Art Bell

[whoozit]

I sure am glad I don't live in most of your heads.

[Sean92008]

Is AB"s HAM radio in the studio building and has he been on it lately?

[ItsOver]

Looking at all the comebacks and the seemingly inevitable bailouts, I wonder if this isn't a factor.

http://youtu.be/-wtYGZt7aI4

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

Is AB"s HAM radio in the studio building and has he been on it lately?

The stalker said it was okay for Art to use the ham radio.

[CRM 114]

As the glory of what could have been fades off into the tweaker infested gloom of a dusty Pahrump night...I have one last question..is he still out there on shortwave? Would that be a technical violation of the Stalker's demands?

One also ponders the irony of a pro gun guy shutting his career down over a guy with a gun.....

[K_Dubb]

Looking at all the comebacks and the seemingly inevitable bailouts, I wonder if this isn't a factor.

http://youtu.be/-wtYGZt7aI4

In the case of grand passions, such as Art's for radio, this is surely the case.

For more mundane ones, such as mine for Art, I assure you that I'd be quite contented if he returned Monday.

[ItsOver]

The stalker said it was okay for Art to use the ham radio.

Hah!  Along with walks in the desert and grocery runs.  At least the stalker isn't completely unreasonable.  Maybe he issues hall passes.

[Yorkshire pud]

Hah!  Along with walks in the desert and grocery runs.  At least the stalker isn't completely unreasonable.  Maybe he issues hall passes.

Why wouldn't he?

[ItsOver]

Why wouldn't he?

Sure, why not.  Even these guys could be reasonable.

[Yorkshire pud]

Sure, why not.  Even these guys could be reasonable.

Those are not the short wave radio transmitters you're looking for.

[wr250]

Sure, why not.  Even these guys could be reasonable.

[ItsOver]

[Chronaut]

So to those that actually believes that Art is 100% honest this time.. Can you please answer why he is not putting even a tiny bit of effort into saving what is left with MITD?? They have now pretty much lost all affiliates and network is in danger of collapsing. How could he not expect this to happen? And when he saw the collapse happening, then why the heck can he not host the show one or twice a day in a random day of the week??
He claimed he could no longer do the show because of stalker knowing his schedule and that he might be back later doing at least guest spots but yet he refuses to do that just now when the show needs it the most.

The fact is that even if Heather was the most talented talk show host in the world, she would never ever have gotten the chance as she is basically unknown. The reason why people like George Noory was able to take over c2c was because he was still hosting part time and slowly got the listeners and affiliates used to the change.

I really feel sorry for Keith and Heather being left in this sinking ship.

I'm guessing that the strength of the reaction to his departure (questioning his veracity, cutting off subscriptions, abusing Heather) has turned him against the endeavor.  We are not worthy of his attention.

If I were in his shoes I'd almost certainly feel that way.  First the creepy and escalating incidents at his home, then the tsunami of hateful and unsubstantiated paranoid sentiments expressed here, including the despicable mention of past personal horrors in some warped attempt to impugn his character.  If I saw my "fan base" going after me like that in the midst of a scary crisis, getting back on the air would be far from a priority.

I hadn't really thought about it before, but given the total lack of credible evidence that Art has ever lied to his audience, I suppose I do believe everything he's told us.  I'm a skeptic; skeptics follow the evidence, and the evidence we have establishes a very compelling case for honesty in Art's statements.  I was kinda surprised that the suspicious "conspiracy camp" couldn't offer anything persuasive to make their case - you'd think that 20+ years of talk radio would've offered plenty of dubious fresh meat for the jackals to lunch on.  So I suppose it's fair to question the man's choices, but at least he's honest.

It seemed perfectly clear to me that Heather simply stepped in to save the show, to buy Art some time to work things out and get back to the mic.  There were perhaps also other business-related reasons for doing so, like having a job rather than suddenly being out of work.  People who seem to think she's happy about any of this, that this has been "fun" for her, are dreaming, imo.  Jumping on the mic with basically no notice to face a lynch mob of furious fans slinging accusations all over the place, facing an avalanche of no-holds-barred criticism directed at her personally, having hecklers calling in just to be dicks - it's difficult to imagine a job that I'd want less than the one she's doing now to keep this embattled enterprise together.

