Art Bell

[GravitySucks]

Likewise GS. Real life kept me busy. Looks like I didn't miss much...

Give thanks my friend. Give thanks.

[Value Of Pi]

What would you do in her situation?
She works for Art, not Keith, the boss put her in a situation, im not sure if she has a contract, if so like i said, what would you do?

I'm not at all clear on what her situation is. I have very little information, few specifics, and I don't know any of the people involved. So it's impossible to even speculate about what I'd do.

The reason for my comment and the point I ended on is that you seem to be the only person on the forum who a) actually knows her and b) insists that she really doesn't want to be hosting. IOW, doesn't want the job, period. Plus, the fact is, she's still there and you're still saying she doesn't want to be. If I take what you've said at face value, there are some things that don't add up convincingly. I mentioned to you (think it was you) that I highly doubted that she had any kind of binding contract that would cover her new role on the show. I also doubt she has any contract at all.

So Heather is as big a mystery as Art in all this. Does this make MITD a better show as a result? Unfortunately, no. She's not even getting that benefit.

If someone somewhere wants me or anyone else to believe one thing or another, they need a decent story which hangs together. We don't have that with the current MITD.

[Value Of Pi]

Or in the eyes of the buyer - about 5 million clams worth the last time it sold:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo...Los!

Bad link but wow.

[Walks_At_Night]

Bad link but wow.

Let's try this link:

http://www.roylichtenstein.com/torpedo-los.jsp

[Barfly]

I'm not at all clear on what her situation is. I have very little information, few specifics, and I don't know any of the people involved. So it's impossible to even speculate about what I'd do.

The reason for my comment and the point I ended on is that you seem to be the only person on the forum who a) actually knows her and b) insists that she really doesn't want to be hosting. IOW, doesn't want the job, period. Plus, the fact is, she's still there and you're still saying she doesn't want to be. If I take what you've said at face value, there are some things that don't add up convincingly. I mentioned to you (think it was you) that I highly doubted that she had any kind of binding contract that would cover her new role on the show. I also doubt she has any contract at all.

So Heather is as big a mystery as Art in all this. Does this make MITD a better show as a result? Unfortunately, no. She's not even getting that benefit.

If someone somewhere wants me or anyone else to believe one thing or another, they need a decent story which hangs together. We don't have that with the current MITD.

I have stated before i think Keith should shut down the network, its just a business decision, way to much time spent building it, Keith will do fine without the headache

[GravitySucks]

I'm not at all clear on what her situation is. I have very little information, few specifics, and I don't know any of the people involved. So it's impossible to even speculate about what I'd do.

The reason for my comment and the point I ended on is that you seem to be the only person on the forum who a) actually knows her and b) insists that she really doesn't want to be hosting. IOW, doesn't want the job, period. Plus, the fact is, she's still there and you're still saying she doesn't want to be. If I take what you've said at face value, there are some things that don't add up convincingly. I mentioned to you (think it was you) that I highly doubted that she had any kind of binding contract that would cover her new role on the show. I also doubt she has any contract at all.

So Heather is as big a mystery as Art in all this. Does this make MITD a better show as a result? Unfortunately, no. She's not even getting that benefit.

If someone somewhere wants me or anyone else to believe one thing or another, they need a decent story which hangs together. We don't have that with the current MITD.

If you were driving your car, turning the dial on the radio and found a talk show host that you thought was worth listening to, would you stop your car so you could google the host and see who they were, where they came from, what kind of contract they had and try and find a picture to see what they looked like?  I don't think so.  Why do you expect more from, and about her?

If you find the show interesting, then listen and enjoy it. If you don't, then change the channel.

I don't get the relevance of trying to solve the "mystery".

[Robert]

Interviewing is equally challenging IMO.

Today I watched a recent video interview of Jerry Lewis.  At the end, the subject told the interviewer it was the best interview Mr. Lewis had ever had because he knew the right Qs to ask, and was interested in the As.  That's what's wrong w Noory, primarily.  It wasn't all flattery, either; the interviewer put him on the spot about some things, so it's not like Jerry Lewis was just praising the guy for making him look good.

