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Started by Sardondi, May 14, 2013, 01:43:25 PM

Quick Karl

Quote from: Sardondi on October 22, 2013, 07:02:04 PM
You don't understand: we deserve it. Because Noam Chomsky says so. Because George Soros says so. Because...because....because shut up.

I wonder what it is about liberals that they want totalitarian societies with THEM in control? I mean what kind of person actually wakes up in the morning and says to themselves "what can I do to destroy someone's liberty today - freedom should be what I say it is" ?

Sounds like a psychological disorder to me, but I'm no psychiatrist...

The same kind of people cry when a shark eats a baby seal but fight for abortion rights!

Add Saudi Arabia to the list of important nations the Wrecking-Ball-In-Chief has ruined our relationship with.

They've been a military and trading ally since the Kingdom was formed in 1932.  Something tells me Obama will still retain and enjoy strong ties to the radical Islamic Wahabist elements within the government there though.


Juan

Quote from: Quick Karl on October 22, 2013, 07:12:10 PM
I wonder what it is about liberals that they want totalitarian societies with THEM in control?
It shows how deeply ingrained Calvinism is ingrained in the American culture.  Even secularists, such as many liberals. believe that humanity is damned and that only an enlightened few can be saved.  And before you libs squeal, there are lots of conservative and Christian groups who apply Calvinist standards, too.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 23, 2013, 08:32:35 AM
Add Saudi Arabia to the list of important nations the Wrecking-Ball-In-Chief has ruined our relationship with.

They've been a military and trading ally since the Kingdom was formed in 1932.  Something tells me Obama will still retain and enjoy strong ties to the radical Islamic Wahabist elements within the government there though.

Hey, now, the haughty, John Kerry (who served in VIETNAM, mind you), has made assurances that we will maintain a close relationship with the Sand Dwellers.

Frankly, we don`t need Saudi Arabia any longer. Not their stinking oil, or their  terrorists, sometimes referred to as 'exchange students'

Quick Karl

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 23, 2013, 10:24:04 AM
Hey, now, the haughty, John Kerry (who served in VIETNAM, mind you), has made assurances that we will maintain a close relationship with the Sand Dwellers.

Frankly, we don`t need Saudi Arabia any longer. Not their stinking oil, or their  terrorists, sometimes referred to as 'exchange students'

Obama wants to destroy the oil ties with Saudi Arabia because Obama doesn't believe you DESERVE affordable gasoline - I mean, after all, look what he thinks "affordable healthcare" means!

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 23, 2013, 10:24:04 AM
Hey, now, the haughty, John Kerry (who served in VIETNAM, mind you), has made assurances that we will maintain a close relationship with the Sand Dwellers.

Frankly, we don`t need Saudi Arabia any longer. Not their stinking oil, or their  terrorists, sometimes referred to as 'exchange students'


The Saudi's are terrified of Iran, historically there has been bad blood between the Arabs and the Persians (surprise surprise). The Saudi's are mostly Sunni, and Iran is Shia.  The Saudi's have their own Wahabist terrorist problem and have sometimes made deals with them to help keep the lid on things, which has probably been a mistake.

The Saudi's are sort of like Pakistan in that both have people within government that are stabilizing forces friendly to the US, and both have people within the government that are hostile to us and are, frankly, aligned with our terrorist enemies.

Neither are great governments, but it's better to have them as allies - buying US weapons systems, supplying the CIA with intel, acting as counterweights to Iran - than pushing them towards China and Russia.  Each is on Iran's border and serve as counterbalances to Iran.

Pakistan has nukes, and the only reason the Saudi's haven't pursued them is because up to now they didn't think they needed them.  If the Saudi's decide to acquire nukes, Egypt would want them next.


Whatever happens, the State Dept will still let their foreign students in.  Students paying foreign student tuition is big business and is propping up our universities. If they didn't cut off Saudi students after 9/11 they never would.

As far as their oil, if they are to become friends with China a then sell them that oil, the West as a whole will have that much less.  Whether we buy ours from the Saudi's or not (we don't buy much from them now, but Europe does), the rest of the world's supply will be reduced by that amount.  The impact on gas prices would be disastrous.


Obama just cannot be this clumsy of an oaf.  No matter how clueless and incompetent he and the rats that followed him from Chicago to the White House are, they still have the careerists at the State Dept to rely on.  The damage he is causing in our relations with foreign countries is as intentional as his damage to our economy here at home.



Obama needs to be removed.


Next up, add Germany now to the list that so far includes Mexico, Brazil and France of countries finding out their leaders and citizens have had their phones tapped and calls recorded, and have confronted either Obama or Kerry about it.

Now Obama is claiming he had no idea that the ObamaCare signup system is fubared.  'Course not.  Obviously it's just another lie, but let's assume he really is that uninformed about his signature legislation.

That would mean that when the R's were trying to tell him from the end of September until last week, he just wasn't interested.  He would rather bleat about not 'negotiating with a gun to his head', ignore anything anyone else had to say, and refuse to listen to what people were trying to tell him than do any fact finding.

