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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

Marc.Knight

There are mounting clues that Art might return to radio, or even displace the King of Slur.  We will be watching!



haloedorchid

I really hope the part about replacing Ian Punnett with Whitley Strieber is not true.



Eddie Coyle

Alright, I hate to be the skunk in the garden...really I do.

My "sources"(common sense and reality) tell me that MAYBE Art will do a podcast. To expect anything more than that,I believe,is false optimism run amok. I mean this business of him coming back full-time is so unrealistic and is pure fantasy,IMO. First off, what company would sign a serial abdicator who will be 66 in June? Hate to break the news,but Art's brand has diminished greatly due to C2C's decline and his own inconsistent habits. It's not 1998,his stock has dropped-nostalgia may cloud the view of some. I've come to see Art as akin to a pro athlete. Fans take the losses harder than the player does. Many of you here care FAR MORE about C2C than Art does.

  Listen I hope I'm wrong...but I doubt he's coming back to C2C in ANY form.  And Whitley needs his Haldol upped. That trailer is really...odd.

YNOT

And our emotional roller coaster goes back up the hill....It seems that Art times his few communications infrequently, yet just enough to keep people from wandering off...

Its interesting to observe how his cryptic comment about a change in the works causes us to all to speculate on a potential return so much....Of course I hope that's the case.

Realistically though, Art may be alluding to something unrelated.  Some idle speculation.

1) Perhaps the Bells are considering moving back stateside? Doesn't mean he'll do a show,
    although he could start a local broadcast on KNYE. They stream...

2) Perhaps Asia may have a new sibling on the way?...Doesn't mean he'll do a show,
    although he would probably want to be stateside for the birth so the baby would be natural born.

OK, I tried to keep it real, but my fingers keep veering me to favorable scenarios...

BTW, I just checked whois to see if  Art still owns artbell.com. Apparently he still does:



Registrant:
Bell, Art
Art Bell
PO Box 4755
Pahrump, NV 89041-4755
US

Domain Name: ARTBELL.COM


He could use that were he to start his own show...
All he would need is streaming capabilities and some phone lines...
It wouldn't be radio but it would be cheaper ... yet another naive hope...

P.S. Thanks all for welcoming me. 

Marc.Knight

Quote from: YNOT on March 19, 2011, 11:28:18 AM
And our emotional roller coaster goes back up the hill....It seems that Art times his few communications infrequently, yet just enough to keep people from wandering off...

Its interesting to observe how his cryptic comment about a change in the works causes us to all to speculate on a potential return so much....Of course I hope that's the case.

Realistically though, Art may be alluding to something unrelated.  Some idle speculation.

1) Perhaps the Bells are considering moving back stateside? Doesn't mean he'll do a show,
    although he could start a local broadcast on KNYE. They stream...

2) Perhaps Asia may have a new sibling on the way?...Doesn't mean he'll do a show,
    although he would probably want to be stateside for the birth so the baby would be natural born.

OK, I tried to keep it real, but my fingers keep veering me to favorable scenarios...

BTW, I just checked whois to see if  Art still owns artbell.com. Apparently he still does:



Registrant:
Bell, Art
Art Bell
PO Box 4755
Pahrump, NV 89041-4755
US

Domain Name: ARTBELL.COM


He could use that were he to start his own show...
All he would need is streaming capabilities and some phone lines...
It wouldn't be radio but it would be cheaper ... yet another naive hope...

P.S. Thanks all for welcoming me.




I understand the speculation about a podcast, but Art must regularly get lucrative offers from C2C competitors to return to the airwaves.  Even if he left after a few years, his relationship with that company would catapult them into the major leagues of broadcasting.  I have a hunch that if Art is going to do something on the air for a few years it will have to be financially worth it for him.

Fly By Night

I don't see him coming back full time, but I do see him doing weekends on C2C if they dumped a bunch of money on his lap AND gave him back lines that are not screened, along with some additional allowances for Art to be himself again. Going back to C2C would mean not having to start up a whole new show, and C2C IS HIS creation.

