Richard C. Hoagland

[Juan Cena]

I wonder how long RCH's love affair with Elon Musk will last?

[VtaGeezer]

It's hard to beat Steve Quayle, though.  :

I hope Hoagland isn't reading this.  He may get the notion to follow Quale's route and resuscitate his psuedoscientific BS business by folding Jesus into it.

[L1NGUS]

Richard C. Hoagland is actually the Travelocity Roaming Gnome.

[Rico999]

I've always liked Hoagland.   I think he's on the outs with George, though, which explains why he was put on with Syrett and why his show appearances are down to twice a year and barely that these days.

I suspect Hoagland's going to be one of Art's first guests and I hope that's the case.  The thing is with RCH is that even though some, well, a whole lot of his work is very out of the mainstream, he's a great talker and an entertaining guest.   Art can keep him under control and as always, asks the right questions at the right time. 

Guests like Hoagland are what built the show, like it or not.  I'd rather listen to him than some patent medicine quack any day.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

Just heard RCH on the 200th episode edition of The Unexplained with Howard Hughes.  He was actually concise and on point with his answers, and respectful to the host without interrupting him.  There is hope for him after all.

[astroguy]

Haven't listened to it yet, but Howard is one of the very few paranormal show hosts that I have some respect for. He will ask the skeptical questions, and he will interrupt the guests to get them back on track.

[bwillard01]

   I got a chuckle out of Howard's glowing introduction of Mr. Hoaglund: delivered a "flawless" presentation at a recent conference, "blew everybody's socks off," enraptured audience, etc.

[Northern Nights]

Hoagland is always entertaining though he might be more madman than genius, probably a combination of both.  I hope he'll be appearing on MITD.  It was amusing to hear Howard pronounce Noory's name as "Newry".  C2C was popular in the U.K. in Art's day but I'll bet nobody there listens to it now.

[expat]

Hoagland's 70th birthday was not celebrated on C2C -- much to his chagrin, I imagine. Here's a report of the podcast with Ritchie Allen:

http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2015/04/richard-hoaglands-70th-birthday.html

[Juan Cena]

Hoagland's 70th birthday was not celebrated on C2C -- much to his chagrin, I imagine. Here's a report of the podcast with Ritchie Allen:

http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2015/04/richard-hoaglands-70th-birthday.html

He probably calls it the 19.5th anniversary of his 50th birthday.

[bsbishop]

As others have said, RCH is better with Art than with anyone else.

He typically just seems too condescending to me. It's like he's talking crazy and then says something where the interviewer is supposed to connect the non-obvious (but RCH thinks they're plainly obvious) crazy-dots.

It also gets old with him saying he worked at NASA and was Cronkite's science advisor. When I hear this I think, "It doesn't mean you were any good. It just means you worked there."

The other problem he had is that when he was touting the face on Mars you could see it and say, "Wow - that looks like a face! ...and it's on Mars!" You could show that photo to your friends and they'd say the same thing.

Everything since then has either been us having to imagine something is there (like apartments on the moon or whatever - blurry streaks that look like a photography problem with the lens or the film, not evidence) or he claims something is there but then says NASA won't admit to it. May as well claim that there's a miniature alien golf course on Mars - just that NASA won't release the photos.

Now he's into torsion field / free energy stuff but there's never any proof. Just him saying that his torsion meter went off the charts when he stood in a field or some such nonsense. He also goes on and on about the science of it as if just saying "science" makes his random babbling "fact". I think it's also a play to put himself on a pedestal with "I'm a scientist and you're not that's why you're not understanding my babble."

I don't even find his crazy talk babbling entertaining. It's just tired, now.

[Lunger]

I noticed something interesting the other day and it made me think of Hoggie.


I was looking at a hi-rez picture of the moon on an original iPad and I came across what looked like an entire complex of buildings.  I would have sworn that I was looking at 6 or 7 warehouse type building lined up neatly and just waiting for their Moon Alien owners.

