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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

Quote from: albrecht on April 09, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
I didn't check the archive but will record regardless, sounds like classic Art. Though due to some hockey and baseball games I will listen tomorrow. Thanks for reminding me. In a way it is funny, like Coke back in the day quickly bringing back "Classic" Coke after the "New Coke" flop and then elimination, why iHate still puts out the good old Art stuff even though they are backing the new guy?

I wish they would just release it all. They probably play a little bit of it just so they have legal power over Art's old stuff if they need it.

Quote from: MR. Spock on April 09, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
Yes its his right to pick Heather but Heather still sucks. He could have done his homework on picking his replacement.

I'm done picking on Heather. She outlasted me and I'm waving the white flag. She will outlast you too. Don't be a skull on Heather's skull throne.


albrecht

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on April 09, 2016, 06:14:53 PM
I wish they would just release it all. They probably play a little bit of it just so they have legal power over Art's old stuff if they need it.
Yeah, I never understood how companies can exist with so much problems and debt but I guess cash-flow and people still willing to risk lending to them. The market is, I guess, small, but still if they released a "boxed-set" of all of the old Art stuff? But then they couldn't milk it.

ps: regarding Heather and MITD. Yeah, I agree. If you don't like, don't listen. Nothing is going to change until it fails or crawls on. I'll listen if good guest or for the board talk. But it is useless to just bitch about it. From the get-go it was an odd situation. Like no business model, organization, and so much mishandling of social-networks, technology, etc. It was weird.

Hollow Man

 
Quote from: MR. Spock on April 09, 2016, 02:31:42 PM
   Art, I have to question your judgment about the hosts that replace you. First George Noory became your replacement and he sucks. Now Heather Wade replaced you and she even worst then Mr Noory. Why cant you pick good people to replace you. You suck at picking your second string hosts.

Yeah, but none more worst than that Siegel guy. Now he really suck, ya know? Oops, time go. Gotta zug zug with your mom, bye!

scentless

Quote from: MR. Spock on April 09, 2016, 02:31:42 PM
   Art, I have to question your judgment about the hosts that replace you. First George Noory became your replacement and he sucks. Now Heather Wade replaced you and she even worst then Mr Noory. Why cant you pick good people to replace you. You suck at picking your second string hosts.

That seems a bit harsh.

Heather needs time to develop. Anyone in radio needs probably a good year to 18 months to develop and settle into who they will become. Give her that time out of simple respect plus the fact that all of us are on this forum because of Art. His endorsement means something, no matter how small you might regard it.

I don't care for Noory but he is a radio talent, if you want to go that far. Company man all the way and it will pay his bills and I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank. His right to work. The last time I had the unfortunate happenstance of using AM radio I heard him doing a show about nutrition. I flipped the car stereo switch to auxiliary input (old ipod full of podcasts i would rather listen to over and over as compared to Noory).

Coming from me, a person who would rather read RCH's obit might seem odd, but damn I still just like listening to how batshit insane he is. Art's done equally batshit shows in the past and has said it himself that 80% of his guest are full of shit and he knows it. He just mastered the craft of allowing them to drone on and make it interesting enough to listen to.


Hollow Man

Quote from: Segundus on April 09, 2016, 04:59:04 PM
Sorry to disagree, but there are genuine psychics.  James was probably one at one time.  Yeah, he is no more, which made him resort to parlor tricks and now he no longer reads. 

There is no reason for you to believe there are real psychics just because I say so, in fact, you are more honest for not believing.  People who believe with no proof are like many who follow religions just because others do. 

Yup - there's such a thing as magic, too.  And we survive the loss of our bodies.  At least I'm sure you'll experience one of these.

You have experience with these? Did you have an OBE, experience real magick, etc? I'd like to hear your stories if you have any. I'm sure alot of us would.

Hollow Man

I see you've just arrived. Welcome, scentless, glad you're here.

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 06:55:18 PM
That seems a bit harsh.

Heather needs time to develop. Anyone in radio needs probably a good year to 18 months to develop and settle into who they will become. Give her that time out of simple respect plus the fact that all of us are on this forum because of Art. His endorsement means something, no matter how small you might regard it.

Don't waste your time, man. The person you're addressing is a complete, unmitigated retard. The fact that he thinks Jorch is better than Heather is evidence enough. Plus he's illiterate, so that doesn't help either. Anything you say will be lost on him and his friends. I'm gonna guess you haven't been reading this board long, LOL.  ;)

QuoteI don't care for Noory but he is a radio talent, if you want to go that far. Company man all the way and it will pay his bills and I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank. His right to work. The last time I had the unfortunate happenstance of using AM radio I heard him doing a show about nutrition. I flipped the car stereo switch to auxiliary input (old ipod full of podcasts i would rather listen to over and over as compared to Noory).

