Art Bell

[George Drooly]

They might be awesome, but we won't know until showtime.  They both look like cool ladies to me.

Not a chance. Given the subject, and their appearance, it's a given they're both total morons.

[Heather Wade]

Not a chance. Given the subject, and their appearance, it's a given they're both total morons.

How original and unique of you to judge people by their appearance. 
Never met anyone else on the planet who does that.
Fucker.

While we're at it, your avatar's face looks like a hat full of assholes. 

Wanna pick on me some more?  Get your jollies by picking on girls on the internet, tuff guy?

I'm thoroughly impressed.

Do your worst.

[WOTR]

Um, no:

That;s right... make me go look at the upcoming guest section.  I will reserve judgment on Jim Sparks (I usually am not a fan of abductee stories, but it might be alright) and the ghost buster gals.  The other two look good (Monday promises to be excellent with a chocolatier.)  It says he is a public speaking coach in addition to investigating the paranormal, so hopefully Art does not have the problems he had with John "read my book" Hogue.

I am really hoping for something good from the gals, but their bios make me want to cry (most extreme new age wishy washy spiritual people do.)
Laura Lee Mistycah, AKA Witchy Woman, is a solitary practitioner in Wicca, as well as other magickal and spiritual methods, but has recently morphed into more of a futuristic sorceress in her efforts to outwit the Dark Lords who hijacked this planet.
Ronnie Rennae Foster, also known as Angel Girl... Receiving her insights and inspiration from the Angelic Realm, Ronnie is a teacher, empath, intuitive counselor, medium, and a professional, international Ghost Buster.

At least Ronnie might have some interesting stories being certified as an EMT and volunteering at a hospice.  I hold out hope, but anybody who uses "the stone of Truth and Justice" in their daily lives sets off alarm bells...

[George Drooly]

How original and unique of you to judge people by their appearance. 
Never met anyone else on the planet who does that.
Fucker.

While we're at it, your avatar's face looks like a hat full of assholes. 

Wanna pick on me some more?  Get your jollies by picking on girls on the internet, tuff guy?

I'm thoroughly impressed.

Do your worst.

Do you have comprehension problems or a vainglorious persecution complex? I made no attack on you, crybaby.

As for my avatar -- he's celebrity, not me, so I couldn't care less nor am I in the least affected by what you think or say about him.

Finally, as for the bimbos pictured above and scheduled as guests on Art's show, I stand by what I said. The "paranormal community" is rampant with just their type: middle-aged women who don ridiculous tent-like drapery, awful clunky turquoise jewelry, sport wretched hairstyles, and spout the most inane horseshit in breathy menopausal voices. Noory has dozens of guests exactly like this. It takes a concerted effort to look and act like this; therefore it's perfectly acceptable to criticize them.

[Heather Wade]

I am immune to your cynicism.   

[Agent : Orange]

Let me say that the Ghost Buster Gals do seem to be a low point that I'm least looking forward to. I am hopeful this is an example of Art challenging a guest. And, I'm sure it will be a better show than, say, the Numbers Lady on Dave's show.   

But really, any new guests are welcome at this point.

[WOTR]

But really, any new guests are welcome at this point.

I know... this is what I keep telling myself.  I also ask myself if i would be looking forward to Leer, RCH, Hogue, Alien freezer guy etc if I read their bios or webpages and based my judgment strictly on that.  The guest is less than half of the equation and I have no doubt that Art will bring out the best of what is possible... I just hope that there is something to draw on with these two that can be built upon.  Time will tell... 

[Agent : Orange]

I just hope that there is something to draw on with these two that can be built upon.  Time will tell...

That doesn't even really matter to be honest. Art is trying out new guests and that's the important thing. If they're a footnote, that's fine. Art will make it an interesting conversation at least.

I don't expect every new guest to be a "keeper", but it's encouraging to see he's exploring who else is out there.

[Juan]

What a bunch of whingers.  You cry for new guests, then when you get them, unheard, you complain.  You remind me of my first ex-wife. Ha.

[onan]

What a bunch of whingers.  You cry for new guests, then when you get them, unheard, you complain.  You remind me of my first ex-wife. Ha.