Even if he only does weekends this song will again have meaning

http://www.myspace.com/seanhoganfans/music/songs/conspiracy-radio-w-art-bell-26678915

YNOT

Speaking of songs...

How many here have made their own mix CD's of AB bumper music?

I know I have.  Nothing like driving  on a Saturday evening in the summer with "Driver's Seat" blaring.

Whenever I'd hear a song on the radio it would get me excited, thinking about how the next AB show would be...
now I just get melancholic...

Art's gotta feel the same way.  If I were him I would be getting pretty antsy being away from one of my biggest passions.  And while HAM is a fix... what can compare to an audience of millions?

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: YNOT on March 19, 2011, 02:47:52 PM


Art's gotta feel the same way.  If I were him I would be getting pretty antsy being away from one of my biggest passions.  And while HAM is a fix... what can compare to an audience of millions?

   I doubt he's antsy at all. Retirement number 3 was when I realized he didn't give a damn about us or the show. I should have realized that after the second time he bailed. His cryptic messages are him toying with his audience...again.

Fly By Night

I have certainly made several versions of mixed CD's with AB Bumper music. Not just because he likes the songs, but because they are just plain good tunes.

As for Art toying with us, maybe. His personality is one of a person who can abandon his first two kids, and a person who can get remarried a few months after his wife died. He is an eccentric guy, but that's what makes him so great at what he does.

It's also true that Art has some narcissism about him, and narcissistic people don't do well watching people spoliate their creations. Art most likely would put his will to right a wrong done to his "baby" above all else. It's also important to remember that he never said he was retiring to his audience. It was Snoory and Knapp who told us that he was no longer a part of C2C. All these point to a possible return

I guess we will all just wait and see.  I'll just spend more time reading this blog and watching NCAA basketball.

txs

Quote from: YNOT on March 18, 2011, 05:48:54 AM
Hi all,
     First post here. I've been following this thread and some on fantastic forums since Art split.
I've been a staunch AB fan since September 1997 when I first heard. From then on my homepage was
www.artbell.com...oh the good ole days...

Anyways, this thread has been very entertaining as well as a bit of balm for the emotional void we are experiencing. Its nearly impossible to explain to "outsiders" why a radio personality leaving can be so devastating. But really Art Bell has been so much more than just a voice over the airwaves. Many here have already expressed such sentiments so I won't bother. 
 
Two things I wanted to post.

1) Thanks for this forum. I'm not much of a forum poster as a rule, but I felt it was time for a simple Thanks to this forum. It's like a piece of flotsam after a shipwreck and we're rats stuck on it...

2) I was just browsing the Fantastic forum and wanted to relay this INTERESTING reply from Art:
dated 3/18 at 2:22am


Hi there,

We are not glowing here, more radiation is on the way to North America than here so all is well.

There may be a change in the works, more on that as it unfolds

The Bells are all well and Asia finished her first year of school
today with a show put on by the school.

Art, Airyn & Asia



Gee, I hate to be a party pooper, but when I read Art's post, all I got from that line about change was that he was referring back to his previous remark about radioactivity - like "we are sitting ok right now as far as the radioactivity not coming our way, but that could all change in the wink of an eye, we could start getting blasted with it and have to suddenly depart from here" - something on that theme.

I just don't HEAR what you all are hearing in it!  He just seems to be basically "checking in" over this big threat, with an eye to reassuring a lot of folks who HE KNOWS would be wondering and worrying about him and his family, just as they always have, and always will. That is the feeling I get (with my 2nd-rate witch's powers of esp...)

