Art Bell

[Inglorious Bitch]

The next drama? Starting rumors Art is retiring again?

Oh please! Are we supposed to believe that people signed up for Art's show so that they could listen to Leo? I wonder how many of his FB "posts" are real and how many are sock puppet accounts. Geez.

[shell88]

Oh please! Are we supposed to believe that people signed up for Art's show so that they could listen to Leo? I wonder how many of his FB "posts" are real and how many are sock puppet accounts. Geez.

It's not beyond the competition to orchestrate and start vicious rumours. Easily done. It's been done from here before. I hope Art lets it fizzle out.

[b_dubb]

Oh please! Are we supposed to believe that people signed up for Art's show so that they could listen to Leo? I wonder how many of his FB "posts" are real and how many are sock puppet accounts. Geez.

Exactly. The "news" was there so Art could stretch and have a quick sandbox break. Refill his mug. Marvel at the cray cray coming in through the Wormhole.  No one is going to stop listening. Except for Leo.

[TigerLily]

area51drone - purveyor of unwanted and unsolicited advice

But I will gently and with great respect, add my two cents. Rowland desperately needs to add credit card capability for Time Traveler subscriptions. I've seen lots of posts on Art's Facebook saying they would join if that was an option. I mentioned here right after I joined that it gave me pause before I was willing to dust off the old PayPal account. And you all know I'm an Art fanatic.

Keith not allowing credit cards for Time Traveling is costing Art a lot of revenue. And this will really be a huge loss as all the radio stations come on. I have emailed this suggestion to Keith and will again

[TigerLily]

Oh please! Are we supposed to believe that people signed up for Art's show so that they could listen to Leo? I wonder how many of his FB "posts" are real and how many are sock puppet accounts. Geez.

Yeah. 9 whole likes......mom, dad, bro, sis, grandma, grandpa, made up friends.. Art must be shaking with fear

[BobGrau]

But I will gently and with great respect, add my two cents. Rowland desperately needs to add credit card capability for Time Traveler subscriptions. I've seen lots of posts on Art's Facebook saying they would join if that was an option. I mentioned here right after I joined that it gave me pause before I was willing to dust off the old PayPal account. And you all know I'm an Art fanatic.

Keith not allowing credit cards for Time Traveling is costing Art a lot of revenue. And this will really be a huge loss as all the radio stations come on. I have emailed this suggestion to Keith and will again

Yup. Months later and much bullshit under the belt, and PayPal still refuses to believe I am who I claim to be.

[VegasI15]

Wow, I'm surprised a (mostly) intelligent bunch like this one keeps beating on Leo.  Not that he doesn't deserve some of it.  But calling the guy mentally ill and listing all his symptoms, based solely on some internet posts, is a hasty generalization.  On top of that the incessant chant of "the guy doesn't know how to pronounce anything" is a bit of a stretch.  Really not fact but personal opinions of liking his delivery style or not.  IMO a Toemato vs. Tamato argument.

In short the hyperbole is way over the top. (But isn't it always that way on Bellgab?)  Art has clarified his point of view succinctly so there are no misunderstandings.  Therefore I vote on moving the conversation along to something more constructive. 

Speaking of which Art, how about Rich Little as the news guy?   

[sorefinger]

Guest suggestion:

E.O. Wilson

His recent documentary on PBS says it all:

"E.O. Wilson â€" Of Ants and Men"

Ed Wilson is getting up there in age, so he's not going to be with us forever.

Wilson's groundbreaking work on ant communication also led him to his remarkable studies of advanced social behavior throughout the animal world. In 1975 he synthesized these studies in a revolutionary book called “Sociobiology.” He included humans in it, along with all the other advanced social species, which led to one of the great scientific controversies of our time.

His lectures at Harvard were picketed and he was even physically attacked on stage at a scientific conference, all because he suggested that human nature could be studied scientifically. With the help of Steven Pinker, Jonathan Haidt and other prominent scientists, the film delves into the controversy and its resolution.

Time has borne Wilson out, and Sociobiology has become a well-established and accepted part of the humanities. But hardly had that controversy died down when he became embroiled in yet another fierce debate, this time not with philosophers and social scientists but with fellow biologists. It is about the theory of evolution and has brought him into conflict with Richard Dawkins and many others who fiercely oppose his theory of “group selection.” That controversy rages to this day.