Maybe Art should interview your first ex-wife.

[Juan]

Maybe he could catch her in a manic mode, then hear her switch to her depressed mode. 

[onan]

Maybe he could catch her in a manic mode, then hear her switch to her depressed mode.

I think I dated her.

[Chine]

TONIGHT: Loyd Auerbach. I'm so stoked. Many years ago in college, I wrote a research paper on Parapsychology. The professor was one of the toughest ballbusters. Many feared her. She forced you to work your butt off. I put so much into that paper and made calls throughout the country to those in the field. After reading one of Loyd's books, called him too. He spent a lot of time speaking with me. He was super cool. I got a nice fat A on that paper. While performing at Star Trek TE in Vegas, you'd find performing aliens reading his books backstage.

[onan]

TONIGHT: Loyd Auerbach. I'm so stoked. Many years ago in college, I wrote a research paper on Parapsychology. The professor was one of the toughest ballbusters. Many feared her. She forced you to work your butt off. I put so much into that paper and made calls throughout the country to those in the field. After reading one of Loyd's books, called him too. He spent a lot of time speaking with me. He was super cool. I got a nice fat A on that paper. While performing at Star Trek TE in Vegas, you'd find performing aliens reading his books backstage.

I TA'd a couple parapsychology courses when first in college. Although some "abilities" have been renamed most of it remains the same. The biggest change in the field seems to be the adding of alternative health treatments. I am not sure how that happened.

It at one time (in the 70's) was more statistics and dry observational studies than it was "exciting". Yet in both classes I taught, very few were interested in the discipline. More were interested in the whimsy. Not that whimsy doesn't have a place, I can assure it does.

However I am skeptical on any credentials that are from diploma mills. And it seems this guy has some of that. There is way too much mystery in the hard sciences to divorce clinical study. And diploma mills do exactly that.

I am waiting for tonight to be insightful and academic as well as exploring the incredible. But one without the other would be disappointing. 

[Cynnie]

I am immune to your cynicism.   

Amen

[guildnavigator]

Yeah! Sounds like it's going to be good. Hope he doesn't spend too much time on chocolate because I'd hate to make a trip to the store just for a candy bar. Probably then I'd buy a bag of Halloween candy instead and end up eating way too much candy. Poor teeth. Maybe I won't.


I'm fucking BORED. ART, START THE SHOW EARLY!!


I heard George Noory has a divergent big toe.

[Falkie2013]

Oh well. Art reminded him where he can go to be pampered by a lazy hack. I bet Jorchie jumps at the opportunity to get him on his show to bask in all the "you're a real host George," I love being a guest on c2c haha.

Is the tube shown below how big a tube Jorch's guests need after they've kissed Jorch's behind telling him what a great host he is ?
I couldn't find a picture of a giant tube of Chapstick.
Snoorge will probably hit up on Suzy Chapstick next because she's " famous ".

http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/lip-products/how-to-fill-50-lip-balm-tubes-at-once-2/

Hmm, if vampires are warded off by a crucifix, how do you ward off Snoory ?
Pizza roll boxes ?
Show him a copy of Broadcasting For Dummies ( were there such a book ) ?

Gee, I was making a joke. Seems as if there are 2 Dummies books for radio, just not broadcast radio !
Amazing what they have in that genre.
I may have to pick up those to add to my Dummies book collection. I find them useful when I need to learn about something fast and I love the cartoons, too.
Down the pike, I have been thinking about getting a portable hand held ham set but don't know if I have the dexterity to do morse code, assuming that's still a requirement to get a license.
I have about 70 dummies books ( I think, without getting up to count them because they're in 2 rooms on 2 separate bookshelves. ). One for computer books and one for everything else, including Nostradamus For Dummies.
I also have about 10 of the competing series, Idiot's Guide to ... including one for 2012, which I got for $1 after 2012 was over.


http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Ham-Radio-For-Dummies.productCd-0764559877.html


http://www.barnesandnoble.com/listing/2693775887518?r=1&cm_mmca2=pla&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-Book_25To44-_-Q000000633-_-2693775887518

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[Chine]

I TA'd a couple parapsychology courses when first in college. Although some "abilities" have been renamed most of it remains the same. The biggest change in the field seems to be the adding of alternative health treatments. I am not sure how that happened.

