Explosions at Boston Marathon

[onan]

Bill Maher is a fairly well known (in the US) stand up comedian. He became a bit more well know when he had a tv show called Politically Incorrect. That show came to a screeching halt soon after 911. He made the assertion that the 19 terrorists of 911 were not cowards. His premise was it took less courage to bomb from the air than to fly an airliner into a skyscraper. I have to agree with that statement.


The difficult part of this branch of the thread is there is no "comfort zone" regarding islam and the percentage of muslims that are or can be whacknuts. We can make arguments about how other religions have had their moments, but in the present, islam says it is ok to kill someone that paints a picture of the prophet. If no muslim followed that belief and/or also trained people to bomb innocents this argument wouldn't exist. But muslims have brought this upon themselves.


Certainly there are historical reasons that explain in much more detail why there is so much enmity towards the western world. But one has to at some point just admit any faction of any religion that supports terrorism is just wrong.

[analog kid]

Comparing the systems of government that Christianity has given us (freedom of religion, women's rights, etc.) to the tyrannical cesspools that Islam has given us (sharia law, enslavement of women, etc.) only highlights how morally confused you are.


Why are you so eager to sympathize with radical Islam?

One could argue the constitution protects us from a theocracy of Christianity, and those things like freedom of/from religion and women's rights are a result of the constitution allowing secularism, despite Christianity. There's a lot of examples of how the more secular a nation is, the more peaceful and prosperous it is.  The founding fathers being mostly deists it surely must have been important to them.

I know there's a world of difference between that and radical islam, but all religion is a problem for humanity in my view.

[Yorkshire pud]

Bill Maher is a fairly well known (in the US) stand up comedian. He became a bit more well know when he had a tv show called Politically Incorrect. That show came to a screeching halt soon after 911. He made the assertion that the 19 terrorists of 911 were not cowards. His premise was it took less courage to bomb from the air than to fly an airliner into a skyscraper. I have to agree with that statement.

Thanks for the info.. I genuinely didn't know who he was.

The difficult part of this branch of the thread is there is no "comfort zone" regarding islam and the percentage of muslims that are or can be whacknuts. We can make arguments about how other religions have had their moments, but in the present, islam says it is ok to kill someone that paints a picture of the prophet. If no muslim followed that belief and/or also trained people to bomb innocents this argument wouldn't exist. But muslims have brought this upon themselves.


Certainly there are historical reasons that explain in much more detail why there is so much enmity towards the western world. But one has to at some point just admit any faction of any religion that supports terrorism is just wrong.

Absolutely agree 100%. The PIRA had a similar philosophy, their 'justification' was because of events happening hundreds of years before. There is no justification for terrorism of any sort, but I can see how a sequence of events leads up to it.

[Juan]

Well, well, well.  DEBKA (accuracy about the same as Maj. Ed Dames) says that the bomber boys were actually agents of the US and Saudi Arabia assigned to infiltrate Muslim terror organizations in Chechnya and the surrounds.  It seems the Muslims turned the boys into double agents with murderous results.

Alex Jones has more than met his match, it would appear.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well, well, well.  DEBKA (accuracy about the same as Maj. Ed Dames) says that the bomber boys were actually agents of the US and Saudi Arabia assigned to infiltrate Muslim terror organizations in Chechnya and the surrounds.  It seems the Muslims turned the boys into double agents with murderous results.

Alex Jones has more than met his match, it would appear.

Cynic. 




But it has given me an idea: make a thread that is contributed with plausible but wrong lines of a background story to the event...and someone edit it to make a concrete story that is Jones esque, and introduce it on the net...subtly (even better if a YT vid could be done), light the touch paper and step back, let that wind up toy go.

[Eddie Coyle]

Well, well, well.  DEBKA (accuracy about the same as Maj. Ed Dames) says that the bomber boys were actually agents of the US and Saudi Arabia assigned to infiltrate Muslim terror organizations in Chechnya and the surrounds.  It seems the Muslims turned the boys into double agents with murderous results.

Alex Jones has more than met his match, it would appear.

If any group knows about blowback from hare brained schemes regarding "double agents" it would be DEBKA.

