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chefist

Clearly these are topics many want to listen to! I hope Username can get a series of shows about this soon! My ears will be glued!

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
I like Cooper, he's a crazy psychological wasteland but he rode that line between genius and insane about as well as anyone I've ever seen.

Tons of YouTubes I've heard...many a night falling asleep listening to that stuff! Fun and interesting! Be it fiction or insane rambling! Love it!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
I like Cooper, he's a crazy psychological wasteland but he rode that line between genius and insane about as well as anyone I've ever seen.

Agree. He was good! Not sure everything he had to say was true or accurate but he sure made you think and reconsider your assumptions.  ;)

DanTSX

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
I like Cooper, he's a crazy psychological wasteland but he rode that line between genius and insane about as well as anyone I've ever seen.
Exactly. 8)

The insane ones that believe their bullshit are great.  The others......well, it shows when they are trying too hard....

Value Of Pi

Quote from: PKaiser on March 29, 2016, 02:17:07 PM
Hey bobes, I have a pretty large vocabulary and I have never seen this word in my 53 years, want to tell me what it means?

Act appropriately? Last warning? Are you my freaking MOM? Who the fuck do you think you are? This is my last warning: piss off and shut the fuck up you Bigfoot screeching tard!

Isn't Moneymaker calling you about now? And damn, fix that missing tooth, would you?

Serenity now, serenity now. Remember you're in recovery. (I guess it's serenity yesterday at this point.) See, isn't what your Mom would actually say?

albrecht

Quote from: DanTSX on March 30, 2016, 09:11:26 PM
Exactly. 8)

The insane ones that believe their bullshit are great.  The others......well, it shows when they are trying too hard....
Yeah. Mae Brussell was one of the best. Man, she could "connect dots" and did research. And was more on a RCH political bent, unlike most of the others who are more of a right-wing bent. If the internet was around back then? I also recall some guy from Rhodesia (he was more about gold etc) that was around on radio in the 90s and maybe early 2000's but left (I think moved back to Africa, which is somewhat crazy.) No feuds but interesting accent and theories.

Quote from: chefist on March 30, 2016, 09:11:12 PM
Tons of YouTubes I've heard...many a night falling asleep listening to that stuff! Fun and interesting! Be it fiction or insane rambling! Love it!

Ha, same here. The scary thing about him and he's like David Koresh. When he's talking about history, socialism or black & white governmental policy, there's arguably none better. But then when he goes off to woo woo land, it's a scary trip. His progression from being UFO whistleblower to rabid anti-Government militia member is intensely interesting.

His two videos where he records UFOs during the heyday of Area 51 (Project Greenlight?) are two of my favorite paranormal documentaries ever.

He would be an incredible subject of a film although I have no idea what the moral would be.

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
Ha, same here. The scary thing about him and he's like David Koresh. When he's talking about history, socialism or black & white governmental policy, there's arguably none better. But then when he goes off to woo woo land, it's a scary trip. His progression from being UFO whistleblower to rabid anti-Government militia member is intensely interesting.

His two videos where he records UFOs during the heyday of Area 51 (Project Greenlight?) are two of my favorite paranormal documentaries ever.

He would be an incredible subject of a film although I have no idea what the moral would be.

I think this is exactly what Username should include in his show! That would be a fun ride down memory lane AND discuss what the hell the guy actually did!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
Yeah. Mae Brussell was one of the best. Man, she could "connect dots" and did research. And was more on a RCH political bent, unlike most of the others who are more of a right-wing bent. If the internet was around back then? I also recall some guy from Rhodesia (he was more about gold etc) that was around on radio in the 90s and maybe early 2000's but left (I think moved back to Africa, which is somewhat crazy.) No feuds but interesting accent and theories.

Mae was great! Really, one of the original founders of this genre, I'd say

http://suspiciousdeaths.blogspot.ca/2010/11/mae-brussell.html


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA3AE1666479EF849

albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
Ha, same here. The scary thing about him and he's like David Koresh. When he's talking about history, socialism or black & white governmental policy, there's arguably none better. But then when he goes off to woo woo land, it's a scary trip. His progression from being UFO whistleblower to rabid anti-Government militia member is intensely interesting.

His two videos where he records UFOs during the heyday of Area 51 (Project Greenlight?) are two of my favorite paranormal documentaries ever.