I think it's bizarre and eerie that nobody seems to give a shit that the man has been faced with shots fired at his home, and had every reason to fear for his life during the last incident.  Wtf is the matter with people?  Ok sure it's a bummer that he bowed out so suddenly, but that hardly compares with some armed freak terrifying you from the shadows at random moments.

People seem to be almost unanimously blaming Art for what's happened, but why isn't anyone angry at the real culprit here:  the armed psycho who caused all of this?

I hear a lot of baseless speculation that Art just didn't want to do the show, and this was some kind of elaborate rouse, or perhaps was merely an opportune excuse to bow out.  But he's never needed an "excuse" to do that before.  If he hadn't wanted to continue, he would've just said so.  All the conspiracy stuff reminds of that old saying "if you hear hoofbeats in Central Park, think 'horses' not 'zebras.'"

[DeltaBravo]

As the glory of what could have been fades off into the tweaker infested gloom of a dusty Pahrump night...I have one last question..is he still out there on shortwave? Would that be a technical violation of the Stalker's demands?

One also ponders the irony of a pro gun guy shutting his career down over a guy with a gun.....

+1

[pyewacket]

[MV/Liberace!]

Is that Billy Meier footage?

[wr250]

Is that Billy Meier footage?

looks like it. does sant... err billy meier smoke weed ?

[Robert]

Is AB"s HAM radio in the studio building and has he been on it lately?

My understanding is that it's not, which is why if his "stalker" is bothered by what's coming out of that big antenna, he's wasting his time trying to stop Art from entering the, uh, outhouse.

However, since his sound quality when he Skyped in to Heather's show was good, I'd like to know why some arrangement couldn't be made to allow him to host the show from his house.  Art or [Redacted] might answer this here, if they care to peruse this looooonnnng thread.  Maybe it's worthy of a thread of its own that might be more visible from the front page.

[pyewacket]

looks like it. does sant... err billy meier smoke weed ?

Somebody was...

[wr250]

Somebody was...

takes something stronger than weed to come up with that. im thinking LSD ,shrooms or a certain cactus (that jumps into you according to some).

[GravitySucks]

My understanding is that it's not, which is why if his "stalker" is bothered by what's coming out of that big antenna, he's wasting his time trying to stop Art from entering the, uh, outhouse.

However, since his sound quality when he Skyped in to Heather's show was good, I'd like to know why some arrangement couldn't be made to allow him to host the show from his house.  Art or [Redacted] might answer this here, if they care to peruse this looooonnnng thread.  Maybe it's worthy of a thread of its own that might be more visible from the front page.

Give it a rest Robert. He quit.

[Value Of Pi]

If I were in his shoes I'd almost certainly feel that way.  First the creepy and escalating incidents at his home, then the tsunami of hateful and unsubstantiated paranoid sentiments expressed here, including the despicable mention of past personal horrors in some warped attempt to impugn his character.  If I saw my "fan base" going after me like that in the midst of a scary crisis, getting back on the air would be far from a priority.

I hadn't really thought about it before, but given the total lack of credible evidence that Art has ever lied to his audience, I suppose I do believe everything he's told us.  I'm a skeptic; skeptics follow the evidence, and the evidence we have establishes a very compelling case for honesty in Art's statements.  I was kinda surprised that the suspicious "conspiracy camp" couldn't offer anything persuasive to make their case - you'd think that 20+ years of talk radio would've offered plenty of dubious fresh meat for the jackals to lunch on.  So I suppose it's fair to question the man's choices, but at least he's honest.

