Random Political Thoughts

[b_dubb]

... and ask them to act more like adults instead of using the politic forum as their own personal shit boxes.

No one is more guilty of this than QK.  And I'm glad that turd got flushed.

[Ben Shockley]

Karl was such a principled, manly man.  He wasn't worn down!  He was just run out.

[PB the Deplorable]

I think that question should be directed at PB..he's the one who says you have one. Despite me pointing out that it isn't universal or even exclusive..I'm sure he'll be along to clarify that though. I was just quoting.

Well, since you asked - I think your question is how did that tweet get published if we have such a Left wing Media

The linked item was at Breitbart.  Hardly a part of the Left wing Media.  I'm surprised a keen observer of the US such as yourself is unaware of Breitbart and his work.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well,the linked item was at Breitbart.  Hardly a [art of the Left wing Media.  I'm surprised a keen observer of the US such as yourself doesn't know about Breitbart and his work

Indeed so. Ergo the media isn't exclusively 'left wing'...


Carry on.

[PB the Deplorable]

Indeed so. Ergo the media isn't exclusively 'left wing'...


Carry on.

No one said the Media was exclusively 'left wing'.

A lot of things changed in the 60s and 70s.  Protesters realized they could affect policy.  The Media realized they could bring down a sitting President.  The follow up was that everything became more political.  The same people that were infiltrating our schools, our bureaucracy, our other institutions, were also infiltrating the Media.  The news was no longer just 'the news', it became in part a propaganda tool.

The D's moved Leftward and Big Media went with them, but Big Media no longer had a monopoly on news and commentary - Rush broke the information whiteout with talk radio.  Soon after the internet became popular and anyone could have a news website.  Balance was restored somewhat.

So yeah, there are some bright spots out there.

[Yorkshire pud]

No one said the Media was exclusively 'left wing'.

- Rush broke the information whiteout with talk radio.  Soon after the internet became popular and anyone could have a news website.  Balance was restored somewhat.

So yeah, there are some bright spots out there.

Rush Limbaugh you mean? And he's balanced? I see....As for the internet being a font of journo's...Yeah, Alex Jones is in that category? News website is fine as long as it's news and not gossip, out of context and biased crap. So that eliminates 99.999% of it then.

[PB the Deplorable]

Rush Limbaugh you mean? And he's balanced? I see....

I didn't say it was balanced, I said it was balance.  Kind of a big difference - but you already knew that.

The fact is, Big Media no longer has a monopoly on what we hear, and what they decide not to report for political reasons.  When someone else provides the missing reporting and opinion pieces, it's called balance.  Every news source, every person here, have their own biases (their own views, their own preferences, their own sense of what is important).  People like Rush admit to theirs, those in Big Media do not.

[MV/Liberace!]

People like Rush admit to theirs, those in Big Media do not.

exactly.  and libs assume that when i listen to rush, i'm not capable of separating opinion from fact or reaching my own conclusions.

[onan]

exactly.  and libs assume that when i listen to rush, i'm not capable of separating opinion from fact or reaching my own conclusions.

I dread the potential shit storm by pointing out that Rush doesn't in any effective way correct his large accumulation of errors. The sources I could post would be attacked as misleading rather than the actuality of the facts.

I understand listening to Rush Limbaugh, he is engaging and he is talented.

I would suspect that anyone knowing that another listens to Rush Limbaugh on a regular basis would conclude there must be some affinity to his opinions. Not saying there is an affinity, but I can see how one would get to that thought.

As far as other media and their mistakes... again, the sources would be attacked as biased with little regard to the biases presented on one particular news channel.

[PB the Deplorable]

... As far as other media and their mistakes...

Their biased reporting and cockamamie opinion pieces are not 'mistakes'

If they were just mistakes, every single Left-wing Media outlet would not make the same 'mistake' at the same time - ignoring or burying the same stories, highlighting the same aspects of the stories they do run, issuing similar opinion pieces in lockstep...

[FightTheFuture]

I`m not a Matthews fan, but I felt bad for the ol` boy on this one. A bit embarrassing.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/chris-matthews-live-blooper

[NowhereInTime]

Surprise, surprise.  A "maker" tries to beat up a "taker."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/pinkberry-founder-prison_n_4966722.html

I'm sure Paper*Boy, FTF, and Herr Albrecht approve.

[West of the Rockies]

Okay, so I don't have permission from the league to do this, but I will propose a trade on behalf of Liberals to Conservatives...

We will give you the crafty veteran Joe Biden in exchange for young prospect Paul Rand....

Both players struggle at times with the press.  Big Joe can still bring it though and can be relied upon to pitch a few innings of solid (comic) relief.

The youngster (by comparison), Rand, comes from a long line of majorly minor leaguers and is a crowd favorite.  He is a little wild but shows potential.

In addition to Biden, the Libs will offer $47 in CASH and a politician to be named later (no less than an early 2020 presidential-hopeful).

Deal?

(And don't tell me this is like Fregosi for Nolan Ryan... Fregosi made the difference between fourth and fifth place for the Mets that year!)

[Lunger]

Okay, so I don't have permission from the league to do this, but I will propose a trade on behalf of Liberals to Conservatives...