LOL. You're damned right about that, he IS a company man, and one of the worst sort. That's one of the reasons he's so fucking terrible. He's completely empty and does everythinig by the book. Try and remember the last time he was so engrossed with something that he forgot to do a commercial when he was supposed to, then suddenly remembered and jolted to do it real quick so he could get back to the show. Try it, you won't be able to. That's because he never has, ever. And he never will. He's a vacant, passionless putz who's not even worthy of licking Art's boots. Art was way too kind to the guy. He played too much the gentleman, trying to help him out. I'm sure he regrets that now, LOL.

QuoteComing from me, a person who would rather read RCH's obit might seem odd, but damn I still just like listening to how batshit insane he is. Art's done equally batshit shows in the past and has said it himself that 80% of his guest are full of shit and he knows it. He just mastered the craft of allowing them to drone on and make it interesting enough to listen to.

Hahaha. You're not the only one. RCH can be very entertaining, even if he is full of shit. I think Art had a soft spot for the guy. Look how grateful Hoagie was for that, LOL.

You're right. Art was a master at his craft. Batshit or not, he could still make it entertaining, and that was the whole point of it. Whether it was real or not, he made it entertaining. That;s why even alot of non-believers loved the guy, because he was a showman. Simple as that. None like him...

scentless

Quote from: Hollow Man on April 09, 2016, 07:27:10 PM
I see you've just arrived. Welcome, scentless, glad you're here.

Don't waste your time, man. The person you're addressing is a complete, unmitigated retard. The fact that he thinks Jorch is better than Heather is evidence enough. Plus he's illiterate, so that doesn't help either. Anything you say will be lost on him and his friends. I'm gonna guess you haven't been reading this board long, LOL.  ;)

LOL. You're damned right about that, he IS a company man, and one of the worst sort. That's one of the reasons he's so fucking terrible. He's completely empty and does everythinig by the book. Try and remember the last time he was so engrossed with something that he forgot to do a commercial when he was supposed to, then suddenly remembered and jolted to do it real quick so he could get back to the show. Try it, you won't be able to. That's because he never has, ever. And he never will. He's a vacant, passionless putz who's not even worthy of licking Art's boots. Art was way too kind to the guy. He played too much the gentleman, trying to help him out. I'm sure he regrets that now, LOL.

Hahaha. You're not the only one. RCH can be very entertaining, even if he is full of shit. I think Art had a soft spot for the guy. Look how grateful Hoagie was for that, LOL.

You're right. Art was a master at his craft. Batshit or not, he could still make it entertaining, and that was the whole point of it. Whether it was real or not, he made it entertaining. That;s why even alot of non-believers loved the guy, because he was a showman. Simple as that. None like him...

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I agree with everything you just wrote.

The Art Bell show is over. It's the Heather show now and we're all bummed. I just said give her time. I probably won't as I simply don't have the time to wait to see how good it may get. Art's gone, and here we are.

Quote from: albrecht on April 09, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
Yeah, I never understood how companies can exist with so much problems and debt but I guess cash-flow and people still willing to risk lending to them. The market is, I guess, small, but still if they released a "boxed-set" of all of the old Art stuff? But then they couldn't milk it...

Banks generally only lend businesses money if they get collateral, or at least a claim on fairly proven future cash flows.  They put a lot of time into considering the credit worthiness of the borrower companies before making the loans.  Sometimes the collateral is stock in the company, whether it's pubic or private.  The percentage of money loaned to businesses that is not eventually recovered is minuscule compared to overall loan amounts that are repaid. 


I seriously doubt there is much of a market for the old Art Bell recordings.  They would have to record what they have on CDs, package it, market it, pay someone to do all that, someone else to manage it, supplies, office space, production space, storage space, shipping - after all that they'd end up losing money.  If they did make money, it would be so little as to not be worth bothering with.  The guy had 3 million people per night (3m x 5 weeknights = the 15 million figure we routinely hear) listening to the show at his peak.

His peak was over 15 years ago, and during a time the genre was interesting.  A listener would be anyone tuning in anywhere from just a few minutes, to a segment or two, to having it on as background material while at work, to actively listening to the whole show.  How many of those people listened to most of the show, how many are still alive, still interested, and would now buy $500 boxed sets of the old shows?  Not very many.

They ought to load them onto YouTube and get some ad revenue

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 06:55:18 PM
That seems a bit harsh.

Heather needs time to develop. Anyone in radio needs probably a good year to 18 months to develop and settle into who they will become. Give her that time out of simple respect plus the fact that all of us are on this forum because of Art. His endorsement means something, no matter how small you might regard it...

A person either has talent to be developed, or they don't.  She doesn't, sorry.  It's not a knock, the rest of us don't either.

