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Started by Sardondi, February 22, 2013, 01:57:12 PM


http://csharpsarms.com/

http://www.shilohrifle.com/
These are the two best reproduction companies for Sharpes rifles.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1874-sharps.php/
Uberti also makes about every kind of reproduction 6 shooter that existed, both black powder,cartridge and cartridge conversions of cap and ball,
'Remingtons, Colts,LeMats , early single action Smith and Wesson and some lesser known kind
'Navy' revolvers were .36 cal (.357) and 'Army' were .44 cal.

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_63/rifles-1874-sharps-rifle.html

The Remington 1858 was a stronger weapon than any of the Colts  as it had a strap over the cylinder. The Colts had a 'wedge' that had to be pulled to remove the cylinder that was unnecessary on the Remington also that wedge could be lost in the 'action' of the moment. Many Calvary troops carried 2, 3 , 4 pistols.

Falkie2013



If one got to know real motorcycle gangs as I did when I'd tromp around Oakland and went in to talk to the Angels at their HQ ( I was foolheartly but they liked me because in those days I wore a suit all the time ) watching fake MC gangs kind of pales in comparison.

I was offered the protection of the HA if anyone ever screwed with me.

The implication was that the person or persons would wind up in a hole in the desert.

If I could ever find out the identity of a guy who's been stalking me on line for 12 years, I'd serously take them up on it.

He got my blog deleted and hacked my email and Facebook accounts and I had to start over.

And keeps logging on line using about a dozen handles.

I get the mods of sites to remove them as soon as they appear but its annoying as hell to keep seeing his unjustified personal attacks.

The guy even harassed my Mother over the phone for pete's sake.

And alll because he hates my political views.

When you become visible on the net, the nutjobs find you.

>:(

My neighbor here also used to hang with Sonny Barger way back then.

He's told me stories that are incredible.


sleeplessinca

Quote from: stevesh on February 23, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
I think Have Gun, Will Travel was the most 'literary' of the old westerns.
Earliest memories are of the Lone Ranger and Roy Rodgers.  Many childhood pictures feature us kids  in cowboy hats with stars drawn on the front. Paladin from "Have Gun Will Travel" was a real favorite - and my pretend name (ballsy gal from day 1).  I have a mustang I ride everyday so the roots are deep.
Richard Boone was a mighty swarthy role model for a sweet little girl, wasn't he?
<scratches head>

Sardondi

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on September 23, 2013, 01:15:27 PM
http://csharpsarms.com/

http://www.shilohrifle.com/
These are the two best reproduction companies for Sharpes rifles.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1874-sharps.php/
Uberti also makes about every kind of reproduction 6 shooter that existed, both black powder,cartridge and cartridge conversions of cap and ball,
'Remingtons, Colts,LeMats , early single action Smith and Wesson and some lesser known kind
'Navy' revolvers were .36 cal (.357) and 'Army' were .44 cal.

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_63/rifles-1874-sharps-rifle.html

The Remington 1858 was a stronger weapon than any of the Colts  as it had a strap over the cylinder. The Colts had a 'wedge' that had to be pulled to remove the cylinder that was unnecessary on the Remington also that wedge could be lost in the 'action' of the moment. Many Calvary troops carried 2, 3 , 4 pistols.
Uberti has been a reliable manufacturer of American Frontier West firearms and ACW weapons since IIRC the late 1960's. By the late 60's, Colt Arms had stopped making the Colt SA Army pistols, known to most as the "Colt.45" that "won the West". It was just not to be found unless someone wanted to part with a pistol they had owned for many years, which was rare. So Uberti Firearms of Italy, saw the need and filled it. Uberti started with the Henry Rifle, IIRC, and then the Colt .45. Then they stated making "buffalo guns" like the post-war "rolling block" and trapdoor Springfields, which most folks were familiar with in the shortened "carbine" configuration shown here:





and the Uberti Sharps carbine...



Dr. Beachcombing's Strange History, which is my second-favorite fun website in the whole world, had a pretty long discussion, with reader input, about whether and why Americans kept their sabers/sabres blunt. It is interesting that the point you make about cavalrymen often abandoning sabers in lieu of multiple brace of pistols came up as well (because I made it - heh). Here's the link: http://www.strangehistory.net/2013/07/31/blunt-swords-and-the-american-civil-war/

There's also a surprisingly accurate (for Hollywood) movie about bushwhacking and the guerrilla warfare waged against Union troops by "Bloody Bill" Anderson and other commanders of irregular troops committed to the Confederate cause. It's called Ride With The Devil, and starred Tobey McGure and was directed by Oscar-winner Ang Lee, but I was completely ignorant of its existence until I saw on a cable channel 3-4 years ago. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134154/
But it accurately depicts how the irregular cavalry (at least the irregular cavalry in Missouri) carried 4 pistols and even more, plus bowie knives, but didn't bother with awkward and cumbersome sabers. I've read of other cavalrymen, at least Confederate horsemen, who speak of the necessity of carrying, first, a 5- or 6-shot revolver, which was almost certainly a cap-and-ball black powder weapon, since brass-cased cartridges were still at the very cutting edge of development, and only the Henry Rifle used the all-inclusive single-unit cartridge. If the trooper could get a revolver, he also tried to get one far enough advanced that it had the removable cylinder, so that if he couldn't afford multiple pistols, at least perhaps he could buy multiple cylinders, for relatively quick removal and replacement with a fresh loaded cylinder during the fight. But 4 or 5 or even 6 separate, loaded pistols was best, with a hideout or Derringer in the boot or pocket as a last-ditch weapon.