But I would SO love to be wrong! I sure won't shut out the possibility!  I just don't see Art as coy like that. He always seemed very above-board to me, that is one of the main things I loved about him - NO B.S. No cute games.  If anything, he fearlessly OVERSHARED stuff I personally would NEVER have talked about over the radio!  Like his whole courtship thing with his new wife, and other personal things.  He just didn't really give a damn what anyone thought about what he said, and the other side of that was that, he KNEW he had nothing to hide or be ashamed of. And at his stage of life/career/maturity, he didn't feel the need to defend of justify whatever he thought or said.  That is why I liked him.  When you lie, or pretend to positions that you aren't sincere about, it sets up a whole web of twisted relationships with other people, your career, your soul.  Art didn't have to worry about any of that. He was comfortable in his own skin and mind. Not that he was a know-it-all or always thought he was right.  He would always SAY when he just didn't know something. He didn't mind not having answers to everything (unlike almost everyone else in public life nowadays). He was comfortable leaving things unanswered when a situation called for it.

The long way around, of saying I don't think he was referring to a subject totally different than the main reason he penned that post - the nuclear crisis and his and his family's safety (or lack of it), because he KNOWS people care about him, and he still does care about us.

I think if he had anything to impart about any possibility of coming back to public life, he would just skip the games and come right out and SAY whatever he could about it, once he had something concrete that he could say.  If things were in the planning stages, or if he was bound to silence until things firmed up, he would still SAY WHAT HE COULD, or say that he COULDN'T SAY MORE, but he still would say WHAT HE COULD.  That would just be much more Art's way.  I don't think he really knows how to be coy. He built his whole DEAL on being out front and level with people.

But again, I do still hope...

But it was very reassuring that he IS keeping in touch in some way.... what is that fabulous forum? I have to google it... I have been searching for some kind of ham radio site (or some kind of amateur radio) where he might be active.  Like everyone, just sniffing around for CRUMBS as to what he is up to, and how he is doing.  I miss him terribly.  I can't really stomach Noory either.  Punnett is good and Knapp is pretty good, but overall, I just can't stick with Coast at all anymore.  Just the 24/7 ArtBell from Coastgab... it is a real treat and I am very thankful for it.


Marc.Knight

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 19, 2011, 02:52:28 PM
   I doubt he's antsy at all. Retirement number 3 was when I realized he didn't give a damn about us or the show. I should have realized that after the second time he bailed. His cryptic messages are him toying with his audience...again.


This is so true.  What the heck is the point of these cryptic messages?  He is saying something while saying nothing.  At this point it is better for him to say nothing and wait until he is ready to give concrete information. 

Fly By Night

Listen to Art's old shows. He was ALWAYS yapping about something big that was in the works that he could not talk about, but would in a future show. He did it about getting married again, he did it about moving over seas, he did it about Art's parts, he did it about some dead bigfoot and on and on. Art loves to be a showman. It's all part of the Bell experience to make people sit around and think about what his next move is. Again, he is a narcissist. Either way...he has us all talking about him, does he not?

aldousburbank

Well for that matter, can anybody vouch for the chain of evidence linking these notes to the big Artemis himself?  All I'm saying is that there are several wordsmiths on this forum who know Art's persona well enough to  make a decent facsimile, and possibly obfuscate IP address footprints.  And then that makes me think of other stuff but I don't want to get all Richard C Hoaglandy about it.

Marc.Knight

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 19, 2011, 05:55:50 PM
Well for that matter, can anybody vouch for the chain of evidence linking these notes to the big Artemis himself?  All I'm saying is that there are several wordsmiths on this forum who know Art's persona well enough to  make a decent facsimile, and possibly obfuscate IP address footprints.  And then that makes me think of other stuff but I don't want to get all Richard C Hoaglandy about it.




anything is possible.

Fly By Night

If anyone here is hijacking Art's IP to make a point, then I feel sorry for them.
I bet Art is  laughing his ass off reading these posts while drinking karkov vodka and watching Threes Company reruns

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Fly By Night on March 19, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
Listen to Art's old shows. He was ALWAYS yapping about something big that was in the works that he could not talk about, but would in a future show. He did it about getting married again, he did it about moving over seas, he did it about Art's parts, he did it about some dead bigfoot and on and on. Art loves to be a showman. It's all part of the Bell experience to make people sit around and think about what his next move is. Again, he is a narcissist. Either way...he has us all talking about him, does he not?