It seemed perfectly clear to me that Heather simply stepped in to save the show, to buy Art some time to work things out and get back to the mic.  There were perhaps also other business-related reasons for doing so, like having a job rather than suddenly being out of work.  People who seem to think she's happy about any of this, that this has been "fun" for her, are dreaming, imo.  Jumping on the mic with basically no notice to face a lynch mob of furious fans slinging accusations all over the place, facing an avalanche of no-holds-barred criticism directed at her personally, having hecklers calling in just to be dicks - it's difficult to imagine a job that I'd want less than the one she's doing now to keep this embattled enterprise together.

I think it's bizarre and eerie that nobody seems to give a shit that the man has been faced with shots fired at his home, and had every reason to fear for his life during the last incident.  Wtf is the matter with people?  Ok sure it's a bummer that he bowed out so suddenly, but that hardly compares with some armed freak terrifying you from the shadows at random moments.

People seem to be almost unanimously blaming Art for what's happened, but why isn't anyone angry at the real culprit here:  the armed psycho who caused all of this?

I hear a lot of baseless speculation that Art just didn't want to do the show, and this was some kind of elaborate rouse, or perhaps was merely an opportune excuse to bow out.  But he's never needed an "excuse" to do that before.  If he hadn't wanted to continue, he would've just said so.  All the conspiracy stuff reminds of that old saying "if you hear hoofbeats in Central Park, think 'horses' not 'zebras.'"

Because it goes without saying what we would all feel about anyone harassing Art or threatening his life. Talk about wasting time and energy stating the obvious. There are several other blind spots and holes in your logic and your appraisal of the situation, but I doubt that it would do any good to point them out.

[Jackstar]

I think it's bizarre and eerie that nobody seems to give a shit that the man has been faced with shots fired at his home, and had every reason to fear for his life during the last incident.  Wtf is the matter with people?

Have you heard the one about the boy who cried "wolf "?

[Chronaut]

Because it goes without saying what we would all feel about anyone harassing Art or threatening his life.

Apparently not, because it seems that this is precisely what's happened, and the primary reaction has been outrage and wild allegations hurled at the man.

Talk about wasting time and energy stating the obvious.

A lifetime of experience in America has taught me that nothing is "obvious" here.  Evolution, for example.

There are several other blind spots and holes in your logic and your appraisal of the situation

Stating "the obvious" isn't a "blind spot" or "hole in my logic," so you would have to specify one before moving on to "other blind spots and holes in [my] logic."  The problem I keep seeing is this discussion it that the people who don't believe Art's story (and you seem to be implying that you're in that camp), only have suspicions and circumstantial arguments to offer.  But facts are another matter altogether.  I'm always willing to let new facts change my mind.

[Chronaut]

Have you heard the one about the boy who cried "wolf "?

Yep.  When the wolf actually came, nobody listened.  Apropos, imo.

[Robert]

People seem to be almost unanimously blaming Art for what's happened,

You must be getting an even more biased sample than BellGab.

[Chronaut]

You must be getting an even more biased sample than BellGab.

Not really, though the MITD chat board divesting from the show entirely and rebranding their site within days of his announcement, contributes to my estimation of the "blame camp."  Even most of the people who seem to accept the story as told and the facts that support it, still seem to be blaming Art for not being on the air.  The few who don't, like myself, have been repeatedly accused of "white knighting" and being "sycophants."  Apparently it's unfashionable to let the facts speak for themselves, and simply accept that Art's situation is even crappier than being a disappointed listener.

[Value Of Pi]

Apparently not, because it seems that this is precisely what's happened, and the primary reaction has been outrage and wild allegations hurled at the man.

A lifetime of experience in America has taught me that nothing is "obvious" here.  Evolution, for example.

Stating "the obvious" isn't a "blind spot" or "hole in my logic," so you would have to specify one before moving on to "other blind spots and holes in [my] logic."  The problem I keep seeing is this discussion it that the people who don't believe Art's story (and you seem to be implying that you're in that camp), only have suspicions and circumstantial arguments to offer.  But facts are another matter altogether.  I'm always willing to let new facts change my mind.

