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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

cweb

I think that a lot of people have been doing the math and it doesn't add up.

Guest for five hours = drag out the conversation, could get boring
Guest, then open lines = lots of open lines all week (callers will repeat, get diluted because the show is shrinking)
Guest, then another guest =  more work for producer to book, run out of interesting guests sooner

It's a losing situation any way you slice it. And just how do you not wear out a host who you've asked to do almost double the work each night?

3OctaveFart

Quote from: trostol on April 14, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Art Bell
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I wouldn't give you a wooden nickel, Art.

diowulf

Quote from: albrecht on April 14, 2016, 12:04:35 PM
1996-03-19 (show with lots of cat talk because he trapped a feral cat and adopted it and was trying to find a name.) Art mentioned that he liked the name "Asia" and if he ever had a daughter he would name her "Asia."

Cool find!

diowulf

Listened to some old gabcasts the other day and forgot how annoying Heathers voice was. I can't listen to it. I don't wish her any ill will, hope she succeeds if there's a market out there for her. 5 hours? I can't imagine listening to anyone that long, and I can't listen to her for 5 mins.

CornyCrow

Quote from: diowulf on April 15, 2016, 09:57:11 AM
Listened to some old gabcasts the other day and forgot how annoying Heathers voice was. I can't listen to it. I don't wish her any ill will, hope she succeeds if there's a market out there for her. 5 hours? I can't imagine listening to anyone that long, and I can't listen to her for 5 mins.
Sure.  What would provoke anyone to make such a decision?  Someone who obviously does not understand their audience.  Most people need a reason to stay up so late, something to keep them awake, good programming, an engaging host.  It's an imposition on people to expect them to stay up even later for a mediocre presentation. 

   

CornyCrow

I must have missed something years back during the Sirius period.  I found it odd that there was such a quick transition by Sirius from Art's show to Noory's.  It seemed as though there was a very speedy transition from Art's complaints to his departure and then C2C appearing. 

Concerning the technical glitches with Sirius, we had them, but not as bad as some were reporting, but then there seemed to have been many people with no problem at all. 

If MITD started out with Art trying to shift the show to Heather, could he have suggested that to Sirius, which they rejected - could that have also been a part of the squabble between them, causing Art to leave? 

Auslandia

Quote from: Segundus on April 15, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
Sure.  What would provoke anyone to make such a decision?  Someone who obviously does not understand their audience.  Most people need a reason to stay up so late, something to keep them awake, good programming, an engaging host.  It's an imposition on people to expect them to stay up even later for a mediocre presentation. 



Again, why does it actually matter?  Art isn't the host anymore so the distaste, outrage, etc. is over a show that has existed less than 1 year. There's no legacy, no real reason to even care about it if Art isn't hosting it.

bobo17

Guys
you are ALL missing the point!
I am the only one who can save this situation.
I no all the people, art keith, bob and sue crane etc.
I can solve this.
I just need the respect and admiration from my fellow bellgabbers and all will be well

Please please recognize how important i am to the future of Art Bell being in radio
I will give you a nother warning....if you don't give me support, consider my offer
of saving this unfortunate situation done...I will not be mocked by posters who have contributed
nothing to the sucess of Art.
I am the one who can solve all this stuff and finally get rid of heather and bring back
Art.
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

you have been warned for the last time.
lets make this happen
bobo

Roswells, Art

Quote from: bobo17 on April 15, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Guys
you are ALL missing the point!
I am the only one who can save this situation.
I no all the people, art keith, bob and sue crane etc.
I can solve this.
I just need the respect and admiration from my fellow bellgabbers and all will be well

Please please recognize how important i am to the future of Art Bell being in radio
I will give you a nother warning....if you don't give me support, consider my offer
of saving this unfortunate situation done...I will not be mocked by posters who have contributed
nothing to the sucess of Art.
I am the one who can solve all this stuff and finally get rid of heather and bring back
Art.
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

you have been warned for the last time.
lets make this happen
bobo

*yawn*

Auslandia

Bobo please do a masturbatory ritual with lots of onion dip to preserve the radio show.

PKaiser

Quote from: bobo17 on April 15, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Guys
you are ALL missing the point!
I am the only one who can save this situation.
I no all the people, art keith, bob and sue crane etc.
I can solve this.
I just need the respect and admiration from my fellow bellgabbers and all will be well

Please please recognize how important i am to the future of Art Bell being in radio
I will give you a nother warning....if you don't give me support, consider my offer
of saving this unfortunate situation done...I will not be mocked by posters who have contributed
nothing to the sucess of Art.
I am the one who can solve all this stuff and finally get rid of heather and bring back
Art.
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

you have been warned for the last time.
lets make this happen
bobo

Okay George, you don't need to break your arm patting yourself on the back. And your pleading for respect and, wait for it, admiration (?) is downright creepy and retarded. Now can you please go back to haunting C2C?


ge30542

Quote from: Roswells, Art on April 15, 2016, 01:12:51 PM
*yawn*
+1. This whole thing is now boring me. Art, redacted, MITD, 3 hours, 5 hours, meetings.

