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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on February 13, 2016, 10:18:55 AM
This article creeps up every now and then here, but it's interesting to compare a post by Art a month ago to what his ex-wife and kids had to say...

It gets us back to asking if Art is the type of person whose default position is to lie in order to make himself look better.

On the other hand, those kids haven't called in to the GabCast to tell their side of the story.

onan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 13, 2016, 11:48:17 AM
It gets us back to asking if Art is the type of person whose default position is to lie in order to make himself look better.

On the other hand, those kids haven't called in to the GabCast to tell their side of the story.

I think you may be one of Art's children, call in.

That's not a bad idea, since the Philadelphia Weekly article is nearly ten years old. I'll reach out to Vincent and Lisa (and possibly Kevin Bell from the comment section, though it's going to take some digging to substantiate his claim) to see if either one would be willing to be interviewed, on Gabcast or whatever feels most comfortable.

Uncle Duke

Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on February 13, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
That's not a bad idea, since the Philadelphia Weekly article is nearly ten years old. I'll reach out to Vincent and Lisa (and possibly Kevin Bell from the comment section, though it's going to take some digging to substantiate his claim) to see if either one would be willing to be interviewed, on Gabcast or whatever feels most comfortable.

If it looked like such an interview was going to be conducted on Gabcast, it would be interesting to see Art's reaction.  I think it's a safe bet MV would hear from Art, and/or Art might quit Bellgab for good....for a month or so.

ge30542

Quote from: SredniVashtar on February 13, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Or forced to pose for pictures in the snow, knowing that it was like a skeet-shooting range out there.

"PULL !"

Donald Noory

Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on February 13, 2016, 10:18:55 AM
This article creeps up every now and then here, but it's interesting to compare a post by Art a month ago to what his ex-wife and kids had to say. Art made it seem like she re-married shortly after he left (like in the ballpark of four months, for example) but two years is quite a long time to support yourself and two toddlers:

According to Pontius' mother Sachiko Toguchi, when they married she was 22 and Bell was 20. They met in Japan, where Bell served in the Air Force, and moved back to the States after marrying. Vincent Michael Bell was born in 1965, in Newark, N.J., but the trio moved back to Okinawa when Toguchi grew homesick.

The marriage lasted only a few years. Toguchi says that after she gave birth to Vincent's sister Lisa, Bell told her he was leaving.

"He told me he thought he could [be a husband and father], but he couldn't do it," says Sachiko Toguchi during a phone interview from Camp Hill, Pa. "Having two kids, a wife, he was not up to it. It was too much for him. I think he was [caught between] being a boy and a man."

Bell, for his part, acknowledges fathering both Vincent, whom he calls "Michael," and Lisa during a phone interview with PW. He declines to talk about why the relationship ended. "That was 40 years ago," he says. "I'm not sure what purpose it serves."

Toguchi was left to take care of two small children on her own. When she remarried about two years later, her new husband adopted the kids, freeing Bell from any legal obligations. Bell started living the life that made him famous.


/snip

Later, when Minei turned 28, she says she sent a letter to Bell, who had by then achieved fame. He responded with a one-page letter. It reads: "Many years ago I spoke with your mom. She told me that you and [Vincent] had been adopted by the man who had married her. It seemed better to let your family remain undisturbed. She told me he was a wonderful man who was father to you and Michael ... "

He also sent a signed copy of his autobiography The Art of Talk. The inscription reads: "To Lisa, Here's the 'rest of the story.'"

She says they emailed each other for a short time after that, but he didn't seem particularly enthused about starting a relationship. She soon stopped emailing him.

"He never wrote and said, 'Hey, why'd you stop emailing me?'" she says. "So I figured he didn't really want to be in touch."


/snip

"I started the conversation by saying, 'This is Sachiko's son,'" recalls Pontius of his single conversation with Bell. "I felt so disconnected by not having known Art senior, and I guess I feel liberated because not having heard from him haunted me for, like, 35 years. I saw flashes of emotion from him here and there. Maybe the first 20 minutes I sensed a little guilt, but he never apologized for leaving me, my mother and my sister."