But above and beyond these scientific debates lies Wilson’s abiding passion for the natural world and its conservation. The film culminates in a rapturous finale about his work in the great national park of Mozambique, Gorongosa, once torn apart by civil war, now being restored to its former glory. It brings together the great themes of Ed Wilson’s life and work: the wonder of nature, the evolution of humanity’s divided self and our need to heal ourselves by coming to terms with our place in the natural world.

[coaster]

Oh please! Are we supposed to believe that people signed up for Art's show so that they could listen to Leo? I wonder how many of his FB "posts" are real and how many are sock puppet accounts. Geez.

Yeah, thats pretty stupid. No one signed up just to listen to leo mangle the news.

[dan7800]

  Leo Ashcraft's behaviour and posts regarding this situation are incorrigible.   His words reveal far more about himself than they do about anyone else.  I sure hope he's not raising any children.  He's on steroids.  Whenever feel yourself being drawn in by the forces trying to destabilize you Art,  just visualize Leo in a spacecraft hovering before you- both are made of ashes - blow on it - sending the particles into the vast recesses of the universe and wish him well in all his future endeavers.  Truly wishing him (and whoever is encouraging him) happiness and fulfilment through virtuous means is the important part.
Do not jump onto Leo's craft.  In time, his own words will undo him. Patience will get you everywhere and anywhere.

I agree. Sounds like a baby to me.

[CornyCrow]

A more organized site that allows an easy search may not save Art time, but it would make me the customer happier.

Sure.  I agree.  Except that this may cost a lot of money, and I'm not sure that there is a LOT of bang for the buck.
I am not familiar with other's listening habits.  I try to listen live but often end up catching up on the night's show the following day on the archives.  I don't have a habit of looking into past archives.  Maybe, as time goes on, I will have that need.  Maybe Heather will, as time goes on, need to have various ways of sorting and searching the guest list. 

[TigerLily]

Sure.  I agree.  Except that this may cost a lot of money, and I'm not sure that there is a LOT of bang for the buck.
I am not familiar with other's listening habits.  I try to listen live but often end up catching up on the night's show the following day on the archives.  I don't have a habit of looking into past archives.  Maybe, as time goes on, I will have that need.  Maybe Heather will, as time goes on, need to have various ways of sorting and searching the guest list.

As I stated above a real problem is not accepting credit cards, especially with all the radio stations coming on line

There is a lot of bang in that buck

[CornyCrow]

But I will gently and with great respect, add my two cents. Rowland desperately needs to add credit card capability for Time Traveler subscriptions. I've seen lots of posts on Art's Facebook saying they would join if that was an option. I mentioned here right after I joined that it gave me pause before I was willing to dust off the old PayPal account. And you all know I'm an Art fanatic.

Keith not allowing credit cards for Time Traveling is costing Art a lot of revenue. And this will really be a huge loss as all the radio stations come on. I have emailed this suggestion to Keith and will again

Maybe Art should start a 'future development' fund, which could include this and other things he might consider helpful in the future. 

Most large companies have test systems that new things get put up on so they can iron out the bugs before it goes live.  I don't know if Keith has anything of that nature.   

[PB the Deplorable]

I saw a Noory/Ashcraft '16 bumper sticker today

[gabrielle]

Every time I think of the news segment now...all I can picture is Ted Baxter from the old Mary Tyler Moore Show.

[AppealPlay]

I saw a Noory/Ashcraft '16 bumper sticker today

Vacation in Imaginary Land?  Sounds like fun!

[CornyCrow]

Every time I think of the news segment now...all I can picture is Ted Baxter from the old Mary Tyler Moore Show.

That's a great analogy. Thanks.

[TigerLily]

Maybe Art should start a 'future development' fund, which could include this and other things he might consider helpful in the future. 

Most large companies have test systems that new things get put up on so they can iron out the bugs before it goes live.  I don't know if Keith has anything of that nature.

I had a very small business and signed up to accept credit cards the first day of business. It took 2 minutes. Cheapest through one's own bank business account or Costco. The cost is a small percentage on each transaction

[Kolchak]

So far today Leo has posted an email from Keith to non-commercial stations that I guess is supposed to be damning but seems perfectly reasonable and professional to me.

[nika01]

Wow, I'm surprised a (mostly) intelligent bunch like this one keeps beating on Leo.  Not that he doesn't deserve some of it.  But calling the guy mentally ill and listing all his symptoms, based solely on some internet posts, is a hasty generalization.  On top of that the incessant chant of "the guy doesn't know how to pronounce anything" is a bit of a stretch.  Really not fact but personal opinions of liking his delivery style or not.  IMO a Toemato vs. Tamato argument.

