Dr. Steven Greer exposé - I need a C2C show

[HAL 9000]

Can you help? My research on Steven Greer has mushroomed out of control. I have over 40 sites open in Firefox as documentation of his fraudulent shenanigans. Let me give a few examples: (all of this, BTW is in the public domain)

He constantly whines about needing money, and begs for donations on countless websites, however, he owns two homes:

home #1: $1.3 million/5,600 ft2/4BR/4 fireplaces/4 bath/2 half-bath/62 acres
home #2: $1.1 million/3-story brick w/basement/2,835 ft2/14 total rooms/6 BR/4½ bath/fireplace in very exclusive area.

On a recent IRS filing for one of his 501(c)(3) tax-exempt "educational" foundations, Greer lists revenue (contributions) for that year as ~$956,000. However, he lists $206,854 to a company as expenses for, "training, lectures management, meeting and office space, educational materials, printing books/DVDs." These expenses are then deducted from revenue to get a "total assets" figure of $731,887. But wait!

Oopsie fucking daisy! The company that Greer paid $207,000 to for management/office space/materials/books/DVDs - that company is wholly owned by... guess who... Dr. Steven Macon Greer.

The more I dig, the more "shell" organizations I find. I always knew he was a charlatan, but now I'm finding out he's a nutjob (delusional like John Leer) and fraudulent.

BTW, the above monetary example only concerns the tax-free donations for one of his foundations - this is NOT his personal income from numerous and other various sources.

So below you'll find a link to a C2C show I'd love to have the audio for:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/01/30

The audio would be helpful in identifying one of his fraudulent schemes. An upload to a place like Mediafire would be ideal. TIA

[ziznak]

I had no idea fraud could pay so well... hmmmmmmmm

[Frys Girl]

Steven Greer is a scam artist, like all other Coast to Coast AM guests.

[AnnG]

OMG, has Steven Greer been asking for donations to buy himself another house or to redecorate?!  I thought he was looking for funding to produce a documentary on disclosure, research the origins of a suspected ET being, and to build a lab to allow the production of free energy devices.  Imagine the nerve of asking for public funding before he personally impoverished himself and sent his wife to live on the street. 

No wonder you think he is a "delusional nutjob".  Who gives up an exceedingly well-paying career that probably allowed him to pay for those two homes, and then opts to run educational foundations that train people to make peaceful contact with ETs, collect info on suppressed green technologies, and disseminate information about the history of contact between ETs and the people of the earth?? 

BTW, what was his "personal income from numerous and various other sources"?  Don't just tease us--let's have the facts about those "sources" and fat paychecks, as well as your sources.   

[stevesh]

OMG, has Steven Greer been asking for donations to buy himself another house or to redecorate?!  I thought he was looking for funding to produce a documentary on disclosure, research the origins of a suspected ET being, and to build a lab to allow the production of free energy devices.  Imagine the nerve of asking for public funding before he personally impoverished himself and sent his wife to live on the street. 

No wonder you think he is a "delusional nutjob".  Who gives up an exceedingly well-paying career that probably allowed him to pay for those two homes, and then opts to run educational foundations that train people to make peaceful contact with ETs, collect info on suppressed green technologies, and disseminate information about the history of contact between ETs and the people of the earth?? 

BTW, what was his "personal income from numerous and various other sources"?  Don't just tease us--let's have the facts about those "sources" and fat paychecks, as well as your sources.

I'm thinking you could probably answer those questions better than Hal can, Mrs. Greer.

[McPhallus]

I'm thinking you could probably answer those questions better than Hal can, Mrs. Greer.

If you check out the recent episodes of Dark Matters Radio, there is an excellent one where several people from inside his little UFO cult talk about it from the inside.

[LacyWoodrow]

I'm thinking you could probably answer those questions better than Hal can, Mrs. Greer.

good call.

[Sardondi]

Yeah, you haters are obviously members of the government-energy corporation complex. You know, the one which keeps a close eye and firm grip on any and all information about how our extraterrestrial friends gave us free energy.

[coaster]

OMG, has Steven Greer been asking for donations to buy himself another house or to redecorate?!  I thought he was looking for funding to produce a documentary on disclosure, research the origins of a suspected ET being, and to build a lab to allow the production of free energy devices.  Imagine the nerve of asking for public funding before he personally impoverished himself and sent his wife to live on the street. 

No wonder you think he is a "delusional nutjob".  Who gives up an exceedingly well-paying career that probably allowed him to pay for those two homes, and then opts to run educational foundations that train people to make peaceful contact with ETs, collect info on suppressed green technologies, and disseminate information about the history of contact between ETs and the people of the earth?? 

