George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[bmcintyre]

You are either really dense or work for Premier.  You could also be a fan/groupie of the noron - which would also indicate you're really dense.

Now, now, you know that is not true.  I myself have called this mammal a "slow learner" among other things.  But, to be fair, its past postings here indicate quite the contrary.   

This mammal's only offense is taking the high road. 

[UnscreenedCaller]

I do not understand why George believes that he must protect our constitutional rights.   I don't need him to protect the Constitution; I needed him to do his job for the last ten years and stop driving me crazy. 

Now, he has started a fight with someone who will eventually clean his clock.  So dumb.

Because he considers himself a modern day Prometheus with a bad rug and a burned out matchstick in his hand. The  trooth he brings is made up of equal parts mass hysteria, paranoia and unsubstantiated claims.

[bmcintyre]

Because he considers himself a modern day Prometheus with a bad rug and a burned out matchstick in his hand. The  trooth he brings is made up of equal parts mass hysteria, paranoia and unsubstantiated claims.

Yes; Mass Hysteria, Paranoia, and Unsubstantiated Claims.  That is it in a nutshell.

What about his messianic complex? Not kidding.

[ItsOver]

Has George ever come back to visit?

He was back to "keep an eye on us," so to speak, and dispute his latest sleaziness a few nights ago.  He crept into this thread at some point:

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=4919.0

Dave's always good for a few laughs at his expense.  He's like the Flounder of the BellGab "Animal House."

[bmcintyre]

He was back to "keep an eye on us," so to speak, and dispute his latest sleaziness a few nights ago.  He crept into this thread at some point:

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=4919.0

Dave's always good for a few laughs at his expense.  He's like the Flounder of the BellGab "Animal House."

What is he calling himself?  Is he just testing the waters to see what he can get away with?

[ItsOver]

What is he calling himself?  Is he just testing the waters to see what he can get away with?

What is he calling himself?  Do you mean his BellGab member name?

[bmcintyre]

Yes, I did not see his posting on the link that you provided. 

Sorry, saw it; he is still going by Gnoory.
Thanks

[onan]

Yes, I did not see his posting on the link that you provided.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=4919.msg171229#msg171229

[ItsOver]

Yes, I did not see his posting on the link that you provided. 

Sorry, saw it; he is still going by Gnoory.
Thanks

Yeah, he's still Gnoory.  You can also tell by his typically bizarre avatar.

[bmcintyre]

Yeah, he's still Gnoory.  You can also tell by his typically bizarre avatar.

I just read about 3 pages of his postings.  It warmed my heart that no one put up with his horseshit. 

I really hate it when someone comes to this site and tells someone else what is and is not appropriate language.  Nasty little cunt.

[bmcintyre]

He was back to "keep an eye on us," so to speak, and dispute his latest sleaziness a few nights ago.  He crept into this thread at some point:

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=4919.0

Dave's always good for a few laughs at his expense.  He's like the Flounder of the BellGab "Animal House."

Except Flounder was kind of an innocent fool and George is a slacker.

[bmcintyre]

Now, now, you know that is not true.  I myself have called this mammal a "slow learner" among other things.  But, to be fair, its past postings here indicate quite the contrary.   

This mammal's only offense is taking the high road.

I personally curse the day that Mrs. Noory took a dump and called it her son.

[SciFiAuthor]

You are either really dense or work for Premier.  You could also be a fan/groupie of the noron - which would also indicate you're really dense.

Nope, just fair.

[zeebo]

Nope, just fair.

Hey fellow mammal.  I think you may err on the side of giving GN too much benefit of the doubt.  This is not ~necessarily~ a bad thing.  From what I pick up this view simply stems from your hopes that the show could be salvaged because you, well, like good radio shows. 

Many here including myself don't think there's much hope for that, but still I guess I'd rather have your outlook than some here who seem to think the guy is some kind of monster hell bent on destroying humanity.  I'm sometimes shocked by the level of outright pure hate directed at the guy.  Hell I think he sucks too but true hate I reserve for certain politicians and my neighbors.

In any case even though I often disagree with you (e.g. I think a Noory-based c2c is doomed to mediocrity), for what it's worth I at least appreciate your attempts at fairness and a certain level of civil discourse. 

[PB the Deplorable]

No, I asked what your standards for all of this were and you tried to BS your way out with a talking point for some reason. Then you give me theories, such as "George is lazy". Well, ok. You must know him better than I do, apparently.

I haven't listened since Oates other than to see if the stolen guest said anything about DM. You're the one still banging on about the suckage. I'd say there's a good chance you're tuning in.