Nice post calling yet more B.S. on what Art says. I just have to wonder why he couldn't figure out "he couldn't do it" before he had two kids. Or at least before the 2nd kid was born. Why did it take 2 kids for him to realize he "couldn't do it?"
Anyway, I have to wonder about someone who is capable of such behavior. I could never do that to my family, I guess because I have a conscience. I would never be able to live with myself.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Donald Noory on February 13, 2016, 02:01:27 PM

Anyway, I have to wonder about someone who is capable of such behavior. I could never do that to my family, I guess because I have a conscience. I would never be able to live with myself.

What?  You have a family?  And a conscience?  If that's the case how can you live with yourself by ignoring them to spend hours upon hours on a fan forum obsessively posting diatribes about the personal life of a radio host who left his children 50 years ago? 

Donald Noory

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 13, 2016, 02:26:04 PM
What?  You have a family?  And a conscience?  If that's the case how can you live with yourself by ignoring them to spend hours upon hours obsessively posting diatribes on a forum about the personal life of a radio host who left his children 50 years ago?

Actually, my post count is quite low. Be my guest and check it, you dumb twat. And compare it to other people who post over 50 times a day on this thread. You really are stupid, aren't you?

whoozit

When did the pig pile on Art thread start?


Donald Noory

Quote from: Danger!UFO on February 13, 2016, 02:44:29 PM
This.

Yeah, Sci-fi (non)author and Cuckadello need to read that. I think they average over 100 posts a day. Anyhoo, regardless of how often someone posts, it doesn't change the fact that your hero is a creep with a thimble-full of morals, if any.

Sean92008

Quote from: whoozit on February 13, 2016, 02:34:36 PM
When did the pig pile on Art thread start?

Maybe the seeds were planted when Art Bell started shoveling bullshit with claims of a stalker. The story, and his actions, weren't consistent with each other.

Danger!UFO

Quote from: Donald Noory on February 13, 2016, 02:49:10 PM
Yeah, Sci-fi (non)author and Cuckadello need to read that. I think they average over 100 posts a day. Anyhoo, regardless of how often someone posts, it doesn't change the fact that your hero is a creep with a thimble-full of morals, if any.

Keep repeating to yourself:

It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...

I told you, Chefist! bellgab.com is always 24-48 hours away from a dramatic incident. Here. We. Go.

p.s. I used the 'daddy went to the store for eCigs' reference for a reason. FYI, I wasn't trying to be mean spirited, but I was well aware of his past.


Quote from: Danger!UFO on February 13, 2016, 03:02:37 PM
Keep repeating to yourself:

It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...It's only a radio show...

And?

Oh... Got it. It's only a radio show.

It's only internet comments...it's only internet comments...It's only internet comments...

chefist

Quote from: rekcuf on February 13, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
I told you, Chefist! bellgab.com is always 24-48 hours away from a dramatic incident. Here. We. Go.

p.s. I used the 'daddy went to the store for eCigs' reference for a reason. FYI, I wasn't trying to be mean spirited, but I was well aware of his past.

You were right! I just was checking in and saw all the new happenings...

Value Of Pi

Quote from: FightTheFuture on February 13, 2016, 11:21:52 AM
If mom meets someone, and she wants that person to adopt the kids, I`m just sayin`, you better have the most blood -thirsty Jew lawyer in town to defend your rights, or Jr. is going to have a new daddy. Seen it many times.

Or even a really smart, devious, manipulative, unscrupulous, bloodthirsty lawyer who isn't Jewish. There are plenty of those around, too. That's the justice system for you, justice via pure brazen nastiness.


Value Of Pi

Quote from: rekcuf on February 13, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
I told you, Chefist! bellgab.com is always 24-48 hours away from a dramatic incident. Here. We. Go.

p.s. I used the 'daddy went to the store for eCigs' reference for a reason. FYI, I wasn't trying to be mean spirited, but I was well aware of his past.

