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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

I_Speculate

Quote from: PKaiser on July 20, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Oh shut the fuck up....

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU JACKASS? When i want your opinions I'll give them to you.


coaster

Quote from: BattyBrooke on July 20, 2016, 03:41:57 AM
Remember when Jazmunda was arrested? This was the funniest vid I'd ever seen posted to bellgab.


https://youtu.be/pEsZkTTgydc
Classic.

Quote from: JesusJuice on July 19, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that Art picked Heather as his successor based solely on her talent and experience?

Because she lacks both.

Next question?

Robert

Quote from: god of thunder on July 19, 2016, 09:25:13 PMFrom what I could surmise, Heather had little, or no experience in the radio business.
Apparently, she was a huge Art Bell fan.

When she got the job; after Art quit,
That sentence-and-a-half distorts the sequence of events.  She'd become his producer.  Is there any evidence she was bad at that job?  Then she was plugged into the breach on air.

Not unprecedented.  Jason Jarvis was his mother Judy Jarvis's producer, then took over on air when she sickened (smoking-related lung CA, BTW), and again when she died.  I listened for a while, but he was clearly inferior, yet when I looked it up recently I found out his show had hung on a few years.

I've heard that occasionally it's happened in talk radio that someone has stepped up to the mic from the background & become a star.  It's not impossible, but the odds are against.

I wouldn't be surprised if I could've read Judy Jarvis's mind while she was still alive & listening to her son that she had a higher opinion of his skills than the audience did, but you'd expect that with parent & child.  It wouldn't shock me, however, to learn that she thought, "Uh-oh, he's not so good."  But she would never say that even if she thought it.  So I can't put too much stock in Mr. Bell's professions about Ms. Wade as either wishful thinking or evidence of some other relationship.  What's he supposed to say, "I know she's only mediocre, but listen anyway, folks."?

Besides, I did see improvement in her on air over the initial weeks.  But then it seemed to plateau or at least slow down.  What the heck, Noory wasn't awful from the get-go, but he slipped into a very deep rut, I think because he lost interest.  It's not at all amazing that Noory got the job, only that he's kept it so long.

It's not like there was a great choice to pick from at the time Ms. Wade was put on air.  Getting a lot of people to listen to you for a long time is hard.  By and large, our impulse is to listen for an extended period or repeatedly only to those we have reason to -- family, business, etc.  It's remarkable that people like Mr. Bell have been able to do that, and such people are rare -- or at least they're rare among those interested in doing that job.  What they're doing seems so easy -- after all, most people can talk, right?  But just try sustaining interest.  I know, I'm an expert at boring even my friends.  And there's no simple thing you can point to from the shows themselves that says, "Ah, that's the key, do this."  There are lots of simple things you can do to make such a show worse (as we see from Mr. Noory), not a lot to make them better.

It's obvious both Mr. Bell & Ms. Wade are enthusiastic about talking -- enough so that either would do a lot of it without getting paid.  (Not as much of it, but still a lot as a hobby if they were making a living otherwise.)  Enthusiasm's necessary but not sufficient.  I think they each have great voices (and so does Noory), although I understand what's a turn-on to me in Ms. Wade's is a turn-off to others, but a great voice isn't sufficient and isn't strictly necessary either (although a bad enough voice can be a disqualifier).  Research on the subject matter, with or without help, is mostly necessary, although occasionally agood show may be had by someone winging it, but is not sufficient.  Restraint is necessary, and seems to be a quality in which Ms. Wade was lacking, although I haven't listened in a few mos. now, and her flaw may have been an artifact of pressing and lack of confidence at some point.

The only way to find out is the way we, and Mr. Bell, have been finding out.

bobo17

folks
i will make a major announcement soon

bobo


Value Of Pi

Quote from: TigerLily on July 19, 2016, 12:04:27 AM
When we were young and naive and the future was full of possibilities.  And Art was on the air again live  :'(

I think Michelle Obama once said a similar thing. Or maybe it was Melania. Anyway, the future seems like a long time ago.

boxman

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
That sentence-and-a-half distorts the sequence of events.  She'd become his producer.  Is there any evidence she was bad at that job?
One of the big complaints when Art was still hosting was that she kept getting the same old boring guests.
A lot of people like myself also thought that saucyrossy at that time did a much better job with OSOM when it came to the guests.
The few times she actually was able to book someone "new" it was as complete disaster due to lack of research, like the Satanist lady.
It was obvious during those shows that she just booked them without research at all just because they sounded good on paper when in reality even just a little research would have been enough to see that this is not the guest you would want on this show.

Zenman

Quote from: Value Of Pi on July 20, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
I think Michelle Obama once said a similar thing. Or maybe it was Melania. Anyway, the future seems like a long time ago.

It was Twilight Sparkle.

Lil Godzilla

Quote from: bobo17 on July 20, 2016, 11:29:04 AM
folks
i will make a major announcement soon

bobo

Your death, I hope >:(

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 01:03:00 PM

The few times she actually was able to book someone "new" it was as complete disaster due to lack of research, like the Satanist lady.


The episode with the lady that had Bigfoot in her backyard, stealing her laundry, was a classic.

Lunger

Quote from: god of thunder on July 19, 2016, 09:25:13 PM
Before I decided to finally join the forum; I read a lot of the posts, and listened to the podcasts.
I wanted to familiarize myself with the place, people, and the whole Art situation.

From what I could surmise, Heather had little, or no experience in the radio business.
Apparently, she was a huge Art Bell fan.

When she got the job; after Art quit, it was said she got it because of some hanky panky between her and Art.
I won't comment on that; its conjecture, and frankly not my business.