BTW, what was his "personal income from numerous and various other sources"?  Don't just tease us--let's have the facts about those "sources" and fat paychecks, as well as your sources.

Isnt your husband the one who tells people that moths are "light beings" and charges people an arm and leg to sit in a field in middle of the night while he feeds them bullshit?

[HAL 9000]

To be fair, though AnnG may be related, she is not Mrs. Greer (unless using a pseudonym). Greer's wife is Emily K. Greer.

Mr. Greer occasionally uses his wife in financial and real estate transactions. An example is when Greer claims that, "I'm a medical doctor, and I cannot afford to turn my house into a solar or wind property." (See Youtube clip)


Steven Greer Solar Lie


What Greer doesn't mention are two things:

1) He has not practiced medicine since 1998 (only practiced 7 years)
2) He had solar work done on his house under his wife's name: http://tinyurl.com/ajs8rkt
(You can see the building permits for his $12,000 new covered porch, and $20,000 for their solar panel system located in #2 above)

I have other transactions regarding Greer, but they are on a computer in a different state.

Open up Google Earth, and type in 37 59 24 N 78 45 31 W  to see his 62 acre estate.

His second house in an exclusive Washington D.C. neighborhood was purchased for $810,000 on April 11, 2003, is currently assessed at $1,054,270, and estimated current value is ~$1,236,486.

Am I doing OK so far, AnnG? 

[McPhallus]

You would think that his questionable business/financial/ethical dealings might have some impact on his medical career.  I wonder if he's ever been disciplined and/or censured by the people who oversee licensing.

[LacyWoodrow]

1) He has not practiced medicine since 1998 (only practiced 7 years)

My brother is currently on his way to being a Medical doctor of osteopathic (D.O.), which is the rival term for MD. He says it's around 1-8 years residency after Med School depending on the job. Clinic docs usually do 1 year, Neurosurgeon 8 years.
Makes me wonder if some of those 7 years were part residency, which basicly means he's shadowing a doctor as a doctor, but cannot practice independently until his years of training are finished. If I know what type of Doctor he is, MD/DO and the field, I can tell ya.
My first guess is that's the case. The reason I mention that is because Doctors in Residency only make about 52k a year.  My brother says even a bad doctor makes 180k, and the good ones up to 600k after their residency is over. If he's hurting for money and has a medical PH.D degree, my only thoughts are that he wasn't cut for the job.

[ChandlersDad]

On an irrelevant note, he has one heck of a good body for a man his age! Somewhere in his busy life style, he finds time to work out hard and heavy (and it shows).  He is ufology's reigning muscle queen (and I use the word "queen" purposely).

[Juan]

You're not making a gay joke here, are you?

[Sardondi]

Looks to me like Dr. Steve is a juicer.

[HAL 9000]

My brother is currently on his way to being a Medical doctor of osteopathic (D.O.), which is the rival term for MD. He says it's around 1-8 years residency after Med School depending on the job. Clinic docs usually do 1 year, Neurosurgeon 8 years.
Makes me wonder if some of those 7 years were part residency, which basicly means he's shadowing a doctor as a doctor, but cannot practice independently until his years of training are finished. If I know what type of Doctor he is, MD/DO and the field, I can tell ya.
My first guess is that's the case. The reason I mention that is because Doctors in Residency only make about 52k a year.  My brother says even a bad doctor makes 180k, and the good ones up to 600k after their residency is over. If he's hurting for money and has a medical PH.D degree, my only thoughts are that he wasn't cut for the job.

With all due respect to your brother, his figures are off. There is essentially no such thing as one year of residency. It goes a little something like this:

1) 4 years undergrad
2) 4 years medical school
3) 3 years residency for "normal" positions like general practitioner, pediatrician, E.R., etc.
4) 3 additional years of "fellowship" (total of 6 years) for specialties - neonatologist, pediatric intensivist, other sub-specialties
5) general surgery 5 years
6) pediatric surgery - 5 years general + 2 additional years pediatric only

an so on.

Steven Greer was an E.R. physician at a small hospital in North Carolina. I took into account his 3 year residency, so he only practiced as an attending (independent) physician for 7 years. He quit to pursue his UFO scams.

Though he used to be an E.R. physician, he is not certified (American Board of Emergency Medicine). His emergency room claim is what they call "Self-Designated Practice Areas," which just means he calls himself that. A doctor can call themselves lots of things when filling out their information to the state licensing board. Though in many of his short biographies he has been called an E.R. surgeon, he was not ever a surgeon.

I have investigated his licensure records in both North Carolina and Virginia (public record and easy to find) and there have been no complaints (Roger Lear, however, has been reprimanded in the past). Being a UFO/alien nutjob does not disqualify one from being a physician.

