Art Bell

[GravitySucks]

Contempt maybe?

Acceptance. Turns out it is not just a good idea, it is the law.

[Mr. Fidget]

As an artist, one must often endure other people's misconceptions about the very nature of what "work", even is.

Such is life.

My work speaks for itself, if people don't hear it...
It's not for them. A far cry from "begging", what a chump.

[trostol]

Don't you have a tree to climb?

ha!!!

[SciFiAuthor]

that's definitely a drag.  no doubt.

They seriously need variety outside of the woo topics. It's the same 50 people guesting on all of the shows, talking about the same things day after day after day with very few people having anything new to say. That has the effect of making the network unlistenable except for a few hours each night, yet those few hours are dedicated to the same shit everyone else is talking about with those same 50 guests. The only one there now that has any meaningful variety as far as guests and subject matter is Hoagland, and he's too much of an egotistical ass to conduct a proper interview. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the innovator on the network is Hoagland.

[onan]

As an artist, one must often endure other people's misconceptions about the very nature of what "work", even is.

Such is life.

Oh please. You are giving yourself an out to be irresponsible. Most artists find ways to support themselves, vagrants don't. Skateboarding isn't a career move. It may be a lucky shot but not for most people. Get help.

[GravitySucks]

Stick with the book.

I agree. That has been my plan, especially after Art's interview with Tess Gerritsen. Sandra Bullock or no Sandra Bullock.

[ItsOver]

I agree. Believe it or not, I listen to all three hours of Rush every day, even though I'm not necessarily his target demographic. The man is a master of his craft, and nothing makes that more evident than every afternoon, Rush ends and Hannity begins. Hannity is the Noory of political talk radio.

Guys like Art and Limbaugh are extremely rare.

Yes, sir.  Rush and Art both appear to be rare "naturals."  And, yes, when Hannity comes, off goes the AM.  Too much like Clyde again with long, never-stopping-for-a-breath rants.  I'm just surprised a profit-driven operation such as Premrad hasn't put in apparent effort to find a talent for the night.  Over ten years of Noory?  WTF?

Thanks again for your work, NXOEED.  Really intriguing "Art" work.

[GravitySucks]

They seriously need variety outside of the woo topics. It's the same 50 people guesting on all of the shows, talking about the same things day after day after day with very few people having anything new to say. That has the effect of making the network unlistenable except for a few hours each night, yet those few hours are dedicated to the same shit everyone else is talking about with those same 50 guests. The only one there now that has any meaningful variety as far as guests and subject matter is Hoagland, and he's too much of an egotistical ass to conduct a proper interview. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the innovator on the network is Hoagland.

But every 4 weeks Nick Redfern will have another book out.

[NXOEED]

Yes, sir.  Rush and Art both appear to be rare "naturals."  And, yes, when Hannity comes, off goes the AM.  Too much like Clyde again with long, never-stopping-for-a-breath rants.  I'm just surprise a profit-driven operation such as Premrad hasn't put in apparent effort to find a talent for the night.  Over ten years of Noory?  WTF?

Thanks again for your work, NXOEED.  Really intriguing "Art" work.

Thank you kindly.

[Lilith]

I don't take issue with your opinions. I didn't even say they were good guests. I was just pointing out that I can see what factors Art may have considered when he decided Heather was his first choice.

Do you agree that Heather was employed by the network?
Do you agree Heather was the producer?
Do you agree that she had interviewed the guests as part of her job?

I don't know what I said that makes you say "I don't agree with a single thing you said there". Those are 3 things that everyone should be able to agree with. Those are just facts.

The format of the show as a paranormal show was made long before Heather became part of the show. Maybe she will expand the format now that Art has said it should be her show. Who knows. I hope she does.

You know I love you Brig. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I just jumped in with my opinion.

Ok, well just taking your examples *for example* lol's


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1.Do you agree that Heather was employed by the network?
2.Do you agree Heather was the producer?
3.Do you agree that she had interviewed the guests as part of her job"?

Number 1.  Being hired by the network has no merit as a qualification because hiring her might have not been a good decision.
Number 2. I agree Heather was given the job as the producer. Was she the right person for the job?  I don't think so, so that has no merit as a qualification either IMO.
Number3.  I have no idea if she interviewed them or not.  My guess, most of them were so well known, and heard so many times over on so many different programs, what questions would be left to ask in an interview?  So again, number 3 leaves me with no merit as a qualification.

Love you TOO GS !!!   

[Mr. Fidget]

Propaganda!

