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Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good


That's the spirit!

AZZERAE

Internet tough guys.

Fuck 'em.

Vladimir

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good one.

Art

Well said Art. AM broadcast radio is dying -- it is a shame, but woefully true. Folks want to listen when they have time to listen and not be tied to a broadcast schedule. TV is changing as well, with on-demand streaming gaining ground on cable and satellite. I believe it was Michio Kaku (who you've interviewed several times!) who said on your show, the development of the internet was a huge step in transforming our society into a Type 1 civilization. It's so true, Art. I know you wanna take a ride! So do we!! Good luck OM – de WW8X

jazmunda

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good one.

Art

Critics critique because they can't create.

Or in young people's parlance.


Marc.Knight

I love BellGab, but Art shouldn't take to heart the Hot Air written in this forum. 

munbeam666

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good one.

Art
Did Snorry write this?

aldousburbank

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

Dear Art,

Well said and agreed! That your ballsy temperament precedes you with some notoriety is no vice in my book. You are one of us amigo, the vaguely loveable. But I tell you this, you are preaching to a choir here of at least 50 radio dweeb asshats who like zoo orangutans at feeding time, can't wait to drown our little piss ant chat/stream on Tuesdays for Gabcast time. Mostly hoping you'll make an appearance these days, given, but what does that say? It says that not only do we represent 50,000 other primates who are that thirsty for an "old" friend's voice in the night, but that at least 50 of us would probably pay to hook up strings and Campbell's Soup cans together from Parumph to wherever- and hum our own bumper music- just for another chance to hear you from the ocean of the desert hombre...

But then again, we're clearly easily amused. Nonetheless, here's wishing you success with the hobby old man. Many of us are not so far behind and like you, still have it in us.

Good day sir!

Your longtime listener, never timed caller,

Aldous


sydtron

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 16, 2015, 05:12:58 PM
Dear Art,

Well said and agreed! That your ballsy temperament precedes you with some notoriety is no vice in my book. You are one of us amigo, the vaguely loveable. But I tell you this, you are preaching to a choir here of at least 50 radio dweeb asshats who like zoo orangutans at feeding time, can't wait to drown our little piss ant chat/stream on Tuesdays for Gabcast time. Mostly hoping you'll make an appearance these days, given, but what does that say? It says that not only do we represent 50,000 other primates who are that thirsty for an "old" friend's voice in the night, but that at least 50 of us would probably pay to hook up strings and Campbell's Soup cans together from Parumph to wherever- and hum our own bumper music- just for another chance to hear you from the ocean of the desert hombre...

But then again, we're clearly easily amused. Nonetheless, here's wishing you success with the hobby old man. Many of us are not so far behind and like you, still have it in us.

Good day sir!

Your longtime listener, never timed caller,

Aldous


I nominate all of this for the upper right.  Well said man!

aldousburbank

Quote from: sydtron on February 16, 2015, 05:17:58 PM

I nominate all of this for the upper right.  Well said man!
It's the beer talking.


ManiacMatt

Art,

Don't let the bastards get you down!  I'm looking forward to your new show.  I think your age is a benefit.  You have more experience, perspective and wisdom than the bums that give negative criticism.  Your age adds another dimension of character to your persona.  I'm of the sincere belief that age is a state of mind.  I know people in their 80's that live very active and productive lives.  Unfortunately, we live in a society that thinks that you should start feeling old when you hit your 30's.  I'm in my 40's and I'm much healthier than people 10-15 years younger than myself.  It has a tremendous amount to do with how you take care of yourself (diet, exercise) and your attitude.  Anyway, take care of yourself and lets all have several good years of a kick-ass ride with Dark Matter!

aldousburbank

Quote from: ManiacMatt on February 16, 2015, 05:42:27 PM
I'm in my 40's and I'm much healthier than people 10-15 years younger than myself.
That's what we've heard.  ;)

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good one.


Art

Art,

It's up to YOU regarding success. Are you going to have a million subscribers? Probably not. I doubt that is the reason for your return anyways. I think you want to host because you love to do so. I think at least 98% of the Bellgab posters would tune in. I will. I would really like to see how much your audience would grow with one year of consistent broadcasts.  I love you.

Sincerely,

The Fett
 

coaster

nonsense. Why are people giving Art such a hard time about his age. Noory's what? in his mid 60's? Hell my father is turning 71 and chooses to work a full time job. People who are giving you grief are jealous and worried you will damage their ratings.

Quote from: coaster on February 16, 2015, 06:06:57 PM
nonsense. Why are people giving Art such a hard time about his age. Noory's what? in his mid 60's? Hell my father is turning 71 and chooses to work a full time job. People who are giving you grief are jealous and worried you will damage their ratings.

Exactly. It's not like Art will be digging ditches in 100 degree heat.

pyewacket

Quote from: Art Bell on February 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I found this on a thread below, it is a comment from a radio guy working for a big AM station, I am not sure where:
As far as Art Bell, his words: "He's alienated his audience. If he podcasts, it will be mildly successful". His core audience is the age that may not want to deal with podcasts. The subject matter is so overcooked that there is nothing left to eat. And he's proven to be an unreliable media personality. Plus he's no a young man playing in a young man's world. He will get a bump out of the gate on popularity and then it will slide south as the newness wears off. Once it becomes evident that he doesn't get even 5000 subscribers, he will shut it down. If Art was serious about making a go of it, he would do terrestrial radio + podcast it like his main competition. Otherwise it's a hobby.