      All of the above is true. And I wouldn't be surprised if he reads this board. Hell,this place is far more interesting than Shirleypal's! He may be put off by the lack of sycophants here...

      The cryptic messages feed his healthy ego. He, like every talk show host, pumps up every little thing they do,it's in their nature. So even when there's NOTHING(that we know of) he projects it as something.Those cryptic messages have fueled rampant speculation by some. And to me, unnamed "sources" =figments of an overactive imagination.

aldousburbank

Quote from: Marc Knight on March 19, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
anything is possible.

Hey that's funny!  Please, somebody email Hoagland and get his version of what Art's cryptic messages really mean.  I'll get out my slide rule, lots o' coffee, and my Masonic Rites For Dummies book so we can figure out what the hell he's saying after he gives us the true inside dope.

aquagoat

txs ---- thank you!  Boy, I know we are ever eager to get The Show back on the road --- but good golly miss molly, introduce the cart to the horse so they can line up properly.

Art's reference to changes that may come are merely his comment on the radition exposure his area of the globe is facing.  It follows the previous sentence and makes all the sense in the world that commenting on the Nuclear issues in Japan would be high on his mind.

C'mon folks, our Late Nite Hero (LNH) is well within a danger zone for radiation exposure should the winds shift and all we can think of is "oh boy oh boy, Art is REALLY coming back, he's gonna punch out Noory and kick corperate ass at Clear Inc,. and Wiley Streiber is shilling a new book so it all makes sense, yes?"

For shame, folks. Give yerself a shake . . .

RK

FortRock

This is where Art and his Fans can have their cake and eat it too! I've been informed that practically all Coast Stations are ready to join a new network of a new Art Bell Show. The ratings are dropping like a rock, but Clear Channel would lose face big-time if George were removed as host! Here's where the contract for airing Coast at local stations comes into play. The Contract states that there are two ways local station management (including Clear Channel owned) can drop Coast. Firstly if ratings drop a certain percentage within a year, percentage number unknown by me. Secondly if the demographic listening does not fit within the market expectations of local advertisers. George Noory has failed on both catagories in the eyes of the vast majority of stations! So they can demand that Art Bell return to hosting Coast under his rules and terms, OR, they can walk without warning to an independent new Art Bell Show with a new Production Team in charge! KEX 1190 at 50KW out of Portland is ready to walk! Art has been offered total control of the Production Rules of the new show, OR Coast under the same terms, with a HUGE financial inducement! Here's where things get REALLY BAD for George Noory! Do you remember his talk of a new Coast Production Studio in the Hilo, Hawaii area? Well guess who REALLY owns that studio?.........If you guessed Art Bell, well your right! Art, and Art alone owns the studio AND the land it sits on! That land was bought back in the 1990's by Art and Ramona to be the Headquarters of a satellite-delivered radio network aimed at the Phillipino Immigrant Community in the USA and Canada! George Noory is cooked, Art IS returning to a 4 to 5 day per week schedule, however the show might be cut from 4 hours down to 3!

Marc.Knight

Quote from: Fort Rock on March 19, 2011, 08:55:34 PM
This is where Art and his Fans can have their cake and eat it too! I've been informed that practically all Coast Stations are ready to join a new network of a new Art Bell Show. The ratings are dropping like a rock, but Clear Channel would lose face big-time if George were removed as host! Here's where the contract for airing Coast at local stations comes into play. The Contract states that there are two ways local station management (including Clear Channel owned) can drop Coast. Firstly if ratings drop a certain percentage within a year, percentage number unknown by me. Secondly if the demographic listening does not fit within the market expectations of local advertisers. George Noory has failed on both catagories in the eyes of the vast majority of stations! So they can demand that Art Bell return to hosting Coast under his rules and terms, OR, they can walk without warning to an independent new Art Bell Show with a new Production Team in charge! KEX 1190 at 50KW out of Portland is ready to walk! Art has been offered total control of the Production Rules of the new show, OR Coast under the same terms, with a HUGE financial inducement! Here's where things get REALLY BAD for George Noory! Do you remember his talk of a new Coast Production Studio in the Hilo, Hawaii area? Well guess who REALLY owns that studio?.........If you guessed Art Bell, well your right! Art, and Art alone owns the studio AND the land it sits on! That land was bought back in the 1990's by Art and Ramona to be the Headquarters of a satellite-delivered radio network aimed at the Phillipino Immigrant Community in the USA and Canada! George Noory is cooked, Art IS returning to a 4 to 5 day per week schedule, however the show might be cut from 4 hours down to 3!




