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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

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Quote from: dan7800 on January 02, 2016, 06:58:04 PM
Let the trolls blow by and in a month or so, we will be back to peace and reason.
or at least the bellgab version of that.

dan7800

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
If I were in his shoes I'd almost certainly feel that way.  First the creepy and escalating incidents at his home, then the tsunami of hateful and unsubstantiated paranoid sentiments expressed here, including the despicable mention of past personal horrors in some warped attempt to impugn his character.  If I saw my "fan base" going after me like that in the midst of a scary crisis, getting back on the air would be far from a priority.

I hadn't really thought about it before, but given the total lack of credible evidence that Art has ever lied to his audience, I suppose I do believe everything he's told us.  I'm a skeptic; skeptics follow the evidence, and the evidence we have establishes a very compelling case for honesty in Art's statements.  I was kinda surprised that the suspicious "conspiracy camp" couldn't offer anything persuasive to make their case - you'd think that 20+ years of talk radio would've offered plenty of dubious fresh meat for the jackals to lunch on.  So I suppose it's fair to question the man's choices, but at least he's honest.

It seemed perfectly clear to me that Heather simply stepped in to save the show, to buy Art some time to work things out and get back to the mic.  There were perhaps also other business-related reasons for doing so, like having a job rather than suddenly being out of work.  People who seem to think she's happy about any of this, that this has been "fun" for her, are dreaming, imo.  Jumping on the mic with basically no notice to face a lynch mob of furious fans slinging accusations all over the place, facing an avalanche of no-holds-barred criticism directed at her personally, having hecklers calling in just to be dicks - it's difficult to imagine a job that I'd want less than the one she's doing now to keep this embattled enterprise together.

I think it's bizarre and eerie that nobody seems to give a shit that the man has been faced with shots fired at his home, and had every reason to fear for his life during the last incident.  Wtf is the matter with people?  Ok sure it's a bummer that he bowed out so suddenly, but that hardly compares with some armed freak terrifying you from the shadows at random moments.

People seem to be almost unanimously blaming Art for what's happened, but why isn't anyone angry at the real culprit here:  the armed psycho who caused all of this?

I hear a lot of baseless speculation that Art just didn't want to do the show, and this was some kind of elaborate rouse, or perhaps was merely an opportune excuse to bow out.  But he's never needed an "excuse" to do that before.  If he hadn't wanted to continue, he would've just said so.  All the conspiracy stuff reminds of that old saying "if you hear hoofbeats in Central Park, think 'horses' not 'zebras.'"


A well stated, rational post..... There's no need for that here anymore.

In all seriousness, I agree. I think Heather is doing ok, but she obviously didn't want this, especially quite yet. If she was thinking about stepping in, why didn't she do weekends/guest shows for Art?

The Art of the 90's talking about Windows 95 is not coming back.

Freyja

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 06:24:20 PM


Stating "the obvious" isn't a "blind spot" or "hole in my logic," so you would have to specify one before moving on to "other blind spots and holes in [my] logic."  The problem I keep seeing is this discussion it that the people who don't believe Art's story (and you seem to be implying that you're in that camp), only have suspicions and circumstantial arguments to offer.  But facts are another matter altogether.  I'm always willing to let new facts change my mind.

Really...no hole or blind spot in your logic?

You say you are looking for facts.

Let me ask that you show us the facts that there actually IS a stalker.

The police don't feel that any further investigation is warranted. Art hasn't added any security measures, seems to be going on with his life in the same residence etc.

So you must have some facts that neither the police do or the rest of us know or are privy to.

Please, indulge us...what are your facts? 


Freyja

Quote from: Robert on January 02, 2016, 02:18:47 PM
Because the phone call said they'd all be killed if Art went on the air.  The converse would seem to follow, especially since there were limitless chances to murder them all long ago.



So I guess that's why Art went back on the air less than 24 hours after announcing he "hung up the mic" with Heather Wade and took control of that show for a good portion of it....yup...guess Art NOT being on the Air was the solution to his and his family's safety.

Barfly

It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .

norland2424

Quote from: Barfly on January 02, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .

it all boils down to mental illnesses buddy

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Barfly on January 02, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .

In general, this is a terrific argument and a wonderful philosophy. The problem is, you're stating it on BellGab and you don't account for that at all. You've got to tailor this speech to the audience you're addressing or expect it to fall flat. Tough to do because this is a tough audience.

Freyja

Quote from: Barfly on January 02, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .

I hear you Barfly and you're right...I agree.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself.

What I object to this time around is that I feel Art is trying to play us all as sycophant fools and those of us who see this latest whatever it was, have every right to call him on it...that's all.

There a plethora of good podcasts out there to listen to without Art being on the airwaves.

I enjoyed some of his MITD programs, however as others have said, something was just missing the mark.

It is sad that after 2 + decades that it had to end this way, however life goes on, it's a spanking brand new year and we live on a beautiful planet, so let's just enjoy each moment and move on....until of course Art yanks that chain again, which I have no doubt he will do.

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
... some armed freak terrifying you from the shadows at random moments...

Other than quitting the show and offering up a wild story, has Art acted in any way like that is what's been going on?

trostol

Quote from: Barfly on January 02, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .

i am not sure what your getting at...is it a ...radio show? lol

Quote from: Chronaut on January 02, 2016, 06:24:20 PM
Apparently not, because it seems that this is precisely what's happened, and the primary reaction has been outrage and wild allegations hurled at the man...

Are you familiar with Occam's razor?