So, I get the same picture on a Retina Display MacBook, go to the Moon Building Complex and...totally rock outcroppings.  The differences between the picture on the different resolution devices was really quite stunning.

[expat]

Now he's into torsion field / free energy stuff but there's never any proof. Just him saying that his torsion meter went off the charts when he stood in a field or some such nonsense.

It's worse than that. Sometimes the frequency increases, sometimes it decreases. He makes no distinction between up and down, it's just a signal. He keeps saying he "measured" the torsion field but he has never said what the measurement actually is, or even what units the field is measured in. It's junk science -- just flim-flam.

[bsbishop]

It's worse than that. Sometimes the frequency increases, sometimes it decreases. He makes no distinction between up and down, it's just a signal. He keeps saying he "measured" the torsion field but he has never said what the measurement actually is, or even what units the field is measured in. It's junk science -- just flim-flam.

I remember him recently going on and on about some guy in California who was just trying to make his car cheaper to operate but then stumbled upon making it a perpetual motion machine.

It was something like, "It runs on water. The water gets split into Oxygen and Hydrogen and then fed into his engine. The result is water which he just feeds back into the reservoir. This guy was just trying to make his car cheaper to operate and he opened up a whole new realm of science! Physicists are really going to need to study this."

It's just so over-the-top insane. I think there was a mention of "big oil" shutting this guy down. I can't imagine anyone at any of the oil companies giving any sort of attention to this guy because it's all nonsense.

[ONeill]

It's worse than that. Sometimes the frequency increases, sometimes it decreases. He makes no distinction between up and down, it's just a signal. He keeps saying he "measured" the torsion field but he has never said what the measurement actually is, or even what units the field is measured in. It's junk science -- just flim-flam.

The first question should be - what's the baseline value Richard and how did you measure it?

[expat]

The first question should be - what's the baseline value Richard and how did you measure it?

Absolutely right. Astroguy asked that question -- and was met with silence.
http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_082.php

[ONeill]

Absolutely right. Astroguy asked that question -- and was met with silence.
http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_082.php

Good stuff, thanks expat. There are so few people that take time to explain things as basic as how any measurements have to be made to have any meaning.

[SaucyRossy]

Absolutely right. Astroguy asked that question -- and was met with silence.
http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_082.php

Expat, you run the blog on rch right? Not attacking you but legitimately curious. Why spend so much time on him? It's like shouting into a void right? Or are you afraid people take rch too seriously?

[expat]

Expat, you run the blog on rch right? Not attacking you but legitimately curious. Why spend so much time on him? It's like shouting into a void right? Or are you afraid people take rch too seriously?

I think of it as a service to humanity. Hoagland's favorite subject matter is stuff I happen to know a lot about, so I see right through him whereas I know his fans think he's a genius. As an example, not everyone is familiar enough with the Tsiolkovsky equation to realize that Hoagland once spouted sheer bullshit on C2C for four hours, based on a total misuse of the equation. Hoagland flat-out lied about the latitude of the Port-au-Prince earthquake (saying it was 19.5°, of course) then when challenged by a caller wriggled out by saying "I was thinking of geodetic latitude." Noory was satisfied with that but I know it was bullshit.
http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2010/01/some-latitude-for-error.html

Plus I enjoy writing. I make my living at it.

[maureen]

I think of it as a service to humanity. Hoagland's favorite subject matter is stuff I happen to know a lot about, so I see right through him whereas I know his fans think he's a genius. As an example, not everyone is familiar enough with the Tsiolkovsky equation to realize that Hoagland once spouted sheer bullshit on C2C for four hours, based on a total misuse of the equation. Hoagland flat-out lied about the latitude of the Port-au-Prince earthquake (saying it was 19.5°, of course) then when challenged by a caller wriggled out by saying "I was thinking of geodetic latitude." Noory was satisfied with that but I know it was bullshit.
http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2010/01/some-latitude-for-error.html

Plus I enjoy writing. I make my living at it.

nicely refuted, Expat! I live close to the volcano Popocatépetl, known locally as Don Goyo (Mr. Gregory), at 19.05.00° N- would that count for RCH? You have good blogs. Thanks.

