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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

DarKPenguiN

Quote from: Uncle Duke on February 14, 2016, 09:47:56 AM
Another stellar suggestion, assuming we could find him.
I think we would have to wait till 2038 or something. hes probably a little kid now. We could have Ed Dames track down titor and we could steal his candy this coming Halloween though- Would be fun.

Quote from: onan on February 14, 2016, 07:37:26 AM
There is no good reason to dredge up long ago events for the satisfaction for a few members of the forum. It is rather macabre that anyone would want to do that.

The (Philadelphia Weekly) article sets a president for having a follow up interview. I don't personally think the past should be "dredged up" this way. However, that's just how you and I feel. Our feelings are irrelevant. Art's (potentially) hurt feelings are irrelevant, just like the "satisfaction" other member would recieve. If any of his children have a grievance or whatever, and would like to post it here; why not?

I think it's a bit rich that some are worried about Art's, "past emotional wounds". Poor Art! He left his first wife and kids. But, but.. he's the victim! He seems to end up being the victim a lot. I'm certain that's why he is taking so much heat. That's just a personal observation.

You da man, Art! Heather is better than Rush. bateman couldn't take the pressure. And he is just okay. White Crow told me so. He only speaks "truth to power" nowadays. Dat pesky credibility, tho...



DarKPenguiN

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
The (Philadelphia Weekly) article sets a president for having a follow up interview. I don't personally think the past should be "dredged up" this way. However, that's just how you and I feel. Our feelings are irrelevant. Art's (potentially) hurt feelings are irrelevant, just like the "satisfaction" other member would recieve. If any of his children have a grievance or whatever, and would like to post it here; why not?

I think it's a bit rich that some are worried about Art's, "past emotional wounds". Poor Art! He left his first wife and kids. But, but.. he's the victim! He seems to end up being the victim a lot. I'm certain that's why he is taking so much heat. That's just a personal observation.

You da man, Art! Heather is better than Rush. bateman couldn't take the pressure. And he is just okay. White Crow told me so. He only speaks "truth to power" nowadays. Dat pesky credibility, tho...
Nailed it

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on February 14, 2016, 10:05:51 AM
Nailed it

The 'Victim Narrative' is a strong, yet undeniable part of Art's (radio HOF) career. Especially, at the end. Unfortunately for him, it will be a stain on his legacy. Forever.

DarKPenguiN

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 10:26:43 AM
The 'Victim Narrative' is a strong, yet undeniable part of Art's (radio HOF) career. Especially, at the end. Unfortunately for him, it will be a stain on his legacy. Forever.
Thats  what I find really interesting about those who get pissed off that the stalker story isnt believed.

Arts had 'story's' and 'drama' (never...ever his fault) for years now and this is merely the cherry on top.

Had this happened in a bubble it would probably be belived without question even in lieu of Arts strange actions after 'fearing for his life"

-IF this is true- its akin to 'the boy who cried wolf'. too many past incidents where Art is always the victim and a total lack of accepting responsibility for anything begins to add up.

Its part of a pattern that many can see clearly.

onan

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
The (Philadelphia Weekly) article sets a president for having a follow up interview. I don't personally think the past should be "dredged up" this way. However, that's just how you and I feel. Our feelings are irrelevant. Art's (potentially) hurt feelings are irrelevant, just like the "satisfaction" other member would recieve. If any of his children have a grievance or whatever, and would like to post it here; why not?

I think it's a bit rich that some are worried about Art's, "past emotional wounds". Poor Art! He left his first wife and kids. But, but.. he's the victim! He seems to end up being the victim a lot. I'm certain that's why he is taking so much heat. That's just a personal observation.

You da man, Art! Heather is better than Rush. bateman couldn't take the pressure. And he is just okay. White Crow told me so. He only speaks "truth to power" nowadays. Dat pesky credibility, tho...

If I remember, Art's biological son made a statement several years ago that he wasn't interested in discussing any feelings or history regarding Art.

Quote from: onan on February 14, 2016, 11:03:29 AM
If I remember, Art's biological son made a statement several years ago that he wasn't interested in discussing any feelings or history regarding Art.

And I don't blame him. Plus, it's probably hard to discuss someone whom was never in your life. I believe that Lisa is still waiting for an email reply, too...

