George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[ItsOver]

Speaking of books, here's a photo on Amazon of one of the customer's for Jorch's newest smash hit, "Night Talk."

[AZZERAE]

Jim Malliard did a new interview with Noory

Guess what?

He's not going to retire, ever

That's what he said

[PB the Deplorable]

...  How can anyone who refuses to be identitied go "on the record"?

Because George doesn't know what common phrases like 'go in the record ' mean

[Morgus]

I'm surprised 'ol "always trying to scam a buck" Jorch just doesn't have Tommee sell the books on eBay or Half Price.  At least Tommee could earn so more Twinkie money.  I guess it's just not worth the 10¢ a book.

Haha, yeah at least some of the guest's books may be worth a little, whereas Noory's books are worthless.
Maybe Noory should be giving away his own books for his Friday night trivia contests instead? 

[Morgus]

Jim Malliard did a new interview with Noory

Guess what?

He's not going to retire, ever

That's what he said

Yeah Noory keeps changing that.
13 years ago, Noory promised he would retire on Dec 21, 2012.
But he lied - after nothing happened on the Mayan Calendar date he now has no plans to retire at all... 

[PB the Deplorable]

He has no interests, no life.  There's apparently nowhere he wants to go for a vacation, nothing he wants to see or do.  He kills time during the day waiting to do the show, and goes home and to bed afterward.  His lack of interest in the world around him shines through every night.  He gets tired of LA and goes to St Louis.  He gets tired of St Louis and goes back to LA.  He goes to every single silly weekend convention, again mostly to kill time.

Is he depressed?  Should we do an intervention (heh, beyond the helpful comments on this thread)?

[Robert]

He has no interests, no life.  There's apparently nowhere he wants to go for a vacation, nothing he wants to see or do.  He kills time during the day waiting to do the show, and goes home and to bed afterward.  His lack of interest in the world around him shines through every night.  He gets tired of LA and goes to St Louis.  He gets tired of St Louis and goes back to LA.  He goes to every single silly weekend convention, again mostly to kill time.

What evidence do you have of this?  I would've thought that if he had no other interests, he would focus them on his work, but that's clearly not the case.

[UFQuack]

Jim Malliard did a new interview with Noory

Guess what?

He's not going to retire, ever

That's what he said

It's the fear of that which inspired me to make this:

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,3242.msg358716.html#msg358716

[PB the Deplorable]

What evidence do you have of this?  I would've thought that if he had no other interests, he would focus them on his work, but that's clearly not the case.

He's got 4 hours a night to talk about whatever he wants.  Do you hear him talking about any personal interests?  Any interesting places he's been?  Anything interesting he's done during the day, or on weekends?    Does he seem particularly interested in anything?

He doesn't seem to know much about anything, despite having lived on this earth for 60 some years - right down to the meaning of common words and phrases. 

Hell, this could be completely wrong and he may be the most interesting man in the world away from the mic, but I would have thought we'd have heard something about it by now.

[zeebo]

...Hell, this could be completely wrong and he may be the most interesting man in the world away from the mic, but I would have thought we'd have heard something about it by now.

He's waiting to spring it on us at just the right moment.

[Uncle Duke]

He's got 4 hours a night to talk about whatever he wants.  Do you hear him talking about any personal interests?  Any interesting places he's been?  Anything interesting he's done during the day, or on weekends?    Does he seem particularly interested in anything?

He doesn't seem to know much about anything, despite having lived on this earth for 60 some years - right down to the meaning of common words and phrases. 

Hell, this could be completely wrong and he may be the most interesting man in the world away from the mic, but I would have thought we'd have heard something about it by now.

Based on how he has engaged a finite number of guests, it's clear there are at least a few topics that interest George.  From what I've heard from his interviews, the true story behind "The Exorcist" is the best example.  In fact the finest (relative term) interview I've heard George do on C2C was with a former lay (Catholic) brother who worked at the St Louis hospital where/when the actual exorcism occurred. He's also done a credible job interviewing former US military types who specialize in Intel issues dealing with Islamic terrorism.  Sadly, he mails in at least 90% of his shows, but there are things that interest him.