Most people who have listened to that show know exactly what people mean when they say he is lazy, that his dumping of guests is unprofessional, that he doesn't challenge his guests when he should, and is an ass to many of them - especially to the female guests.  I can hardly believe someone like yourself listens, doesn't notice any of it, and needs details, clarifications, standards, or any of the rest of it.  Good work detective.  How bad does something have to get for you to notice?

You claim it's opinion, that there is bias against George.  No kidding.  After years of a replacement host ruining a once great show people are going to form opinions, and they won't be positive.


No, I don't listen to George and haven't for several years.  I think it's great there are people still out there after all these years to remind George that he ruined a once great show.  He's earned every bit of it.  And besides, it's fun.



How about this.  You claim to just recently have noticed George is a slimeball.  People here have been saying it for years, and providing examples.  Now it sounds like you think we were making it up all along and it turned out to be a lucky shot in the dark. 

I would suggest you are the one that missed the clues.  The question is:  are you being paid to do so?

[aldousburbank]

George Noory is no Mike Siegal.

[HaveAccess]

Flipper...

From Daves generous compensation yet lack of effort and preperation...
To his claim of "spiritual" experience, yet preoccupation with the demonic....
To Oates
To efforts to "steal" Arts guests that verge on a perverse slapstick comedy...
All "documented"....

Its obvious something is very wrong with that program...
Something is very wrong with its juvenile management...
Something that we all really loved and was fascinated by 10 years ago...
Has been callously hijacked and crushed underfoot by mediocrity...
Or should I say an estimate of what might "sell" in the marketplace?

No wonder our frustration...
We all here state but the obvious...
Some in a far more entertaining and humorous manner than others...
But its the same message, about the same obvious condition....
The same obvious condition.

No one here is a "hater"...
We tell it like it is...
The buffoons are in control of that program now...
Its obvious.

[dortmunder]

Except Flounder was kind of an innocent fool and George is a slacker.

Hey! I'm a slacker and I resent the comparison! Give me slack or give me rest!

[aldousburbank]

I am not sure what the history and origin of clowns is. But I do know that, one of the first tasks of infants is to learn to organize facial patterns. If you show a very young infant a face with the eyes, nose, and mouth out of place the infant doesn't react, but several weeks later showing that same image will cause distress in the infant.

That learning isn't a one time event but becomes more sophisticated over the next several years. So placing a face with disconcerting colors and grotesque shapings, in close proximity to a young child is probably not a great idea.

Killer Clowns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/10392239/Francisco-Rafael-Arellano-Felix-Head-of-Tijuana-Cartel-shot-dead-by-clown-gunmen.html

[WildCard]

George Noory is no Mike Siegal.

Now that IS below the belt. Be civil!

[Nighthawk]

So on Friday this David Schrader character will be hosting coast to toast. Is George planning on retiring? Is that why this new guy has been brought in?

If you go to this link, move the player to the 12 minute mark where you can hear this Schrader guy announcing his arrival on coast to toast.

http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/media/podcast-darkness-radio-darknessradio/1018-hr1-supernatural-news-23861712/

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[The General]

George Noory is no Mike Siegal.

And Mike Siegal is no Hilly Rose.

[RedMichael]

People who think others willfully dislike something are crazy. It takes a lot more effort to dislike something, it causes a lot more stress, and you are robbing yourself of something that might be enjoyable.


So when someone says its just a bias that we don't like Dave they are overlooking:

1) That we wouldn't jump at the chance to have C2C be listenable again.
2) 28 hours of potential, FREE, entertainment each week we are giving up because we don't like the hosts. Think about that, we are giving up that much free entertainment to dislike someone. It doesn't make sense to choose to do something like that. Dave is bad enough he made the choice for us.
3) A lot of us listened to old Bell and used that as a reference point.
4) I would say...all of us at least didn't mind Dave at first. This was earned.
5) Everyone here disliked Dave at first THEN found this site. Think about that. This site doesn't grow discontent. It just acknowledges it.

[Falkie2013]

Jesus... now we have George's Parts.  Original thinking?

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More like Snoorge's Brain Farts.

The man hasn't had an original thought in his head for years.
Tommy or one of the Coast deros ... err, underlings are probably scanning every AB DM broadcast for lines for Snory to steal and then they put them on flash cards ( uh, dog, cat, is it expensive ?, wormholes, worm dung trails ) for Snoory to read in a failed attempt to make him look profound.
If the man had any integrity, he'd retire and quit broadcasting ( if that's what you call what he's been doing for 10 years, me I call it amateur hour ) forever.
But in order to have integrity you have to have some innate sense of honor.
And in all probability inteligence.
Both of which Snoory is lacking in spades.
Integrity cannot be bought with money or fame.

