not that I feel strongly about the topic you understand.
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 12, 2013, 11:57:58 AMAny allegation that I, or others that I perceive to be sincere regardless of their position, have arrived at social and political philosophies due to a lack of intelligence or education, or because of seething hatred, racism, greed, a desire to oppress, lack of empathy and/or compassion, a compulsion to poison the environment, or any of the other myriad absurd accusations typically excreted in reply to a sincere argument, is tiresome and sure to meet with a response.
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 12, 2013, 12:11:28 PMYou are doing precisely that which you accuse your adversary of doing.
Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 12, 2013, 07:37:31 AM... What is it about journalism, acting, and academia that allows the left to dominate and pervade all aspects of it? Of course there is a left bias in these career fields and I 'm not surprised you don't understand it. For shits and giggles I'd love to see if anyone gets it.
Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 12, 2013, 01:07:25 PMYou mean aside from old fashioned blacklisting of anyone that's not Liberal/Left?
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2013, 02:17:02 PMWasn't there a certain gentleman called McCarthy who decided that actors/ directors/ writers/ producers/ poets/ artists were communists, because he said so? Naaaa...couldn't happen.
Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 12, 2013, 05:09:00 PMNone of it excuses the current de facto blacklist of the professions mentioned - academia, 'journalism', entertainment.