George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Morgus]

Anyone catch the part of the Marshall Masters interview when George just cut him off and said "Lets go to phone lines, are you ready"?! He basically interrupted the guy because he was talking too much! There could be other ways to go about interrupting a guest! I was laughing.

Noory always does that. Its like he has a timer that goes off and he has to force the guest to go to the phones.
Yet when Noory himself is supposed to go to the phones for all open lines on Fridays he either takes off the night or schedules a guest for 2 hours first - anything to get out of it. 

[Morgus]

Tonight Noory asked one of his news guests: "Isn't it surprising that cures for some diseases are found on this planet?"
Where did you think they would come from moron Noory? Outer Space?

[polarissucks01]

I am getting SO sick of Noory and his format. "Here is so and so with a book, their books is available at amazon. Did I mention that my guest has a book? buy Coast insider, coast insider, income at home" COMMERCIAL "Hi, i'm George Noory here is my guest their book is available at amazon"........ UGH!


all about money

[Morgus]

I am getting SO sick of Noory and his format. "Here is so and so with a book, their books is available at amazon. Did I mention that my guest has a book? buy Coast insider, coast insider, income at home" COMMERCIAL "Hi, i'm George Noory here is my guest their book is available at amazon"........ UGH!

all about money

and always in the last hour Noory asks his guest "where can someone get your book?" 
now Noory is interrupting the guest on student loans to tell his own stories. 

[Ben Shockley]

Tonight Noory asked one of his news guests: "Isn't it surprising that cures for some diseases are found on this planet?"
Where did you think they would come from moron Noory? Outer Space?

That "on this planet" schtick is a very noticeable mental/verbal tic for him.   He uses it regularly as a substitute for "in the world" -- "strange things happening on this planet" ..."where on this planet are these found?" and stuff like that;  in your example there it apparently substituted for "in the natural world."
It helps to have a Noorish-to-English dictionary handy.

[WOTR]

Hearing him do the interview with the woman in the Kayak is bloody painful.  It is as though he has decided that he does not want her to get to her story too fast.  5 minutes of asking questions that an imbicile would not ask trying to prolong the story.  She just told him that she was underwater and trying to get out (paraphrasing.)  He actually asked her if she was trying to get to the surface.   No Georgie- she was holding the rocks on the bottom to stay there.  Idiot...  I just do not know how much longer I can take him this evening.

It is a shame as I kayak and have my jetski.  I find her to be interesting, but he is just too much to take with his constant little quips and interruptions.

[HorrorReporter]

All Noory criticism aside, last night's show about school loans was actually one of Noory's better, and Alan Collinge was very entertaining, plus I learned something for a change. Seriously, I will pause on posting images of Noory's weave or blasting him for arrogance and stupidity. Bravo on a decent two hours. I didn't listen to the NDE lady.  I'm sure she was nice.

Maybe I am biased because I already think the student loan mess is a scandal and I had high hopes, hopes that were dashed, that President Obama would do some true reforms. ... lots of people with debt of hundreds of thousands are still waiting.

[HorrorReporter]

Tonight Noory asked one of his news guests: "Isn't it surprising that cures for some diseases are found on this planet?"
Where did you think they would come from moron Noory? Outer Space?

I just posted something positive about Noory. His show on student loans wasn't bad.
Then you made me think of what I heard and ... well... cringed at.

[b_dubb]

I just went back and listened to the first hour of the 6/11/2011 Show about MIB. the first hour was a show-mercial for some self improvement book written by some ditto head named Sunshine Bitchyface. oh wait ... her real name Susan David WhooGivesAFuck

what a pile of shit

[Lovely Bones]

I am getting SO sick of Noory and his format. "Here is so and so with a book, their books is available at amazon. Did I mention that my guest has a book? buy Coast insider, coast insider, income at home" COMMERCIAL "Hi, i'm George Noory here is my guest their book is available at amazon"........ UGH!


all about money

I realize some of the guests come on only (or largely) because they've got a new book coming out.  But it's the way Snoory handles it that's annoying--like a used car salesman.  Get the notes on a 3X5 card, then rattle the data off before saying, "Santa Claus, howwaryewwww?" 