BellBoy

Quote from: rekcuf on February 11, 2016, 08:48:07 PM
We're always 24-48 hours away from an Art Bell drama.

No shit, dat! And he need not even be present for the drama to beak out (all over again)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_e-RQZVwxg

WhiteCrow

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
The (Philadelphia Weekly) article sets a president for having a follow up interview. I don't personally think the past should be "dredged up" this way. However, that's just how you and I feel. Our feelings are irrelevant. Art's (potentially) hurt feelings are irrelevant, just like the "satisfaction" other member would recieve. If any of his children have a grievance or whatever, and would like to post it here; why not?

I think it's a bit rich that some are worried about Art's, "past emotional wounds". Poor Art! He left his first wife and kids. But, but.. he's the victim! He seems to end up being the victim a lot. I'm certain that's why he is taking so much heat. That's just a personal observation.

You da man, Art! Heather is better than Rush. bateman couldn't take the pressure. And he is just okay. White Crow told me so. He only speaks "truth to power" nowadays. Dat pesky credibility, tho...

The TRUTH... IS.. only Art knows the TRUTH!

"YOU WERE!"

I believe Art.

Quote from: BellBoy on February 14, 2016, 01:09:58 PM
No shit, dat! And he need not even be present for the drama to beak out (all over again)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_e-RQZVwxg

...

Present? Ha! I think there are a couple of kids (now adults) who know the sting of Art going M.I.A. aka quitting...


Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 01:45:31 PM
The TRUTH... IS.. only Art knows the TRUTH!

"YOU WERE!"

I believe Art.

I'm trying to change your opinion, sir.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: SredniVashtar on February 14, 2016, 09:18:49 AM
If we went on about all of the things MV 'forgot to mention' we'd be here all day. I think Art probably realised that the 'you were' bit was too much and decided to drop it. It raises too many questions, when all he wants is something vague and open-ended he can use to stay off the air. I can't think of a more important part of the story - that there was someone firing at him, backed up by a threat - and it's not something you just forget. I'm sure you have an equivalent over there to what we'd call 'wasting police time', and my guess is that he withdrew that bit because it would threaten to get more serious if he developed the story too much.

Art said he heard two words, neither of which were very revealing. I think you're overanalyzing by expecting text book answers out of a verbal interview. My guess is that in the flow of the interview he simply didn't mention it and MV didn't think of it. That's the simple answer anyway. I know that doesn't satisfy the Spanish Inquisition and their conspiracy theories, but the simplest answer is usually the correct one.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
I'm trying to change your opinion, sir.

TRUTH ..IS.. my opinion, doesn't matter.

Art is gone.

I love Art.. And want Art back!

That's my TRUTH

Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
TRUTH ..IS.. my opinion, doesn't matter.

Art is gone.

I love Art.. And want Art back!

That's my TRUTH

:)

WhiteCrow

 :-[
Quote from: Segundus on February 14, 2016, 06:06:23 AM
I'm not sure that the reaction is only because he quit, but because the show and the stalker seem to exist merely to promote Heather.  People feel duped in supporting the show in the first place.  Taking your fans as fools is not a nice thing.

Please forgive me Segundus,  I don't read this thread much anymore. I'm sure someone has made the same point in the past.

It makes no sense, to make-up such a convoluted "stalker" story. When a simple lie 'would have' achived the same results.

If really, wanted to turn the show over to Heather. A simple lie..Art sez "have some private family issues, Heather will fill in, until things are worked out"

Heather, update listeners about Art and when he is expected to return.

Art returns, and sez "he'll be back every once in awhile, until things stabilize with private family issues"

Heather continues to fill in. Listeners get use to Heather.

Again it make no sense at all, to come up with a "stalker" story and risk involving the police, with unknown consequences of any investigation.

If it is assumed that Art is  smart and devious enough, to invent the stalker story. Then wouldn't it be logical that he would be smart enough, to understand its many risks. And come up with a simple lie, that accomplishes the same  objectives with no risk to his character and provides a way for it to become Heather's show.. Plus it would of protected the subscription income.

I believe Art.

He reacted, in panic, without thinking, wanted to protect his family first and foremost.

