Art Bell

[Night Train]

I warned you that if you stuck around for more than 3 days we would have your ass hooked. Start as a maggot troll, now you are just an addict. Welcome to BellGab. Post often, we appreciated the revenue. How's that World's best productivity tool/site blocker working for you? Heh, Addict?

Ho'oponopono:

I am sorry. 

Please forgive me. 

I love you. 

Thank you.

[SciFiAuthor]

Are you serious??

Yes.

Art had no other options to mitigate the alleged stalker situation than to quit?!?.....with all his connections and more than deep pockets.....like $10M???....and he really wanted to do the show?....c'mon

Yes, you've wasted an impressive amount of time overanalyzing the situation because you take everything as not being at face value as a rule. That is a flawed outlook because it never allows for a cigar to just be a cigar, though it's also not always without warrant. In this case, there was nothing more here than Art making reactionary dumb decisions instead of deliberately thinking things through. There is no reason to suspect otherwise and it seems consistent with "all in" and the many other mercurial decisions he's made in the past. You've overcooked the turkey simply to overcook the turkey, which makes me question your holiday cooking skills and motives. Whenever you burn the biscuits, know that I'm onto you.

[albrecht]

Im not saying anything aint true. But what I can't fathom is why the freakout/quit? Even if all true. Living next to BLM land in semi rural Nevada and stuff like gunshots and/or fireworks worry? Crap, im more nervous when I DON'T hear yahoos shooting shit and carrying on and this is Texas. I hear Nevada even crazier. It is weird. I get trespasser or calls worring but still...cant be new thing for a radio host who, in my opinion, talks too much about his family/location. A strange situation. Love Art and thanks for the great shows but weird end.

[GravitySucks]

Im not saying anything aint true. But what I can't fathom is why the freakout/quit? Even if all true. Living next to BLM land in semi rural Nevada and stuff like gunshots and/or fireworks worry? Crap, im more nervous when I DON'T hear yahoos shooting shit and carrying on and this is Texas. I hear Nevada even crazier. It is weird. I get trespasser or calls worring but still...cant be new thing for a radio host who, in my opinion, talks too much about his family/location. A strange situation. Love Art and thanks for the great shows but weird end.

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS A "BUT"?

[3OctaveFart]

Can anyone answer why Heather called the police and not Art's wife? I'll hang up and listen.

[Taco Bell]

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS A "BUT"?

Where there's a but, there may be an asshole.

It's where the poopy comes out.

[Kolchak]

If there was ever a night to cease bickering and unite Bellgab, however briefly, it should be X-Files premiere night.

[GravitySucks]

Can anyone answer why Heather called the police and not Art's wife? I'll hang up and listen.

This is only from memory... Art told Heather about it over the phone, right before the show. He didn't want to call the police.  Heather took it upon herself to call the police.

Like I said, it is only my memory of explanations I heard or read, but I believe it to be correct.

Beyond that, it is really none of our business.

[PB the Deplorable]

...  My main thing, which I share with others here, is that I would be happy if Art were getting therapy to try to understand this peculiar pattern he has of committing and then quitting.

That would probably bring sympathy instead of contempt, and be his best way back.   



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0PisGe66mY

[PB the Deplorable]

If there was ever a night to cease bickering and unite Bellgab, however briefly, it should be X-Files premiere night.

It's on at 7pm here.  10pm seems more suitable

[Value Of Pi]

In reading some of the comments critical of Art and Heather here I get the impression most BellGabers are in the under 50 demographic.  For those of you who grew up in the age of video, you might incorrectly assume you know--or should know--nearly everything about the person in front of the camera, or behind the mic.  This would explain your frustration with not having a visual of Heather.  Since this is a forum based on a radio personality, I think it might help to consider the historical context...

During the golden age of radio, (roughly 1940s-1970s, perhaps best demarcated by the arrival of MTV in 1981) radio personalities were essentially a disembodied voice behind the mic.  The inherent mystery of their identity was an essential component of the magic of radio, central to its theater of the mind. 