If you listen to Art, Ian, and Knapp handle these introductions, they always manage to turn this material into somewhat interesting conversations with the guests, graudually turning the conversation to whatever book or other artifact the guest has come on the show to highlight.  Much less crass and obvious, and as a listener, I feel less like I'm being set up for a sale by a trained monkey at a car lot. 

[stevesh]

All Noory criticism aside, last night's show about school loans was actually one of Noory's better, and Alan Collinge was very entertaining, plus I learned something for a change. Seriously, I will pause on posting images of Noory's weave or blasting him for arrogance and stupidity. Bravo on a decent two hours. I didn't listen to the NDE lady.  I'm sure she was nice.

Maybe I am biased because I already think the student loan mess is a scandal and I had high hopes, hopes that were dashed, that President Obama would do some true reforms. ... lots of people with debt of hundreds of thousands are still waiting.

Seems sometimes that those people who are 'still waiting' are waiting for Daddy Obama to pay off their loans for them, with our (yours and mine) money.

I don't think the student loan mess can be fixed until the federal government gets out of the business entirely. Last night's guest is exactly right when he says that student loan firms should be subject to the same collection practice laws as any other creditor, and any loan balance, student or otherwise, should be prohibited by law from exceeding the original loan amount plus accrued interest. The horror stories told last night about $40,000 balances ending up at $250.000 due to shenanigans by lenders and collection agencies are shameful.

I'll even (reluctantly) agree with the guest that student loans should be dischargable in bankruptcy. Problem is, we taxpayers will end up eating those losses the way things are now.

The student loan business should be private lenders making loans to individual students, basing the market interest rate on demand, competition and risk assessment. If too many students graduate and declare bankruptcy, the price for loans will go up, or they won't be available. That's the way it's supposed to work. Tuition rates would plummet, too.

[Gassy Man]

Seems sometimes that those people who are 'still waiting' are waiting for Daddy Obama to pay off their loans for them, with our (yours and mine) money.

I don't think the student loan mess can be fixed until the federal government gets out of the business entirely. Last night's guest is exactly right when he says that student loan firms should be subject to the same collection practice laws as any other creditor, and any loan balance, student or otherwise, should be prohibited by law from exceeding the original loan amount plus accrued interest. The horror stories told last night about $40,000 balances ending up at $250.000 due to shenanigans by lenders and collection agencies are shameful.

I'll even (reluctantly) agree with the guest that student loans should be dischargable in bankruptcy. Problem is, we taxpayers will end up eating those losses the way things are now.

The student loan business should be private lenders making loans to individual students, basing the market interest rate on demand, competition and risk assessment. If too many students graduate and declare bankruptcy, the price for loans will go up, or they won't be available. That's the way it's supposed to work. Tuition rates would plummet, too.

A lot of the lenders are private banks -- Collins doesn't exactly paint a false picture of the situation, but he does leave out information so that people come to the conclusions he wants them to.  His job is to be the "guru" of the subject so he can consult and sell books.

I teach full-time at a community college and for many years taught part-time in addition at my alma mater, a four-year university.  I've been in the business more than 20 years in some capacity.  I can tell you that the financial aid situation has changed quite a bit -- which Collins correctly points out -- and has mostly shifted to loans rather than scholarships and government grants, but I can also tell you that the student attitude about how to pay for college -- which Collins does not correctly point out -- has also changed considerably in those years.

I put myself through my undergraduate programs by working about 40 hours a week in two rather low-paying part-time jobs on campus.  Though I didn't make much, I could walk to those jobs and also fit them in between classes, so it made more sense than being a server or something else off campus.  It kept me out of trouble until the weekend too.  I took out no loans and came out debt free.  Because my grades were good, I went to grad school for free and received a stipend to live off of too.  I took out a small loan, invested it, made some money, paid back the principal, and once again was debt free.

I had to sacrifice some things in order to do this.  I didn't have the latest whatever was popular at the time, and I wasn't jetting off to Europe for a term of study.  I lived in the dorm because it was cheap, and when I got an apartment in the student ghetto, it was with three other guys (and occasionally one or more of our girlfriends) so we could keep the rent affordable.  We didn't have cable TV or any of the other luxuries around at that time.  There were two cars among all of us.

