Art Bell

[BellBoy]

I'd re-up as a Time Traveller again if Art did a couple shows a week.  I'm sure many would as well.

Art thinks that because its been 3 months since his departure that all of the "thousands| of current subscriptions are because of Heather running the show.  I think that the majority of them would still be people holding on for Art to return.  I mean it's only $5 a month on a payment setup that automatically pays every month.  If we had to manually re-apply every month, or if the subscriptions were of a more significant monetary value, there would have been a much larger drop off in subs over the last 3 months.

C'mon Art, if she'll let you do 1 show, she'll let you do 2 shows.  Dont let your illness "control your ability to do a show", you CAN do it and you damn well know it.

peace
Hog

But, but, but... THE STALKER!

[Dr. MD MD]

But, but, but... THE STALKER!

BELLBOY! Keep the lip buttoned up 

[helloidistance]

I wonder if he would come over to do Coast full time if Premiere could beat whatever KLAS-TV was paying him.  It would be a wise move for them. Also there was word at one point Noory would cut back to 2 or 3 shows a week when he turns 66 in a few months. Who else do they have in mind to fill all those shows?

A likely delusional wish but that would be the ultimate dream come true if he came over and shared MITD with Art. He has penciled in one or two days a week.

Doubtful. I think Knapp's first love is what he is doing now. I agree though, Knapp is the best thing they have on C2C as of now.

Noory has always been pretty bad, but recently it's been horrible even for him. He mentally retired years ago.

[Lilith]

My opinion of what went wrong with MITD when Art left it, was to continue to charge a subscription for the archive, and to keep the name MITD.  When Art left, I think its ok that Heather took over the time slot if that's what she wanted to do, but with her own webpage, with its own show name, and  free archives.  A subscription for archives might make sense much later on down the line once Heather succeeds at securing a gigantic global fame, and following. IMO.

[Drunkenyoyomaster]

My opinion of what went wrong with MITD when Art left it, was to continue to charge a subscription for the archive, and to keep the name MITD.  When Art left, I think its ok that Heather took over the time slot if that's what she wanted to do, but with her own webpage, with its own show name, and  free archives.  A subscription for archives might make sense much later on down the line once Heather succeeds at securing a gigantic global fame, and following. IMO.

As much sense as that makes, I think the whole thing is a strategic move to one: keep the door open for Art if he changes his mind and ţwo: parlay a pre-set up gig for his friend Heather, to let her have a shot at her dream job. Is it fair to us? Probably not, but that's what I think is going on.

[Lilith]

As much sense as that makes, I think the whole thing is a strategic move to one: keep the door open for Art if he changes his mind and ţwo: parlay a pre-set up gig for his friend Heather, to let her have a shot at her dream job. Is it fair to us? Probably not, but that's what I think is going on.

Art could always "sit it" for Heather on her own show if he wanted to go on the air.  If Art wanted to truly support Heather, he would sit in for her OFTEN, on her own, subscription free program. IMO.

[creepygreenlight]

My opinion of what went wrong with MITD when Art left it, was to continue to charge a subscription for the archive, and to keep the name MITD.

This so absolutely true.  Perhaps the worst part about Heather's transition was keeping the name of the show and even using Art's famous bumper music.  I think doing that really gave folks the feeling of betrayal, it was like witnessing a George Noory takeover all over again.  Heather should have made the show her own, in doing so she would have avoided giving Art's fans that "bait and switch" feeling yet again...

[ItsOver]

This so absolutely true.  Perhaps the worst part about what Heather's transition was keeping the name of the show and even using Art's famous bumper music.  I think doing that really gave folks the feeling of betrayal, it was like witnessing a George Noory takeover all over again.  Heather should have made the show her own, in doing so she would have avoided everyone feel like a "bait and switch" scheme had just occurred yet again...

I was definitely having "(S)He gets it" flashbacks, as it all went down.  Now, it's a feeling of just being strung along.  Meh.

[PB the Deplorable]

My opinion of what went wrong with MITD when Art left it, was to continue to charge a subscription for the archive, and to keep the name MITD.  When Art left, I think its ok that Heather took over the time slot if that's what she wanted to do, but with her own webpage, with its own show name, and  free archives.  A subscription for archives might make sense much later on down the line once Heather succeeds at securing a gigantic global fame, and following. IMO.

Don't they need the subscriptions to pay for keeping the network running, including salaries for Keith and HW?