Also, it was common practice for radio personalities (and movie stars) to use pseudonyms.  Yet despite the near anonymity of most radio personalities, those who were skilled and talented were capable of creating an easy intimacy with their listeners.  And, as listeners solely captivated by their audio performance--we demanded nothing more; where they lived, who they dated, or what they ate for dinner ( )) was of no concern.

And now, in the age of the Internet and the immediacy with which we share personal pictures, video and audio around the world, we operate with little left to the imagination.  Because Art shared photos and some details of his life with his audience however, it doesn't equate with personally knowing him much better than if he were a disembodied voice on the radio in the 1960s.  To assume otherwise is foolish.  It seems to me those who hang around and continue to deride him here at BG for a litany of perceived hurts and disappointments are really no different from his "friends" on fb.  Both groups suffer under the illusion they know Art Bell.

Art is a hard, if not impossible act to follow.  I think as he approached retirement age he naively thought he'd find a replacement, as radio bosses did in the past.  As I've said previously, perhaps the best resolution here now is for Art to return on-air and give his extraordinary career the closure he and his listeners deserve.

Some truth here, but I think the biggest factor leading to Art's current troubles with his fans is the direct, public, two-way contact that is now possible on social media. In the old days, some publicist would release a statement, there might be interviews, and fan magazines would cover any controversy. Then maybe a book, when the story finally ended.

Trying to interact the way Art has with his fans is full of hidden dangers for anyone in the public eye. So we're here watching the problems pop up left and right.

[SaucyRossy]

Oh, it has not.  One guy came on here a day or two ago and said there was no way Art was having an affair with Heather, because, and this is an actual quote, "he sounds professional on the phone."  Wow; that's some really powerful "evidence."

Aldous Burbank came on here last night or this morning and said that he could assure us that Art and Heather weren't fooling around, because he had shaken Art's hand and looked in his eyes, which is all the proof anyone should need!  Besides, Heather's a good girl, who had the chance to boink Aldous, and she didn't, so why would she boink a guy with ten million bucks who could give her very own radio show? :

So why do you believe this to be true? What's your information that you have that those of us that know Heather and Art don't have. I mean if you're just trolling to troll, you're not that good at it. But if you actually have a reason to believe this ridiculous theory that they are having an affair, then please back it up with some info and facts because you spend so much time writing stuff on here, there must be something driving you. Just say it?

[Taco Bell]

So why do you believe this to be true? What's your information that you have that those of us that know Heather and Art don't have. I mean if you're just trolling to troll, you're not that good at it. But if you actually have a reason to believe this ridiculous theory that they are having an affair, then please back it up with some info and facts because you spend so much time writing stuff on here, there must be something driving you. Just say it?

Don't get too close to his fantasy.

[Night Train]

Im not saying anything aint true. But what I can't fathom is why the freakout/quit? Even if all true. Living next to BLM land in semi rural Nevada and stuff like gunshots and/or fireworks worry? Crap, im more nervous when I DON'T hear yahoos shooting shit and carrying on and this is Texas. I hear Nevada even crazier. It is weird. I get trespasser or calls worring but still...cant be new thing for a radio host who, in my opinion, talks too much about his family/location. A strange situation. Love Art and thanks for the great shows but weird end.

It's a real headscratcher.  I take no position on whether Art and Heather are/were fooling around, except to demonstrate how ridiculous these guys are who come on and say stuff like "I know Art/Heather and he/she would never do anything like that."  Don't much care, either.

But why end what was one of the truly legendary radio careers by disgracing yourself like this?  Back to back, too, with Sirius and now MITD.

I'll never understand it.  I don't love Art, but I don't hate him either.  But he clearly seems to have a screw or two loose.

But there's still the Somewhere in Time shows, and every now and then I download one and remember how great he used to be.

