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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

Chronaut

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
I bet he won't even share. :( His generation is the worst with FU got mine mentality. SHARE YOUR POPCORN ART!

Hmmm...Art never said he had popcorn...yet all American men eat popcorn...ergo:  he's a LIAR!  That fucker owes us, dammit!  Who's got torches and pitchforks?  We'll get that goddamn popcorn!!

Catsmile

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:26:58 PM


Uhm, no.  Your making an allegation of fraud - that's a positive not a negative.  Your side of this debate has nothing but innuendo and subjective interpretations of circumstantial evidence to substantiate that charge, which is worthless.  If there was a reasonable case to be made for fraud, it went out the window when the Sheriff's Office posted the reports online.  That's actual evidence, and it trumps the "rumor mill."  Thanks for playing.

^ See previous comments.  All of the actual evidence confirms the story.  No actual evidence contradicts it.  Unsubstantiated suspicions do not constitute evidence.  Simple.


Damn - your post just rendered mine redundant.  Good to see you again Stardust Ancestor, and your dead horse too ;

Where are MY allegations?
What am I alleging?
You seem to be lumping me in with others.

KING ME... AGAIN.

Quote from: norland2424 on January 02, 2016, 10:28:56 PM
only trump can save this great nation !!!

I hope the Republicans nominate him so bad! It's such a winning strategy to alienate and motivate the exact demographics that pushed Obama to landslide victories lol.

Philosopher

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:32:56 PM
Hmmm...Art never said he had popcorn...yet all American men eat popcorn...ergo:  he's a LIAR!  That fucker owes us, dammit!  Who's got torches and pitchforks?  We'll get that goddamn popcorn!!

He only said he was "hanging up" the popcorn, not eating it.

Philosopher

Quote from: Freyja on January 02, 2016, 10:32:55 PM
That's about all that is left, isn't it?

Yes.  the rest is all a figment of our imaginations.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
I bet he won't even share. :( His generation is the worst with FU got mine mentality. SHARE YOUR POPCORN ART!

You have made my day. You restored my faith in knowing I fully understand...


SHARE YOUR POPCORN ART!

Says the communist manifesto...

And the generation that doesn't actually want to work for their own popcorn...

Freyja

Quote from: Philosopher on January 02, 2016, 10:34:53 PM
He only said he was "hanging up" the popcorn, not eating it.

+111111   

LMAO.

Chronaut

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
The bitches say there was no proof there WAS a stalker -- so maybe they can offer proof there WASN'T a stalker? That sword cuts both ways bitches.

PROVE there WAS no STALKER. Or shutthefuckup.

Quote from: Catsmile on January 02, 2016, 09:14:19 PM
Man, we gotta watch out for that phrodo, hes brilliant. In his own mind, at least.
He wants to shift the burden of proof on us, by asking us to prove a negative.
In his mind hes playing a bloody brilliant game of chess.
Sadly it's a poorly played game of checkers.
Nigga, please. <Sigh>

Quote from: Catsmile on January 02, 2016, 10:33:07 PM
Where are MY allegations?
What am I alleging?
You seem to be lumping me in with others.

Hrmm...I thought you were with the "us" who allege that Art's stalker story is fraudulent.  No?   :o

Philosopher

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
I hope the Republicans nominate him so bad! It's such a winning strategy to alienate and motivate the exact demographics that pushed Obama to landslide victories lol.

I agree that a Trump nomination will guarantee that old Bill will be back in the White house with a box of White Owl cigars in one hand and a little blue dress detector in the other. 

Chronaut

Quote from: Philosopher on January 02, 2016, 10:34:53 PM
He only said he was "hanging up" the popcorn, not eating it.

Drat!  Who wants unpopped kernels anyway...well I guess we'll have to wait until he's ready to eat it, then we'll show him:  that fucker owes us!


Quote from: GravitySucks on January 02, 2016, 10:36:16 PM
You have made my day. You restored my faith in knowing I fully understand...


SHARE YOUR POPCORN ART!

Says the communist manifesto...

And the generation that doesn't actually want to work for their own popcorn...

I was going to make a snappy come back but then I remembered Airyn probably doesn't work. :(

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
I bet he won't even share. :( His generation is the worst with FU got mine mentality. SHARE YOUR POPCORN ART!

I'm sure he'll ignore the ageism; every generation does it.

Philosopher

Quote from: malachi.martini on January 02, 2016, 10:40:34 PM
prove he popped those kernels.

Sorry, the popping was only documented, not reported.