ItsOver

Quote from: Barfly on January 02, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
It's just a radio show.  ;)

Exactly , in the end will life change dramatically if you cant hear Art?
It was Arts decision to put Heather in, it was also his decision to leave many times, if you dont like it WHY do you even follow?
People create drama just for the sake of drama, if i dont like to listen to something i DON'T LISTEN.
FFS i was pissed off when some bands broke up or got new members but if i didn't like the new members i just didn't listen.
I dont really understand what all the fuss is about, you have 100's of other podcasts like Arts now, if he doesn't want to do it anymore fine.
Move on with life people, like Ciardelo stated, its a fuckin radio show, the planet is still spinning, we will be fine .
"That's true!  You'll ALWAYS have me!"



Value Of Pi

Quote from: trostol on January 02, 2016, 08:08:59 PM
i am not sure what your getting at...is it a ...radio show? lol

Uh huh, uh huh. I rest my case, Barfly. This is, un fact, BellGab. Ooh, what a timely typo.

ItsOver

Quote from: norland2424 on January 02, 2016, 08:21:53 PM

"Where are yeeewww go'in?  I wuz gonna make pizza rolls."

munbeam666

Quote from: ItsOver on January 02, 2016, 08:12:13 PM
"That's true!  You'll ALWAYS have me!"


This might be a pleasant alternative to Coast to Coast:
http://www.kgraradio.com/

phrodo

Geezus Chrysler .. this place is still a cesspool of butthurt bitches whining that Art is a liar -- without merit, claiming that Art was lying evidently because nobody in Art's family was killed .. or basically such. Oh - he posted a couple of photos that showed they are trying to maintain a normal life -- SHAME ON ART for that.  ::) T

The bitches say there was no proof there WAS a stalker -- so maybe they can offer proof there WASN'T a stalker? That sword cuts both ways bitches.

PROVE there WAS no STALKER. Or shutthefuckup.

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
... PROVE there WAS no STALKER. Or shutthefuckup.

Or what?

phrodo

Quote from: munbeam666 on January 02, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
This might be a pleasant alternative to Coast to Coast:
http://www.kgraradio.com/

KGRA has a nice looking site .. light-years slicker than DMDN. Seems to have a somewhat decent roster of shows too. Maybe Art's next comeback can ... aww -- nevermind.  :P

phrodo

Quote from: Paper*Boy on January 02, 2016, 08:35:43 PM
Or what?

Evidently you can't read. Got proof? Evidently not .. so shutthefuckup. Bitch.

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 08:37:34 PM
Evidently you can't read. Got proof? Evidently not .. so shutthefuckup. Bitch.

How about you worry about your own posts

phrodo

Quote from: Paper*Boy on January 02, 2016, 08:41:40 PM
How about you worry about your own posts

I have no worries whatsover with mine .. you on the other hand seem to blither and project often in yours. Maybe it's time for you to start another cartoon thread? You seem to do your best work on paper .. boy. I once had a puppy that did that too ... then he grew up.

Got proof? Bitch?

Value Of Pi

Cesspool is strong language. I'm just not smelling that tonight. I don't think nasal spray would change that, either.

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
I have no worries whatsover with mine...

Your posts are boring and forgettable.  You might want to work on that instead of dictating what others should be posting.

Quote from: phrodo on January 02, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
... you on the other hand seem to blither and project often in yours..

I think what really bothers you is what your hero turned out to be.

Robert

Quote from: Freyja on January 02, 2016, 07:38:08 PMThe police don't feel that any further investigation is warranted.
That's probably true, because what leads could you follow?  There aren't likely to be any.  If an order was gotten to trace phone records re the threatening call, it would not be smart to publish the results or even if such a trace was obtained.  The likeliest way such a case would be solved would be for the solution to materialize as in the Unabomber case, which didn't involve investig'n.
QuoteArt hasn't added any security measures,
He augmented the video & motion-detector-switched lights he already had around his property.

phrodo

Quote from: Paper*Boy on January 02, 2016, 08:55:27 PM
Your posts are boring and forgettable.  You might want to work on that instead of dictating what others should be posting.

I think what really bothers you is what your hero turned out to be.

Odd .. you have trouble with and keep replying to my posts if they're so "forgettable" -- but I realize logic is not your forte. I don't dictate shit bitch -- I'm just sick of brainless, butt-hurt cunts like you endlessly kvetching that Art's lying without showing ANY proof that he did. Deflecting the issue while not addressing the issue is what I would expect from your ilk.

Again ... and I'm typing this REAL slow so you can read and *hopefully* understand it this time -- PROVE Art lied. Bitch.


Catsmile

Man, we gotta watch out for that phrodo, hes brilliant. In his own mind, at least.
He wants to shift the burden of proof on us, by asking us to prove a negative.
In his mind hes playing a bloody brilliant game of chess.
Sadly it's a poorly played game of checkers.
Nigga, please. <Sigh>
EDIT: King me




Robert

Quote from: Freyja on January 02, 2016, 07:43:58 PMSo I guess that's why Art went back on the air less than 24 hours after announcing he "hung up the mic" with Heather Wade and took control of that show for a good portion of it....yup...guess Art NOT being on the Air was the solution to his and his family's safety.
We don't know if Art's antagonist even knows MITD exists, let alone listens to it.  All he may know is that this guy who has those ant. towers on his property was going every weeknight into the guest house, presumably to go on the air.  We don't know the wording of the phone convers'n.

Value Of Pi

Wait, I'm getting a whiff of something. Still doesn't deserve to be called a cesspool. Opening a window would probably take care of the problem. Maybe a fan set on medium would do it.

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