In my humble opinion; only an unqualified one, what I see was an older man who was smitten with the idea of a younger woman's adoration.
Art wouldn't be the first, nor the last to succumb to this.
Unfortunately, this would impede Art's better judgment.
Any clear thinking person couldn't possibly expect a radio host of Art's calibre, to be replaced by someone with little or no experience.

What we have now, is a lot of disappointed people.
People disappointed that Art quit, and disappointed with a new host that just can't seem to fill the seat.

I don't want to appear mean or disrespectful to Art, or Heather by posting this.
This is only my personal opinion; we all have one.


Heather also sounds a lot like Ramona.

PKaiser

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 20, 2016, 09:59:42 AM
Among other things. If BellGab were a children's playground, PK would be the guy in the soiled raincoat with his hands thrust deep in his pockets, watching the goings on at the swings with fierce intensity.

The last time you were on they didn't have another show for what seemed like an eternity. Despite opening every available window, the stench lingered so long that nobody was able to go back in there for months. I had to perform an ancient druid cleansing/ exorcism to get rid of all the bad juju.

Kaiser by name, kaiser by nature. Give these Teutonic types an inch and they want to run the bloody place. Get your tanks off our lawn, buddy.

You're not the first person to suggest the gay porn angle as a way of increasing the download numbers. Frankly, it's all GravitySucks talks about these days, but it's still a minority view at present.

You are fantastic!  It's like having me own Johnny Rotten following me around but without the punch up!  I just wish I could HEAR you say all that in that cloyingly erudite accent you are all gifted with!

Bobo, on the other hand....

ItsOver

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on July 20, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
The episode with the lady that had Bigfoot in her backyard, stealing her laundry, was a classic.
That one did give me a chuckle or two.  A lemon meringue pie-loving Bigfoot. :))

Quote from: ItsOver on July 20, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
That one did give me a chuckle or two.  A lemon meringue pie-loving Bigfoot. :))

A pantie stealing, pie eating, perverted sasquach? I like 'em already.

ItsOver

Quote from: rekcuf on July 20, 2016, 06:13:50 PM
A pantie stealing, pie eating, perverted sasquach? I like 'em already.
Yep.  Almost sounds like MV.


Quote from: rekcuf on July 20, 2016, 06:13:50 PM
A pantie stealing, pie eating, perverted sasquach? I like 'em already.

I remember there use to be some character on MySpace who called himself Gay Bigfoot. It was some guy from L.A. who had a great sense of humor and acted like some bigfoot Dear Abby advisor to other fun loving users. He was pretty funny. Maybe it was him.


Robert

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 01:03:00 PMThe few times she actually was able to book someone "new" it was as complete disaster due to lack of research, like the Satanist lady.

It was obvious during those shows that she just booked them without research at all just because they sounded good on paper when in reality even just a little research would have been enough to see that this is not the guest you would want on this show.
I thought the Satanist lady show was great largely because Art was blind-sided & frustrated about it -- or at least played it that way.  I'm still not sure that wasn't all an act on his part.

Quote from: Astrid Galactic on July 20, 2016, 06:30:28 PM
I remember there use to be some character on MySpace who called himself Gay Bigfoot. It was some guy from L.A. who had a great sense of humor and acted like some bigfoot Dear Abby advisor to other fun loving users. He was pretty funny. Maybe it was him.

Bigfoot was just out lookin' for some strange...  ;D

Quote from: rekcuf on July 20, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Bigfoot was just out lookin' for some strange...  ;D

LOL. As if he wasn't already strange enough.

Element 115

Happy one year anniversary, MiTD. Maybe Art can do a guest appearance tonight since it's the anniversary of the show.

boxman

Quote from: Element 115 on July 20, 2016, 07:54:45 PM
Happy one year anniversary, MiTD. Maybe Art can do a guest appearance tonight since it's the anniversary of the show.
Haha yeah right as if that is ever going to happen.
This is the guy who did not even call in, back when he was still "healthy" and the show and network was under full collapse.
If he actually gave two shits he would have made at least a weekly appearance as a host and yet he did not even call in as a caller.

The truth is he used the stalker episode as a excuse because he was burned out and did not enjoy it anymore.

I_Speculate

The guest tonight does seem interesting. I've always been interested in magick but don't really believe it is for real.

JesusJuice

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 08:18:23 PM
Haha yeah right as if that is ever going to happen.
This is the guy who did not even call in, back when he was still "healthy" and the show and network was under full collapse.
If he actually gave two shits he would have made at least a weekly appearance as a host and yet he did not even call in as a caller.

The truth is he used the stalker episode as a excuse because he was burned out and did not enjoy it anymore.


Not true. He called in two months ago to retell his famous Mastercard story.


http://midnightinthedesert.com/art-bell-calls-mastercard-story/


And he hosted a full night of open lines in... March I think it was? He shilled for Trump the entire three hours.

Element 115

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 08:18:23 PM
Haha yeah right as if that is ever going to happen.
This is the guy who did not even call in, back when he was still "healthy" and the show and network was under full collapse.
If he actually gave two shits he would have made at least a weekly appearance as a host and yet he did not even call in as a caller.

The truth is he used the stalker episode as a excuse because he was burned out and did not enjoy it anymore.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Element 115

Quote from: JesusJuice on July 20, 2016, 08:22:06 PM

Not true. He called in two months ago to retell his famous Mastercard story.


http://midnightinthedesert.com/art-bell-calls-mastercard-story/


And he hosted a full night of open lines in... March I think it was? He shilled for Trump the entire three hours.

Yes. I remember both.

norland2424

Quote from: JesusJuice on July 20, 2016, 08:22:06 PM

Not true. He called in two months ago to retell his famous Mastercard story.


http://midnightinthedesert.com/art-bell-calls-mastercard-story/


And he hosted a full night of open lines in... March I think it was? He shilled for Trump the entire three hours.

He also called in sometime in jan using his demon voice changer

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