And it makes me very sad.

[SaucyRossy]

The problem being that any of the alternative hypotheses regarding Art's motives for leaving require certain assumptions to be made. These range from assuming he wanted to leave the show to assuming he's in a relationship with (Redacted) that's more than a professional mentorship. All of the hypotheses are driven by various collections of assumptions. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Right, it does all seem based on assumptions. I mean where did these assumptions originate? Is it simply because heather doesn't have radio experience, is a female, arts a guy, and for her to been hand picked by art it means they MUST be having an affair? I mean really is that it?

I've had very well known, talented, successful mentors who've helped me, guided me, gave me huge opportunities. And not one of them did I have an affair with and not once did any one jump to that conclusion when they found out about how lucky I was to be taken under someone's wing. I mean, I don't really care about the whole sjw shit, but if this whole rumor and theory got started just because arts a dude and heathers a chick, then that's some weak shit.

[GravitySucks]

It's a real headscratcher.  I take no position on whether Art and Heather are/were fooling around, except to demonstrate how ridiculous these guys are who come on and say stuff like "I know Art/Heather and he/she would never do anything like that."  Don't much care, either.

But why end what was one of the truly legendary radio careers by disgracing yourself like this?  Back to back, too, with Sirius and now MITD.

I'll never understand it.  I don't love Art, but I don't hate him either.  But he clearly seems to have a screw or two loose.

But there's still the Somewhere in Time shows, and every now and then I download one and remember how great he used to be.

And it makes me very sad.

And your wife is trading text messages with some guy while you are wasting time on the Internet. Addict. Is this worth destroying your marriage for?

[trostol]

Right, it does all seem based on assumptions. I mean where did these assumptions originate? Is it simply because heather doesn't have radio experience, is a female, arts a guy, and for her to been hand picked by art it means they MUST be having an affair? I mean really is that it?

I've had very well known, talented, successful mentors who've helped me, guided me, gave me huge opportunities. And not one of them did I have an affair with and not once did any one jump to that conclusion when they found out about how lucky I was to be taken under someone's wing. I mean, I don't really care about the whole sjw shit, but if this whole rumor and theory got started just because arts a dude and heathers a chick, then that's some weak shit.

Hoagie didnt hit on you? well there goes that theory lol

[SaucyRossy]

And your wife is trading text messages with some guy while you are wasting time on the Internet. Addict. Is this worth destroying your marriage for?

Wait, night trains wife is talking to another guy while he's on here obsessing? Hahahaha

[Night Train]

So why do you believe this to be true? What's your information that you have that those of us that know Heather and Art don't have. I mean if you're just trolling to troll, you're not that good at it. But if you actually have a reason to believe this ridiculous theory that they are having an affair, then please back it up with some info and facts because you spend so much time writing stuff on here, there must be something driving you. Just say it?

I've never once said Heather and Art are or were fooling around.  I have no idea, and don't much care.

All I've said is that it's hardly unreasonable for people to wonder about it. 

And I pointed out how idiotic it was for you to claim that you're certain Art wouldn't have an affair with Heather, because "he sounds professional on the phone."  Do you really have no idea how stupid that sounds?

And then we had the beta male orbiter Aldous Burbank come on here last night and reveal his gigantic crush on Heather.  And he said that he had shaken Art's hand and looked into his eye, and from that, he absolutely knew that Art and Heather weren't fooling around.  And he also went on and on about what a good girl Heather is - after all, she could've boinked Aldous, and she didn't, so why would she boink a guy who's worth $10 mil and can give her a radio show?   Again, pretty stupid.

[SaucyRossy]

Hoagie didnt hit on you? well there goes that theory lol

Haha I don't count him amongst the mentors I've had.

[trostol]

Haha I don't count him amongst the mentors I've had.

[GravitySucks]

Wait, night trains wife is talking to another guy while he's on here obsessing? Hahahaha

Exactly. She is tired of her dead beat husband being an obsessed troll. She is moving on.