[nooryisawesome]

If you take a break from MITD and listen to other paranormal podcast, then go back to listening to MITD you will realize Heather isn't 100 terrible. She is Decent  in my opinion. People don't like her because they compare her to art. No one can compare to Art. She probably should change the name to limit comparisons.

[nooryisawesome]

Don't they need the subscriptions to pay for keeping the network running, including salaries for Keith and HW?

Sure they do. Even if I don't listen to every show its only $5. I am happy to support a avenue of return for Art even if he only does a few shows a month. I think there is also value in having an alternative to the I Heart Radio Cabal.

[Dr. MD MD]

If you take a break from MITD and listen to other paranormal podcast, then go back to listening to MITD you will realize Heather isn't 100 terrible. She is Decent  in my opinion. People don't like her because they compare her to art. No one can compare to Art. She probably should change the name to limit comparisons.

Perhaps Midnight In A Room Somewhere? 

Of course, they'd have to change the song too. Shame, it's such a pretty Crystal Gayle song 

[ItsOver]

Don't they need the subscriptions to pay for keeping the network running, including salaries for Keith and HW?

I doubt if commercials for goat soap are covering most of the bills. 

[PB the Deplorable]

No worries, I do have thick skin and I do ignore the Troll's...

And included in with 'trolls' is anyone posting questions and comments Art doesn't like

... I am getting older now and trust me it's not for the faint of heart, so if I can leave something behind that will grow to be what I wish I had the Years left to build I will be a happy camper.

Art

In other words this is about Art's ego.  Telling someone they have talent and are doing well when they don't and aren't is a pretty lousy thing to do when they are making life decisions based on being told that.  Especially when it's by someone they trust and admire, and who should be in a position to know.

[nooryisawesome]

I doubt if commercials for goat soap are covering most of the bills.

Not any worse than Carnivora or paranormal date ads.

[ItsOver]

Not any worse than Carnivora or paranormal date ads.

Other than Carnivora is no doubt paying more for PremRad airtime.  The level of suckage is comparable, though.  At least you don't have to endure a screaming lady with the ads.

[Lilith]

Don't they need the subscriptions to pay for keeping the network running, including salaries for Keith and HW?

Its not my responsibility to pay for anyones network or salary, its their responsibility to make me want to subscribe.

[Lilith]

If you take a break from MITD and listen to other paranormal podcast, then go back to listening to MITD you will realize Heather isn't 100 terrible. She is Decent  in my opinion. People don't like her because they compare her to art. No one can compare to Art. She probably should change the name to limit comparisons.

I listen to CaravanToMidnight, I even feel like subscribing to that program, so I do, and I listen to Clyde Lewis, along with various other podcasts that come on once a week, some of them bellgabbers doing free programs that I enjoy WAY much more than Heather.  Heather was in her element on Gabcast chatting with the bellgabbers IMO.  I totally enjoyed listening to her on the Gabcast with MV.

Praise MV!

[SredniVashtar]

Its not my responsibility to pay for anyones network or salary, its their responsibility to make me want to subscribe.

SLAM!! Let this be a lesson to all those who attempt to mess with brig. Many have tried, but they were never heard from again. Why? Because they are all dead.

[cweb]

If you take a break from MITD and listen to other paranormal podcast, then go back to listening to MITD you will realize Heather isn't 100 terrible. She is Decent  in my opinion. People don't like her because they compare her to art. No one can compare to Art. She probably should change the name to limit comparisons.

I have listened to other podcasts and hosts like Warner, Hughes, and Wells. They are better hosts in a crowded, competitive field.

Its not my responsibility to pay for anyones network or salary, its their responsibility to make me want to subscribe.

That's a great way to describe my issue with the current state of MITD. The hosts I listed above are all competing for my time (plus the occasional weekend Coast stuff from Syrett, Knapp, and Schrader). If Heather was the lone person doing this type of podcast, I might still be a subscriber. But all those people do it better.

And yes, it would be nice to have a strong female voice. I'm still looking for someone in the mold of Rolleye James.

[ItsOver]

SLAM!! Let this be a lesson to all those who attempt to mess with brig. Many have tried, but they were never heard from again. Why? Because they are all dead.

Absolutely.  She has stated on this very forum she loves us somewhere between full on the lips, tongue in the mouth love and a wishy washy, vague kind of love.  Beware.

[Hollow Man]

My opinion of what went wrong with MITD when Art left it, was to continue to charge a subscription for the archive, and to keep the name MITD.  When Art left, I think its ok that Heather took over the time slot if that's what she wanted to do, but with her own webpage, with its own show name, and  free archives.  A subscription for archives might make sense much later on down the line once Heather succeeds at securing a gigantic global fame, and following. IMO.