Heather is to be admired, she is trying to hold it together, until the day, when Art and his family feel safe again.

I believe and adore Heather.

TRUTH IS ..it's all a very sad for Art's fan.
No matter the TRUTH of what really happened.



It's not so much the content of the article than why(after being there for nearly a decade) it has suddenly disappeared. It could be an error with their website or a purge of old articles. Or maybe lawyers were involved.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 14, 2016, 02:12:09 PM
Art said he heard two words, neither of which were very revealing. I think you're overanalyzing by expecting text book answers out of a verbal interview. My guess is that in the flow of the interview he simply didn't mention it and MV didn't think of it. That's the simple answer anyway. I know that doesn't satisfy the Spanish Inquisition and their conspiracy theories, but the simplest answer is usually the correct one.

I have it on good authority that nobody EVER expects (or satisfies) the Spanish Inquisition and their conspiracy theories. Worse, they never EVER give up. That's why they're called "The Spanish Inquisition."

So prepare for the next interrogation when you're watering the plants, paying the electric bill or taking a piss. They have no sense of decorum. And logic? That's right out.

Mind you, I can't say much this way or the other about Art, but I can expound forever on the Spanish Inquisition. And given half a chance...

Value Of Pi

Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 02:45:41 PM
:-[
Please forgive me Segundus,  I don't read this thread much anymore. I'm sure someone has made the same point in the past.

It makes no sense, to make-up such a convoluted "stalker" story. When a simple lie 'would have' achived the same results.

If really, wanted to turn the show over to Heather. A simple lie..Art sez "have some private family issues, Heather will fill in, until things are worked out"

Heather, update listeners about Art and when he is expected to return.

Art returns, and sez "he'll be back every once in awhile, until things stabilize with private family issues"

Heather continues to fill in. Listeners get use to Heather.

Again it make no sense at all, to come up with a "stalker" story and risk involving the police, with unknown consequences of any investigation.

If it is assumed that Art is  smart and devious enough, to invent the stalker story. Then wouldn't it be logical that he would be smart enough, to understand its many risks. And come up with a simple lie, that accomplishes the same  objectives with no risk to his character and provides a way for it to become Heather's show.. Plus it would of protected the subscription income.

I believe Art.

He reacted, in panic, without thinking, wanted to protect his family first and foremost.

Heather is to be admired, she is trying to hold it together, until the day, when Art and his family feel safe again.

I believe and adore Heather.

TRUTH IS ..it's all a very sad for Art's fan.
No matter the TRUTH of what really happened.

Whole lotta believin' and adorin' goin on here with Heather. Columbo might ask, exactly what is this woman to you, sir? And where were you on the nights in question?

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 14, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Whole lotta believin' and adorin' goin on here with Heather. Columbo might ask, exactly what is this woman to you, sir? And where were you on the night in question?

Book 'em, Danno!


Value Of Pi

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 03:30:19 PM
Book 'em, Danno!

Wait for your cue, McGarrett. If you're gonna horn in on my investigation, and my TV show, at least wait for your cue. This is how they almost blew Watergate.

CornyCrow

Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 02:45:41 PM
:-[
Please forgive me Segundus,  I don't read this thread much anymore. I'm sure someone has made the same point in the past.

It makes no sense, to make-up such a convoluted "stalker" story. When a simple lie 'would have' achived the same results.

If really, wanted to turn the show over to Heather. A simple lie..Art sez "have some private family issues, Heather will fill in, until things are worked out"

Heather, update listeners about Art and when he is expected to return.

Art returns, and sez "he'll be back every once in awhile, until things stabilize with private family issues"

Heather continues to fill in. Listeners get use to Heather.

Again it make no sense at all, to come up with a "stalker" story and risk involving the police, with unknown consequences of any investigation.

If it is assumed that Art is  smart and devious enough, to invent the stalker story. Then wouldn't it be logical that he would be smart enough, to understand its many risks. And come up with a simple lie, that accomplishes the same  objectives with no risk to his character and provides a way for it to become Heather's show.. Plus it would of protected the subscription income.

I believe Art.

He reacted, in panic, without thinking, wanted to protect his family first and foremost.

Heather is to be admired, she is trying to hold it together, until the day, when Art and his family feel safe again.

I believe and adore Heather.