As far as Art's endorsement meaning something - no it doesn't.  Just because he's a great broadcaster himself, knows the equipment and how to operate it, has been in the industry for decades, and built his program into a popular syndicated show, doesn't mean he is an expert in talent evaluation.  Why would that even be an expectation?  Clearly, he isn't.

Quote from: Hollow Man on April 09, 2016, 07:27:10 PM
I see you've just arrived. Welcome, scentless, glad you're here.

Don't waste your time, man. The person you're addressing is a complete, unmitigated retard. The fact that he thinks Jorch is better than Heather is evidence enough. Plus he's illiterate, so that doesn't help either. Anything you say will be lost on him and his friends. I'm gonna guess you haven't been reading this board long, LOL...

Noory is terrible.  Unlistenable.  From what little I've heard, Heather is significantly worse.

At least Noory's awfulness is fun to laugh at.

scentless

Quote from: Paper*Boy on April 09, 2016, 07:48:16 PM
A person either has talent to be developed, or they don't.  She doesn't, sorry.  It's not a knock, the rest of us don't either.

As far as Art's endorsement meaning something, no it doesn't.  Just because he's a great broadcaster himself, knows the equipment and how to operate it, has been in the industry for decades, and built his program into a popular syndicated show, doesn't mean he is an expert in talent evaluation.  Why would that even be an expectation?  Clearly, he isn't.

in that case i guess you just don't listen. no argument here. like i said i don't have the time nor am i willing to subscribe to find out. we're all in the same boat.

scentless

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 07:50:54 PM
in that case i guess you just don't listen. no argument here. like i said i don't have the time nor am i willing to subscribe to find out. we're all in the same boat.

and to further commit cardinal sin, i will quote myself. i think he'll be back in some incarnation. he's like a 14 year old girl that quits facebook every other week because of peer pressure. but can't stay away and wants to take it.

scentless

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 07:52:50 PM
and to further commit cardinal sin, i will quote myself. i think he'll be back in some incarnation. he's like a 14 year old girl that quits facebook every other week because of peer pressure. but can't stay away and wants to take it.

and to quote myself again, sorry for the spam...

i think the story of why he quit is a lie. i don't buy a single piece of it. the moment he alluded to someone not wanting him to broadcast i thought of the night he proposed that someone took out a satellite to stop the show. oh the drama!

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: VoteQuimby on April 07, 2016, 06:52:30 PM
Wow, someone asked me in PM to send them to the board that cannot be named. I linked him to what I thought was last night's thread but theONE already has tonight's thread up hours early. Dude is committed, I'll give him that.

He's something of a Johnny One Note. Rather dull, if you ask me.

scentless

oh crap, just saw a new gabcast is on. Senda. Someone please tell me how to get email alerts to find out when these are on. This is great.

ItsOver

Quote from: Paper*Boy on April 09, 2016, 07:50:16 PM

...At least Noory's awfulness is fun to laugh at.
"That's true."


scentless

"This picture is copyrighted and is on loan by Rocket Video, licensed by Sean David Morton, not to be reproduced, downloaded, or re-distributed without the express permission of Rocket Video."

That's Art to laugh at.

Man, I'm gonna miss late nights.


Roswells, Art

Quote from: Paper*Boy on April 08, 2016, 08:11:14 AM
It's even more embarrassing to be IN the audience.  At least it should be.

If you notice, everything he (or any of these so-called 'psychics') tries to guess about each person has a fairly high probability of being at least vaguely accurate for the demographic the person he is talking to is in.  Emphasis on 'vaguely'.  He just happened to hit on an audience full of people where those probabilities weren't panning out.

That's all it is, defining things vaguely enough to fit most of the people in a specific identifiable demographic.  The more narrowly defined the demographic, and the more accurate the assessment of the specific individual, and the more vague the guesses about them and their situation, the more 'accurate' the guesses will be. 

And most people mostly only remember the accurate guesses.  When all that fails, notice he starts talking about 'loving oneself more', and that sort of dreck.  To distract the audience from his shitty guesses. 

There is no such thing as a 'psychic'.  However there are people who understand human nature, there are people who are pretty good at looking at a person and guessing what sorts of situations they may be in based on their demographic - which is tentatively based on their appearance (age, health, class (upper, lower, et), the clothes they are wearing, how they speak, and so on).  There are those who, based on the above, have a pretty good idea how certain situations for certain people tend to play out.  People may even have convinced themselves they are 'psychic', in reality they actually just have a better understanding of certain things (above) than others do. 

And people want to believe.

If I learned anything at all listening to Art Bell's shows, it's that it's mostly all bullshit.

