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The Callers are starting to sound scripted...anyone else notice this?

Started by Avron, July 17, 2008, 11:51:58 PM

Avron

 I was listening last night, which BTW was a new low for c2c...anyone hear that nonesense? Anyway, when snoorzy started taking calls, it hit me like a ton of mutilated cow: These callers are SCRIPTED!! I sure wish I knew how to get proof of this...but listen to it! Listen for these little clues: they all seem too smart; you will notice that for the apparent intelligence level of the caller that they are all too interested or too "believing" in what they are saying...OK I'm not expressing that right...but also: I swear some of the voices sound like they are the same person supposedly calling from different locations...
  Tell you guys what, I will write more on this when I can devote more thought to it, and also I want to say more about that idiotic show last night about that woman with the 5-dollar "ebook"...that had to be the absolute worst ever...

MV/Liberace!

i haven't listened to an ENTIRE show hosted by snoors in approximately 4 years.  actually... well... yeah i'd say about 4 years.  therefore, i must say i'm VERY detached from what's happening with "his" show these days.

however, here's what i have noticed in the few instances i have given c2c a brief spin in recent history.

1) while i didn't get the impression the calls are scripted, they are MOST DEFINITELY screened.  and screened thoroughly.  every caller seems to be selected for the purpose of setting george up with an under-hand, low-speed softball pitch, which he doesn't proceed to hit out of the park.  rather, he waits for four balls in order to walk to 1st base.

2) call me arrogant on this one.  i don't give a shit.  the callers are totally culled from a new audience.  art's audience has long since given up on this pap.  george's new audience is far from the league art's audience played in.  they, frankly, appear to be comprised of new-age, psychobabble-buying trailer trash who all jump up and down to tell everybody that they practice wicca.  they believe EVERYTHING they hear, unless of course it came from the popular mechanics analysis of 911 evidence.  that's where they draw the line.

3) their primary purpose in calling is to seek the readily available approval or sympathies of the host who himself wouldn't survive without this mutually available, low-rent, symbiotic back-slapping that apparently exists between george and his trailer audience.

4) george's audience (and by direct extension, his callers) is (are) symptomatic of what's wrong in america today.  too many people are satisfied with reality tv shows, eating at applebee's and wearing shirts that "say things" on the front.  yeah, i know we're selling GNS t-shirts here.  what do you want from me... a blank white t-shirt that conveys adequately the fact george sucks?  george's audience is quite possibly the stupidest collection of humanity i have ever listened to.  when someone calls in with even a HINT of sanity, say, for instance a caller a couple weeks ago who postulated that perhaps oil prices might be the result of market forces, george immediately started quoting every alex jones dvd he's ever watched.  i've never seen a larger collection of herd-mentality waterheads.

unfortunately, when art occasionally hosts, these assholes don't go into the caves where they belong.  they continue to "participate" like the immortally present cockroaches they are.  equally depressing is the fact that the call screening continues, even when art hosts.  somebody on this board said that the screening stopped when art returned from manilla.  this is not true.  the last time i heard art was when ed dames was on.  he knew the names and locations of each caller prior to taking their calls.  this can only be achieved through screening.  almost a year ago, i heard a caller ask art why he's screening, and art replied that the show has always been screened while guests are on, but not during open lines.  this is also untrue.  why in the hell did he say this?  my memory is not that short, and i started listening to this show in 1993.  c2c was COMPLETELY comprised of unscreened calls... both during guests and open lines.  i guess this last portion of my post is somewhat tangential.  oh well.  c2c is dead, my friends (as mccain would say).

Avron

While I totally agree and concur with everything you just said, I must again digress...if you listen to these screened callers...welllll...while it's not a conclusion I have reached, I think I'm beginning to hear evidence of more than just the absolute dumbest humans on terra firma...I could sure be wrong, but it's sounding like the show has finally sunk to a point where they can no longer trust *any* caller...so they have their own, waiting for their cues...
  ...it's just sounding that way, I don't know this to be fact YET.

MV/Liberace!

avron... you very well might be correct.

they say that when you listen to radio, you are more readily able to differentiate between truth and deception than when you watch tv, because your senses aren't divided.  it's why i cringe when i hear snoors read those scripted tahiti village ads.  it's just audio vomit.

moop

I've always found it beyond belief that the callers are always telling George what a genius he is and how much they have learned from the show. It seems like every call starts with the caller heaping praise on Noory. The only rational explanation is the caller is a plant. There can't be that many people that believe Noory has an ounce of smarts. It just can't be.