TRUTH IS ..it's all a very sad for Art's fan.
No matter the TRUTH of what really happened.
Well, we both agree that Art is prone to reacting in a rash manner, before thinking things out.  He started his show by trying to coax Heather into our hearts.  That was roundly rejected.  He never intended to do the every weekday night routine, so he was in a dilemma, pondering how to extricate himself when he heard some kids firing guns outside, which may not be a rare occurrence in his neck of the woods.  He saw that as an opportunity and built it from there.  Just as long as the cops were kept at arms length he was clear. 

If Art were being genuine, he'd be pursuing his stalker with all his power and promising us he'd be back as soon as the guy is caught.  He's not doing that.  That's because he never intended to be 'the show'.   

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 14, 2016, 03:36:57 PM
Wait for your cue, McGarrett. If you're gonna horn in on my investigation, and my TV show, at least wait for your cue. This is how they almost blew Watergate.

Yes, sir. I'll wait in the squad car. *shuffles away slowly*

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Segundus on February 14, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
Well, we both agree that Art is prone to reacting in a rash manner, before thinking things out.  He started his show by trying to coax Heather into our hearts.  That was roundly rejected.  He never intended to do the every weekday night routine, so he was in a dilemma, pondering how to extricate himself when he heard some kids firing guns outside, which may not be a rare occurrence in his neck of the woods.  He saw that as an opportunity and built it from there.  Just as long as the cops were kept at arms length he was clear. 

If Art were being genuine, he'd be pursuing his stalker with all his power and promising us he'd be back as soon as the guy is caught.  He's not doing that.  That's because he never intended to be 'the show'.

I'm with you, except I'd have added he would have done more to protect his family.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: rekcuf on February 14, 2016, 04:16:02 PM
Yes, sir. I'll wait in the squad car. *shuffles away slowly*

And remember, no shooting. First one that shoots, I'll have his gun and his badge.

(Sorry, always wanted to say that. I don't get too many chances.)

BellBoy

Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
TRUTH ..IS.. my opinion, doesn't matter.

Art is gone.

I love Art.. And want Art back!

That's my TRUTH

I will gladly listen to your TRUTH, WhiteCrow. Thank you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQBa2pTr9GU

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 14, 2016, 04:21:02 PM
And remember, no shooting. First one that shoots, I'll have his gun and his badge.

(Sorry, always wanted to say that. I don't get too many chances.)

;D

WhiteCrow

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 14, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Whole lotta believin' and adorin' goin on here with Heather. Columbo might ask, exactly what is this woman to you, sir? And where were you on the nights in question?

Sir, there is no,  just one more question with you..good bye!


https://youtu.be/biW9BbWJtQU

WhiteCrow

Quote from: BellBoy on February 14, 2016, 04:24:54 PM
I will gladly listen to yourTRUTH, WhiteCrow. Thank you.

Believe my  TRUTH

I BELIEVE ART

Value Of Pi

Quote from: WhiteCrow on February 14, 2016, 05:24:42 PM
Sir, there is no,  just one more question with you..good bye!


https://youtu.be/biW9BbWJtQU

I like this suspect's moxie. Nevertheless, I can guess how this episode ended. You can call the raincoat frumpy but there's no escaping it.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: Segundus on February 14, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
Well, we both agree that Art is prone to reacting in a rash manner, before thinking things out.  He started his show by trying to coax Heather into our hearts.  That was roundly rejected.  He never intended to do the every weekday night routine, so he was in a dilemma, pondering how to extricate himself when he heard some kids firing guns outside, which may not be a rare occurrence in his neck of the woods.  He saw that as an opportunity and built it from there.  Just as long as the cops were kept at arms length he was clear. 

If Art were being genuine, he'd be pursuing his stalker with all his power and promising us he'd be back as soon as the guy is caught.  He's not doing that.  That's because he never intended to be 'the show'.

It never ends, once falling into the Art Bell 'Rabbit Hole' thread.

"Never intended to be the show"

Dear Sir, If you are going to make a run at a journeyman master artistic troll.. Please up the gamesmanship.

Art redid his broadcast studio.
Art posted pictures of the studio.

That is Art's TRUTH


https://youtu.be/lbPv1BibcQo

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