By contrast, many, if not most, of my students now are in apartments alone or with only one other person.  They're not slumming it in the traditional sense, but often are in some pretty swanky places.  They all have their own cars, along with the carnotes and insurance.  Monthly, they have $100 cell phone and data plans on $300 smartphones, $100 cable and Roadrunner bills, $60-70 for video games.  They have $500 laptops, $200 iPods, $100 sneakers, $200 dresses and other clothes for weekends.  They take trips -- and not just the classic road trips to another college, but get on planes and fly and stay in hotels.  They go out to eat several nights a week or more, and on weekends they spend their money not in the campus dives but in the pricier bars and restaurants off campus.

They expect to live their lives starting at 18, which is fine, but they do it by borrowing against the future.  We have discussions about the student loan "problem" in class and the recurring theme is that as much as they hate taking out loans they don't want to sacrifice for a few years anything in terms of the quality of life in order to be debt free.

On top of that, many of them come with unrealistic expectations about what college is about.  They assume all they have to do is get the degree and there will be a job waiting for them -- there has to be because it's someone else's responsibility to make sure that happens.  They don't learn anything beyond that, and as a result, they don't do much while they're in school to create opportunities and are less competitive when they graduate.  They put in minimal time.  College was always about being elite, and even then some people didn't get work in their field.  Now college is mainstream, and graduates are basically average, which hinders their getting jobs.

Not all students fit this mold, but enough do that that contributes to the "crisis."

Another thing that bothers me about Collins is his constant ragging on any field of study in the Humanities.  Let me say this, and only to make the point:  I graduated with two degrees in the Humanities and one in what marginally is in the social sciences.  Through teaching, writing, and consulting, I collectively make more money than anyone I know, including friends in engineering, business, and most medical jobs.  The notion that the field is what produces a successful person is silly; what makes the person successful is what they do in their field.

And I'm about to return to school for another degree.  I won't be going into debt for that degree either.

[Frys Girl]

A lot of the lenders are private banks -- Collins doesn't exactly paint a false picture of the situation, but he does leave out information so that people come to the conclusions he wants them to.  His job is to be the "guru" of the subject so he can consult and sell books.

I teach full-time at a community college and for many years taught part-time in addition at my alma mater, a four-year university.  I've been in the business more than 20 years in some capacity.  I can tell you that the financial aid situation has changed quite a bit -- which Collins correctly points out -- and has mostly shifted to loans rather than scholarships and government grants, but I can also tell you that the student attitude about how to pay for college -- which Collins does not correctly point out -- has also changed considerably in those years.

I put myself through my undergraduate programs by working about 40 hours a week in two rather low-paying part-time jobs on campus.  Though I didn't make much, I could walk to those jobs and also fit them in between classes, so it made more sense than being a server or something else off campus.  It kept me out of trouble until the weekend too.  I took out no loans and came out debt free.  Because my grades were good, I went to grad school for free and received a stipend to live off of too.  I took out a small loan, invested it, made some money, paid back the principal, and once again was debt free.

I had to sacrifice some things in order to do this.  I didn't have the latest whatever was popular at the time, and I wasn't jetting off to Europe for a term of study.  I lived in the dorm because it was cheap, and when I got an apartment in the student ghetto, it was with three other guys (and occasionally one or more of our girlfriends) so we could keep the rent affordable.  We didn't have cable TV or any of the other luxuries around at that time.  There were two cars among all of us.

By contrast, many, if not most, of my students now are in apartments alone or with only one other person.  They're not slumming it in the traditional sense, but often are in some pretty swanky places.  They all have their own cars, along with the carnotes and insurance.  Monthly, they have $100 cell phone and data plans on $300 smartphones, $100 cable and Roadrunner bills, $60-70 for video games.  They have $500 laptops, $200 iPods, $100 sneakers, $200 dresses and other clothes for weekends.  They take trips -- and not just the classic road trips to another college, but get on planes and fly and stay in hotels.  They go out to eat several nights a week or more, and on weekends they spend their money not in the campus dives but in the pricier bars and restaurants off campus.

They expect to live their lives starting at 18, which is fine, but they do it by borrowing against the future.  We have discussions about the student loan "problem" in class and the recurring theme is that as much as they hate taking out loans they don't want to sacrifice for a few years anything in terms of the quality of life in order to be debt free.