[expat]

ha-ha, he might claim it was a "hit" After the huge quake at Fukushima, he claimed that its longitude was 120° East of the Great Pyramid. He was 08° 46' adrift.

[Centurion40]

ha-ha, he might claim it was a "hit" After the huge quake at Fukushima, he claimed that its longitude was 120° East of the Great Pyramid. He was 08° 46' adrift.

Awesome.  Just checked out your blog too!  Nice.

[The Coincidence Kid]

All Hoagland shows should be handicapped. No references to "the data," no rocks that look vaguely like something or other.

[Saucer Smeared]

As others have said, RCH is better with Art than with anyone else.

He typically just seems too condescending to me. It's like he's talking crazy and then says something where the interviewer is supposed to connect the non-obvious (but RCH thinks they're plainly obvious) crazy-dots.

It also gets old with him saying he worked at NASA and was Cronkite's science advisor. When I hear this I think, "It doesn't mean you were any good. It just means you worked there."

The other problem he had is that when he was touting the face on Mars you could see it and say, "Wow - that looks like a face! ...and it's on Mars!" You could show that photo to your friends and they'd say the same thing.

Everything since then has either been us having to imagine something is there (like apartments on the moon or whatever - blurry streaks that look like a photography problem with the lens or the film, not evidence) or he claims something is there but then says NASA won't admit to it. May as well claim that there's a miniature alien golf course on Mars - just that NASA won't release the photos.

Now he's into torsion field / free energy stuff but there's never any proof. Just him saying that his torsion meter went off the charts when he stood in a field or some such nonsense. He also goes on and on about the science of it as if just saying "science" makes his random babbling "fact". I think it's also a play to put himself on a pedestal with "I'm a scientist and you're not that's why you're not understanding my babble."

I don't even find his crazy talk babbling entertaining. It's just tired, now.

Art knew how to handle him. Shut his ass down when he went off topic and toed the edge of "making fun of" at times. Art made RCH fun to listen to. Noorey buys into his BS and thus he's boring. I listened to his old "Mars and the Moon" Show and Art really did handle him well. Listen to "The Colors of Mars" on how shitty a job Noorey did. 2 hours of RCH droning on about fucking Iraq with zero coverage of the supposed topic. 

[gx2music]

Hoagland has appeared on a new episode of "The Unexplained"
http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-207-richard-c-hoagland-update

He was incredibly rude and obnoxious to the host, Howard Hughes - who wanted to just ask some questions that were sent in by his listenership.  I honestly thought at one stage that Howard would pull the plug on the interview, but being the absolute gent and professional that he is , he just soldered on.   He's a better man than me... i would have put the phone down.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

Thanks for that gx2, Howard has one of the best podcasts, I'll give it a listen.  It's funny trying to guess what mood RCH will be in for any given interview, sometimes he's really nice like the bateman interview, and other times he is rude and condescending like some Coast appearances.

[Yorkshire pud]

Hoagland has appeared on a new episode of "The Unexplained"
http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-207-richard-c-hoagland-update

He was incredibly rude and obnoxious to the host, Howard Hughes - who wanted to just ask some questions that were sent in by his listenership.  I honestly thought at one stage that Howard would pull the plug on the interview, but being the absolute gent and professional that he is , he just soldered on.   He's a better man than me... i would have put the phone down.

Agreed; you can almost feel his finger over the 'cut' fader.


Twenty minutes in and as if any further proof were needed; he's (RCH) a narcissist. Spouts so much shite.

[Cynnie]

I have always like RCH, but he needs to be wrangled. That's why I don't like hearing him with anyone other than Art

Exactly! Art always knows when to rein him in

[expat]

Thanks for the heads-up, I wouldn't have known about that otherwise. I listened, I blogged.

http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2015/06/richard-hoaglands-incredible-arrogance.html

[expat]

If anybody's curious about the Explorer 1 problem that Hoagland point-blank refused to discuss, details are here:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_C._Hoagland#Mathematical_incompetence