Art Bell

[WOTR]

Either way, I really hope that somebody with a modicum of success will post here.  Heather, RCH, Art or even Dave. 

I informed Chefist that "Jeb Will Fix It" so he's good on that.

Thank yew!!!  I was starting to get antsy with Art quitting BG and no posts from Dave in a year.  You have a podcast or two and own a board getting quite a few views, right?  Would you consider yourself to have obtained a modicum of success?  If so, would you please acknowledge us who are the "unwashed masses"?

Thanks.

[Autistic Star Children]

In a bit of good news, and not Art Bell related so my apologies -

I've been informed we have confirmed a sixth player for tomorrow night's Risk game. Shit's going down. First time in the three years I've been trying this that we've had a full game.

back to your normally scheduled Art Bell thread talk

[MV/Liberace!]

Would you consider yourself to have obtained a modicum of success?

Some day, with lots of hard work and a little luck, you could have an Art Bell forum just like this.

[yoego]

seems to me having the tunein splash page say art bell at 9 is false advertising
add deceptive marketing to his fault list
bet they fix it now.

[Value Of Pi]

Our Forefathers grasped a concept also, that dealt with knee jerk responses. 
I really don't think you grasp what a RIGHT is, as you seem to be confusing it with PRIVILEGE... You and your friend may not be as bright as you believe.
Keep cranking away.



http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

Virtually all rights in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are limited rights, not absolute rights. The courts and the USSC are constantly interpreting those rights and their limits, especially where they appear to conflict with each other. Go to school, learn something, then come back and talk to me. School's out for tonight.

[WOTR]

Our Forefathers grasped a concept also, that dealt with knee jerk responses. 
I really don't think you grasp what a RIGHT is, as you seem to be confusing it with PRIVILEGE... You and your friend may not be as bright as you believe.
Keep cranking away.

The major problem with your evidence is that it is just written words.  I will not disagree that these are "rights", but it makes you start to question what a right is, and when something becomes a right and how fragile that may be.

If a couple of hundred fat, rich men (and women) in Washington get together tomorrow and put their pen to paper taking away the right of free speech, does it cease to exist?

I somewhat worry when I see somebody use written laws and the constitution to justify their position that something is a right because of how easily it can (apparently) be taken away.  (For fun, look at the Japanese experience during WWII).  Before the 13th amendment, were African Americans really only 3/5 of a person because that was what was written on paper?

Anyhow, I do not fundamentally disagree with your position that free speech is a right... But I do disagree on the reasons that it is such.

[WOTR]

Some day, with lots of hard work and a little luck, you could have an Art Bell forum just like this.

I shall endeavor to scrape together the funds to purchase a domain name... though it looks like georgenoorysucks.com has already been taken.

[Catsmile]

Virtually all rights in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are limited rights, not absolute rights. The courts and the USSC are constantly interpreting those rights and their limits, especially where they appear to conflict with each other. Go to school, learn something, then come back and talk to me. School's out for tonight.

Where did I say they were absolute? Thatz your knee jerk straw man concoction, attempting to squelch some on this forum, who apparently have you grabbing your pearls in faux indignation. You don't need school to see through your transparent motives.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!! 

[Value Of Pi]

Where did I say they were absolute? Thatz your knee jerk straw man concoction, attempting to squelch some on this forum, who apparently have you grabbing your pearls in faux indignation. You don't need school to see through your transparent motives.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!! 

Listen friend, you didn't comprehend my original post, but you chose to respond to me anyway. You didn't comprehend my explanation, or the exchange I had with slippingaway, if you read that, but you insist on more nonsensical, snappy comebacks. If you don't understand the point in question, don't try to debate it. And don't resort to insults. Just back away and go about your business. This topic is not for you.

[nooryisawesome]

six week tenure posted this:

12-30 UPDATE: Due to music licensing fees in 2016, Midnight in the Desert with Heather Wade will run in a coveted spot on www.blogtalkradio.com. More information to follow.

â€" Keith Rowland

Sounds like DMDN might be done? I have no idea what this means.

[paladin1991]

six week tenure posted this:
Sounds like DMDN might be done? I have no idea what this means.

Huh, quick look at blogtalk and I didn't see anything.

[Dateline]

Art's New Year Resolution for 2016:  I am going to quit 2016. 

[boxman]

So I am gone for like a month and everything has turned to shit? Art has retired yet again and network looks to be no more...

[paladin1991]

So I am gone for like a month and everything has turned to shit? Art has retired yet again and network looks to be no more...

Well shit Boxman.  Maybe if you had been a little more supportive and been around.  You've been gone like a month and you act surprised that the place has been trashed?