Ummmm.   If things were that dire the decision makers would not hesitate to escort Noory to the nearest exit, and hand him a one way ticket to St. Louis.  I think.

anagrammy

Fort Rock, you are offering a lapdance to a celibate here. Too good to be true!  What a wet dream this post is for this crowd!  Can I have some of what YOU"RE smoking because I like your paradigm a lot better than mine.

Seriously, my friend, I have to ask what you mean by "I've been informed"--I know you've said you have an inside source but it seems to me that your information is always timed to be gas on a fire that's going out.  No offense, but my hinky sense has me suspicious.  Did you call your informant and pump him/her for information?  Does your informant read Coast Gab and provide tantalizing positive information to the starving scrabbling horde when they seem to need it?  Did he/she call you?  Did you know each other in a past life?

Could you characterize more fully the nature of your relationship?  Is it based on sexual favors?  Money?  Drugs?  Karma? We've heard it all before on Coast, so you won't shock us/me....  La Cosa Nostra?  Illumnati?  Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergs? Tobacco Conspiracy?  Tongans? Fess up man, or I'll keep going....

(Wink)  Anagrammy

ccvortex

I can definitely envision a one, or maybe, two day a week internet stream show from Art, but little more.
As previously mentioned his is after all 66 years old.

Also, I remember Art saying or writing at some point in the recent past that he had to quit or substantially reduce his radio time to quit smoking, because he wasn't able to disassociate the two.

But as someone that has listened to C2C for nearly 20 years I too am hopeful that a *real* comeback is in the works.

HAL 9000

Quote from: anagrammy on March 19, 2011, 09:37:07 PMSeriously, my friend, I have to ask what you mean by "I've been informed"--I know you've said you have an inside source but it seems to me that your information is always timed to be gas on a fire that's going out.  No offense, but my hinky sense has me suspicious.
Quote from: ccvortex on March 19, 2011, 09:37:19 PMI can definitely envision...
I can envision a padded room and some electricity...

Eddie Coyle

The "source in Portland" or aka...Voice in head #7. The next time that dude is right will be the first time he's right...

 
But in the meantime, his "shovel ready" prognostications will persist like a festering boil. Ed Dames has a higher batting average...

   I must admit, I'm generally not a fan of fiction, but his postings are certainly "entertaining"

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: IU Jacob on March 19, 2011, 07:17:22 AM
Whitley Streiber and his wife are not exactly people I'm excited about hearing on the radio every Saturday...
amen to that, brother.  i'd just as soon sniff bleach.


MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 19, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Alright, I hate to be the skunk in the garden...really I do.

My "sources"(common sense and reality) tell me that MAYBE Art will do a podcast. To expect anything more than that,I believe,is false optimism run amok. I mean this business of him coming back full-time is so unrealistic and is pure fantasy,IMO. First off, what company would sign a serial abdicator who will be 66 in June? Hate to break the news,but Art's brand has diminished greatly due to C2C's decline and his own inconsistent habits. It's not 1998,his stock has dropped-nostalgia may cloud the view of some. I've come to see Art as akin to a pro athlete. Fans take the losses harder than the player does. Many of you here care FAR MORE about C2C than Art does.

  Listen I hope I'm wrong...but I doubt he's coming back to C2C in ANY form.  And Whitley needs his Haldol upped. That trailer is really...odd.
i'm with you.  i refer the gang to a previous post of mine.

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