It at one time (in the 70's) was more statistics and dry observational studies than it was "exciting". Yet in both classes I taught, very few were interested in the discipline. More were interested in the whimsy. Not that whimsy doesn't have a place, I can assure it does.

However I am skeptical on any credentials that are from diploma mills. And it seems this guy has some of that. There is way too much mystery in the hard sciences to divorce clinical study. And diploma mills do exactly that.

I am waiting for tonight to be insightful and academic as well as exploring the incredible. But one without the other would be disappointing.

This was one of many required English courses. This one being emphasis on a research paper. While majoring in theatre, it was a nice respite from Ibsen and Brecht, etc.  and I went for a topic pregnant with scrutiny and curiosity. Something unexpected, even from myself. Honestly, just wanted to explore an unfamiliar territory.

[Falkie2013]

Every time I hear him called "The Nighthawk" I think instead of Vonnegut's frequently used "Shitbird" which seems much more appropriate.

The turdhawk ?

[Falkie2013]

Yeah! Sounds like it's going to be good. Hope he doesn't spend too much time on chocolate because I'd hate to make a trip to the store just for a candy bar. Probably then I'd buy a bag of Halloween candy in stead and end up eating way too much candy. Poor teeth. Maybe I won't.


I'm fucking BORED. ART, START THE SHOW EARLY!!


I heard George Noory has a divergent big toe.

He uses it as a meter to tell him how many times the guests will tell him he's wonderful.
When it throbs a lot, it actually dings like a bell, but never like an Art Bell.

[Chine]

Yeah! Sounds like it's going to be good. Hope he doesn't spend too much time on chocolate because I'd hate to make a trip to the store just for a candy bar. Probably then I'd buy a bag of Halloween candy in stead and end up eating way too much candy. Poor teeth. Maybe I won't.


I'm fucking BORED. ART, START THE SHOW EARLY!!


I heard George Noory has a divergent big toe.

Ahaha. Little ghost faced white chocolate covered strawberries. Tried to make those once and they looked like Mr. Bill.

[Falkie2013]

That;s right... make me go look at the upcoming guest section.  I will reserve judgment on Jim Sparks (I usually am not a fan of abductee stories, but it might be alright) and the ghost buster gals.  The other two look good (Monday promises to be excellent with a chocolatier.)  It says he is a public speaking coach in addition to investigating the paranormal, so hopefully Art does not have the problems he had with John "read my book" Hogue.

I am really hoping for something good from the gals, but their bios make me want to cry (most extreme new age wishy washy spiritual people do.)
Laura Lee Mistycah, AKA Witchy Woman, is a solitary practitioner in Wicca, as well as other magickal and spiritual methods, but has recently morphed into more of a futuristic sorceress in her efforts to outwit the Dark Lords who hijacked this planet.
Ronnie Rennae Foster, also known as Angel Girl... Receiving her insights and inspiration from the Angelic Realm, Ronnie is a teacher, empath, intuitive counselor, medium, and a professional, international Ghost Buster.

At least Ronnie might have some interesting stories being certified as an EMT and volunteering at a hospice.  I hold out hope, but anybody who uses "the stone of Truth and Justice" in their daily lives sets off alarm bells...

Hmm, until the pc types changed things Superman was known for Truth, Justice and the American way.
At least the Superman of my era, George Reeves. Who will always be MY Superman, with a nod of acknowledgement to Kirk Alyn, Christopher Reeve ( RIP, along with his wife ) and Dean Cain.
Didn't see enough of Smallville to make a determination of how it was, nor the Superboy series. Though the few episodes I saw I liked, but it was a show you had to follow continuously to know what was going on.
Didn't like Brandon Roush at all, nor the man of steel who's S stood for hope instead of Superman.
What a crock.
And they wouldn't say it in Superman Returns because it might OFFEND someone's delicate sensibilities, usually someone who hates America and all it stands for.
I was wondering does the big one snap one day when she casts the wrong spell and eat the little one ?

[jazmunda]

Damn you daylight savings time! I now have to wait an extra hour for Art.