[popple]

[GravitySucks]

You got it hoppin tonight Popple!

[ponyboysunset]

Happy New Year Little Hedgehog!

[phrodo]

I'm not at all clear on what her situation is. I have very little information, few specifics, and I don't know any of the people involved. So it's impossible to even speculate about what I'd do.

The reason for my comment and the point I ended on is that you seem to be the only person on the forum who a) actually knows her and b) insists that she really doesn't want to be hosting. IOW, doesn't want the job, period. Plus, the fact is, she's still there and you're still saying she doesn't want to be. If I take what you've said at face value, there are some things that don't add up convincingly. I mentioned to you (think it was you) that I highly doubted that she had any kind of binding contract that would cover her new role on the show. I also doubt she has any contract at all.

So Heather is as big a mystery as Art in all this. Does this make MITD a better show as a result? Unfortunately, no. She's not even getting that benefit.

If someone somewhere wants me or anyone else to believe one thing or another, they need a decent story which hangs together. We don't have that with the current MITD.

Actually I think Aldous knows her better than anyone here ... but he rarely posts anymore. Given the currrent state of this place I can't say as I blame him. Too bad -- he usually had some humorous observations things.

[Barfly]

If you were driving your car, turning the dial on the radio and found a talk show host that you thought was worth listening to, would you stop your car so you could google the host and see who they were, where they came from, what kind of contract they had and try and find a picture to see what they looked like?  I don't think so.  Why do you expect more from, and about her?

If you find the show interesting, then listen and enjoy it. If you don't, then change the channel.

I don't get the relevance of trying to solve the "mystery".

Best reply, I could not have put it in better words.

[popple]

Happy New Year Little Hedgehog!

I HOPE SO! You too PBS <3 

[Value Of Pi]

If you were driving your car, turning the dial on the radio and found a talk show host that you thought was worth listening to, would you stop your car so you could google the host and see who they were, where they came from, what kind of contract they had and try and find a picture to see what they looked like?  I don't think so.  Why do you expect more from, and about her?

If you find the show interesting, then listen and enjoy it. If you don't, then change the channel.

I don't get the relevance of trying to solve the "mystery".

I don't care about the mystery, whatever the story actually is, except as it relates to Art's future status. If people here keep talking about Art's plans, which is likely, and some of them appear to have some inside information that might relate to those plans, I'm going to ask the obvious questions. If people don't claim to have firsthand info on the principals, and it's all speculation about Art and/or Heather and/or MITD, then no reason to ask unanswerable questions about them or the show. It actually makes perfect sense.

[SredniVashtar]

If you were driving your car, turning the dial on the radio and found a talk show host that you thought was worth listening to, would you stop your car so you could google the host and see who they were, where they came from, what kind of contract they had and try and find a picture to see what they looked like?  I don't think so.  Why do you expect more from, and about her?

If you find the show interesting, then listen and enjoy it. If you don't, then change the channel.

I don't get the relevance of trying to solve the "mystery".

She's not a newsreader, where one's identity is irrelevant. Like it or not, that job requires you to be a radio 'personality', not simply a voice. Your experiences, attitudes, background enhance the listening experience, especially in that particular niche of broadcasting. Art made that work for him, as do most major radio figures that I can think of. If Heather plays the 'woman of mystery' card she won't be able to promote the show effectively: she can't do interviews, because she's unwilling to tell the interviewer anything interesting, and she loses out on new potential audiences who will not be given a chance to know anything about her. If she doesn't want to do it then that's fine, but she will always be small-time, even if it lasts very long, which is unlikely.

[Ciardelo]

I don't care about the mystery, whatever the story actually is, except as it relates to Art's future status. If people here keep talking about Art's plans, which is likely, and some of them appear to have some inside information that might relate to those plans, I'm going to ask the obvious questions. If people don't claim to have firsthand info on the principals, and it's all speculation about Art and/or Heather and/or MITD, then no reason to ask unanswerable questions about them or the show. It actually makes perfect sense.