Wow, I love how you're being so sincere trying to help Heather. That's really great insight and not the least bit passive-aggressive. IMO.  :

[ziznak]

Eh... I think MITD holds it's own when compared to other shows.  By MITD I mean MITD w heather.  I check in every day to see what guest is on.  If I feel like she's got a good one I listen.  Sometimes even if the guest sux and I'm totally not interested I may listen.  It's my nightly show.  Now during the day and while in transit I listen to the rest of my podcasts. 
MITD comes first for me not only because I like the show and I like heather and I like Art but also because it finds it's roots here.  It's a show that we helped make happen. 

Now, you ask any mother about her kids and she'll tell you.  "Lil billy may not have come up the way I wanted him... but i love him anyway."

[SredniVashtar]

Wow, I love how you're being so sincere trying to help Heather. That's really great insight and not the least bit passive-aggressive. IMO.  :

I am sure we all admire your kindergarten way with irony, but what exactly did she say that you disagree with? At the moment she is the radio equivalent of a remora. Most of the people listening to her are 1) not sufficiently motivated to cancel their subscription, or 2) they are hoping that Art will eventually come back. Even the ones who try to say positive things about her come across as people who are damning with faint praise. If Art said "that's it, the show's over!" then we'd have a chance to see how she does by herself. Eventually you need to throw off the training wheels and stand on on your own, but there has been no sign that this is happening. Also, I am sure lots of people continue with their subs because it gives them access to Art's shows and they don't want to go through the hassle of downloading them (technophobe idiots, of course, but there are always some around).

Art seems to think that people should listen to her because she used to be a contributor to this forum, which makes no bloody sense at all. People only want a decent show, they don't want to be guilt-tripped into throwing someone a bone.

[Lilith]

Absolutely.  She has stated on this very forum she loves us somewhere between full on the lips, tongue in the mouth love and a wishy washy, vague kind of love.  Beware.

[Lilith]

Wow, I love how you're being so sincere trying to help Heather. That's really great insight and not the least bit passive-aggressive. IMO.  :

I wasn't hired to help Heather....not my job. I was just stating my opinion.  . 

[Lilith]

SLAM!! Let this be a lesson to all those who attempt to mess with brig. Many have tried, but they were never heard from again. Why? Because they are all dead.

I'm tempted to change my avatar pic......  Lolls 

[Hollow Man]

I wasn't hired to help Heather....not my job. I was just stating my opinion.  . 

Never said you were. I was just pointing out that cute little dig you made at Heather, that's all. And that's what it was: a disingenuous, passive-aggressive little dig completely lacking in even the least bit of sincerity whatsoever, simple as that. Nothing more, nothing less. That's got nothing to do with some "job" you're supposed to perform. You think she's a piece of shit. Just say so, then, and stop being cute about it.

BTW, nobody's ever tried to "keep you out" of the HW thread, either; that was your neurosis. There's no fucking "Heather Police" suppressing dissent; you wanna post, then post. Or is this all about you not wanting to deal with people who actually, uh, disagree with you because it annoys you THAT much? You act like we're a bunch of rabid chimps ripping peoples' faces off. Let me guess: you think we're too mean to Donald Noory, right? Tough shit, he's got it coming. LOL. I don't know why you would want to identify with that faggot to the point of staying away, but that's your problem. Here's a hint: don't act like Donald Noory. There, problem solved. 

[Ms. C]

http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/w6obb

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/1/2/7/1271e3d3cbf18087/Episode_085_Art_Bell_W6OBB_Final.mp3?c_id=11265280&expiration=1458519540&hwt=7e856fb049410b4f28f6fb88c2c50531

Whether you are in the I hate Art camp / I love Art camp and/or the I hate Heather camp / I love Heather camp ... it was definitely good to hear Art on open lines the other week AND  the Ham Radio interview (a whole hour) -- link above and below -- also, it's free ... you don't have to be a time traveler or a subscriber to listen to Art!  Enjoy the interview and the second day of Spring!

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/1/2/7/1271e3d3cbf18087/Episode_085_Art_Bell_W6OBB_Final.mp3?c_id=11265280&expiration=1458519540&hwt=7e856fb049410b4f28f6fb88c2c50531[/size]

[Chocolate coated jackboot]

Any idea how much the bumper music costs? Are they locked in for a certain amount of time? I thought they would have ditched it long ago.