[Robert]

Based on how he has engaged a finite number of guests, it's clear there are at least a few topics that interest George.  From what I've heard from his interviews, the true story behind "The Exorcist" is the best example.  In fact the finest (relative term) interview I've heard George do on C2C was with a former lay (Catholic) brother who worked at the St Louis hospital where/when the actual exorcism occurred. He's also done a credible job interviewing former US military types who specialize in Intel issues dealing with Islamic terrorism.  Sadly, he mails in at least 90% of his shows, but there are things that interest him.

So I've noticed.  Unfortunately those are not the things he's fed.  I think his bosses have locked him on to the track that C2C was on when Art left.  I wish the show could be derailed.

[Robert]

He's got 4 hours a night to talk about whatever he wants.

What makes you think he has that kind of freedom?

[Uncle Duke]

What makes you think he has that kind of freedom?

I think he has near total control, or at least right of approval, for C2C content.

Curious, however, how many here have actually been interviewed by media professionals?  In my case, the answer is at least a dozen times.  Admittedly, all but two were by print journalists, and specialists (technical defense issues and military history) at that.  Would I want to be interviewed by George?  No, not in the areas I consider myself to be credible, if not expert.  That said, would I want the journalist from "Air Force Times" to interview me about the nights I've spent in the Waverley Hills Sanatorium? No.

[PB the Deplorable]

What makes you think he has that kind of freedom?

He's had some pretty horrible guests, people he's met at the woo-woo cons he attends.  All the random lame-ass recurring guests, from Dr Morgus to Billy Mumy.

I doubt any of the decision makers at PremRat have stayed up and listened to his show even a single time, they almost couldn't have.  I think he's out there putting together every show, delegating much to his staff, just them. 

Why do you think otherwise?  Does he seem to be someone on a short leash just waiting his chance to burst thru and shine?

[PB the Deplorable]

I would listen to the opening, then pick and choose which shows to listen to the interviews, based on the guests, same with Art Bell. I don't even know how long it's been since the last time I listened to more than a few minutes, it was before he was doing all these health shows.

Maybe he does dazzling shows on turmeric and the other few items he has shown interest in, all edgy and informed.  Somehow I doubt it.

[UFQuack]

All the random lame-ass recurring guests, from Dr Morgus to Billy Mumy.

Hehe

For what it is worth, I think Jorch is lucky to get Mumy, he is actually a pretty talented guy musician- and actor-wise, even though his music is a little too soft and corny for my tastes, some of it is well put together though. I don't know about his acting nowadays, he seems to be doing good voice work, but he was probably among the best of kid actors in his time. Personally I wouldn't blame Mumy in spite of Jorch's decision to have him on. To be honest I don't get that Bill was all that thrilled to be on the last couple of times.

[Robert]

He's had some pretty horrible guests, people he's met at the woo-woo cons he attends.  All the random lame-ass recurring guests, from Dr Morgus to Billy Mumy.

I doubt any of the decision makers at PremRat have stayed up and listened to his show even a single time, they almost couldn't have.  I think he's out there putting together every show, delegating much to his staff, just them. 

Why do you think otherwise?

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,1966.msg26077.html#msg26077

I don't think it's Noory, but I don't think many of the decisions go far up the line either.  I think his show's put together for him by a prod'n staff.  However, I do think people up the line have gotten the word from below and sent it back w approval that Noory should not be putting together his own show.

Does he seem to be someone on a short leash just waiting his chance to burst thru and shine?

He doesn't seem exactly like that, but I do think he's someone who could shine if he were doing material that interested him more.  He might not have ambition to do so, but if pushed into it, I think he would do much better.

[ItsOver]

... but I do think he's someone who could shine if he were doing material that interested him more....

Like kids who die horrific deaths or hamster stomping?  He does seem to perk-up a bit with some topics more than others.

[Dateline]

Like kids who die horrific deaths or hamster stomping?  He does seem to perk-up a bit with some topics more than others.

Yes, he does it with pets, too.  There was the animal communicator on last week, and some of his questions included, "How do pets feel about death?",  "How do pets talk to you about the owners wanting to put them down?", and in a shelter sending "Do the animals know they are going to be euthanized and how do they talk to you about it?" 

I think he talked about pet death from every angle imaginable.