[PB the Deplorable]

Once a year, on New Year's Eve..

[phrodo]

Once a year, on New Year's Eve..

Halloween was a couple of months ago. Try to keep up.

[Robert]

She's not a newsreader, where one's identity is irrelevant. Like it or not, that job requires you to be a radio 'personality', not simply a voice. Your experiences, attitudes, background enhance the listening experience, especially in that particular niche of broadcasting. Art made that work for him, as do most major radio figures that I can think of. If Heather plays the 'woman of mystery' card she won't be able to promote the show effectively: she can't do interviews, because she's unwilling to tell the interviewer anything interesting, and she loses out on new potential audiences who will not be given a chance to know anything about her.

Ask the audience of radio interviewer Nardwuar the Human Serviette if their experience suffered by not knowing his real name.  I didn't until now.

[Value Of Pi]

The photo captures the feeling, I think. Let's take a moment to remind ourselves that the paramount wish of everyone here (if I may be so bold) is to be able to turn on our radio devices and listen to a great paranormal-related, AB-type radio show hosted by a terrific radio host, preferably Art Bell himself. Sometimes, one aspect or another of that noble wish seems to get lost in the weeds.

[PING]

Is that from Dubai?

Too soon?

[munbeam666]

From Art's FB Page
Art Bell
1 hr ·
Happy New Year from
The High Desert!
Art Airyn Asia

[SredniVashtar]

Ask the audience of radio interviewer Nardwuar the Human Serviette if their experience suffered by not knowing his real name.  I didn't until now.

Jeez, are you really comparing the two cases? One is doing schtick, the other is trying to do a straight radio show. I don't imagine many people assumed that was his real name, although perhaps you did and were combing the phone directories to call the Serviette family and ask to speak to Nardwuar. I don't imagine his identity was in any sense a secret.

[PING]

She's not a newsreader, where one's identity is irrelevant. Like it or not, that job requires you to be a radio 'personality', not simply a voice. Your experiences, attitudes, background enhance the listening experience, especially in that particular niche of broadcasting. Art made that work for him, as do most major radio figures that I can think of. If Heather plays the 'woman of mystery' card she won't be able to promote the show effectively: she can't do interviews, because she's unwilling to tell the interviewer anything interesting, and she loses out on new potential audiences who will not be given a chance to know anything about her. If she doesn't want to do it then that's fine, but she will always be small-time, even if it lasts very long, which is unlikely.

Art also has a voice that is perfect for the spooky genre. His laugh sometimes reminds me of the Vincent Price laugh in Thriller.

Art & Rush Limbaugh (love him or hate him, he's a great broadcaster) have one thing in common. They both talk about, from a very early age, having a love for radio/broadcasting. They took that and through trial & error found success by developing genres that were different but were of great interest to them, Rush with politics & Art with the woo-woo. They also talked about their "off air" lives as well, which developed a deeper bond with the audience as it let them see them as more than just voices, but as people.

I think Heather did a great job as producer. I've heard other shows where the producers or other behind the scenes folks tried being on air. It was almost invariably a trainwreck because it's not their strength. I'm not saying I'd do any better than she's doing. I have a face for radio & a voice that's best suited for being a mime. Hat's off to her for trying when asked.

I'll listen to 16 year old Art streams (& frequently do) over fresh Noory shows anytime.

Happy New Year to most of you vaguely loveable fuckers, except a few 4channers & bitter trolls with WAY too much time on their hands.

Praise MV!

[Robert]

Jeez, are you really comparing the two cases? One is doing schtick, the other is trying to do a straight radio show.

So what?  Why doesn't the same principle apply?

I don't imagine many people assumed that was his real name, although perhaps you did and were combing the phone directories to call the Serviette family and ask to speak to Nardwuar. I don't imagine his identity was in any sense a secret.

Why doesn't the principle apply anyway?  Do people need to know anything about the interviewer other than what they hear on the interview show?

(I discount the acc't in Wikipedia as to why he took that name.  If you ever heard his interviews, he's like a serviette, soaking up all the abuse.)