[Falkie2013]

Except Flounder was kind of an innocent fool and George is a slacker.

And Flounder is now deeply insulted by your comparing him to Snoory.

[Falkie2013]

yes, unfortunately he's headed the wrong way.

Noory's evolutionary chain is different from the rest of humanity.
It starts in a dung heap, moves to an outhouse, then to a septic tank, then to a sewage treatment plant, but no matter what Noory does, the stench still remains.

[Falkie2013]

Well, is he a prick or isn't he? You can't take a guest to task without coming across as a prick to some listeners. Art's already done that, prompting a few in the live threads to mention him being "short" with callers and guests. To be nice means you can't press guests and callers. George is accused of not pressing guests, but is also accused of being a prick to guests. You make sense of that for me and then we'll both know what's going on, but it certainly doesn't compute logically right now.

Never noticed George hitting on female guests one way or another. I plead the fifth on this one, I have been known to flirt and hit on chicks at bars from here to freaking China.

If you look in the live threads, especially that terrible interview with that kid in Nevada, people spoke glowingly about a guest dump on Art's show. They say he's dumped them on purpose with dropped calls in the past. I have no idea if that's true or not, and don't care either way, but what is your standard here? I'm sure you agree that it should be consistently applied for either host, or any radio host for that matter. What is a bad dump and what is good dump?

As far as personal experiences, well, see, here's the problem: about 90% or more paranormal experiences are fakes. Hoaxes. Whether for attention seeking or selling a book, they're frauds. I'm interested in the percentage that aren't fakes, which is why I listen. Be that as it may, both shows are still effectively forums for complete frauds to sell their goods. If Noory tells a story about once owning a horse and it might not be true, and then the guest comes on and says aliens abducted him and gave him a complete physical and touched his penis, which is almost certainly a complete lie, well, you tell me which one is more creepy and which one is more innocuous. C2C is literally a forum where fake stories are told under the auspices that they just might be true every now and then. It's the guests that creep me out, not the hosts.

I just don't see where the standards are with any of this. It's opinion, and it's coming from people that already pre-disliked the subject of criticism. That's called bias. Well, look, biased sources aren't reliable. Turn on Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow or Sean Hannity for a while and you'll see how that works. And that's why I don't accept Noory opinions from open detractors. I don't care if someone who's raging away with screw Noory comments tells me that they once got a curtly worded letter from him. For all I know, they opened the letter with the words "Fuck you George, and BTW, could you please. . ."

But what isn't bias is open action. And George having Oates on and snarfing guests is clear action. It's a no-brainer to judge his actions on that basis and I just did, George Noory is behaving badly and sucks for it. But what I still don't know is if this is all just adversarial promotion. I see it's fired up again with George posting in the live threads. Fighting is a good way to promote two celebrities, look at Trump and Rosie, so I'm not sure what I'm watching with this back and forth between the hosts. It could all be face value too, I just don't know.

But I'm certainly not going to burst an artery over it.

I disagree with you on the percentage of cases being 90% hoaxes.
Many people have had them and honestly present them but science and skeptics ridicule it because you can't reproduce something that's happening on another level of existence.

Everytime I see your avatar, all I can think of is :

1) Was  that Snoory's business card picture when he was in the Naval Reserve ?
and
2) George Noory ... Turkey of the Sea.

[SciFiAuthor]

Hey fellow mammal.  I think you may err on the side of giving GN too much benefit of the doubt.  This is not ~necessarily~ a bad thing.  From what I pick up this view simply stems from your hopes that the show could be salvaged because you, well, like good radio shows. 

Many here including myself don't think there's much hope for that, but still I guess I'd rather have your outlook than some here who seem to think the guy is some kind of monster hell bent on destroying humanity.  I'm sometimes shocked by the level of outright pure hate directed at the guy.  Hell I think he sucks too but true hate I reserve for certain politicians and my neighbors.

In any case even though I often disagree with you (e.g. I think a Noory-based c2c is doomed to mediocrity), for what it's worth I at least appreciate your attempts at fairness and a certain level of civil discourse.

Hi Squirrel,

Thanks and I agree with your post across the board. The only difference now is that since the Oates interview, I stopped listening to Noory. I'm done with him and prefer to just listen to Art's replay for bits that I missed rather than tune in to C2C. You can improve a show, I firmly believe that, but you can't erase history and George has created a lot of bad history lately.