           That said...I still call bullshit. Shocked DEBKA didn't mention Iran and it's nuke program in  Tourette's like fashion

[Pragmier]

Reports are surfacing authorities have 3 more in custody related to the bombings.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/breaking-boston-police-three-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-151027478.html


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/01/3-more-suspects-taken-into-custody-in-boston-bombing-police-say/

[Eddie Coyle]

 
            I understand student visas for MIT, Harvard,Stanford,Yale...

            But for UMASS/Dartmouth, aka "the 13th grade"   hardly the best and brightest. Curtail that program forthwith.

[PB the Deplorable]

            I understand student visas for MIT, Harvard,Stanford,Yale...

            But for UMASS/Dartmouth, aka "the 13th grade"   hardly the best and brightest. Curtail that program forthwith.

They charge out of state tuition rates, which are much higher.  It's getting to be a real problem in Calif, the in state kids get passed over so the schools can charge the foriegn and out of state kids more

[Eddie Coyle]

They charge out of state tuition rates, which are much higher.  It's getting to be a real problem in Calif, the in state kids get passed over so the schools can charge the foriegn and out of state kids more

               It's actually the inverse here, where even illegals get discounts for state colleges and we have "foreign nationals" paying a 1/3(or less) of what Mass residents pay. It's quite disgusting. Even moreso today.

[PB the Deplorable]

Dirtbag parent #1 and dirtbag parent #2 are now planning on staying home instead of coming to the US.

These people have learned nothing, and are getting terrible advice.  Done right, not only would they become media darlings after a brief frenzy, they would get their own reality show - maybe something somewhere between the Keeping up with the Kardashians and Lost. 

[Juan]

I heard a report this morning that Mrs. Widow is refusing to take the body of the dead bomber boy.  She says she wants nothing to do with him.

[Pragmier]

So far the only family that appears on the up-n-up has been the uncle. Maybe they should consult his publicist.

[Yorkshire pud]

Dirtbag parent #1 and dirtbag parent #2 are now planning on staying home instead of coming to the US.

These people have learned nothing, and are getting terrible advice.  Done right, not only would they become media darlings after a brief frenzy, they would get their own reality show - maybe something somewhere between the Keeping up with the Kardashians and Lost.

And in the land where ratings rule, it would only happen if there was enough of an audience watching to make the advertisers plough money into the programmes being aired... A reflection of the people in all it's prurient and salacious glory. You say dirtbag as if being the parents of killers is unique to non Americans. You shouldn't believe the media that you say you despise so much.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22370695

[PB the Deplorable]

... You say dirtbag as if being the parents of killers is unique to non Americans. You shouldn't believe the media that you say you despise so much.

I say dirtbag parents because of what they've said and the way they've acted. 

One kid goes bad - ok, it happens.  Two like this - if they weren't actively encouraging this stuff then it's at least a parenting failure. 

What does non-Americans have to do with it?

[Juan]

Now there are reports that Saudi Arabia notified the US about the elder bomber boy in 2012.  Also, the Saudis denied him a visa to travel to Mecca.

[Meanandnasty]

Hmmm.  Dirtbag #1 and Dirtbag #2.  If Noory reads this thread, he has just learned two new names to  call his haters in his response e-mails.

[Sardondi]

Remember all the terrible confusion that so many in the Ministry of Information had about the motive for the attack? They ignored the deluge of reports that the brothers Tsarnaev had gone in for a radical brand of Islam, that elder brother had been to Russia for terrorist training and had been put on the "watch list". No, there was a lot of head scratching going on: Gee, who knows what goes on in the heads of these crazy kids today? Bet there was tension at home. Bullying. Right! That's the ticket! All this "confusion" went on a couple of weeks.

But it seems the police had the motive (as if they didn't already) the instant they arrested Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, because he left a note spellig out why he did it. In what amounts to his political last will and testament. And did it confirm that the motive for the attacks was the teenage angst that some of the usual whores in the press suggested? Oops, sorry: it was an attack on America for "attacking Muslims" in Afghanistan. Dzhokhar reminded us that in the twisted, hate-filled world of radical Islam, "an attack on one Muslim is an attack on all Muslims". According to Dzhokhar, the victims of his and his brother's bombs at the Boston Marathon were just "collateral damage". This seems a little disingenuous since the bombs were placed where they were to do exactly what they did, which was kill bystanders. Otherwise Dzhokhar and Tamerlan would have manned up and attacked a US military installation. But they tend to shoot before they allow terrorists like the Borthers Tsarnaev to kill them so they had to look for softer targets.