He would be an incredible subject of a film although I have no idea what the moral would be.
I have a card from Koresh's rock band from back in the day. A few days after the conflagration I was with some friends driving back from a bar and taking a short-cut through an alley in Austin, nearby where some homeless folks had set up a make-shift campsite, and a guy ran across the alley and froze and was caught in our headlights: both me and my buddy, who was driving, looked at each other and said "Koresh"- dude looked exactly like him. He ran off. I'm sure it really wasn't him and we were drunk etc but his image was on tv 24/7 and it was a spotting image. So....?

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
I have a card from Koresh's rock band from back in the day. A few days after the conflagration I was with some friends driving back from a bar and taking a short-cut through an alley in Austin, nearby where some homeless folks had set up a make-shift campsite, and a guy ran across the alley and froze and was caught in our headlights: both me and my buddy, who was driving, looked at each other and said "Koresh"- dude looked exactly like him. He ran off. I'm sure it really wasn't him and we were drunk etc but his image was on tv 24/7 and it was a spotting image. So....?

That's awesome. You never know man. It's like all the stories about Timothy McVeigh floating around out there.


chefist

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
I have a card from Koresh's rock band from back in the day. A few days after the conflagration I was with some friends driving back from a bar and taking a short-cut through an alley in Austin, nearby where some homeless folks had set up a make-shift campsite, and a guy ran across the alley and froze and was caught in our headlights: both me and my buddy, who was driving, looked at each other and said "Koresh"- dude looked exactly like him. He ran off. I'm sure it really wasn't him and we were drunk etc but his image was on tv 24/7 and it was a spotting image. So....?

That's what I love about BellGab...stories like this! Awesome! One day I'll tell the story about meeting Jim Morrison's parents...

ItsOver

Quote from: Value Of Pi on March 30, 2016, 09:15:02 PM
Serenity now, serenity now. Remember you're in recovery. (I guess it's serenity yesterday at this point.) See, isn't what your Mom would actually say?
Ha!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
That's awesome. You never know man. It's like all the stories about Timothy McVeigh floating around out there.

Have you ever seen the video of him inside a tank wearing army clothes and tags just a month or so before the incident? This would suggest that he was still in active service, unlike the official story.

nbirnes

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2016, 09:08:34 PM
Do you have any inside poop on Cooper? He was a fascinating guy. A little scary sometimes (obviously the government thought so too  ;)) but interesting. Do you think he was just a loon?  ???

An area I would explore is what happened at the famous convention when Bill Moore told everyone he was compromised or whatever exactly he said. Way before my time, but the story is that Ecker, Cooper, and Col. John Alexander were buds, sharing drinks, talking. Some of the stories might have come from these good-time talks. Both Don and John have wives named Vicki, for what it's worth.

That's not very inside, but it might show where the grains of truth began, before they got all shredded.

DanTSX

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
Yeah. Mae Brussell was one of the best. Man, she could "connect dots" and did research. And was more on a RCH political bent, unlike most of the others who are more of a right-wing bent. If the internet was around back then? I also recall some guy from Rhodesia (he was more about gold etc) that was around on radio in the 90s and maybe early 2000's but left (I think moved back to Africa, which is somewhat crazy.) No feuds but interesting accent and theories.

Jan Lamprecht!?The hollow earth guy who also was silenced by the ANC government for writing a blog about white people getting chopped up constantly in Gauteng?   He was on some goofy shortwave show out of Staten Island or something in like 2007ish, then gone.  The ANC in practice operates the government just like the Nats did during the good ol' bad days of apartheid, Just less competently.  So he probably took a free "helicopter ride" or something.   Just like the Nats did with Biko and a hundred other commies that challenged their oppressive regime.

When Jeff Rense fell asleep at the wheel of his Land Cruiser last spring and drove off a cliff (or the govt "sleep Ray" hit him as he insists) he played an old show from the 90's with Lamprecht abput hollow earth.  This was before the wheels really started to come off the wagon in ZA and he started speaking out.  It was a wonderful show.  Even though the topic was preposterous.  He was much better as an investigative reporter on the topic of Kill Whitey.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2016, 09:28:29 PM
Have you ever seen the video of him inside a tank wearing army clothes and tags just a month or so before the incident? This would suggest that he was still in active service, unlike the official story.

Yeah! The alternative stuff on him is intensely interesting. I got really into the story awhile ago and read everything I could find. The rabbit hole for the OKC bombing is nuts.

albrecht

Quote from: chefist on March 30, 2016, 09:27:10 PM
That's what I love about BellGab...stories like this! Awesome! One day I'll tell the story about meeting Jim Morrison's parents...
I will look forward to it! There is something about rock bands, and worse, failed musicians like Manson and Koresh. Maybe Mae was right in some of her "connected dots."