This is why we can't have nice things.

[boxman]

Well shit Boxman.  Maybe if you had been a little more supportive and been around.  You've been gone like a month and you act surprised that the place has been trashed?

This is why we can't have nice things.

Doubt that would have changed anything ;P
And kind of hard when you are in Europe and have exact opposite sleep cycle of most people here.

What bothers me most about this shit is that he again gave the show to someone who is clearly not capable of coming even close to what he was. Why the fuck would he do that after the mistake he did with George Noory and swearing to never repeat it?

[paladin1991]

Doubt that would have changed anything ;P
And kind of hard when you are in Europe and have exact opposite sleep cycle of most people here.

In IslamoEuropa?  Eeeeesh. 

[Catsmile]

The major problem with your evidence is that it is just written words.  I will not disagree that these are "rights", but it makes you start to question what a right is, and when something becomes a right and how fragile that may be.

If a couple of hundred fat, rich men (and women) in Washington get together tomorrow and put their pen to paper taking away the right of free speech, does it cease to exist?

I somewhat worry when I see somebody use written laws and the constitution to justify their position that something is a right because of how easily it can (apparently) be taken away.  (For fun, look at the Japanese experience during WWII).  Before the 13th amendment, were African Americans really only 3/5 of a person because that was what was written on paper?

Anyhow, I do not fundamentally disagree with your position that free speech is a right... But I do disagree on the reasons that it is such.

It's not my evidence it's what the USA was founded upon. And they are just words, and they have been broken. However that is a very different topic, bet suited for the Pollyticks board. If the people disagree with those words they need to add an amendment.

I may not agree with what some members have posted on BellGab. At the same time I have not seen anything posted against the TOS, or breaking any speech laws in the USA. If Art feels differently he has the means to deal with it legally. Which will be an uphill battle all the way, most likely.

Art wanting/seeking members to dox another member here so things can be "taken care of one way or another" was poor form at best, verging on a real life threat of harm, at worst. That had me clutching my pearls more than anything posted on this thread in weeks. If Art deals with people the same way in real life... Well, I could see why many people would be possible "stalkers and terrorist" around his home town/ neighborhood.   

I may not agree with an idea or message, but it is every persons right to express ideas freely without fear of being unduly prosecuted.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pZUQv8mjQ

[Catsmile]

Listen friend, you didn't comprehend my original post, but you chose to respond to me anyway. You didn't comprehend my explanation, or the exchange I had with slippingaway, if you read that, but you insist on more nonsensical, snappy comebacks. If you don't understand the point in question, don't try to debate it. And don't resort to insults. Just back away and go about your business. This topic is not for you.

You don't comprehend Rights, Privileges, and the Law. So... you got nothing. I see. Feel free to post often.

[Lt.Uhura]

Here are the new music royalty rates and terms for online streaming.

http://www.loc.gov/crb/web-iv/amended-web-iv-terms.pdf


The current state of music licensing is a disaster.  Another one bites the dust.

http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/another-online-music-disaster-live-365-has-laid-off-just-about-everyone-and-has-left-their-offices/

[malachi.martini]

That is a beautifully turned phrase.  You are a rich man to be casting such pearls here.

[Jesus Undercarriage]

In IslamoEuropa?  Eeeeesh.

Its way too early for such ignorant bigotry here in Europe, please save it til later, thanks.

[WOTR]

It's not my evidence it's what the USA was founded upon. And they are just words, and they have been broken. However that is a very different topic, bet suited for the Pollyticks board. If the people disagree with those words they need to add an amendment.

It probably is best suited to politics- but this thread is already a train wreck...

I suppose I ask what "makes a right a right" because I actually did head through the museum of human rights when I was in Winnipeg.  Interestingly, even they never dare to actually answer that question. 

I guess that my point was simply that words on paper make a nice starting point- give a nice idea of what a society does (or at least wants to) believe at a given point in time.  However, the idea of an actual right should go beyond simply saying that because the constitution says I have a certain right, I do...

It also raises the question of Basic human right vs. constitutionally guaranteed right.  Perhaps that paper and laws are all that you can hold onto when considering your constitutionally guaranteed rights- but the basic rights should run much deeper...And I suppose that I would at least like to believe that the right to free speech falls into the "basic" human rights category where it should be extended to all world citizens regardless of what their governments decree or what paper a dictator or king happens to sign in some little banana republic.

That's it.  Enough thinking and time for slumber.  G'night.

[paladin1991]

Its way too early for such ignorant bigotry here in Europe, please save it til later, thanks.

After breakfast?

[Catsmile]

It probably is best suited to politics- but this thread is already a train wreck...