Since Steven Greer moved to Virginia in 1998, he has not practiced medicine. He does maintain his licensure in Virginia (pays his biennial license fees), but has not worked as a doctor since leaving North Carolina.

You can see his North Carolina licensure records here:
http://tinyurl.com/a6vcom4

You can see his Virginia licensure records here:
http://tinyurl.com/acsmfnv

Click on the tabs at the links above to view the various information.

And just BTW, I found the show I originally requested 

[Schuyler]

With all due respect to your brother, his figures are off. There is essentially no such thing as one year of residency. It goes a little something like this:

1) 4 years undergrad
2) 4 years medical school
3) 3 years residency for "normal" positions like general practitioner, pediatrician, E.R., etc.
4) 3 additional years of "fellowship" (total of 6 years) for specialties - neonatologist, pediatric intensivist, other sub-specialties
5) general surgery 5 years
6) pediatric surgery - 5 years general + 2 additional years pediatric only
.....
You can see his Virginia licensure records here:
http://tinyurl.com/acsmfnv

How do you account for the discrepency here? The licenses say he graduates in 1987 with an M.D. from East Tennessee. The Virginia license says he completed his residency one year later in 1988 from MAHEC, U of NC. When you look up THAT site, at least today, it is a three year residency program. Was it a one year back in 1988?

[b_dubb]

How do you account for the discrepency here? The licenses say he graduates in 1987 with an M.D. from East Tennessee. The Virginia license says he completed his residency one year later in 1988 from MAHEC, U of NC. When you look up THAT site, at least today, it is a three year residency program. Was it a one year back in 1988?

only one possible explanation ... the hospital traveled back in time while he was finishing his residency

[onan]

wiki says

In some states of the United States, physicians may usually obtain a general medical license to practice medicine without supervision after completing one year of internship in the state of their license. Many residents have medical licenses and do legally practice medicine without supervision ("moonlight") in settings such as urgent care centers and rural hospitals. However, in most residency-related settings, residents are supervised by attending physicians who must approve of their decision-making

[Schuyler]

In some states of the United States, physicians may usually obtain a general medical license to practice medicine without supervision after completing one year of internship in the state of their license. Many residents have medical licenses and do legally practice medicine without supervision ("moonlight") in settings such as urgent care centers and rural hospitals. However, in most residency-related settings, residents are supervised by attending physicians who must approve of their decision-making

Thanks for that. There's still a discrepancy. Greer says he started med school in the Fall of 1980, or at the latest in 1981, so he ought to have graduated 4 years later in 1984 or maybe 1985, but the license information provided by Hal 9000 say he graduated in 1987 and COMPLETED his residency in 1988, and got a license in 1988. So there's a three year gap in there for attending med school--he took LONGER than normal, and a two year gap in the normal three year residency--he took SHORTER than normal. Either he took seven years to finish med school, or? all with no visible means of support. I'm not claiming there's anything weird enough to be worthy, but the dates here still don't add up very well.

[Snorey]

Did you ever post your research on Greer?  I searched this site but can't find it.

[stevesh]

I believe HAL was banned from CG before he posted his Greer stuff.

[ziznak]

surprised he didn't at least try to make an alt... or did he???

[stevesh]

I imagine he has, for lurking purposes, but his posting style was so distinctive I doubt if he could get by without being noticed.

[Agent : Orange]

Whoa... HAL got banned? When and why?

[ksm32]

First off, I think Greer is wrong about the price of going solar and wind, im installing a 5 Kwatt system next year for about $7000. That can run up to 2000 sq ft if you're smart about it. Although powering one of his homes may be a quarter mill..
Also, if he is on da juice he should know it's bad for the heart. Why does he have Mickey Rourkes mouth ?? turtle with lips

[Yorkshire pud]

Whoa... HAL got banned? When and why?

In order too above: A couple of months ago...and because of posting the results after stalking other members on here after being warned not to do so, didn't apply to him. He was keen to reveal others' real identities but surprisingly reluctant to reveal his own: strange that? Some might believe he had sociopath and psychotic symptoms, others couldn't possibly comment.

[Agent : Orange]

In order too above: A couple of months ago...and because of posting the results after stalking other members on here after being warned not to do so, didn't apply to him. He was keen to reveal others' real identities but surprisingly reluctant to reveal his own: strange that? Some might believe he had sociopath and psychotic symptoms, others couldn't possibly comment.

I figured it was something along those lines... he was scary at digging on the net.

[BobGrau]

I figured it was something along those lines... he was scary at digging on the net.

He's the Youtube user 'GLPsucksdonkeyballs' - go say hi.

I agree with MV's reasons for banning him, as to do otherwise would be somewhat hypocritical, but the place ain't the same without hal.