Art Bell

[theONE]

i'm not saying heather is a seasoned pro or that she's beyond critique, but i do believe the audience would have reacted similarly with any replacement host.  just my opinion, and i could be totally wrong.

in this case,yes, you are in my opinion.

If the replacement host was just good, [never mind very good], people would not be so pissed off
, pointing out basic luck of skills /that horrible*Heather has plenty of/, ...people would just enjoy the show.

[Mr. Fidget]

It was good to hear Art last night. I like MiTD with Heather. I listen to it while I'm doing things.
Ok
That's about as emotionally invested as I care to get about these things. Hope all is well with everybody today.

Isn't this the best time of year there, like the furnace got turned off?
I'm making fidgets today, and speculating about Art's "Bell roots", spurned on by this cool old fire extinguisher (with a 1957 Bell labs seal) that I recently acquired. MiTD is... what it is, to cliche it. I think Art will be back, a hunch... Heather is holding together well. My first time behind the board in OTA FM was at KAIR, in the basement of the University of Colorado Memorial Center. I was just a kid. It's a strange set of variables to turn a few knobs, toss around a couple carts, and slide a couple faders to keep the air, on the road. Because I was a kid, I was not allowed to talk. As a kid, the FCC did not allow kids to be on the air. The station manager Michael was cool though, so he covertly let me for a  few nights, until I talked. It was funny, I knew all the dj's, and when they'd want to leave early they'd let me finish the night.

I imagine skype has a few more technical concerns, but seems to work fine for Heather. If Art gets her the SIP straight, I'm sure that will increase quality. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol

[cweb]

I didn't hear Art say anything that would lead me to believe he'll ever return to radio...   

That was sadly my feeling as well. I'm glad he admitted that a 5-day-per-week gig was out of the question. I do (perhaps naively) think he'll try to get back on for an unannounced show or two every month once things settle down. He seems to crave doing the talk radio thing.

[SciFiAuthor]

If the replacement host was just good, [never mind very good], people would not be so pissed off

Don't be stupid, anyone that got in there would have had a hard time because they aren't Art Bell. It would have went well for no one. As for her skills, she's better than Noory. Her guests . . . . not so much, those are hopelessly old and tired. It's not 1995 anymore, updated thinking is needed.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I like how none of Art's questioners, trolls or detractors had the balls to call in other than Hoagland's batshit crazy stalker. And he called a lot. People think Fidge is bad, imagine spending your life trying to obsessively air a grievance against Richard C. Hoagland. There is literally no more useless of a pursuit than that. A f'n heroin addiction is a more positive and productive life decision than that shit.

I and a few others were trying to call in last night. But I definitely agree with everything else you said. 

[creepygreenlight]

This one is for you, Mr. Fidget...

What's the difference between the halocaust and a dairy cow?

You can't milk a dairy cow for 80 years.

[DarKPenguiN]

Anyone have a link to where the interview was posted (or is it even posted yet) ?

[theONE]

I work with the mentally ill. There are many options to help escape or avoid homelessness. The first step however is to choose to get help.

I'm big shit secure because I made conscious and sometimes painful decisions to be secure.

Homelessness occurs primarily because of mental illness. It can be of two varieties, some level of mood disorder or psychosis, or because of severe personality disorders. Sometimes a combination of both.

Now I feel very bad ...for the people you are working with !!

You of all people here should have more class and respect for the way you are responding
to Mr.Fidget...since you work in that environment.
Shame on YOU for being such a vomit of a person.

So, there is a chance that you might one day become a patient , not a worker at the place you are
working now,..so you can learn about compassion and not just doing you job to collect money, ...hmmm

[DarKPenguiN]

This one is for you, Mr. Fidget...

What's the difference between the halocaust and a dairy cow?

You can't milk a dairy cow for 80 years.

........ Uh...... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. OMG, that was funny and wrong (but more funny than wrong)

[Mr. Fidget]

This one is for you, Mr. Fidget...

What's the difference between the halocaust and a dairy cow?

You can't milk a dairy cow for 80 years.

/reported that should be in the jokes thread.

[onan]

Now I feel very bad ...for the people you are working with !!

You of all people here should have more class and respect for the way you are responding
to Mr.Fidget...since you work in that environment.
Shame on YOU for being such a vomit of a person.