When does daylight time finish in the US? When that happens it will be another hour.

I had it so good for a while. Art was on 12:00pm to 4:00pm. Now he is on 1:00pm to 5:00pm. Soon it will be 2:00pm to 6:00pm.

That will suck and it will encroach on my time spent with my family. Sorry kids daddy is spending time with his old friend Art.

#fatheroftheyear

[steelbot]

Damn you daylight savings time! I now have to wait an extra hour for Art.

When does daylight time finish in the US? When that happens it will be another hour.

I had it so good for a while. Art was on 12:00pm to 4:00pm. Now he is on 1:00pm to 5:00pm. Soon it will be 2:00pm to 6:00pm.

That will suck and it will encroach on my time spent with my family. Sorry kids daddy is spending time with his old friend Art.

#fatheroftheyear

Heh, just get a nice bluetooth set of headphones, and walk around the house or outside with em whatever - that's how I'm able to not be anti social.  I just put one cup on one ear and leave the other open for when....my selective hearing is working.

[steelbot]

Hmm, until the pc types changed things Superman was known for Truth, Justice and the American way.
At least the Superman of my era, George Reeves. Who will always be MY Superman, with a nod of acknowledgement to Kirk Alyn, Christopher Reeve ( RIP, along with his wife ) and Dean Cain.
Didn't see enough of Smallville to make a determination of how it was, nor the Superboy series. Though the few episodes I saw I liked, but it was a show you had to follow continuously to know what was going on.
Didn't like Brandon Roush at all, nor the man of steel who's S stood for hope instead of Superman.
What a crock.
And they wouldn't say it in Superman Returns because it might OFFEND someone's delicate sensibilities, usually someone who hates America and all it stands for.
I was wondering does the big one snap one day when she casts the wrong spell and eat the little one ?

Smallville was great - minus the bullshit Highschool dramady dram.  And Clarks, but I want Lana storyline for so many years.  There are great episodes and bad one's - I particularly like the one when this Kid has chloe in a nuke silo and clark's lost his powers from Jor-El - so he goes to stop shit and gets shot- but then gets his powers back - climbs a nuke thru the atomosphere and saves "smallville" - either way - cheesy yes - but the series as a whole, if edited properly in a fan-edit sort of way - could be GREAT.  New Supes was good too.  Brandon Roth - eh, not so much.

[coaster]

I just tried to log in at Sirius and it appears my free trial is up. Not good.

[PB the Deplorable]

Copy/pasted From John Hogue's Facebook:


ART BELL ANSWERS JOHN HOGUE--JOHN HOGUE REPLIES

Friends,
I wrote and posted a review of my appearance on Art Bell's new show Dark Matter (8 October 2013). I did it to clear the air and hopefully initiate a public debate between us. I am happy to announce that Art has sent his answer.

For the sake of clarity and continuity, I have inserted my point for point inserts into his letter (below).

I am hoping that Art will take my answers as both direct clarification and constructive criticism from someone who has been an equal collaborator as his guest for 19 years of radio shows on Coast to Coast AM.

Let me make something clear at the onset. My words in the following, though they may be intense and hard hitting, were not written in anger or in reaction. I love Art. Whatever happens to our professional relationship that Love will remain for me. Be warned, especially you astrologers reading this, that my words are written in a cool and centered space of someone who is a 12th House Double Scorpio so they are naturally intense.

I you find anything else flaring up out of them, I would cordially ask you to look at whether it is coming from me, or rather, it is coming from your reaction reflecting back from "my" mirror of words

Now to the letter:

******************************************************************
ART BELL
John Hogue has decided to blast me on his Facebook page AFTER the show was over, saying among other things that I was unprofessional and did not let him respond to profound questions with profound and never ending answers.

JOHN HOGUE
Art Bell is being inaccurate and the smarminess in this opening sentence resembles the unprofessional tone he sometimes used during our show on Tuesday night (8 October 2013).

ART BELL
You also kept saying “read my book” again and again.

HOGUE
For nearly 20 years I have provided Art Bell anywhere from 20 to 30 written questions per show. Although I have no issue with that, it has become ever more clear that Art Bell’s investigation into my work strays no deeper than those questions. That makes our discussions less prepared and effective when he goes on the attack. Further, his statement is inaccurate. I recall only asking him to “read my books” no more than three times in three hours on air, and I indicated why he needed to, which he does not address here.