Chronaut

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
I hope the Republicans nominate him so bad! It's such a winning strategy to alienate and motivate the exact demographics that pushed Obama to landslide victories lol.

True...but I wonder if even that abortion of American politics would suffice to catapult Sanders into office....hmmm...

Freyja

Quote from: Philosopher on January 02, 2016, 10:42:17 PM
Sorry, the popping was only documented, not reported.

What's wrong with you?!?!? ...don't know know that all he has to do is say he popped it!!!! :P ;) and/or that it was popping!

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:42:27 PM
True...but I wonder if even that abortion of American politics would suffice to catapult Sanders into office....hmmm...

Well Republicans tried to call Obama a Socialist, and that worked out okay as far as the election went, so myswell run the actual Socialist this time lol.

Doomed

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 02, 2016, 09:32:38 PM
Paper Boy, are you or a boy or a girl? Because, if you're a boy, what's with all this bitch talk? To me, you couldn't be a bitch (unless maybe you're in prison); you'd have to be the male version, IOW a bastard. I must be missing something, as in "You're missing something, alright."

Easy now. PB is a funny mofo. Lighten up, will you? Ive been reading this board for a long while. 2 maybe 3 years?) Even posted a time or two. About 2 weeks ago a friend alerted me to Bells return to radio. Naturally, this was my first stop. And what do I find? Art is gone. Again. Hell, I wasn't even aware he had played on Sirius. After reading here, I believe Im up to speed. (Either that or Ive stumbled across a lynching) Im not pointing a finger at Art, or anyone else for his departure. Shit happens. But, if you look at his career, it is amazing what the old boy has been through. The whole C2C fiasco. All the crud from the ham radio "show", Sirius, and now this. Many of you are all puckered that this latest show has gone away. You, me, we all have missed the point. Arts life is the show. And its still happening as I type this. The radio thing is just part of the act. Its all a huge production designed to keep the kiddies occupied. And we are, aren't we? I see noory is still on. Hows he doing? Still selling HGH to shut-ins?

Quote from: Freyja on January 02, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
What's wrong with you?!?!? ...don't know know that all he has to do is say he popped it!!!! :P ;)

POPCORN TRUTHER.

phrodo

I say all those who say Art is lying are lying. Do I have to prove anything? By their logic (or lack thereof) nope, not an iota. Case closed.

Philosopher

Trump is a direct product of Obama's legacy, in the same way Carter set the stage for a Reagan win.  Instead of taking a more reasoned response in the primary many people are looking for the polar opposite of Obama, thinking this will create political equilibrium.

The "Liar" would be terrible for every aspect of this country, but Trump would be very troublesome as he will probably convert his "un-candidate" campaign strategy into an "un-presidency". 

Sorry, no more politics...

Chronaut

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 02, 2016, 10:45:01 PM
Well Republicans tried to call Obama a Socialist, and that worked out okay as far as the election went, so myswell run the actual Socialist this time lol.

From your Sith lips to God's ear, Darth Sandra.

I worry that Hillary might short-circuit if Putin takes her alligator wrestling - they haven't quite gotten the waterproofing right on the Nexus 6 line.  And I'm pretty sure that Jamie Dimon holds the kill switch for all of the other candidates as well.

DeltaBravo

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 10:50:40 PM
I say all those who say Art is lying are lying. Do I have to prove anything? By their logic (or lack thereof) nope, not an iota. Case closed.
Art Lied.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Doomed on January 02, 2016, 10:46:54 PM
Easy now. PB is a funny mofo. Lighten up, will you? Ive been reading this board for a long while. 2 maybe 3 years?) Even posted a time or two. About 2 weeks ago a friend alerted me to Bells return to radio. Naturally, this was my first stop. And what do I find? Art is gone. Again. Hell, I wasn't even aware he had played on Sirius. After reading here, I believe Im up to speed. (Either that or Ive stumbled across a lynching) Im not pointing a finger at Art, or anyone else for his departure. Shit happens. But, if you look at his career, it is amazing what the old boy has been through. The whole C2C fiasco. All the crud from the ham radio "show", Sirius, and now this. Many of you are all puckered that this latest show has gone away. You, me, we all have missed the point. Arts life is the show. And its still happening as I type this. The radio thing is just part of the act. Its all a huge production designed to keep the kiddies occupied. And we are, aren't we? I see noory is still on. Hows he doing? Still selling HGH to shut-ins?

You've got to read the exchange he was having with the other poster. I didn't call him that. I just wondered why he kept getting called that. Do I really need emoticons that bad?

Philosopher

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:53:36 PM
From your Sith lips to God's ear, Darth Sandra.