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
Yeah! The alternative stuff on him is intensely interesting. I got really into the story awhile ago and read everything I could find. The rabbit hole for the OKC bombing is nuts.

I've never seen that stuff...where do I start?

GravitySucks

Quote from: chefist on March 30, 2016, 09:32:56 PM
I've never seen that stuff...where do I start?

Here is one branch of the tree

http://www.jaynadavis.com

DanTSX

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
I have a card from Koresh's rock band from back in the day. A few days after the conflagration I was with some friends driving back from a bar and taking a short-cut through an alley in Austin, nearby where some homeless folks had set up a make-shift campsite, and a guy ran across the alley and froze and was caught in our headlights: both me and my buddy, who was driving, looked at each other and said "Koresh"- dude looked exactly like him. He ran off. I'm sure it really wasn't him and we were drunk etc but his image was on tv 24/7 and it was a spotting image. So....?

So is Alex Jones really Bill hicks?

nbirnes

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2016, 09:21:27 PM
Mae was great! Really, one of the original founders of this genre, I'd say

http://suspiciousdeaths.blogspot.ca/2010/11/mae-brussell.html


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA3AE1666479EF849

Don't forget to add Dave Emory to the mix. He used to broadcast on a Pacifica station, but he's the main guy who watches the Germans and the Fourth, Fifth, and Forever Reich. He always reads his material in a sing-song voice, slowly so you can write down the references. He's probably online now.


albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
Yeah! The alternative stuff on him is intensely interesting. I got really into the story awhile ago and read everything I could find. The rabbit hole for the OKC bombing is nuts.
OKC bombing is crazy. And, I think, only because the internet was in its infancy, and larger events have happened now, that people don't look back at it. At the time so many changing "narratives," suspects, suspicious deaths, conflicting reports, potential cover-ups, warnings to some people, etc. The government, and even NGO anti-hate groups, had embedded snitches in Elohim City not to mention some of the other suspicious things. The warren goes deep when you start looking into it.

DanTSX

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:36:17 PM
OKC bombing is crazy. And, I think, only because the internet was in its infancy, and larger events have happened now, that people don't look back at it. At the time so many changing "narratives," suspects, suspicious deaths, conflicting reports, potential cover-ups, warnings to some people, etc. The government, and even NGO anti-hate groups, had embedded snitches in Elohim City not to mention some of the other suspicious things. The warren goes deep when you start looking into it.

People call Teump, Hitler.  But forget all about Janet Reno.......


If there was ever a modern war criminal.....

Quote from: DanTSX on March 30, 2016, 09:35:39 PM
So is Alex Jones really Bill hicks?

;D  ;D  ;D This is my favorite theory right now.

GravitySucks

Quote from: chefist on March 30, 2016, 09:32:56 PM
I've never seen that stuff...where do I start?

Here is another branch. (Btw Rappaport is RCHs guest tonight)

http://www.amazon.com/Oklahoma-City-Bombing-Suppressed-Truth/dp/1885395221

chefist

Quote from: albrecht on March 30, 2016, 09:36:17 PM
OKC bombing is crazy. And, I think, only because the internet was in its infancy, and larger events have happened now, that people don't look back at it. At the time so many changing "narratives," suspects, suspicious deaths, conflicting reports, potential cover-ups, warnings to some people, etc. The government, and even NGO anti-hate groups, had embedded snitches in Elohim City not to mention some of the other suspicious things. The warren goes deep when you start looking into it.

I'm looking forward to catching up! Once again, another interesting topic that shows can cover but don't...but thanks to BellGab I learned about!

chefist

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 30, 2016, 09:38:53 PM
Here is another branch. (Btw Rappaport is RCHs guest tonight)

http://www.amazon.com/Oklahoma-City-Bombing-Suppressed-Truth/dp/1885395221

was this theory before or after the X-Files movie?

albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 30, 2016, 09:38:37 PM
;D  ;D  ;D This is my favorite theory right now.
I've mentioned this around BG and some Bill Hicks fans got REALLY pissed. But if you look at the ranting style, their face, both from Texas, their cynicism of the government control matrix, etc?  ;) It would be an epic move. Almost as good as was Andy Kaufman becoming a wrestler: was it real or not? (and faking his death later.)  ;)

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