He makes some pretty good points, some not so good, my core audiance is really 8-80 Years old, so about that he is wrong. The subject matter is over cooked but the product has been slaughtered by most Chefs. He has a bias for commercial radio because that's who signs his paycheck but I have a flash for him AM radio is dying, the shares are now tiny and shrinking fast and I am sorry for that because I love Radio but the writing is on the wall. As far as how my listeners feel about me, well I've pissed off lots of people in my time, if you live long enough, so will you.

I am not a young man anymore, 70 in June but many of the best Paranormal Broadcasters in the World have been older. Lastly, if it becomes a Hobby then it will be a very good one.

Art

Hello Art!

I don't know who this radio guy is , but I have to wonder why he'd bother to comment if it's all such a lost cause. I'm from an older generation and I am learning about podcasts and internet streamed shows. I like these options far, far better than old terrestrial radio with all of its limitations.

Art, I've listened to AM radio for years and you were one of the best they had to offer. The big companies forced local shows out and really limited choice. I enjoy new, independent programs and look forward to your return with great anticipation. You've been gone from the airwaves for too long.

I hope you do come back for the love of doing a great show about the subjects that interest you. There's something to be said for us older people- we know a good show when we hear it! I've observed this across all streams of media- "newer/younger" doesn't guarantee quality, first rate performance, or any actual skills. I find quite a lot of current TV, music, books, and movies disappointing. 

As far as the meal analogy goes, I would compare most AM radio shows to pre-packaged, microwaveable meals. Your show, Art, would be like sitting down to a delicious home cooked meal made from only the best ingredients and expertly prepared by a true master chef.

Who the heck hasn't had differences with other people?!? Some in the business could be called "King of the Stupids" judging by the quality of their callers. I'm looking forward to your new show and will happily subscribe and spread the news to others. Who knows- you could shock the cr*p out of them all!  ;)

 

jazmunda

Quote from: pyewacket on February 16, 2015, 06:24:08 PM

As far as the meal analogy goes, I would compare most AM radio shows to pre-packaged, microwaveable meals. Your show, Art, would be like sitting down to a delicious home cooked meal made from only the best ingredients and expertly prepared by a true master chef.


That would make George Noory a Foie Gras. A goose that has been fattened by being force fed with feces instead of the more traditional corn.

I can't wait to get a taste of Art.

IcicleTrepan

Quote from: jazmunda on February 16, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
That would make George Noory a Foie Gras. A goose that has been fattened by being force fed with feces instead of the more traditional corn.

I can't wait to get a taste of Art.

I like the frozen dinner analogy because that makes noory's show into pizza rolls.

Daggit

Ignore the closeting haters Art.

I for one can't wait to hear you again.

Vatar

In my opinion podcasting is the perfect medium for Art.  If his back is acting up and he needs a few nights off there will be no corporate masters leaning on him and looking for to replace him.  This allows anyone to play the young mans game at his leisure.  Lets face it when we reach 70 who isn't going to want to work on his/her own terms.

I think podcasting will help the overall quality of the show as well.  No network telling him what he can and can't do, or how many commercials he has to play in an hour.  These interviews are going to be more fluid and less chopped up by commercials so no 5 mins of backpedaling every half hour.  I really liked the Sirius Darkmatter shows, there were less commercials and it made for a better experience.

Art isn't going to gain his audience back overnight but I think he'll probably have a loyal following that listens live but I think where he is going to really shine is where his shows are downloaded.  I also think that is where he is going to make the most money from this venture. I think it will be something like Marc Maron with the WTF Podcast and X number of previous shows will be free then he'll have some sort of premium system where you get high quality audio and access to the full archive and some exclusive content.

bateman

Read this, Art, not the negative B.S. AM radio doesn't have these kinds of listener numbers anymore, but podcasts sure do.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/doug-elfman/joe-rogan-s-three-hour-podcast-show-tops-11-million-monthly-downloads

QuoteRogan wins listeners (like me) by talking â€" for two to three hours per episode â€" to interviewees broadcasters often ignore: physicists describing the universe, Vegas UFC fighters, comedians, evolutionary psychologists, people devoted to shrooms, and unfamous people who have offbeat ideas.
Sound familiar?  ;)

It's getting harder to even get AM.  Most personal listening devices that offer a tuner only have FM.

albrecht

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on February 16, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
It's getting harder to even get AM.  Most personal listening devices that offer a tuner only have FM.
True but with most apps (TuneIn, iHeartRadio, etc) you can get the AM station. Also, at least in my state, a lot of the AM stations are simulcasting onto an FM frequency also. I guess for the reason you mention (more people listen to FM and many devices don't have AM band on them) and to avoid the disruptions one can get with AM at night, when they power down the station, or from interference from the Mexican stations. In any event the future is digital streaming, podcasting, even Sat radio, etc though I hope AM (and Shortwave even) still continues to exist.

someguy

Art Bell! Get all your music! It wont be the same without your music.

Play this song on your new show!


College & Electric Youth - A Real Hero (Drive Original Movie Soundtrack)

IcicleTrepan

I wonder what the odds are of JC returning on the new show :)

someguy

Art Bell will be back, he can never stay away. Facebook and shit just isn't satisfying

someguy

Art Bell has the hunger

popple

Some people focus on Art's age like it's a bad thing that will hold him back, but I just think about all his accumulated experience and knowledge 8)

Dateline

Art, you are really 45 years old (Hollywood years). 

someguy

Quote from: popple on February 16, 2015, 08:14:28 PM
Some people focus on Art's age like it's a bad thing that will hold him back, but I just think about all his accumulated experience and knowledge 8)

nobody understands that he has the hunger, and he wants it his way

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