So, there is a chance that you might one day become a patient , not a worker at the place you are
working now,..so you can learn about compassion and not just doing you job to collect money, ...hmmm

Yeah, fine. There is no time or opportunity for a therapeutic relationship.

Pragmatism is all that is available, other than ignoring him. So if you see me as an evil person, I really don't care. I have laid out the facts as best as I can.

Just so you know, I could have chosen career paths that would have paid a great deal more money.

But you are a naive one.

[theONE]

that Heather can get radio hosting job at any radio station if she want's, she is that good now
...according to ArtB.

nobody ever said that.  your credibility is cat shit questionable.

O,yes O,yes -- Art said it, ..please listen to the interview MV had last night

[Value Of Pi]

I enjoyed the GabCast, MV. I was glad to hear Art again! I didn't hear Art say anything that would lead me to believe he'll ever return to radio...   

I still say an announcement or decisive decision of some kind coulda, woulda, shoulda been the thing to do. Not a big surprise he didn't do it, just annoyingly disappointing. Especially since he doubled down on Heather, forecasting her great success as a radio star in the future. I thought that was embarrassing.

[Philosopher]

Yeah, fine. There is no time or opportunity for a therapeutic relationship.

Pragmatism is all that is available, other than ignoring him. So if you see me as an evil person, I really don't care. I have laid out the facts as best as I can.

Just so you know, I could have chosen career paths that would have paid a great deal more money.

But you are a naive one.

An expert's recommendation for one to seek counseling is potentially a most loving act.  If heeded, it could restore happiness to one or many.  If only remembered, it becomes a seed that might be acted upon in the future.  Believe me, sometimes unvarnished bluntness is the best 'suspension' for difficult medicine.

[Fields_of_Tron]

Fuck Heather Wade.  Of all the qualified individuals that have the chops and background in radio who can talk to any guest and handle them professionally, who possess vast amounts of knowledge...THIS ASSHOLE PICKS AN OBSESSED FAN TO TAKE HIS SEAT.
If she had any integrity, she'd hand that mic over to someone who deserves it.  Someone who has dedicated their life to radio, not just being a fan.  Someone similar to Art that can relate to ANY guest, no matter what background that guest possesses.

I like you Art, but fuck you for constantly defending that amateur that has taken your seat.   Her show will not last.  You can only run so long on donations and minimal ad revenue before you pack your bags and take off.   A fucking obsessed fan.  What a fucking joke.  She's boring like cardboard.  Heck, a cardboard cut out of Art would be more enticing and possess more knowledge of radio than Heather Wade.

MITD sucks ass now.

[MV/Liberace!]

If the replacement host was just good, [never mind very good], people would not be so pissed off
, pointing out basic luck of skills /that horrible*Heather has plenty of/, ...people would just enjoy the show.

unlike me, you're presenting opinion as fact.  what evidence is there to suggest you're right?  all i see is a trail of replacement hosts, each of whom were widely panned following art's departure.  "just as good" or "very good" are entirely subjective.  the only thing that isn't subjective is the fact that a host replacing art isn't art.

[theONE]

Anyone have a link to where the interview was posted (or is it even posted yet) ?

it is here:

http://www.ufoship.com/

"Radio legend Art Bell appears for over two hours, and we cover all the bases."

[onan]

An expert's recommendation for one to seek counseling is potentially a most loving act.  If heeded, it could restore happiness to one or many.  If only remembered, it becomes a seed that might be acted upon in the future.  Believe me, sometimes unvarnished bluntness is the best 'suspension' for difficult medicine.

I started there, I was dismissed.

[Philosopher]

Fuck Heather Wade.  Of all the qualified individuals that have the chops and background in radio who can talk to any guest and handle them professionally, who possess vast amounts of knowledge...THIS ASSHOLE PICKS AN OBSESSED FAN TO TAKE HIS SEAT.
If she had any integrity, she'd hand that mic over to someone who deserves it.  Someone who has dedicated their life to radio, not just being a fan.  Someone similar to Art that can relate to ANY guest, no matter what background that guest possesses.