[SaucyRossy]

I've never once said Heather and Art are or were fooling around.  I have no idea, and don't much care.

All I've said is that it's hardly unreasonable for people to wonder about it. 

And I pointed out how idiotic it was for you to claim that you're certain Art wouldn't have an affair with Heather, because "he sounds professional on the phone."  Do you really have no idea how stupid that sounds?

And then we had the beta male orbiter Aldous Burbank come on here last night and reveal his gigantic crush on Heather.  And he said that he had shaken Art's hand and looked into his eye, and from that, he absolutely knew that Art and Heather weren't fooling around.  And he also went on and on about what a good girl Heather is - after all, she could've boinked Aldous, and she didn't, so why would she boink a guy who's worth $10 mil and can give her a radio show?   Again, pretty stupid.

I didn't say I was certain of anything. I make judgements based on my gut and instincts just like any other man does. You know the term sizing someone up? Ever been sized up? Ever sized up someone you meet and do business with? Do you understand the intricacies of human interactions?

And you've been championing the idea of an affair from before I said anything. So, either lay your thoughts out and tell me why I should change my mind or continue your whatever it is you're doing?

[GravitySucks]

I didn't say I was certain of anything. I make judgements based on my gut and instincts just like any other man does. You know the term sizing someone up? Ever been sized up? Ever sized up someone you meet and do business with? Do you understand the intricacies of human interactions?

And you've been championing the idea of an affair from before I said anything. So, either lay your thoughts out and tell me why I should change my mind or continue your whatever it is you're doing?

He is a pissed off troll that is still butt hurt over the Sirius radio he bought.

[Night Train]

I didn't say I was certain of anything. I make judgements based on my gut and instincts just like any other man does. You know the term sizing someone up? Ever been sized up? Ever sized up someone you meet and do business with? Do you understand the intricacies of human interactions?

And you've been championing the idea of an affair from before I said anything. So, either lay your thoughts out and tell me why I should change my mind or continue your whatever it is you're doing?

That's a flat out lie.  I've never said said Art and Heather are or were having an affair.

[Value Of Pi]

In terms of who knows what, I don't see a good reason to believe that anyone posting on this site has the facts on what exactly went down with Art and MITD -- regardless of whether or not they know Art or any of the other people involved.

I did find it curious that AB took the trouble to write such a long, involved post in an attempt to deflate rumors of an affair. He did try to explain his reasons, but I didn't find them convincing. All he accomplished was to bring the subject up again. I didn't see any useful purpose in doing this.

[Night Train]

In terms of who knows what, I don't see a good reason to believe that anyone posting on this site has the facts on what exactly went down with Art and MITD -- regardless of whether or not they know Art or any of the other people involved.

I did find it curious that AB took the trouble to write such a long, involved post in an attempt to deflate rumors of an affair. He did try to explain his reasons, but I didn't find them convincing. All he accomplished was to bring the subject up again. I didn't see any useful purpose in doing this.

I guess I missed that post.  Must've been before I discovered Bellgab.  Sounds like interesting reading.

[SaucyRossy]

That's a flat out lie.  I've never said said Art and Heather are or were having an affair.

So now you're nitpicking words and phrases? Now you're being selective?

[Mind Flayer Monk]

He is a pissed off troll that is still butt hurt over the Sirius radio he bought.

I'm still angry about the Sirius radio I bought.

[SaucyRossy]

In terms of who knows what, I don't see a good reason to believe that anyone posting on this site has the facts on what exactly went down with Art and MITD -- regardless of whether or not they know Art or any of the other people involved.

I did find it curious that AB took the trouble to write such a long, involved post in an attempt to deflate rumors of an affair. He did try to explain his reasons, but I didn't find them convincing. All he accomplished was to bring the subject up again. I didn't see any useful purpose in doing this.

When was this? Can you quote it?