Auslandia

Quote from: ge30542 on April 15, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
+1. This whole thing is now boring me. Art, redacted, MITD, 3 hours, 5 hours, meetings.

Yet you're still posting.  Admit it.  You love it.

changes2012

Quote from: trostol on April 14, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
on top of that..seems he is now deleting peoples posts who do not agree lol and continues on the course of people just do not like a woman on the radio..heaven forbid its people just do not think she has no talent

Yup exactly -- I'm crushed -- but now my eyes are wide open...He deleted my comments and one other person's comments. AND unfriended me. Here's what he deleted:

Art -- you know I

LOOOOOOVE You -- please read some of the constructive criticism of HW's shows...it's not good -- yeah, there are a bunch of people who say they support her, etc, but there are a bunch of us who don't and it wouldn't hurt to review some of the criticism. I 'blindly' follow you, but not your pro·té·gé - she needs help. Thanks for listening!

Art Bell's reply
Everybody has critics, I had lots of them. I do not agree with her critics, I listen and love her style. There are some I guess who don't like a Woman on the radio or don't like her because she is not me. If you have not heard her in a while take a listen, I think she is doing a great job but as I said we all have critics.

Then someone else said: Always appreciate your opinion, Art Bell. Love a woman hosting a radio show. Wish the show great success, and respect Heather Wade, but simply could not stay subscribing or enjoy show as it is presently. If you were on 12x a month, I would resubscrbe. Whatever it is, life goes on. Wishing you all the best!

Then I said: Agreed she is doing something she's never done, nor been trained to do...that's why she shouldn't waste our time trying to do it. I have a very difficult time listening to her (as I do the other guy)...I'm frustrated by anyone who isn't connected to the guest AND talks about themselves rather than letting the guest speak. Engaged listening is a skill that I think GN & HW don't have. Giggling & feigning interest and curiosity is disingenuous. My time is valuable too. I would (and did) gladly sacrifice my sleep for engaging conversations.

Then he deleted my posts and unfriended me...Thank goodness for these BellGab posts -- at least I see I'm not alone in my observations.

changes2012

Quote from: Segundus on April 15, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
Sure.  What would provoke anyone to make such a decision?  Someone who obviously does not understand their audience.  Most people need a reason to stay up so late, something to keep them awake, good programming, an engaging host.  It's an imposition on people to expect them to stay up even later for a mediocre presentation. 



So many of you hold the same feelings that I do...is there a way to 'like' on here, rather than quote and post? Just wondering...I'm new!

changes2012

Quote from: ItsOver on April 14, 2016, 01:06:03 PM
But, sir, they have goat soap.



Even the freaking commercial is horrible -- ...on their farm... I kept thinking she would re-record it after she heard how terrible it is...oh well...downloading the old shows and then cancelling.

WildCard

Quote from: bobo17 on April 15, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

Can I get in on this? I'm sick of Jaz gettin all the credit blame.

trostol

Quote from: bobo17 on April 15, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Guys
you are ALL missing the point!
I am the only one who can save this situation.
I no all the people, art keith, bob and sue crane etc.
I can solve this.
I just need the respect and admiration from my fellow bellgabbers and all will be well

Please please recognize how important i am to the future of Art Bell being in radio
I will give you a nother warning....if you don't give me support, consider my offer
of saving this unfortunate situation done...I will not be mocked by posters who have contributed
nothing to the sucess of Art.
I am the one who can solve all this stuff and finally get rid of heather and bring back
Art.
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

you have been warned for the last time.
lets make this happen
bobo

then shit or get off the pot

Quote from: WildCard on April 15, 2016, 02:44:49 PM
Can I get in on this? I'm sick of Jaz gettin all the credit blame poon.

FIFY

Wonderlust

Quote from: changes2012 on April 15, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
Yup exactly -- I'm crushed -- but now my eyes are wide open...He deleted my comments and one other person's comments. AND unfriended me. Here's what he deleted:

Art -- you know I

LOOOOOOVE You -- please read some of the constructive criticism of HW's shows...it's not good -- yeah, there are a bunch of people who say they support her, etc, but there are a bunch of us who don't and it wouldn't hurt to review some of the criticism. I 'blindly' follow you, but not your pro·té·gé - she needs help. Thanks for listening!

Art Bell's reply
Everybody has critics, I had lots of them. I do not agree with her critics, I listen and love her style. There are some I guess who don't like a Woman on the radio or don't like her because she is not me. If you have not heard her in a while take a listen, I think she is doing a great job but as I said we all have critics.