In short the hyperbole is way over the top. (But isn't it always that way on Bellgab?)  Art has clarified his point of view succinctly so there are no misunderstandings.  Therefore I vote on moving the conversation along to something more constructive. 

Speaking of which Art, how about Rich Little as the news guy?   

Sorry but not pronouncing words correctly IS a big deal, and not at all a stretch. There were times when every other sentence had a mispronounced common word or two. There is a right and wrong way to pronounce words, especially proper names like Beyonce. What hole has he been living in to not know that one? Seriously. Dont defend this ass wipe, you are on the wrong forum.

[AppealPlay]

So far today Leo has posted an email from Keith to non-commercial stations that I guess is supposed to be damning but seems perfectly reasonable and professional to me.

Where can I read that?

[RoseGirl]

Maybe Art should start a 'future development' fund, which could include this and other things he might consider helpful in the future. 

Most large companies have test systems that new things get put up on so they can iron out the bugs before it goes live.  I don't know if Keith has anything of that nature.

Maybe some better content on weekends too....it's so lethargic on the stream and in the forum on weekends. Maybe reruns of Art's shows for the week or something? Just can't bring myself to listen to Ham Radio shows and more ghost stories. Besides, isn't the weekend when most people are at home and on their computers?

[ItsOver]

Sorry but not pronouncing words correctly IS a big deal, and not at all a stretch. There were times when every other sentence had a mispronounced common word or two. There is a right and wrong way to pronounce words, especially proper names like Beyonce. What hole has he been living in to not know that one? Seriously. Dont defend this ass wipe, you are on the wrong forum.

It's the difference between being a professional and a hack.  "Eh, the pilot landed somewhere close to the airport.  Who cares if he missed the runway?"

[AppealPlay]

Found the e-mail Leo posted.  It seems very reasonable to me.  I'm not sure if I should post it or not considering I don't think it was intended for public consumption.  It's on Leo's Facebook page if you want to view it.

[Kolchak]

Where can I read that?

His Facebook is still open to the public. Despite promises of being "done" with this mess.

[CornyCrow]

Maybe some better content on weekends too....it's so lethargic on the stream and in the forum on weekends. Maybe reruns of Art's shows for the week or something? Just can't bring myself to listen to Ham Radio shows and more ghost stories. Besides, isn't the weekend when most people are at home and on their computers?

Perhaps working people become Time Travelers only because they catch up on the weekends? 

[GuerrillaUnReal]

So far today Leo has posted an email from Keith to non-commercial stations that I guess is supposed to be damning but seems perfectly reasonable and professional to me.

How fun must it be to be a station owner or high up person who's on the other end of the e-mails from this psychotic break?

To: All Station Owners

From: Leo Ashcraft

Subject: ART BELL IS POISONING OUR WATER SUPPLY WITH FLUORIDATION WHILE SABOTAGING OUR NATURAL FLUIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Body: αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Leo Ashcraft may be the real life Mel Gibson on South Park


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yFwQAelDrY

[RoseGirl]

Perhaps working people become Time Travelers only because they catch up on the weekends?

True, yes. People should sign up to be Time Travelers for reruns of Art's shows. Good point. Still, though, something a bit more lively on weekends would be nice. Weekdays are just so kewl with Art and then RCH, the forum is like a party...and the weekends? Not so much. On Saturday and Sunday the forum is like an empty tent just a flappin' in the wind. Very sad.

[AppealPlay]

How fun must it be to be a station owner or high up person who's on the other end of the e-mails from this psychotic break?

To: All Station Owners

From: Leo Ashcraft

Subject: ART BELL IS POISONING OUR WATER SUPPLY WITH FLUORIDATION WHILE SABOTAGING OUR NATURAL FLUIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Body: αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? øρε øρε øρε αɾτ вεll ïṡ øυτ τø ģετ ṃε? 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? 0p3 0p3 0p3 4r7 8311 !5 0u7 70 937 m3? ArT BeLl iS OuT To gEt mE? oPe oPe oPe aRt bElL Is oUt tO GeT Me? คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ๏קє ๏קє ๏קє คгt ๒єll เร ๏ยt t๏ ﻮєt ๓є؟ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ŐРĔ ĂŔŤ βĔĹĹ ĨŚ ŐÚŤ ŤŐ ĞĔŤ МĔ؟ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ◊ㄕ∑ ∆Я₮ ๒∑ﾚﾚ ⅰㄅ ◊ㄩ₮ ₮◊ б∑₮ ㎡∑؟