You are a troll.
:

You are so informed as to not know the difference between roller skates, and skateboards.
What a tool.
You need some real world experience.

[onan]

You are a troll.
:

You are a vagrant.

[ItsOver]

... It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the innovator on the network is Hoagland.

Heh.  Yes, sir.  By innovator, we're talking about the hair, right?

[WhiteCrow]

I think something happened-

Listening to the interview (which so far is some of the best Art bell ive heard in ages) one thing that strikes me is his comment about (paraphrase) "I had my finger on the trigger and could have shot him and then it all hit me how close I was to taking another human beings life"- That isnt something I think hes making up. I personally had a semi similar incident with a break in at my home while living in the country and I went inside with my firearm drawn and would have shot someone (they were already gone thank god) and even though I never pointed my firearm at another person, I still had everything hit me shortly after and really was a terrifying and life changing thing realizing you could have taken a human life even if it was justified and in self defense it would change everything forever... Anyhow, the way he described that struck me as true. He didnt try to come across like a badass but like a real human being.

Overall my opinion isnt really changed- I think something did happen but I dont buy the stalker story and really do think he was ready to hang up the mic and found what he felt would be a valid excuse... But i'm way more inclined to feel that the incident with the firearm drawn was a real incident. Could be simply kids fucking around and vandalizing things but in an area like that where everyone is heavily armed I would think kids would be a bit smarter and that there was probably a valid concern of someone being on his property.

I dont really subscribe to any conspiracy theory or real plot being hatched by anyone to "take Art off the air"- There's just far too many mental gymnastics I have to go through to see any plausibility in that.

I dont know man- I dont think any of us will ever know, really. We either believe Art or we dont and then we speculate on what could be an infinite number of scenarios. I could find plausible and implausible points to probably every scenario and I have my own feelings on the matter (although I think theres more truth to what Art is saying than i did prior to the first 10 mins of this interview) but regardless- The only one who will ever know the full truth for sure and without any question is Art bell.

That said this is a hell of a good interview so far.

Really like .. If haven't already make a donation to MV.

[theONE]

Ok, well just taking your examples *for example* lol's


"
1.Do you agree that Heather was employed by the network?
2.Do you agree Heather was the producer?
3.Do you agree that she had interviewed the guests as part of her job"?

Number 1.  Being hired by the network has no merit as a qualification because hiring her might have not been a good decision.
Number 2. I agree Heather was given the job as the producer. Was she the right person for the job?  I don't think so, so that has no merit as a qualification either IMO.
Number3.  I have no idea if she interviewed them or not.  My guess, most of them were so well known, and heard so many times over on so many different programs, what questions would be left to ask in an interview?  So again, number 3 leaves me with no merit as a qualification.

Love you TOO GS !!!   

Your points are very intelligently made !!

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I actually thought about it.  But then people would want me to explain gravity, and since there is really no fundamental understanding of gravity, I would become frustrated.

That's why it sucks. Can't understand it.

I've had gravity and centrifugal force explained to me by people until they were blue in the face, and I still never will understand how we can stand upright on the surface of a spinning ball and not be flung off into space.

[onan]

I've had gravity and centrifugal force explained to me by people until they were blue in the face, and I still never will understand how we can stand upright on the surface of a spinning ball and not be flung off into space.

velcro

[GravitySucks]

Ok, well just taking your examples *for example* lol's


"
1.Do you agree that Heather was employed by the network?
2.Do you agree Heather was the producer?
3.Do you agree that she had interviewed the guests as part of her job"?

Number 1.  Being hired by the network has no merit as a qualification because hiring her might have not been a good decision.
Number 2. I agree Heather was given the job as the producer. Was she the right person for the job?  I don't think so, so that has no merit as a qualification either IMO.
Number3.  I have no idea if she interviewed them or not.  My guess, most of them were so well known, and heard so many times over on so many different programs, what questions would be left to ask in an interview?  So again, number 3 leaves me with no merit as a qualification.

Love you TOO GS !!!   

LOL well I never said they were the right decisions. Seems like you have been let down by Art from the get go. I can understand that.

Love Brig, Get WhiteCrow, Need Serenity, Want bacon.

[Mr. Fidget]

Nothing but insults.

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[gabrielle]

Art, I think Heather is doing an admirable job.  I enjoy her shows.  She is one of us Bellgabbers.  However, you are ART BELL and I miss you. 

Please come back to the airwaves whenever you can.