[albrecht]

Yes, he does it with pets, too.  There was the animal communicator on last week, and some of his questions included, "How do pets feel about death?",  "How do pets talk to you about the owners wanting to put them down?", and in a shelter sending "Do the animals know they are going to be euthanized and how do they talk to you about it?" 

I think he talked about pet death from every angle imaginable.

Yeah, listened to that show while stuck in traffic today and was laughing out loud, other motorists probably thought I was crazy since most others were mad and frustrated (major wreck and highway shutdown and big rainstorm.) He approached the subject (former cop in Spokane turned into some kind of animal intuitive/communicator  ) almost always with death or sad side of animals (slaughter houses, euthanized in shelter, can they commit suicide, abused animals, etc.) It was bizarre he also had a throw-away line at one point about "throwing my slippers at you" (I guess referencing actions of himself toward a pet.)

Even when the guest and callers tried to turn to positive subjects he would twist it back to the ghoulish. It was a funny show though. Guest: "I'm going out there George, but reincarnation goes to whatever is good for the soul." (I especially liked the old lady who called in about her cat that had the spirit of her old dead cat in it- which was verified because they also had a master-pet relationship in medieval France where they were going to burn her as a witch.  )

ps: My dad has a theory on Norry that he keeps his job because he doesn't make waves, there is no competition in late night radio, and since he is uninterested, or calculating, that he tolerates cranks, old senile people, crazies, and others who don't have anyone to talk with. And insomniacs, crazies, and the house-bond are a market for the quack medicines and fraudulent financial hucksters.

[Robert]

My dad has a theory on Norry that he keeps his job because he doesn't make waves,

I'm sure.

there is no competition in late night radio,

True, but doesn't make sense.  Late night radio has never been lucrative.  Larry King's show for years had no paid advertising.  They had commercial breaks, but they were filled with PSAs, promos, and ads for businesses co-owned with the Mutual Broadcasting System.  Eventually they started selling a few spots.

So the stakes are low.  Is that a reason to throw the game?  Scale everything down from any large biz venture, and the relative values would remain the same, hence the reasons for business decisions.

There's only one way it could be otherwise, and that would be if the stakes became so low that it was not worth the att'n of anyone in the business.  Like when Ivory soap sells slightly cheaper at Rite Aid in the 3 oz. than the 4 oz. size on a per-weight basis, is the cogitation worth saving a few cents?

and since he is uninterested, or calculating, that he tolerates cranks, old senile people, crazies, and others who don't have anyone to talk with.

You mean as phoners-in?  Why would the audience care about that?  Listenership may be small, but those on the phone are still an unimportant fraction of them.  I've never heard of a phone-in program that lacked callers because of how they're treated on air.  Ken Freedman jokes on their 7 Second Delay program that the reason they don't have callers waiting to get on is that they're all driven away by Andy Breckman's treating them like dirt (comedy schtick), but the real reason is just small listenership and its being an inconvenient time (PM drive on Weds.).  And AFAICT, Noory fools around with the callers about as much as Art did; it's cheap humor that phone-in is infamous for.

And insomniacs, crazies, and the house-bond are a market for the quack medicines and fraudulent financial hucksters.

Probably not much better a market for them than other audience segments.  However, infomercials for such abound during the same hours as C2C.  It's when the time is cheap.

[PB the Deplorable]

... ps: My dad has a theory on Norry...

You admit to others you've heard of George Noory?

[PB the Deplorable]

... You mean as phoners-in?  Why would the audience care about that?  Listenership may be small, but those on the phone are still an unimportant fraction of them...

I've never understood the rush to 'go to thuh phones'.  The claim that the audience gets to participate and ask the guests questions is not really true - if Art had an interesting guest on, the chances of any one person getting through to ask their question was very small. 

The callers themselves were seldom interesting, and usually wasted tons of time asking if they were on air, turning down their radios, telling Art how much they liked the show, etc.  Art was excellent at hanging up, taking some aspect of what the caller said, and restating it in a way that made it interesting, but the calls themselves were almost universally horrible.  And they didn't improve when the Snorge took over, that's for sure

[Inglorious Bitch]

I've never understood the rush to 'go to thuh phones'.

Why should Noory do all the heavy lifting? Let the callers do the work while he eats a sandwich.