On top of that, many of them come with unrealistic expectations about what college is about.  They assume all they have to do is get the degree and there will be a job waiting for them -- there has to be because it's someone else's responsibility to make sure that happens.  They don't learn anything beyond that, and as a result, they don't do much while they're in school to create opportunities and are less competitive when they graduate.  They put in minimal time.  College was always about being elite, and even then some people didn't get work in their field.  Now college is mainstream, and graduates are basically average, which hinders their getting jobs.

Not all students fit this mold, but enough do that that contributes to the "crisis."

Another thing that bothers me about Collins is his constant ragging on any field of study in the Humanities.  Let me say this, and only to make the point:  I graduated with two degrees in the Humanities and one in what marginally is in the social sciences.  Through teaching, writing, and consulting, I collectively make more money than anyone I know, including friends in engineering, business, and most medical jobs.  The notion that the field is what produces a successful person is silly; what makes the person successful is what they do in their field.

And I'm about to return to school for another degree.  I won't be going into debt for that degree either.

Great analysis.

[stevesh]

Another thing that bothers me about Collins is his constant ragging on any field of study in the Humanities.  Let me say this, and only to make the point:  I graduated with two degrees in the Humanities and one in what marginally is in the social sciences.  Through teaching, writing, and consulting, I collectively make more money than anyone I know, including friends in engineering, business, and most medical jobs.  The notion that the field is what produces a successful person is silly; what makes the person successful is what they do in their field.

Exactly right, though an accounting degree will always be more valuable than a degree in Aboriginal Women's Studies.

[fysisist]

...
Not all students fit this mold, but enough do that that contributes to the "crisis."

The reality is that a lot of these kids probably shouldn't be in college at all, or at least not at this point in their lives.  College is not for everyone.

[Marc.Knight]

The reality is that a lot of these kids probably shouldn't be in college at all, or at least not at this point in their lives.  College is not for everyone.

Very true.  Approximately 50% of university registrants never graduate with a degree within a normal four year time period, if ever.  They're too busy staying up late listening to the suckage coming from George Noory.

[HorrorReporter]

Very true.  Approximately 50% of university registrants never graduate with a degree within a normal four year time period, if ever.  They're too busy staying up late listening to the suckage coming from George Noory.

If they are listening to Noory they most likely are also heavy binge drinkers from 1am to 5am ET

[VtaGeezer]

Tonight, another hardcore conspiracy-truther zealot (after another treacle-soaked "spiritual awakener" to keep the losers on board).  What was verboten under AB is becoming pretty common   Premiere has clearly ordered a hard right course correction.  Wells warms up in the weekend bull pen as Glenn Beck Lite while Premiere hopes to find GN in a compromising position with a goat so he can be fired.    George "Milquetoast" Noory isn't bright enough to see the handwriting on the wall.

[HorrorReporter]

Okay with everything that we say about George Noory here it just begs the question, after seeing shows like what will be on tonight. Does George himself ever actually have the intelligence to get sick of his own topics? Does he even care anymore about the show? Does he ever wonder, what is Art Bell thinking of me right now? Or, is he just going along for the ride?

[EnterDragon]

Noory made some good points in last night's show about student loans and the responsibility of the university. Seriously, I'm surprised no one mentioned it on here. Noory came up with some good points, such as lower payments for students who are unemployed. And Universities should give a student a percentage of the chances of job placement, based on their major. If the chances are low, then they should pick a different major. That I agree with.

[HorrorReporter]

Noory made some good points in last night's show about student loans and the responsibility of the university. Seriously, I'm surprised no one mentioned it on here. Noory came up with some good points, such as lower payments for students who are unemployed. And Universities should give a student a percentage of the chances of job placement, based on their major. If the chances are low, then they should pick a different major. That I agree with.

He probably is worried about the Little Dicker and school. And at one point Tea Party Noory said college should be free.

[Frys Girl]

Google law school scam. The titanic is about to sink.

[ziznak]

At first glance I thought George was interviewing Marshall Mathers last night...and I was confused. Thankfully it was actually Marshall Masters informing us that he likes Major Dames'

It would be great to see noory interview emenem...lol   and thanx for the info on the march 25th show!