The 24-48 hours thing is pretty suspicious to me. Putting on my many-sizes-too-small conspiracy hat, it just seems a little too consistent, too predictable, like someone is trying to keep us here.

I know everybody will immediately point at MV and his Depends, but he's probably just the patsy. Follow the money, or failing that in the case of BellGab, follow whatever trail applies to we here.

Who gains from keeping us here, aside from our spouses and significant others, who are probably innocent of any conspiratorial motives? There's a show's worth of material here, I think, even without the right guest.

EDIT:
I know you're all going to say I'm overlooking the prime suspect, Art. But isn't that a bit too obvious? I've got this hat on and it won't let me go to the "obvious extreme" in cases like this.

CornyCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on February 13, 2016, 11:21:52 AM
If mom meets someone, and she wants that person to adopt the kids, I`m just sayin`, you better have the most blood -thirsty Jew lawyer in town to defend your rights, or Jr. is going to have a new daddy. Seen it many times.
I think that's pretty low of you.  I really resent your bringing in the word 'Jew'.  Yeah, you're going to say it's a compliment, but we both know it's not.  It's just nasty.

Danger!UFO

Quote from: rekcuf on February 13, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
And?

Oh... Got it. It's only a radio show.

It's only internet comments...it's only internet comments...It's only internet comments...

Keep repeating to yourself:

It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life...


cweb

It's mean, but....

Next week on open lines: a special "Art's Children" line.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Danger!UFO on February 13, 2016, 04:36:00 PM
Keep repeating to yourself:

It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life... It's OK for me to turn off the computer and get a life...

What if it turns out that the life someone had on the computer was better than the one they decided to get not on the computer? Would they have been better off not trying to "get a life?"

coaster

So I was just thinking of something and thought I'd mention it. I'm sure it will make some of your eyes roll.
I always assumed that Art's stalker wanted the show off the air, but I guess he just wanted Art off the air. He doesn't seem to mind that the show itself is still airing. Does Art still get mysterious calls? Does Heather? If Heather is just Art's mouthpiece, wouldn't the stalker still be angry? Odd that he just up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
Makes one wonder.

coaster

Quote from: Mr. Fidget on February 13, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
Seat yourself.
I thought you were homeless or something. Do a lot of homeless people dabble in graphic design? I had no idea that photoshop was available to them. thats nice. I think it's great that someone who has to "sing for their supper" has the available tools to create. (computer, photoshop, internet). high five.

littlechris

Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on February 13, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
I'll reach out to Vincent and Lisa (and possibly Kevin Bell from the comment section, though it's going to take some digging to substantiate his claim) to see if either one would be willing to be interviewed, on Gabcast or whatever feels most comfortable.

OH SNAP!!!!


ge30542

Quote from: Segundus on February 13, 2016, 04:20:38 PM
I think that's pretty low of you.  I really resent your bringing in the word 'Jew'.  Yeah, you're going to say it's a compliment, but we both know it's not.  It's just nasty.
I agree with this post.

ge30542

Quote from: coaster on February 13, 2016, 04:50:19 PM
So I was just thinking of something and thought I'd mention it. I'm sure it will make some of your eyes roll.
I always assumed that Art's stalker wanted the show off the air, but I guess he just wanted Art off the air. He doesn't seem to mind that the show itself is still airing. Does Art still get mysterious calls? Does Heather? If Heather is just Art's mouthpiece, wouldn't the stalker still be angry? Odd that he just up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
Makes one wonder.
Dude, there is no tooth fairy, easter bunny, or stalker.

scottydawg

 Well now this has changed a few things about Art in my eyes, not only is he serial quitter in radio, but he's a serial quitter on his kids!
Gee what a first class heel. He might as well join the NAACP and move to the south side of Chicago next to an all night Liquor Store!
The most confusing day in the Ghetto and in Paraump is Father's Day! Make's me wonder if Father Malachi Martin knew what a a$$hole
Art was to his wives and kids. If there is an afterlife Art has a lot of "Splainin to do in front of Saint Peter!"
If Airyn is smart she'll go see a lawyer as soon as possible.

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