Sardondi

Quote from: Falkie2013 on September 23, 2013, 01:45:48 PM

If one got to know real motorcycle gangs as I did when I'd tromp around Oakland and went in to talk to the Angels at their HQ ( I was foolheartly but they liked me because in those days I wore a suit all the time ) watching fake MC gangs kind of pales in comparison.

I was offered the protection of the HA if anyone ever screwed with me.

The implication was that the person or persons would wind up in a hole in the desert.

If I could ever find out the identity of a guy who's been stalking me on line for 12 years, I'd serously take them up on it.

He got my blog deleted and hacked my email and Facebook accounts and I had to start over.

And keeps logging on line using about a dozen handles.

I get the mods of sites to remove them as soon as they appear but its annoying as hell to keep seeing his unjustified personal attacks.

The guy even harassed my Mother over the phone for pete's sake.

And alll because he hates my political views.

When you become visible on the net, the nutjobs find you.

>:(

My neighbor here also used to hang with Sonny Barger way back then.

He's told me stories that are incredible.
That's a hell of a story. But I'm having trouble figuring out how it wound up in this thread, where I fear it might miss being seen by many people. But hey, if my comments on Low Winter Sun, even though made because it was also an AMC show, and a sister series to Hell On Wheels, then I guess a story about Hells Angels can be here too. Live long and prosper.

sleeplessinca

Quote from: Sardondi on September 23, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
That's a hell of a story. But I'm having trouble figuring out how it wound up in this thread, where I fear it might miss being seen by many people. But hey, if my comments on Low Winter Sun, even though made because it was also an AMC show, and a sister series to Hell On Wheels, then I guess a story about Hells Angels can be here too. Live long and prosper.
So funny you wrote this because I kind of wondered if I posted or went the wrong place. ;D

Sardondi

Quote from: Sardondi on September 23, 2013, 11:05:00 AM...And speaking of "That Devil Forrest"...
Please pardon the rudeness of quoting oneself, but I recalled after posting this that I have a Forrest connection...and no, it's not membership in his Pulaski, Tennessee Klan. I've written elsewhere on this forum about a great uncle who attained advanced old age, well into his 90's when he died sometime in the late 1970's. He was an irascible old man, quite difficult to talk to because he usually was finding fault or complaining about something. I didn't like being around him as a 12 year old. But my dad knew that "Uncle Obie" (Obadiah) was a treasure trove of information about history. And so my dad on several occasions took an old Sony cassette recorder and just started talking to Uncle Obie about his life. Dad still has the tape and it still plays, but I haven't heard it in more than 30 years and I've forgotten all but the bare outlines. But I do remember him telling stories of his father's Civil War service as a cavalryman. For one of the Alabama regiments (which he recalls although I don't.) And he rode with Nathan Bedford Forrest. I remember Uncle Obie said that his dad confirmed the story about Forrest having a horse shot from under him, and just when it looked like he would be captured, Forrest, a powerful man, stopped a Union trooper's horse, removed the Yank from the saddle, mounted in his place, and then pulled the Union trooper back up and set him behind so that any shots at Forrest would risk killing the Yankee. Quite a character.

Hopilong Cassidy, William Boyd
When I was 4 or 5 my father took me to work with him and as he was chief pilot for Ford he took me on a trip to Cleveland and Hopilong was at the airport , I had a picture of him holding me up in his arms.

ItsOver

Quote from: HorrorRetro on February 23, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
Check your local non-cable/satellite stations for Me TV.  Their line up, which is obviously free, contains a lot of classic westerns.  They have:  The Rifleman, Wagon Train, Wild, Wild West, The Rebel, Gunsmoke, Daniel Boone, Bonanza, Big Valley, etc. The rest of the lineup is mainly vintage shows.  It's the main station I watch.

http://metvnetwork.com/programs.php

Affiliates:
http://metvnetwork.com/wherewatch.php

I should have listened to you earlier, HR.  I was on the road last week and was surfing the local channels in the hotel, when ME-TV popped-up.  What a wonderful line-up of classic TV.  Everything from the old westerns to Thriller to Columbo and even Jorch's favorite, the Twilight Zone.  :D

Out of the hundreds of complete crap channels on Direct TV, not one in my area had ME-TV.  However, a local station does broadcast ME-TV directly over the airwaves.  A $10 antennae later and I'm getting a very clear signal of ME from the local station, all at no further cost.

As soon as college football is finished, it's goodbye Direct TV and more money in my pocket.

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