You have a gift from the heavens...IMHO. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Heh.  Yes, sir.  By innovator, we're talking about the hair, right?

Indeed, Hoagie's hair NEVER goes out of style. Neither do bolo ties.

[ItsOver]

I've had gravity and centrifugal force explained to me by people until they were blue in the face, and I still never will understand how we can stand upright on the surface of a spinning ball and not be flung off into space.

"The Suck is strong with this one."

[theONE]

You are a vagrant.

onan, there is really no need for that !!

[onan]

onan, there is really no need for that !!

It is the truth isn't it?

[GravitySucks]

I've had gravity and centrifugal force explained to me by people until they were blue in the face, and I still never will understand how we can stand upright on the surface of a spinning ball and not be flung off into space.

Because we are falling towards the center of the earth faster than we are falling up towards space.

[Donald Noory]

Boy I have struggled to remain neutral in all this hate but I have had it up to here and now feel Art lied about everything, would not know the truth if it bit him in the ass. He is the most disingenuous Con Man I have ever heard, simply a lying SOB. Beyond that I don't trust him, if I don't stop now I will Vomit, I will never listen to that Pussy again and want my money back.

I concur with your self-assessment.

[theONE]

It is the truth isn't it?

no comment 

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

Number 1.  Being hired by the network has no merit as a qualification because hiring her might have not been a good decision.
Number 2. I agree Heather was given the job as the producer. Was she the right person for the job?  I don't think so, so that has no merit as a qualification either IMO.
Number3.  I have no idea if she interviewed them or not.  My guess, most of them were so well known, and heard so many times over on so many different programs, what questions would be left to ask in an interview?  So again, number 3 leaves me with no merit as a qualification.

That's the thing, a pre-interview with a guest isn't about entertaining an audience and has no bearing on whether someone can host a live show or not. My impression of Heather's MITD is that she researches a topic, such as rods (with a guest that has been discredited time and time again), and doesn't have the ability to flow into other topics throughout the conversation because she's one track and isn't informed on the subject matter enough if the guest takes her in another direction. It's why the listeners are told to give her a weekend to look into something a caller brought up like the UFO in Zimbabwe seen by dozens of school children back in 1994. Excuses to get by.

[MV/Liberace!]

MV Last Year said that Keith Roland was a shit then when the interview with Keith was done and he could get one of the programes back on his network MV said oh he wasnt that bad.

I am proud to say I have always stuck by Art and by Redacted .

please define "stuck by".  i have no idea what that means.  does it refer to carrying water?  if so, then guilty as charged, i suppose.  but have i turned on redacted at any point?  no.

my thoughts on things have evolved over time, no doubt.  putting the spec sheet back on dmrn was a mistake, but singing kumbaya with keith wasn't.  as you apparently don't recall from the gabcast episode you cite, i made nice with keith in an effort to end some of the infighting and grease the skids to get art back on the air.  remember, just a couple days before that, keith had quit because of art's reaction to an "unfortunate" tweet keith accidentally posted about me.  i continued to keep my mouth shut about keith until i saw his post on artbell.com which clearly was intended as a passive aggressive attack on heather, the host of his own network's flagship show (and someone i happen to like).  if you're such a paragon of consistency, keen on "sticking by" heather, you should have called keith out on that, too.  where were you?

Four Podcasts back MV SAYS IF ART COMES BACK I WILL TAKE THE ATTITUDE(OH WELL)

yup.  i said that.  what's your point?  i'm puzzled at how you would be surprised when someone takes that attitude after the events of the last two months.  is it your point that i shouldn't have done the interview with art as a result of that statement?  or are you saying my thoughts on things should be rigid and unevolving?  i guess i don't get your point.  your post lacks nuance.

I get you want to make money MV but your turning into Ed Dames. Man who sit on fence get splinters in ass.

oof, another one of these guys.  i apologize for making money off of this forum, but you need to understand that i would have shut this thing down years ago if it weren't for the money it makes.  not worth the headache, otherwise.  i'm glad you have the time, willingness, and purity to do everything gratis in your life, but not me.

and it's you're, not your.

[MV/Liberace!]

Not totally wrong, but mostly, IMO. Any replacement host would've caught flak initially, just as fallout from the way Art left. Then, gradually, as people listened, they would have given the new host credit for whatever talents and abilities they brought to the show. Gradual but genuine acceptance, at least on a temporary basis.

Heather isn't accepted because she hasn't got the goods and most listeners refuse to be cowed into saying or believing otherwise. just because a few others choose to accept her.

fair enough.