Spikegirl

Quote from: moop on July 20, 2008, 09:39:36 PM
I've always found it beyond belief that the callers are always telling George what a genius he is and how much they have learned from the show. It seems like every call starts with the caller heaping praise on Noory. The only rational explanation is the caller is a plant. There can't be that many people that believe Noory has an ounce of smarts. It just can't be.
It isn't. Any other talk show you listen to on any station, even when Art, Ian or Knapp have done the show, this does not happen. Yes, once in a while someone will say "Good show..so and so" or something like that, but not to the extent that they praise the Snoron. It is my belief that Snoory's ratings are crashing and burning and this is a desperate ploy on the part of Premrad to act like everything is status quo and copascetic.

EvB


This may be a little off the wall - but I wonder if Phil Hendrie's routine of actually making up callers and making them as outrageous as possible was inspired, partly, by this phenomenon.  Not from C2c specifically - plants of talk radio and talk TV is a long-standing tradition.

Selenolycus

Well, um, maybe we should have an organized call-in sometime one night and see if any of us can get through to express the message (in a polite way, mind you), since calls are screen we'd have to be devious at first, but it'd be an interesting experiment at least.

Anyone want to organize?

Spikegirl

Quote from: Σεληνόλυκος on July 21, 2008, 07:44:29 PM
Well, um, maybe we should have an organized call-in sometime one night and see if any of us can get through to express the message (in a polite way, mind you), since calls are screen we'd have to be devious at first, but it'd be an interesting experiment at least.

Anyone want to organize?

I know of someone on another site who said that she called into the show and was triple screened before she was allowed on with the Snoron. Tommy was very nervous and kept asking her what she was going to say. She had a UFO story to relate.

Selenolycus

Quote from: Spikegirl on July 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
I know of someone on another site who said that she called into the show and was triple screened before she was allowed on with the Snoron. Tommy was very nervous and kept asking her what she was going to say. She had a UFO story to relate.

Hmm, did the call-screening start after Clear Channel took-over, or what? I'm not too clear on the history. Triple-screening is pretty intense. "Open lines" my ass.

EvB

Quote from: Spikegirl on July 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
I know of someone on another site who said that she called into the show and was triple screened before she was allowed on with the Snoron. Tommy was very nervous and kept asking her what she was going to say. She had a UFO story to relate.

People can be CRAZY - and not everyone is a quick and composed on-air as Art - so normal screening would be okay with me ("normal" defined as "talk to this person a few seconds to a minuet and see if they're nuts - and if they're nuts make sure they are INTERESTING nuts.") But THIS is, well -- NUTS!

Spikegirl

Quote from: Σεληνόλυκος on July 21, 2008, 07:59:22 PM
Hmm, did the call-screening start after Clear Channel took-over, or what? I'm not too clear on the history. Triple-screening is pretty intense. "Open lines" my ass.

I think the call screening started after Snoory took over, and it was pretty obvious that he cannot even handle a conversation with a fifth grader.

Max

art only started the screening after moving to the Philippines, and when he came back they set him up with the same equipment in pahrump.

nowitall

Actually, Hendrie was first with the fake callers. Noory is soo bad that Hendrie's show is the backup late night thing to listen to 'round heah.


MV/Liberace!

i sure wish hendrie would go back to his old format.  it was by far the funniest, most entertaining thing i have ever heard on the radio.  his new show is just so disappointing to me.

mikemcc

It also seems like an awful lot of callers are drunk on their asses when they get to George. I certainly understand that some people have speech impediments or have had catastrophic brain injuries (I have a close friend who is smart as a tack but always sounds like he's on day three of a bender because of a brain injury), but I think the overwhelming majority of callers who sound drunk ARE drunk.

I don't know if this happens because callers have to hold for so long that they get snookered while they are waiting, or if it's just that the HAVE to drink to be able to tolerate George. But if these folks are already drunk when they call, can't the screeners figure out that, hey, maybe they shouldn't be on the air?

MV/Liberace!

mikemcc... welcome to gns.  you clearly are a vessel of sanity and clarity.

i think if i were the producer of a show hosted by a mush-mouthed stroke victim impersonator, i'd try to get as many drunk people on as possible.  after all, the perception of incompetence and incoherence can be a relative thing.

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