First, I do believe what Art has related in terms of what he has experienced, which is not the same thing as believing every part of the story, much of which is theorizing on his or other people's parts. IOW, i do believe that Art saw a black triangle passing over his head, but I can't say if it was aliens.

Second, the blind spot -- one of them, anyway -- is in not seeing the difference between fans with questions and concerns, and trolls (minor or major) who are not fans or even regular listeners. I give the fans the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their feelings about the Pahrump troublemaker. They don't need to say anything to prove them to me.

[dan7800]

Not really, though the MITD chat board divesting from the show entirely and rebranding their site within days of his announcement, contributes to my estimation of the "blame camp."  Even most of the people who seem to accept the story as told and the facts that support it, still seem to be blaming Art for not being on the air.  The few who don't, like myself, have been repeatedly accused of "white knighting" and being "sycophants."  Apparently it's unfashionable to let the facts speak for themselves, and simply accept that Art's situation is even crappier than being a disappointed listener.

Let the trolls blow by and in a month or so, we will be back to peace and reason.

[K_Dubb]

If I were in his shoes I'd almost certainly feel that way.  First the creepy and escalating incidents at his home, then the tsunami of hateful and unsubstantiated paranoid sentiments expressed here, including the despicable mention of past personal horrors in some warped attempt to impugn his character.  If I saw my "fan base" going after me like that in the midst of a scary crisis, getting back on the air would be far from a priority.

I hadn't really thought about it before, but given the total lack of credible evidence that Art has ever lied to his audience, I suppose I do believe everything he's told us.  I'm a skeptic; skeptics follow the evidence, and the evidence we have establishes a very compelling case for honesty in Art's statements.  I was kinda surprised that the suspicious "conspiracy camp" couldn't offer anything persuasive to make their case - you'd think that 20+ years of talk radio would've offered plenty of dubious fresh meat for the jackals to lunch on.  So I suppose it's fair to question the man's choices, but at least he's honest.

It seemed perfectly clear to me that Heather simply stepped in to save the show, to buy Art some time to work things out and get back to the mic.  There were perhaps also other business-related reasons for doing so, like having a job rather than suddenly being out of work.  People who seem to think she's happy about any of this, that this has been "fun" for her, are dreaming, imo.  Jumping on the mic with basically no notice to face a lynch mob of furious fans slinging accusations all over the place, facing an avalanche of no-holds-barred criticism directed at her personally, having hecklers calling in just to be dicks - it's difficult to imagine a job that I'd want less than the one she's doing now to keep this embattled enterprise together.

I think it's bizarre and eerie that nobody seems to give a shit that the man has been faced with shots fired at his home, and had every reason to fear for his life during the last incident.  Wtf is the matter with people?  Ok sure it's a bummer that he bowed out so suddenly, but that hardly compares with some armed freak terrifying you from the shadows at random moments.

People seem to be almost unanimously blaming Art for what's happened, but why isn't anyone angry at the real culprit here:  the armed psycho who caused all of this?

I hear a lot of baseless speculation that Art just didn't want to do the show, and this was some kind of elaborate rouse, or perhaps was merely an opportune excuse to bow out.  But he's never needed an "excuse" to do that before.  If he hadn't wanted to continue, he would've just said so.  All the conspiracy stuff reminds of that old saying "if you hear hoofbeats in Central Park, think 'horses' not 'zebras.'"

I think rather than the sneering P. T. Barnum people imagine he's actually a deeply honest man.  He doesn't trust his fans because he knows their praise isn't warranted for doing something as natural as breathing.  So he plays to his critics, even seeking them out.  The entire Sirius debacle was the victory of a whining minority over the general rejoicing.

We, the uncritical ones who just want him on the radio, don't exist for him other than as a means to an end.  This is normal; solitary genius has always had a difficult, sometimes violent, relationship with patronage.  Should he return again, we will be there like the faceless Maximilians of old to fling our florins at his feet.