I like you Art, but fuck you for constantly defending that amateur that has taken your seat.   Her show will not last.  You can only run so long on donations and minimal ad revenue before you pack your bags and take off.   A fucking obsessed fan.  What a fucking joke.  She's boring like cardboard.  Heck, a cardboard cut out of Art would be more enticing and possess more knowledge of radio than Heather Wade.

MITD sucks ass now.

Someone gave this guy a chance.

[Lilith]

i'm not saying heather is a seasoned pro or that she's beyond critique, but i do believe the audience would have reacted similarly with any replacement host.  just my opinion, and i could be totally wrong.

Well, yeah, if just "being one of us" is the basic criteria for praise and encouragement from the bellgabbers. Heck, if that's the case, Mr Fidget can do the job.
If I lose my Turbo Mode for saying so, then so be it, but there are at least three bellgabbers that I can think of that I would have been THRILLED to see take that spot.  Honestly, I think at this point, it's the "paranormal only" environment of the DMDN that is its own worst enemy.  Not Art, Not Heather, Not any host in particular.  Art was always a guy that took on whatever was in the forefront of peoples minds from one day to the next, and sticking him in a "paranormal box" kind of made his show boring in my most humble opinion.

None the less, it's Not MV's fault.  MV probably thought about what he thought would be the most honorable way to handle a gabcast with Art, and stuck to it. So for that at least, I say:

Praise MV!

[Roswells, Art]

Wow, nice picture.

[DarKPenguiN]

it is here:

http://www.ufoship.com/

"Radio legend Art Bell appears for over two hours, and we cover all the bases."

Thank you good Sir.

[gabrielle]

Wow, nice picture.

That is a nice picture....does anyone else see a resemblance to SV?  Or do my eyes deceive me?

[Value Of Pi]

Someone posted this on /x/ last night and I agree with it.

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I just realized that Art will never hire someone to fill in who could do the job justice. It's an ego thing.
That old narcissistic cuck wants someone exactly like Amateur Hour Girl Noory so he doesn't have anyone to compete with for attention. He's really using her so he can do nothing, but still be the king, because he knows people compare him with her and want him back. He's always going to keep his retards on a string, thinking he'll return while never stepping aside for someone with talent. He's afraid. Also explains why he got Hoagland to follow him and not a hungry young turk.

This is not only possible, but extremely likely. It happens all the time whenever a boss hires a less qualified candidate for a position just to avoid the competition and possible threat to their position and/or ego. I don't think it happens quite as often or as obviously in the acting/performing area because it is nearly impossible to cover up or sustain.

Art is attempting to defy gravity. Unless he is using alien technology, it's not going to work.

[DarKPenguiN]

Fuck Heather Wade.  Of all the qualified individuals that have the chops and background in radio who can talk to any guest and handle them professionally, who possess vast amounts of knowledge...THIS ASSHOLE PICKS AN OBSESSED FAN TO TAKE HIS SEAT.
If she had any integrity, she'd hand that mic over to someone who deserves it.  Someone who has dedicated their life to radio, not just being a fan.  Someone similar to Art that can relate to ANY guest, no matter what background that guest possesses.

I like you Art, but fuck you for constantly defending that amateur that has taken your seat.   Her show will not last.  You can only run so long on donations and minimal ad revenue before you pack your bags and take off.   A fucking obsessed fan.  What a fucking joke.  She's boring like cardboard.  Heck, a cardboard cut out of Art would be more enticing and possess more knowledge of radio than Heather Wade.

MITD sucks ass now.

I have no idea how bad Heather is because ive not listened to her- Ever... But why blame her for taking the opportunity and at least giving it her all. If I were in that position I wouldnt quit but rather would do everything possible to at least try and make it work. I wouldnt give up until the mic was taken from me.

If anyone is to blame its Art for putting her there and Keith (or whoever) for keeping her there. Not her for staying there. What does she have to possibly lose? Didnt she already quit her job or something? I would say any anger at heather is misplaced if it stems from her continuing to show up and do her job (for good or ill)... For other reasons like the bateman  incident, I can at least understand but not for merely showing up for work even if she sucks. I would say it takes integrity to show up and do your job while everyone is saying you suck because you were thrown into the lions den.