I suppose I ask what "makes a right a right" because I actually did head through the museum of human rights when I was in Winnipeg.  Interestingly, even they never dare to actually answer that question. 

I guess that my point was simply that words on paper make a nice starting point- give a nice idea of what a society does (or at least wants to) believe at a given point in time.  However, the idea of an actual right should go beyond simply saying that because the constitution says I have a certain right, I do...

It also raises the question of Basic human right vs. constitutionally guaranteed right.  Perhaps that paper and laws are all that you can hold onto when considering your constitutionally guaranteed rights- but the basic rights should run much deeper...And I suppose that I would at least like to believe that the right to free speech falls into the "basic" human rights category where it should be extended to all world citizens regardless of what their governments decree or what paper a dictator or king happens to sign in some little banana republic.

That's it.  Enough thinking and time for slumber.  G'night.

All of that sounds good to me.

Vote WOTR 2016!

[SciFiAuthor]

six week tenure posted this:
Sounds like DMDN might be done? I have no idea what this means.

Needs corroboration, don't trust the source.

[BellBoy]

Well at least here I am among friends. The stress of reading all day long about the insane new Digital music rules is enough to push anybody over the edge. I really want to get this all going but not if it is a deal that is doomed to fail for all. It's got to have the bases covered because the money I do have saved is for my Family and I can not take risks with it just to satisfy my wanting to do a show. Trust me when I say the Lawsuits over music are flying like Hell Fire's over Yemen.

I understand that some of you say who cares about the music, but it is part of the magic, not all of it of course but a part of it none the less. I told Keith to talk with them and I didn't want to hear about it till he had some kind of resolution but I can not even hold to that. I think I am a A+ personality and can not change that, I think I pretty much worry everything to death, no doubt including my own. So, should I pass into that higher antenna location in the sky remember I was here on Bell Gabb. Also please get the EVP folk's on minus Jimmy and I will try and tell you how hot it really is there. (At least I could cook Pizza rolls by just holding them up)

Art

Ok I have a question for the group, of course we will begin with a live stream as promised BUT if it gets to big to fast we will be faced with a impossible situation perhaps very quickly, I refer to our music which I must have. There are two possible solutions both are tough. If we get past a point where about 70,000 are listening live and not enough people choose to order the Podcast we can either limit Bandwidth which will piss people off or start charging everybody who wants to listen five bucks a Month unless we do one of those things we will go broke pretty quickly. Opinions please???

Could be a moot point if we start small, nobody knows.

Art

It's all about the music, I don't want to get into this debate again but if shows like mine are going to make the jump to the "new media" there has to be a way to survive the cost of the music. It is in the music industry's interest to make it so, if not they shoot themselves in the foot, However History is full of examples of self inflicted financial suicide so don't rule it out.

Art

Ok, here is a report, of course I did not post a message till mid day or so but thus far about 575 have joined for the Podcast, not bad for the first day! Of course as we near July 20th we hope that number will grow and I am sure it will. I want to thank those of you who have put up your five bucks or better.

The deal is this, nobody knows what will happen July 20th, and I mean nobody. Of course the Blitz will help a great deal. Again if we start small it's fine by me. We will also have commercial content as you know as well as a couple of suprise things that you guy's are gonna love which I just can't spill the beans on.

We are hoping against hope that we can at least make this a break even or better operation. As long as the music license people don't hit us with a hammer at the end of the Year we should be ok. At least at this point it looks like we will meet our bandwidth costs.

We have truly put our blood and guts as well as our own money into this venture so knock on wood for us. Again I want to thank the whole bunch of you who have given so much support.

Art

six week tenure posted this:

    12-30 UPDATE: Due to music licensing fees in 2016, Midnight in the Desert with Heather Wade will run in a coveted spot on www.blogtalkradio.com. More information to follow.

    â€" Keith Rowland

Sounds like DMDN might be done? I have no idea what this means.

Looks like we've found Art's "Stalker"...

[nooryisawesome]

Needs corroboration, don't trust the source.

I think I believe Sixweektenure. But I am curious as to where he received the information. I checked twitter and found nothing.

Can someone check Facebook, I don't have an account.

[norland2424]

I think I believe Sixweektenure. But I am curious as to where he received the information. I checked twitter and found nothing.

Can someone check Facebook, I don't have an account.

its a fake, i cant find it on any website, only on bellgab

[trostol]

I think I believe Sixweektenure. But I am curious as to where he received the information. I checked twitter and found nothing.

Can someone check Facebook, I don't have an account.

nothign there

[SciFiAuthor]

I think I believe Sixweektenure.

Don't. Needs corroboration.