Fukushim and what is really happening MUST be a primary topic

[somatichypermutation]

Kaku for about two hours on what a meltdown is and th risks.  Then a guest (maybe with Kaku) on what is actually happening at the plant today and if they have any chance of winning.

I heard they are planning an ice barrier under the plant so huge it has never previously been contemplated.

[Morgus]

John B. Wells covers this almost every week on his Sat shows...

[onan]

Kaku for about two hours on what a meltdown is and th risks.  Then a guest (maybe with Kaku) on what is actually happening at the plant today and if they have any chance of winning.

I heard they are planning an ice barrier under the plant so huge it has never previously been contemplated.

I believe ice barriers have been used but not anywhere the size needed now.

[somatichypermutation]

And John B Wells also believes in black helicopters and the stupidest conspiracy theories going.  I'll take Art.

Onan- I think you are right, it was done at one of our national labs and it worked well.  But won't a meltdown still melt through it? This only contains the water being poured on the reactor?  These are the questions I need answered.

[onan]

And John B Wells also believes in black helicopters and the stupidest conspiracy theories going.  I'll take Art.

Onan- I think you are right, it was done at one of our national labs and it worked well.  But won't a meltdown still melt through it? This only contains the water being poured on the reactor?  These are the questions I need answered.

I don't think any answer, other than we are all screwed to some degree, is coming soon.

[WOTR]

I believe ice barriers have been used but not anywhere the size needed now.

I recalled reading about a company who was planning on doing them in McMurray when I was up there- and they were doing hundreds of feet into the ground.  There was another Canadian company who had done on miles long (I think the reactor was going to be a mile long...)  They have been done- just not on such a large scale in a radioactive area...

There is a really interesting article on this site about the effect that water movement has on freezing when it comes to these projects (not something that I had heard discussed before.)  http://technology.infomine.com/articles/1/606/flooding.mine.groundwater/mine.flooding.aspx

They say that 400 tons of groundwater flows down the hillside at that reactor each day (what a stupid way to measure volume).  I will leave it to the engineers and mathematicians- but it does make you question if it will freeze.  Check the link and there is even the possibility that the wall will freeze some sections but not others.

***Found it.  A company called Moretrench was going to (or possibly has, by now) frozen 500 feet down in our oilsands.  And it was a gold company in Ontario who built the three mile long wall... the price of gold dropped before they actually put it into use- so I suppose it is only proof that they have done it and not that it works.