If we are to believe he really didn't have any idea about this, then should we draw the conclusion that his staff is either also out of touch or afraid to give him bad news?  That he'd rather play politics than gain an understanding of a situation and lead?  That he's so ideological that he can't imagine anything going wrong with his pet theories?


It's so funny the Democrat Senators up for re-election next year now want to delay this hideous program.  Where were they last week?

Sardondi

What?! They can't delay implementation! It's the law of the land! What are they, Tea Partiers!?

Quote from: Sardondi on October 24, 2013, 12:05:13 AM
What?! They can't delay implementation! It's the law of the land! What are they, Tea Partiers!?


Their entire response to Tea Party proposals and the shutdown was about politics.  As always.  The D's would rather play politics than do what's right for the country.  Every time.  It's pretty much the only thing they ever think about.  It's about the only thing they do, or do well.  And their accomplices in the Media are always there to support and cover for them.

Obama is even running around now claiming he had no idea there were problems with ObamaCare.  Even though that's what the shutdown was about.  What a lying phony he is.  He's even still claiming it's a great product, even though the handful of people that are finally able to get through end up not wanting it.

Yeah, great idea.  Let's trust the Democrats, the bureaucracy, and the IRS(!) - I still don't get that one - with administering our health care.

As lousy as the R's have been over the past decade, they are still the adults.  The D's are still the whiney, bratty adolescents who base their actions on emotions instead of thinking, and are the ones to act out and be irresponsible.  They should never be let near the levers of power.

Juan

Quote from: Sardondi on October 24, 2013, 12:05:13 AM
What?! They can't delay implementation! It's the law of the land! What are they, Tea Partiers!?
Why it's even settled law.  Upheld by the Supreme Court.  How dare they try to change a law.0

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 24, 2013, 03:21:14 AM

Their entire response to Tea Party proposals and the shutdown was about politics.  As always.  The D's would rather play politics than do what's right for the country.  Every time.  It's pretty much the only thing they ever think about.  It's about the only thing they do, or do well.  And their accomplices in the Media are always there to support and cover for them.

Obama is even running around now claiming he had no idea there were problems with ObamaCare.  Even though that's what the shutdown was about.  What a lying phony he is.  He's even still claiming it's a great product, even though the handful of people that are finally able to get through end up not wanting it.

Yeah, great idea.  Let's trust the Democrats, the bureaucracy, and the IRS(!) - I still don't get that one - with administering our health care.

As lousy as the R's have been over the past decade, they are still the adults.  The D's are still the whiney, bratty adolescents who base their actions on emotions instead of thinking, and are the ones to act out and be irresponsible.  They should never be let near the levers of power.
Whiny, bratty adolescents who've mismanaged Social Security and Medicare.  Once again you make a case without the facts for partisan demagoguery.
Talk about irresponsible.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: UFO Fill on October 24, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Why it's even settled law.  Upheld by the Supreme Court.  How dare they try to change a law.0
So what would you like changed?  No, really, surprise me.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 23, 2013, 01:18:01 PM
Next up, add Germany now to the list that so far includes Mexico, Brazil and France of countries finding out their leaders and citizens have had their phones tapped and calls recorded, and have confronted either Obama or Kerry about it.
So what?  What exactly do we owe any of these countries?

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 24, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
Whiny, bratty adolescents who've mismanaged Social Security and Medicare.  Once again you make a case without the facts for partisan demagoguery.
Talk about irresponsible.



You do know Social Security and Medicare are going bankrupt, right?  And that the R's want to have talks with the D's about how to strengthen them but so far have been turned down?   

And that Obama stole a big chunk from Medicare to fund ObamaCare.

No, of course you don't know any of that. 

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 24, 2013, 11:01:15 AM
So what?  What exactly do we owe any of these countries?



I don't even know had to respond to something that ridiculous, other than to say Obama understands the value of having friends and allies or he wouldn't spend time destroying the ties to ours.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 24, 2013, 11:15:56 AM


You do know Social Security and Medicare are going bankrupt, right?  And that the R's want to have talks with the D's about how to strengthen them but so far have been turned down?   

And that Obama stole a big chunk from Medicare to fund ObamaCare.

No, of course you don't know any of that.
Again with the misrepresentations.  When is Social Security going "bankrupt"? 2033?  How about Medicare? 2026?  Maybe?  Seems like a long time and a lot of opportunity to shore it up.  Yet all Paul Ryan wants to do is raise the eligibility age and trim benefits.
And Obama didn't "steal" a chunk from Medicare.
As usual, you stick to parsed facts and talking points - the $750 million dollars re-allocated was mostly in duplicated processess and coverage but don't let that deter you from your sanctimonious diatribe.
Truth is your biggest enemy.  But of course you don't know that.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 24, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
... Obama didn't "steal" a chunk from Medicare...