[Robert]

I've never understood the rush to 'go to thuh phones'.  The claim that the audience gets to participate and ask the guests questions is not really true - if Art had an interesting guest on, the chances of any one person getting through to ask their question was very small. 

The callers themselves were seldom interesting, and usually wasted tons of time asking if they were on air, turning down their radios, telling Art how much they liked the show, etc.  Art was excellent at hanging up, taking some aspect of what the caller said, and restating it in a way that made it interesting, but the calls themselves were almost universally horrible.  And they didn't improve when the Snorge took over, that's for sure

I agree w all that, except I'd take "almost universally horrible" as an exagger'n.  I'd say "in the great majority bad & tending to drag the show down".  And I think that not only of shows Art's done, but many others, although it's true Art's one of the better emcees at reformulating the gist of a phone call in more interesting form.  Sometimes I think he got it wrong in the sense of not faithfully reproducing what the phoner-in wanted to ask, but so what?  It's about the show, not about an individual's inquiry.  So that kind of "wrong" can be right.  And yet there was never a lack of callers.  And I was never much of a fan of frequent open-topic phone segments, Art often made them interesting; of course he often "cheated" by limiting the topic in advance.

[albrecht]

You admit to others you've heard of George Noory?

He's old but we caught the show driving a few years ago and so he knows. Family, so a 'safe space' to admit it and not be triggered or embarrassed.

[ItsOver]

Is he in the process of planning to strangle that poor dog?  He has a history of "accidents" with animals.

Notice no matter the entity, they all look uncomfortable.  Even 'lil Jorch with Jorch looks unhappy.

[Zetaspeak]

He has no interests, no life.  There's apparently nowhere he wants to go for a vacation, nothing he wants to see or do.  He kills time during the day waiting to do the show, and goes home and to bed afterward.  His lack of interest in the world around him shines through every night.  He gets tired of LA and goes to St Louis.  He gets tired of St Louis and goes back to LA.  He goes to every single silly weekend convention, again mostly to kill time.

I always found that to be odd. He did a bunch of shows about the pyramids, yet he never wanted to see it himself (when Egypt was safer) What about Europe with Stonehenge or Lochness. There is so much great paranormal and cryptids around the world, places some  of his guests have referenced on the show. Doing a show like this (well some of the time) it's just strange he never felt the need to take a few weeks off and check it out himself.

I've never understood the rush to 'go to thuh phones'.  The claim that the audience gets to participate and ask the guests questions is not really true - if Art had an interesting guest on, the chances of any one person getting through to ask their question was very small. 

This is something I really missed, what I loved about C2C with Art, it was a conversation with a guest. On a normal show, Art might have crypto news for the first half hour but than he will go from 1:30est to 4AMest (2 and a half hours) with one detailed converstation/interview. Art might have calls for the last hour, but many times when Art really clicking with a guest, there no calls for the until the last 20 minutes. On the contrary, Noory will have "Generic news" for the first 20 minutes, have is first feature guest on at around 1:20am for ten minutes for an introduction and then go to break , then come back at 1:40, have another what 15 or 20 minutes of talk and off to callers, all and all the first major guest of the night gets about half an hour of actual interview.

[Donald Noory]

He's got 4 hours a night to talk about whatever he wants.  Do you hear him talking about any personal interests?  Any interesting places he's been?  Anything interesting he's done during the day, or on weekends?    Does he seem particularly interested in anything?

He doesn't seem to know much about anything, despite having lived on this earth for 60 some years - right down to the meaning of common words and phrases. 

Hell, this could be completely wrong and he may be the most interesting man in the world away from the mic, but I would have thought we'd have heard something about it by now.

He's been spending every waking moment of free time learning the craft of writing fiction, and working on his novel Night Talk. Jorch really put in the hours on that book. He damned near killed himself working on it night and day. Ten-Ton Tommy had to rip his fingers away from the keyboard at certain times, he was so worried about Jorch's health, as he never stopped for a break, sweating blood, laboring over each word in the novel, wanting to get it just right for all the fans who would spend their hard-earned money on it.

But seriously, who was Jorch's ghostwriter on the novel? Anyone know? Everyone knows Jorch is barely capable of signing his name, let alone writing a fiction novel. What a scammer. He must have contempt for his fans.