Clay Pigeon does a lot of MITS/WITS radio interviews & doesn't like his real name used either.  Usually he doesn't even tell his interviewees his performing name.  And he does very, very straight interviews.  Very effectively too.

[Value Of Pi]

Art also has a voice that is perfect for the spooky genre. His laugh sometimes reminds me of the Vincent Price laugh in Thriller.

Art & Rush Limbaugh (love him or hate him, he's a great broadcaster) have one thing in common. They both talk about, from a very early age, having a love for radio/broadcasting. They took that and through trial & error found success by developing genres that were different but were of great interest to them, Rush with politics & Art with the woo-woo. They also talked about their "off air" lives as well, which developed a deeper bond with the audience as it let them see them as more than just voices, but as people.

I think Heather did a great job as producer. I've heard other shows where the producers or other behind the scenes folks tried being on air. It was almost invariably a trainwreck because it's not their strength. I'm not saying I'd do any better than she's doing. I have a face for radio & a voice that's best suited for being a mime. Hat's off to her for trying when asked.

I'll listen to 16 year old Art streams (& frequently do) over fresh Noory shows anytime.

Happy New Year to most of you vaguely loveable fuckers, except a few 4channers & bitter trolls with WAY too much time on their hands.

Praise MV!

No need to be preemptively defensive about not saying something that nobody has any business thinking you might have said or meant. In other words, relax and have a happy New Year.

[SredniVashtar]

So what?  Why doesn't the same principle apply?Why doesn't the principle apply anyway?  Do people need to know anything about the interviewer other than what they hear on the interview show?

(I discount the acc't in Wikipedia as to why he took that name.  If you ever heard his interviews, he's like a serviette, soaking up all the abuse.)

Clay Pigeon does a lot of MITS/WITS radio interviews & doesn't like his real name used either.  Usually he doesn't even tell his interviewees his performing name.  And he does very, very straight interviews.  Very effectively too.

Does she 'need' to do it? No. But the examples you have given me are of people I haven't had a clue even existed until now, so what does that tell you? If she wants to do a show that is destined to remain small and insignificant then she should carry on as she is doing. Nobody will know she exists after a while. If you want to make a go of something you have to do more than simply your job. Do you think actors or authors like promoting themselves? No, but they have to do it if they are going to get anywhere. It doesn't enhance the quality of the product, but they need to do it anyway.

[boxman]

Just an idea..

I'm not saying DP is actually Art, but that would be one interesting way to get the "troops" to pull together. Most of us have been so, um.. distracted?.. by DP's posts, that we've forgotten to beat our usual horses to death.  :

I bet it is MV riling up us to keep activity up so he can cash in on those ads/page views ;P

[Robert]

Does she 'need' to do it? No. But the examples you have given me are of people I haven't had a clue even existed until now, so what does that tell you? If she wants to do a show that is destined to remain small and insignificant then she should carry on as she is doing. Nobody will know she exists after a while. If you want to make a go of something you have to do more than simply your job. Do you think actors or authors like promoting themselves? No, but they have to do it if they are going to get anywhere. It doesn't enhance the quality of the product, but they need to do it anyway.

I don't think she expects this to remain her regular job any more than WFMU jocks expect to make $ at it.

[Value Of Pi]

I don't think she expects this to remain her regular job any more than WFMU jocks expect to make $ at it.

The problem is, this is exactly what she projects. Her attitude towards the chair she's sitting in is probably one of the most confusing things for listeners. How is her being the host, even temporarily, supposed to make any sense when she keeps repeating "I don't really want to be here but here I am"?

Yes, the stalker, okay. It still sounds beaucoup weird and disconcerting, like she's not that interested in doing this for real. Forget the delicate situation, it sounds all wrong, like she's setting a course for failure. Which, of course, contrasts greatly with the happy talk about upcoming shows and guests.

Meanwhile, if I do listen, even a little, I'm listening for any indication of Art doing a show. Pretty hard to know which way is up from the way she talks.