Then someone else said: Always appreciate your opinion, Art Bell. Love a woman hosting a radio show. Wish the show great success, and respect Heather Wade, but simply could not stay subscribing or enjoy show as it is presently. If you were on 12x a month, I would resubscrbe. Whatever it is, life goes on. Wishing you all the best!

Then I said: Agreed she is doing something she's never done, nor been trained to do...that's why she shouldn't waste our time trying to do it. I have a very difficult time listening to her (as I do the other guy)...I'm frustrated by anyone who isn't connected to the guest AND talks about themselves rather than letting the guest speak. Engaged listening is a skill that I think GN & HW don't have. Giggling & feigning interest and curiosity is disingenuous. My time is valuable too. I would (and did) gladly sacrifice my sleep for engaging conversations.

Then he deleted my posts and unfriended me...Thank goodness for these BellGab posts -- at least I see I'm not alone in my observations.

Good post.

Imo.... I haven't read any HW criticism based on gender...
I thought I should be disappointed in how Art generalised and snubbed fans of MITD. But then realized that time has passed Art by. He has become an old man , out of touch .



Morgus

Quote from: cweb on April 15, 2016, 06:23:10 AM
I think that a lot of people have been doing the math and it doesn't add up.

Guest for five hours = drag out the conversation, could get boring
Guest, then open lines = lots of open lines all week (callers will repeat, get diluted because the show is shrinking)
Guest, then another guest =  more work for producer to book, run out of interesting guests sooner

It's a losing situation any way you slice it. And just how do you not wear out a host who you've asked to do almost double the work each night?

In the 1990s, when Art did five hour shows M-F, a lot were open lines or a guest for 2-4 hours and the last hour(s) open lines.
So I'd expect a similar pattern for the 5 hour MITD?


Quote from: Wonderlust on April 15, 2016, 02:51:37 PM
I thought I should be disappointed in how Art generalised and snubbed fans of MITD. But then realized that time has passed Art by. He has become an old man , out of touch .


Hautex

Quote from: bobo17 on April 15, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Guys
you are ALL missing the point!
I am the only one who can save this situation.
I no all the people, art keith, bob and sue crane etc.
I can solve this.
I just need the respect and admiration from my fellow bellgabbers and all will be well

Please please recognize how important i am to the future of Art Bell being in radio
I will give you a nother warning....if you don't give me support, consider my offer
of saving this unfortunate situation done...I will not be mocked by posters who have contributed
nothing to the sucess of Art.
I am the one who can solve all this stuff and finally get rid of heather and bring back
Art.
Support me and we will be fine, mock me and it will be all yours fault.
I will keep a score card and if the unthinkable happens, i will post all the names of those
who screwed it up.

you have been warned for the last time.
lets make this happen
bobo
Isn't character doing the right thing when nobody is watching? Or is that integrity? Either way, why do you need the world's love, admiration, and support to do what you feel is the right thing? Very simple question.

Gruntled

Last night I listened to the first show Art had after the test show.
The one with Graham Hancock.
   It started with Art talking to Crystal Gale about the song she wrote [Midnight in the Desert] for him, and how she came out to his house
and had lunch etc.
Art sounded so upbeat and happy. He mentioned BellGab affectionately more than once too. He gave this site credit for helping bring him back on the air.
It was like a different person than the man Art is now.

I was startled at the comparison from that Art and the more recent Art that's on Facebook and some of his postings here.
Miss the "on air" Art.

CornyCrow

Quote from: changes2012 on April 15, 2016, 02:36:56 PM
So many of you hold the same feelings that I do...is there a way to 'like' on here, rather than quote and post? Just wondering...I'm new!
I am mostly an observer here.  Folks are just so smart.  I learn things.  I don't think there's a way to 'like' a post. 

Welcome, and I hope you like it here. 

zeebo

Quote from: Gruntled on April 15, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Last night I listened to the first show Art had after the test show....

It started out great, and just got better.  It was on-track to be exactly what Art seemed to want, something fun and independent and successful.  I'll never really understand how it was all so casually dismissed. 

TigerLily

Quote from: trostol on April 14, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Art Bell
1 hr ·
I am told that Midnight in the Desert is going to extend the hours and soon will be a FIVE hour show  just like the old days! It airs at 9 PM Mon-Fri PT.
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One important element missing...Art   :(


Ediot: one step behind Roz again

ItsOver

Quote from: Morgus on April 15, 2016, 03:23:06 PM
In the 1990s, when Art did five hour shows M-F, a lot were open lines or a guest for 2-4 hours and the last hour(s) open lines.
So I'd expect a similar pattern for the 5 hour MITD?
Maybe a similar pattern, but one was a B-2 bomber on an approach pattern.  The current one?


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