[Frys Girl]

Noory made some good points in last night's show about student loans and the responsibility of the university. Seriously, I'm surprised no one mentioned it on here. Noory came up with some good points, such as lower payments for students who are unemployed. And Universities should give a student a percentage of the chances of job placement, based on their major. If the chances are low, then they should pick a different major. That I agree with.

Honey, schools lie. Law schools are doing this a lot. Also, there must be choice. I liked the guest for saying that college is overrated.

[b_dubb]

Google law school scam. The titanic is about to sink.

uhhhhhhh whhhhat? guess I should google this?

[Marc.Knight]

Honey, schools lie. Law schools are doing this a lot. Also, there must be choice. I liked the guest for saying that college is overrated.

If only we lived in a fantasy land where exactly the same number of new jobs were available every year to match exactly the same number of graduates.  Add to the problem the strange American company practice of constantly hiring people from all over the world to come here to be engineers, medical doctors, and other technical specialists when we have hundreds of thousands of unemployed graduates right here. 

The cost of most things has lost all sense of proportionality and a university education absolutely tops the list.  We're a country now where engineers and lawyers can make less money than a licensed plumber.  The plumber ends up with no debt and benefits by having more years to work and save money instead of going to university. 

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I actually think the cost of college isn't that bad. The cost of college in a city center though (such as Washington, Los Angeles, or NY) or a top school on US News and World Report is astronomically high. The people that are hit the hardest are parents with some middle range income ($70,000+).

If you are willing to move to a rural area there are actually some pretty good bargains.
You could get out of school with  3 years of JC and 3 years at a university (6 years should be enough to finish even the harder degrees) for around 30-35k.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Tonight, another hardcore conspiracy-truther zealot (after another treacle-soaked "spiritual awakener" to keep the losers on board).  What was verboten under AB is becoming pretty common   Premiere has clearly ordered a hard right course correction.  Wells warms up in the weekend bull pen as Glenn Beck Lite while Premiere hopes to find GN in a compromising position with a goat so he can be fired.    George "Milquetoast" Noory isn't bright enough to see the handwriting on the wall.

Vta, are you a professional writer?  Verboten!
I think the only thing topic I would say was verboten on AB was when people tried to quote bible scripture. AB put a stop to that right away.

Also, a couple months before you hit a bullseye with the perfect word for Noory as a host-- "credulous"

[VtaGeezer]

I think the only thing topic I would say was verboten on AB was when people tried to quote bible scripture. AB put a stop to that right away.

Also, a couple months before you hit a bullseye with the perfect word for Noory as a host-- "credulous"

As I recall, Bell had no patience with 9/11 truthers and I heard him once say, after Noory had done it, that he would not have put Alex Jones on C2C.  My memory may be fading, but aside from broad, generalized NWO stuff, the UFO disclosure question, and Hoagland's cockamamie Mars and Moon conspiracy theories, Bell didn't get into evil govt  conspiracy crap, though there was no shortage of cranks eager to talk about it.  Bell usually gave callers making the kind of dark accusations now heard commonly with Noory short shrift and dumped them quickly.  It was no coincidence that Steve Quayle was off C2C for a long while until Noory brought him back; and screwier than ever. 

[analog kid]

As I recall, Bell had no patience with 9/11 truthers and I heard him once say, after Noory had done it, that he would not have put Alex Jones on C2C.  My memory may be fading, but aside from broad, generalized NWO stuff, the UFO disclosure question, and Hoagland's cockamamie Mars and Moon conspiracy theories, Bell didn't get into evil govt  conspiracy crap, though there was no shortage of cranks eager to talk about it.  Bell usually gave callers making the kind of dark accusations now heard commonly with Noory short shrift and dumped them quickly.  It was no coincidence that Steve Quayle was off C2C for a long while until Noory brought him back; and screwier than ever.

I haven't personally heard any concrete evidence in early classic coast shows, but supposedly, Art was big on anti-government during Waco - which he covered quite a bit, and from what I remember reading years ago, inspired some crazy militia types to take action of some sort, which ended badly. He thereafter dropped the focus on that type of stuff and became more cautious and even tempered. Text I read suggested somewhat that he was made to. No idea how true that is, though.