I worry that Hillary might short-circuit if Putin takes her alligator wrestling - they haven't quite gotten the waterproofing right on the Nexus 6 line.  And I'm pretty sure that Jamie Dimon holds the kill switch for all of the other candidates as well.

Your avatar is giving me a headache.  Stop it.


DeltaBravo

Quote from: Philosopher on January 02, 2016, 10:56:52 PM
And then he got back up.
Right, and then he called Heather and she called the sheriff? Is that the story?

Element 115

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:26:58 PM
You're right.  They'll move onto the next online outrage in due time.  And I'll still be a fan when this all blows over, so hopefully the OGs will find their way back and we can get back to adroit witticisms and benevolent needling.  Good times.

I didn't drop in after the Sirius debacle - it sounds like you're saying that a minority of noisy negativists helped to end the show.  That's a disturbing thought.  I am baffled that Art often seems to focus on the people making the most banal and wicked statements against him.  I think it's wiser to take some pride in the fact that the worst kind of people have it in for you:  the low character of your enemies says as much about you as the high character of your allies.

I don't think I agree with your assessment of his relationship with his fan base though.  It's always seemed to me that he enjoys engaging his fans, as he's done here in the past, and during open lines.  I get the feeling that it's one of the ways he gets his "social fix," as more and more of us are doing these days with the rise of social media and the fall of face-to-face social interactions.  The problem though is that with open lines, he was reaching his actual listeners, but here online every asshole who enjoys a bad scene is drawn to controversy like flies to poop.  Only when the stink blows over is this place a haven for his long-time listeners.

Haha, thanks dan7800 ;  Yeah I think Heather would be the first to celebrate if he came back to the show.  And I'd enjoy seeing the change of atmosphere around here if that happened.  I'm not very hopeful about it right now, because Art and Heather got so slimed here that he must be wondering why he even bothered to come back.  But perhaps once he feels safe again, he'll miss the fascinating and friendly chats he had with guests like Dr. David Darling.

I'm not a psychotherapist, so I don't know what people are "supposed to act like" in his position.  But I think that if you expect him to post shadowy pictures of him hiding in a basement with his family, illuminated by the faltering light of their last candle because they're too terrified to leave the house to go buy more, then I'd presume your expectations are unreasonable.

Intimately.  In this case, we have Art's story which is supported by the live broadcasts during the events and in their wake over a span of months, and the police reports posted by the Nye County Sheriff's Office which also confirm his story.  Then we have the alternate theory that it was all an elaborate ruse which, by necessity, would require a conspiracy with the Sheriff's Office to perpetrate a fraud, with no motive other than "Art couldn't just tell people he wanted to stop doing the show" - a theory for which no supporting evidence exists.

So yes, Occam's razor asserts that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and that we've been told the truth is a simpler explanation than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory perpetrated for no compelling reason at all.


Nooooooo!  We're back to that again.  Dammit.


Uhm, no.  You're making an allegation of fraud - that's a positive not a negative.  Your side of this debate has nothing but innuendo and subjective interpretations of circumstantial evidence to substantiate that charge, which is worthless.  If there was a reasonable case to be made for fraud, it went out the window when the Sheriff's Office posted the reports online.  That's actual evidence, and it trumps the "rumor mill."  Thanks for playing.

^ See previous comments.  All of the actual evidence confirms the story.  No actual evidence contradicts it.  Unsubstantiated suspicions do not constitute evidence.  Simple.


Damn - your post just rendered mine redundant.  Good to see you again Stardust Ancestor, and your dead horse too ;

Thanks, good to see you too! Happy 2016 ol' chap! lol

Catsmile

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 10:37:27 PM
Hrmm...I thought you were with the "us" who allege that Art's stalker story is fraudulent.  No?   :o

No. I'm with ME. And call stupid out sometimes, when I'm bored. The burden of proof is always on the person making the claims. I make no claims. Art has made some claims however. Shifting the burden of proof and/or demanding proof of a negative is always a fools errand, in a debate. Such tactics prove that your opponent has a weak argument, or no argument at all.

Why would I waste my time second guessing and speculating about Arts story? I don't need to prove anything. Arts actions speak volumes. His actions are the proof.

KING ME.

pyewacket

Now I'm just going on what I've been told, but I heard that Art did hire a security team but they didn't work out. Their elaborate maneuvers ended up attracting more people to his place instead of scaring them off. The locals haven't stopped talking about 'them there fancy fellas line dancing at Art's place.'
They still have some footage to remember them by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB5g2iQGlvQ


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