ART BELL
Yes, I did try to move you along for the sake of our listener’s. If you felt slighted you could have sent me a private message or even called, perhaps a message here on Facebook because you are in my friends list, or responded on the spot since you were there on air, but no, none of that.

HOGUE
First off, I “did” respond on air in a number of “now Art…” moments. Moreover, I spelled it out loud and clear to you and to the angry listeners Art tried to work up to call in (unsuccessfully). I told both the callers and Art: be prepared, or I’ll go after you. Hard. “With my double-Scorpio stingers.”

Art Bell’s premise about Facebook is a little behind the times.

When Art last retired, Facebook was in its infancy. Since he’s been away, the media revolution has undergone “The Quickening” he wrote about.

Now Facebook is an Internet hegemon, a global public forum with an ever-changing understanding of what is private and public.
Networks of friends share with other friends who then share with their networks and so on…

It’s not that private anymore.

Yes, I am one of Art Bell’s Facebook friends.

I’m also a frequent guest appearing on Coast to Coast AM.

Art’s acidic barbs thrown at George Noory and Coast are also an indirect attack on anyone who regularly appears on Coast.

Long before I appeared on Dark Matter last Tuesday, what Art Bell has been writing against Coast had long gone viral all over the world and by his own promotion reached well beyond Facebook.

Art Bell went after Coast even in TIME Magazine last month!

Check out David Dickey’s article for The Culture section ("Take Back the Night: the king of insomniac radio is ready to reclaim his crown"):

“Bell says the decision to come out of retirement was entirely his,” reports Dickey, “a response to the direction that Noory has taken the showâ€"closer to talk radio’s over-caffeinated political chat…than the open-minded exploration of the supernatural that defined Bell’s tenure. Noory, he says, has 'ruined' the franchise.” (TIME, September 23, 2013)

And he’s upset in the next passage because “I went public”???

Compared to the prodigious global spread of Bell's anti-Coast media spin listed above, I find the following protest about my lack of professionalism humorous to say the least.

ART BELL
Not my idea of professional but alright, since you went public I guess this is the correct forum to respond in.

HOGUE
Then comes a gooey putdown spiced with faux-apologies and bovine clichés…

ART BELL
I am sorry you felt hurried John but my view is that if you want a Host who will introduce you and then take a nap I know you know where to find him, not my idea of professional, or perhaps your own show where you can profoundly drone on till the cows come home.

HOGUE
Be honest, you are not sorry. You want more concise examples of unprofessional moments? For starters, the snide, pontificating tone you take in the above passage was often used on air last Tuesday.

Here’s another example. It happened around the end of the second hour. You said, if I recall, something to the affect of: “John Hogue will actually make a prediction…”

I had “actually” delivered many predictions by then, which I made you acknowledged on the air after that cheap shot.

Here’s another example. A caller asked me to make distant future predictions. Trying to help you get me concise, I said I could quickly take everyone forward, down 1,000 years of future human political evolution. Then you jumped on my lines. I was ordered to keep it real short. I can’t recall if this was when you hurled one of your “three words only” bombs. There was even a shout for a one-word answer too, which I gave you.

Then there’s the best example: the shouting meltdown. That’s something you never did on the air with me in 19 years! I like to call it “Art Bell’s Thousand-Year Prophecy Meltdown”.

You went into an apoplectic fitâ€"mixed-up memory and all.

The tape will show that I had to blow it back, then calm you down and help get your questioners issue straight.

Then, once chastened, sullenly mumbling I was right, I heard no apology.

ART BELL
I know when a Guest is so interesting that I should just keep my mouth shut and do many times. That was not one of those nights.

HOGUE
You’re right. It wasn’t one of those nights. Nights I cherished being your guest. You were off your rhythm. Now the good news. It’s the only crappy show we did, so take heart, Art.

You know, I have a unique and ongoing experience since 1987. I keep taking the measure of many hundreds of talk show hosts and counting on five continents. I’ve also taken the measure of interviewers in over 100 television spots and documentaries: Discovery, History Channel, NBC, FOX, BigSky TV (London), RAI TV (Italy)...