[onan]

Well, yeah, if just "being one of us" is the basic criteria for praise and encouragement from the bellgabbers. Heck, if that's the case, Mr Fidget can do the job.
If I lose my Turbo Mode for saying so, then so be it, but there are at least three bellgabbers that I can think of that I would have been THRILLED to see take that spot.  Honestly, I think at this point, it's the "paranormal only" environment of the DMDN that is its own worst enemy.  Not Art, Not Heather, Not any host in particular.  Art was always a guy that took on whatever was in the forefront of peoples minds from one day to the next, and sticking him in a "paranormal box" kind of made his show boring in my most humble opinion.

None the less, it's Not MV's fault.  MV probably thought about what he thought would be the most honorable way to handle a gabcast with Art, and stuck to it. So for that at least, I say:

Praise MV!

Since we are all speculating about Art's motivations, this thing began as a "hopeful" adventure to get an interview with Art Bell. Aldous was the instigator. After speaking by phone Art agreed to an interview. From what I understand, Heather really did her homework. She also invested in equipment to interview in a professional manner. Aldous and Heather then traveled to Pahrump. Art must have seen (please no jokes) some talent there. Perhaps he also got to know more about Heather and thought it might be a good idea to help her in her endeavors. I would be willing to bet at the time there was no thought about other people at Bellgab taking Art's spot. So, the show starts up and Heather was there.

I get being angry at Art. I get that people want to listen to Art. Right now listening to Art live isn't an option, it may never be again. There are a fuck ton of other shows to listen to. To even suggest that others were cheated out of the limelight because of Heather is in my point of view, ridiculous, even if I am wrong, when has life ever been fair in everyone's perspective?

[theONE]

unlike me, you're presenting opinion as fact.  what evidence is there to suggest you're right?  all i see is a trail of replacement hosts, each of whom were widely panned following art's departure.  "just as good" or "very good" are entirely subjective.  the only thing that isn't subjective is the fact that a host replacing art isn't art.

if there was a host that wouldn't have so many flaws as Heather has,
people would not notice them,..people would not pay attention to them because they
would not be there to notice it,
..in Heather's case that's what irritates the listener's ears when listening to her.

Instead of concentrating on the show, on the topic, on the guests, with hosts of Heather's caliber
people get distracted with amature quality of the host.

That's all.

[Dr Who]

Heres my problem.MV Last Year said that Keith Roland was a shit then when the interview with Keith was done and he could get one of the programes back on his network MV said oh he wasnt that bad.Four Podcasts back MV SAYS IF ART COMES BACK I WILL TAKE THE ATTITUDE(OH WELL) I am proud to say I have always stuck by Art and by Redacted .I get you want to make money MV but your turning into Ed Dames. Man who sit on fence get splinters in ass.

[Lilith]

Since we are all speculating about Art's motivations, this thing began as a "hopeful" adventure to get an interview with Art Bell. Aldous was the instigator. After speaking by phone Art agreed to an interview. From what I understand, Heather really did her homework. She also invested in equipment to interview in a professional manner. Aldous and Heather then traveled to Pahrump. Art must have seen (please no jokes) some talent there. Perhaps he also got to know more about Heather and thought it might be a good idea to help her in her endeavors. I would be willing to bet at the time there was no thought about other people at Bellgab taking Art's spot. So, the show starts up and Heather was there.

I get being angry at Art. I get that people want to listen to Art. Right now listening to Art live isn't an option, it may never be again. There are a fuck ton of other shows to listen to. To even suggest that others were cheated out of the limelight because of Heather is in my point of view, ridiculous, even if I am wrong, when has life ever been fair in everyone's perspective?

In my own mind onan, I was speaking about the part where Art indicated that he expected better from bellgabbers toward Heather since she was "one of us" and the concept that by THAT definition, ANY of us bellgabbers could have filled Arts spot.  Yes, even Mr Fidget.

[Ciardelo]

if there was a host that wouldn't have so many flaws as George has,
people would not notice them,..people would not pay attention to them because they
would not be there to notice it,
..in George's case that's what irritates the listener's ears when listening to her.

Instead of concentrating on the show, on the topic, on the guests, with hosts of George's caliber
people get distracted with amature quality of the host.

That's all.

Yeah, that's what's wrong with George sNoory all right. George Noory Sucks.