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 24, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
... the $750 million dollars re-allocated was mostly in duplicated processess and coverage...

Yeah right.  This pretty much speaks for itself.

A great example of what we mean by "O-bots', and 'easily led'



You like to bash health insurance companies.  Are you aware Medicare turns down a higher portion of claims - total number and as a percentage of total claims - than any of them?  No, of course you don't. 

How does stealing the $750 Million improve things?

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 24, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Again with the misrepresentations.  When is Social Security going "bankrupt"? 2033?  How about Medicare? 2026?  Maybe?  Seems like a long time and a lot of opportunity to shore it up.  Yet all Paul Ryan wants to do is raise the eligibility age and trim benefits...



Those are a couple of proposals. 

This is what we mean when we say the R's are the adults.  That's ok, we'll happily continue in that role.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 24, 2013, 11:43:06 AM


Those are a couple of proposals. 

This is what we mean when we say the R's are the adults.  That's ok, we'll happily continue in that role.
The R's are the dolts.  Never a productive proposal, just shift more burden onto working people.  The arrogance is astounding.  You dare call yourselves adults after the shutdown temper tantrum? Classic conservative doublespeak.

L.B. Johnson tapped the Social Security 'locked box' and made the funds available to the general fund to pay for the Viet Nam War and it has been pilfered ever since to pay for programs, for better or worse, have created a whole class of people indentured to living off the largess of productive people. Human nature what it is, takes the 'easy' . Government comes along and makes  things 'easier' to be single than a family and the welfare programs destroy family unity and make more dependence on the government.
" A democracy is where two wolves and a sheep vote what's for dinner. A republic is where the sheep has a gun".
another thought.............
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/10/thomas-dilorenzo/the-bigots-guide-to-hating-southerners/

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on October 25, 2013, 03:57:25 AM
L.B. Johnson tapped the Social Security 'locked box' and made the funds available to the general fund to pay for the Viet Nam War and it has been pilfered ever since to pay for programs, for better or worse, have created a whole class of people indentured to living off the largess of productive people. Human nature what it is, takes the 'easy' . Government comes along and makes  things 'easier' to be single than a family and the welfare programs destroy family unity and make more dependence on the government.
" A democracy is where two wolves and a sheep vote what's for dinner. A republic is where the sheep has a gun".
another thought.............
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/10/thomas-dilorenzo/the-bigots-guide-to-hating-southerners/
I am forever split on LBJ.  For the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act he gave, in return, the fucking Vietnam War in escalation.  If it is ever proven he was even remotely involved in JFK's death he should be stricken from the history books.

“I think Barack knew that he had God-given talents that were extraordinary. He knows exactly how smart he is. . . . He knows how perceptive he is. He knows what a good reader of people he is. And he knows that he has the ability â€" the extraordinary, uncanny ability â€" to take a thousand different perspectives, digest them and make sense out of them, and I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. . . . So what I sensed in him was not just a restless spirit but somebody with such extraordinary talents that had to be really taxed in order for him to be happy. . . . He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do.”

- Valerie Jarrett, quoted by New Yorker editor David Remnick in his book The Bridge



Well.  This explains Val's role as Rasputin.  As an operative in Chicago's Daley political machine, she sure doesn't have much expertise in national security, foreign policy, economics, or working with Congress - the usual areas of expertise a top advisor to a President would have.   She was a red diaper baby along with Alelrod, so maybe that makes up for other areas of lacking.

How much influence?  Where is she in the hierarchy of advisors?  Apparently neither Obama or Michelle make a move without her input, and she has a full Secret Service security detail assigned to her.

This should answer any remaining questions about why these people are excruciatingly incompetent.


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Quick Karl

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 27, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
“I think Barack knew that he had God-given talents that were extraordinary. He knows exactly how smart he is. . . . He knows how perceptive he is. He knows what a good reader of people he is. And he knows that he has the ability â€" the extraordinary, uncanny ability â€" to take a thousand different perspectives, digest them and make sense out of them, and I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. . . . So what I sensed in him was not just a restless spirit but somebody with such extraordinary talents that had to be really taxed in order for him to be happy. . . . He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do.”

- Valerie Jarrett, quoted by New Yorker editor David Remnick in his book The Bridge

Geez just reading that makes me ill...


Sardondi

Now, this would embarrass me: Obama's Ratings Are Lower Than Crack-Smoking Toronto Mayor's http://politix.topix.com/homepage/8872-obamas-ratings-are-lower-than-crack-smoking-toronto-mayors
And the Toronto Mayor was even caught on camera geeking the pipe.

I blame white privilege. Or Bush.

Juan

I read where James Carville said Obama needs to take a hit off that pipe.

Sardondi

Quote from: UFO Fill on November 11, 2013, 12:10:18 PMI read where James Carville said Obama needs to take a hit off that pipe.
The Louisiana Nasality said, “I think the best thing he can do is take a toke on the mayor of Toronto’s crack pipe.”

'We are the ones we've been waiting for'

- Barack Obama


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