Do the math. I must be an interesting guest.

Otherwise, why was I on ABC’s the View, CNN International, BBC International Radio, just recently on Russia Channel One, and last but certainly not least, a string of popularly rated interviews with George Noory on Coast to Coast AM?

I’ve taken my measure of a lot of hosts in 26 years.

Maybe, just "maybe", if I say Art Bell was off his game last Tuesday, it might have some merit?

Let go of your Noory-Coast grudge, Art. Coast and you are history.

Move on.

Let’s talk about the future and your new show Dark Matter.

You want to make our DM shows more adversarial and gritty dialogues?

Great! I’m in.

I have no problem doing “fight radio” with Art Bell, but after the last show, there’s going to be, as Bill Maher would say, New Rules.

1.) Art Bell prepares his own shows. The days of propping him up with my 20 to 30 questions per show since 1994 is over.

2.) Let’s switch the game. Art Bell will send me 20 to 30 hard-hitting questions that “I” must concisely answerâ€"feet to fire, with no BS.

3.) As a flustered Dolores Cannon and Shaun Hannity found out the hard way, ignoring this caveat: back up your barbs. Know what you’re talking about or my counter punches will be swift and devastating.

No more sucker punching the guest like last Tuesday.

ART BELL
DM is real Radio and I have no intention of allowing it to be hijacked by Guest’s who are unwilling to have a dialog. If you want to make a speech please run for office.

HOGUE
The one who is being political is Art Bell and I would add, he’s a little confused. One day I read him in cyberspace publicly say he doesn’t want politics on his show. Yet on my appearance we did some political predictions.

He’s on XM Radio but he doesn’t want any cussing.

OK, no problem. Then I hear from his and my connected Facebook friends that he recently cussed on the air about the government shutdown. (Understandable, but again, at cross purposes with forcefully declaring rules on the air not to cuss.)

In my experience, Art Bell last Tuesday doesn’t sound like he knows yet what he wants DM to be and he carried me along on his confusing ride. I hope he'll soon find his voice and his rhythm, but I think this lingering "grump" about Coast to Coast these days pulls him back into grudges from the past, and keeps his creative energies muddy, mean and muddled about Dark Matter's future. I predict Dark Matter will not be a success until he can let Coast go and move forward into a new future clean.

(Now there's a concise prophecy. See, Art, I'm getting better)

ART BELL
I try very hard to be polite to my Guest’s but I also have a responsibility to my listener’s if required, and it was. Sorry your feelings were hurt.

HOGUE
That again smacks as insincere apology, masking a lot of passive-aggressive anger.

Art Bell’s response to my review ends as it began, with a tone of oily distain, under which sleeping barbs lie, wearing expressions of apologetic masks.

This is not our first dance together on the airwaves, Art.

We did this dance of ideas two to three times a year starting in November 1994 up to at least 2006 or through 2007.

I know well your responsibilities as host for 19 years and counting.

I number you among the most gifted hosts when it comes to moving a show and changing the tempo. Over the years, you skillfully conducted my equally important contribution to those shows, many of which are classics.

I am fifty percent of this classic radio ensemble. My input and review of the last show has some depth of experience behind it:

Tuesday was not among your best performances as a host.

Want to try it again?

I suggest we return to this point in six months. Let’s let time lower the temperature level between you and me and also let time cool the savage missives of your more abusive and threatening fans.

You now know my new rules for the boxing match.

Want to take a ride?

It’s your show.

It’s your call.

Whatever your decision, thank you Art Bell for the great times past and potential times, future.

John Hogue
(Hogueprophecy.com)
14 October 2013

[PB the Deplorable]

Yes, he clearly belongs on George Noory's suckfest. 

And more importantly, not on Dark Matter.

[Heather Wade]

I see signs of obsessive compulsive disorder going tit for titty tat like that.  Obviously he needs a block of ice for his ego burn.  Art Bell rules, and so did his response. 

Wtf is a "bovine cliche"?

[aldousburbank]

Wtf is a "bovine cliche"?

Moo?