Then why the hell didn't the police or the FBI release the goddam note which spelled out the motive for the attack? And why the media's reluctance to call a spade a spade and not a shovel? Because, as I have said before, it didn't fit the prescribed liberal narrative. It was an embarrassment to those who were so eager to suggest the killers were those white gun nuts. It showed how stupid were the ones who pontificated about how there was no evidence to suggest Islamic terrorism was the basis for the attack. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2013/05/note_praising_allah_didn_t_float_pc_boat

Just another example of why we can't trust them. They're not just wrong; they're on the other side.

[Eddie Coyle]

 
       Tsarnaevs were influenced by Alex Jones not Radical Islam...(repeat endlessly in a zombie like fashion)  ...lot easier to blame the portly huckster in Texas, than the death cultists.

      The widow Tsarnaev should be facing 60 years in a Supermax as well.

[Juan]

No, not Islamofascism!

[PB the Deplorable]

Remember all the terrible confusion that so many in the Ministry of Information had about the motive for the attack? They ignored the deluge of reports that the brothers Tsarnaev had gone in for a radical brand of Islam, that elder brother had been to Russia for terrorist training and had been put on the "watch list". No, there was a lot of head scratching going on: Gee, who knows what goes on in the heads of these crazy kids today? Bet there was tension at home. Bullying. Right! That's the ticket! All this "confusion" went on a couple of weeks...

... liberal narrative. It was an embarrassment to those who were so eager to suggest the killers were those white gun nuts...

Just another example of why we can't trust them. They're not just wrong; they're on the other side.

Obama with his usual comments about 'we don't want to jump to conclusions' while at the same time sending Axlerod out on the talk show circuit to remind everyone 'it was tax day'...

[PB the Deplorable]

Is this piece of filth - mother of 2 terrorists - still living in the US and sucking up handouts?  Why?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031354/America-real-terrorist-boys-best-Boston-Marathon-bombers-defiant-mother-rails-against-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-s-guilty-verdict-bizarre-rant.html

[3OctaveFart]

Was wondering what became of that she-wolf.
She is a treasonist and her public comments manifest that.

[3OctaveFart]

Boston revisits its uncomfortable history with the death penalty.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/tsarnaev-sentencing-boston-reckoning-death-penalty

[Eddie Coyle]

    So just how did that chubby cunt who married Tamerlan Tsarnaev never get charged with being an accessory despite an avalanche of evidence pointing to her knowledge/involvement in the plot?

    Her Paternal Grandfather and Father are Yalies...and Skull Bones.

[Avi]

t?    Her Paternal Grandfather and Father are Yalies...and Skull Bones.

Oh, nooo  ! Say it ain't so! They are hereby relieved of all responsibility for their actions, since they were no doubt being directed from behind the scenes by the nefarious lizard people  . Free the Joker!

[Eddie Coyle]

Oh, nooo  ! Say it ain't so! They are hereby relieved of all responsibility for their actions, since they were no doubt being directed from behind the scenes by the nefarious lizard people  . Free the Joker!

    How the daughter of Bonesman ends up marrying an unemployed Chechen boxer/jihadist can only be answered by one thing: Reptilians playing with their global chess board.

     There's a local boxer whose claim to fame is that he flattened Tamerlan in less than 40 seconds during one of the Chechen Speed Bump's "semi-pro" matches circa 2009.

[3OctaveFart]

She remarried and has a child, according to news reports. That was rather pat.
I remember reading she was working 60 hours a week to support Tammy.

[Eddie Coyle]

She remarried and has a child, according to news reports. That was rather pat.
I remember reading she was working 60 hours a week to support Tammy.

   I doubt the 60 hour claims considering the Tsarnaev clan's history of stealing/cheating/defrauding-literally all of them were busted for shoplifting at various times and were on the dole- and Russell's trust fund background makes me dubious of her working even 20 hours a week.

[3OctaveFart]

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/23/power-dzhokhar-tsarnaevs-middle-finger/