[SciFiAuthor]

Most people who have listened to that show know exactly what people mean when they say he is lazy, that his dumping of guests is unprofessional, that he doesn't challenge his guests when he should, and is an ass to many of them - especially to the female guests.  I can hardly believe someone like yourself listens, doesn't notice any of it, and needs details, clarifications, standards, or any of the rest of it.  Good work detective.  How bad does something have to get for you to notice?

You claim it's opinion, that there is bias against George.  No kidding.  After years of a replacement host ruining a once great show people are going to form opinions, and they won't be positive.


No, I don't listen to George and haven't for several years.  I think it's great there are people still out there after all these years to remind George that he ruined a once great show.  He's earned every bit of it.  And besides, it's fun.



How about this.  You claim to just recently have noticed George is a slimeball.  People here have been saying it for years, and providing examples.  Now it sounds like you think we were making it up all along and it turned out to be a lucky shot in the dark. 

I would suggest you are the one that missed the clues.  The question is:  are you being paid to do so?

No, I think about 40 people caught on to the lazy thing and they're all here feeding off each other in an orgy of mutually reinforcing delusion. Someone said it at some point, and everyone else nodded and said "Hmm, yeah! He IS lazy! and then the herd instinct took over. You're politically aware, you know exactly how that shit works like a charm for certain presidents.

As far as being sexist or whatever you're implying with the female guest thing, no, I haven't noticed it. I'm up for clips and will give you an honest assessment of it. If it's wrong, I'll say so. If it's overstuffing the turkey through bias, well, I'll tell you that too. I'm willing to do that BECAUSE I have read the examples.

But let's take on lazy:

Here's what we know from the facts: we know Noory does an internet TV show, we know he's working with a ghost writer to produce books, we know he makes multiple public appearances, we know he appears on Syfy docs  and we know he hosts a 4 hour show 5 days a week. Lazy you say? Doesn't wash. What does wash is that George is trying to squeeze whatever he can financially from his moment in the sun and the quality of all suffers when you focus broadly and try to do too much.

Ok, so we agree that there is bias. Um, well, that speaks for itself. Why would I consider a biased opinion and anecdote credible? More importantly, why would you?

As far as being paid, we've been through that, it's crap. But if you must beat the dead horse yet again: Ok, you're telling me that you haven't listened to Noory in years, yet you're willing to criticize vigorously and daily...and I'm the one being paid? Blah, blah, blah, you're a paper tiger, shut down the argument with an accusation this and that and more blah. There we go, let's just assume we're both being paid and move on.

[SciFiAuthor]

People who think others willfully dislike something are crazy. It takes a lot more effort to dislike something, it causes a lot more stress, and you are robbing yourself of something that might be enjoyable.


So when someone says its just a bias that we don't like Dave they are overlooking:

1) That we wouldn't jump at the chance to have C2C be listenable again.
2) 28 hours of potential, FREE, entertainment each week we are giving up because we don't like the hosts. Think about that, we are giving up that much free entertainment to dislike someone. It doesn't make sense to choose to do something like that. Dave is bad enough he made the choice for us.
3) A lot of us listened to old Bell and used that as a reference point.
4) I would say...all of us at least didn't mind Dave at first. This was earned.
5) Everyone here disliked Dave at first THEN found this site. Think about that. This site doesn't grow discontent. It just acknowledges it.

1. Proven wrong in this thread. Go back and see the section where Noory was asking for the members to help him make it better and correlate it with the shows from that time. Some helped, some wanted Noory banned on the spot, and some continued to slog. There are people here who blatantly want him cancelled and living in a cardboard box with Tommy in downtown LA.

2. I pointed that out when I first came here. The worst thing that could happen is two good shows. I was lynched for suggesting it. Again, go back and look.

3. Yeah, I did too. Problem is the benchmark is high. Compare Bell to ANY broadcaster. The guy is gifted in what he does. You could replace Noory with any one you wish, and the result is going to be the same. They did. Hilly Rose, Mike Seigal, George Noory, George Knapp, John B. Wells, Rollye James, Ian Punnett ... are all inferior to Art Bell. That's why I asked for standards.

4. Some said that, but there are problems. If he's bad to the core, everyone should have caught that on his first night. If he's degraded, then that implies improvement is possible. Either way, comparing him to Hitler seems misplaced!

5. I don't know how accurate that is. I *guess* people might find George's suckage important enough to go searching it out on the internet, but I am skeptical.  I didn't find it by searching "George Noory Sucks". I found it searching for information on Art's return when he started hinting that he was coming back and then started exploring threads.