I think there is something to ESP. It's just charlatans that give it a bad name. I used to be anti-woo but I experienced things that made me think otherwise.  And no, it's not my synapses misfiring! I didn't want "to believe" as you say. You do have to face facts sometimes though even though they can't be tested.

I agree though, listening to Art Bell and that type of show really does make you realize most of it is bullshit.

Quote from: MV on April 09, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
He's something of a Johnny One Note. Rather dull, if you ask me. err

Roast me, MV!

scentless

sorry is this thread about psychics? allow me to introduce myself. psychics, or those who claim to be are in need of a sharp spear to the face or at least public shaming. if anyone reading this thinks they are psychic, please message me your locale. i would be more than happy to put an end to your stupid self serving and whiney attempt for attention by slapping you like the little bitch you are (male of female, or Kardashian). stfu and keep eating roots and praying to water. if you don't see me coming your "gift" isn't working. i do not hate witches and wiccans and psychics. wanna know why? they don't exist.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 11:44:10 PM
sorry is this thread about psychics? allow me to introduce myself. psychics, or those who claim to be are in need of a sharp spear to the face or at least public shaming. if anyone reading this thinks they are psychic, please message me your locale. i would be more than happy to put an end to your stupid self serving and whiney attempt for attention by slapping you like the little bitch you are (male of female, or Kardashian). stfu and keep eating roots and praying to water. if you don't see me coming your "gift" isn't working. i do not hate witches and wiccans and psychics. wanna know why? they don't exist.

I knew you were going to say that.  ::)

Roswells, Art

Quote from: scentless on April 09, 2016, 11:44:10 PM
sorry is this thread about psychics? allow me to introduce myself. psychics, or those who claim to be are in need of a sharp spear to the face or at least public shaming. if anyone reading this thinks they are psychic, please message me your locale. i would be more than happy to put an end to your stupid self serving and whiney attempt for attention by slapping you like the little bitch you are (male of female, or Kardashian). stfu and keep eating roots and praying to water. if you don't see me coming your "gift" isn't working. i do not hate witches and wiccans and psychics. wanna know why? they don't exist.

This thread is about anything you want it to be. It's the magic of ART BELL!  *rainbow*

P.S. I'm guessing you would be the one stabbed first.

Also, you went pretty quickly from "Hi, I'm new here" to homicidal maniac. I'm impressed! It took me almost two years.

norland2424

Quote from: Roswells, Art on April 10, 2016, 12:12:47 AM
This thread is about anything you want it to be. It's the magic of ART BELL!  *rainbow*

P.S. I'm guessing you would be the one stabbed first.

Also, you went pretty quickly from "Hi, I'm new here" to homicidal maniac. I'm impressed! It took me almost two years.

He was forged in the hoagie thread, it tends to cause homicidal thoughts.

Roswells, Art

Quote from: norland2424 on April 10, 2016, 12:44:57 AM
He was forged in the hoagie thread, it tends to cause homicidal thoughts.

Yeah, the Hoagie thread really isn't for beginners.

Hollow Man

Quote from: Roswells, Art on April 10, 2016, 12:12:47 AM
This thread is about anything you want it to be. It's the magic of ART BELL!  *rainbow*

P.S. I'm guessing you would be the one stabbed first.

Also, you went pretty quickly from "Hi, I'm new here" to homicidal maniac. I'm impressed! It took me almost two years.

Shit, I was one long before I got here. You fuckers ain't got nothing on me. ;)

BTW, I like your constant theme of avatars. Pretty girl. Is that Anna Faris or am I completely off?

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Hollow Man on April 10, 2016, 12:57:22 AM
Shit, I was one long before I got here. You fuckers ain't got nothing on me. ;)

BTW, I like your constant theme of avatars. Pretty girl. Is that Anna Faris or am I completely off?

Nope, you're right. It's Anna Faris. I don't look anything like her.

Also, thank you.

Auslandia

Quote from: Roswells, Art on April 10, 2016, 12:58:36 AM
Nope, you're right. It's Anna Faris. I don't look anything like her.

Also, thank you.

Probably look more like my avatar huh?

Hollow Man

Quote from: Roswells, Art on April 10, 2016, 12:58:36 AM
Nope, you're right. It's Anna Faris. I don't look anything like her.

Also, thank you.

That's alright. You're probably prettier, anyway.

Where are those from, exactly? I can't quite place them.

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Hollow Man on April 10, 2016, 01:07:06 AM
That's alright. You're probably prettier, anyway.

Where are those from, exactly? I can't quite place them.

Smiley Face. It's pretty much a stoner movie. Either you will love it or think it is really fucking stupid. She is funny in it. Ok I'll say the story. I had just watched the movie when I joined this site and I really liked her in it so I decided to make her my avatar. I didn't even know her name until someone here asked and someone else answered.

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