We will give you the crafty veteran Joe Biden in exchange for young prospect Paul Rand....

Both players struggle at times with the press.  Big Joe can still bring it though and can be relied upon to pitch a few innings of solid (comic) relief.

The youngster (by comparison), Rand, comes from a long line of majorly minor leaguers and is a crowd favorite.  He is a little wild but shows potential.

In addition to Biden, the Libs will offer $47 in CASH and a politician to be named later (no less than an early 2020 presidential-hopeful).

Deal?

(And don't tell me this is like Fregosi for Nolan Ryan... Fregosi made the difference between fourth and fifth place for the Mets that year!)

No!  You can keep Biden.

[West of the Rockies]

Just in case it wasn't crystal clear, my proposed "trade" was meant entirely as humor.  I was trying to inject a little levity into a thread that is generally pretty toxic.  Oh, well... if you have to explain it, I guess it ain't funny.

[NowhereInTime]

Just in case it wasn't crystal clear, my proposed "trade" was meant entirely as humor.  I was trying to inject a little levity into a thread that is generally pretty toxic.  Oh, well... if you have to explain it, I guess it ain't funny.

Sorry, West, that trade's a life long sore spot with Met fans...

[FightTheFuture]

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims, may be the most oppressive.


-- C.S. Lewis

[FightTheFuture]

This is (not) shocking!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reporter-wh-press-secretary-gets-questions-reporters-press-briefing_785607.html

[FightTheFuture]

Smells like hypocrisy to me:

http://www.examiner.com/article/drudge-editor-epa-flushes-their-feces-directly-potomac-river-untreated

[Unquenchable Angst]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/if-u-s-soldiers-were-really-defending-our-freedoms/

[Unquenchable Angst]

I was actually hoping that comet would come around the Sun in chunks and send a couple ton piece into Washington and about 100 pound piece into Wall Street-NY. Take out the three branches, K-Street, Pentagon and the Bankster-Gangsters. That would re-order our priorities. Stop the divide and conquer paradigm that has everyone's' sphincters so locked up  and get people cooperating. Get rid of all the Nazis and Communists, propagandists, lobbyists, politicians that have been compromised by their addictions, crooked DC attorneys, CFR and CFR whores, poverty pimps~~~~~Then maybe we could have some peace and not have all these turds blaming each other and calling each other names . I hope I live long enough not to read someone shit the race card at somebody else.

As far as the "Cuban Missile Crises" Ultimately that was resolved when Kennedy agreed to pull Thor IRBM's out of Turkey if Khrushchev pulls USSR's missiles out of Cuba.

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm thinking of starting a movement.  I'll call it Occupy Macy's.

We'd smash in their windows, burn the displays, and set our tents up over by the cafeteria.  When the police come, we'd be ready with barricades, bullhorns, moral outrage, and ignorant slogans.

We would claim not to have leaders and would make no demands - we'd just take over.  We'd start with the usual dirty scroungy flea ridden dumbfucks who are always around and up for this sort of thing, but hopefully we'll get a few regular folks - maybe a fireman, a nurse, a soldier or a couple of teachers to join our movement. 

Why Macy's?  Because the place reeks of capitalism.   They are some of the worst of the capitalist exploiters.  They buy merchandise at one price and sell it for a higher price.  Profiteering at the expense of the rest of us who don't have access to their distributors.  They don't pay a living wage to any but the top handful of their greedy executives.  Same with health care - it's given only to the already rich plutocrats who run the place.  When rank and file employees aren't needed after the Christmas rush, they are simply fired and thrown out on the street - while those at the top celebrate and reward themselves with bonuses, stock options, and raises.   

These Crony Capitalists have been given easy access to loans from Wall Street Banks and join with other stores like Wal-Mart to lobby OUR representatives.  They exploit their access to get sweetheart deals while the rest of us get screwed.

Since their level of profit disproportionately hurts women and the poor, it follows that they are racist and misogynist.  Based on what they charge for their products, they must hate old people, kids, women, immigrants, and minorities too. 

Speaking of Christmas, these are the people who continue pushing the old superstitions on us and holding us back as a society.  All to generate more sales at year end just to please their rich shareholders.  They continue to push their religion on the rest of us all year around, with their sales and holiday merchandise.

Founded on the back of the poor in 1858, they've enriched themselves off the rest of us for far too long.  Most if not all their stores and parking lots are built on top of land stolen from the Indians.


OCCUPY MACY*S.  #Jail the exploiters.

[SciFiAuthor]

I'm thinking of starting a movement.  I'll call it Occupy Macy's.

We'd smash in their windows, burn the displays, and set our tents up over by the cafeteria.  When the police come, we'd be ready with barricades, bullhorns, moral outrage, and ignorant slogans.

We would claim not to have leaders and would make no demands - we'd just take over.  We'd start with the usual dirty scroungy flea ridden dumbfucks who are always around and up for this sort of thing, but hopefully we'll get a few regular folks - maybe a fireman, a nurse, a soldier or a couple of teachers to join our movement. 

Why Macy's?  Because the place reeks of capitalism.   They are some of the worst of the capitalist exploiters.  They buy merchandise at one price and sell it for a higher price.  Profiteering at the expense of the rest of us who don't have access to their distributors.  They don't pay a living wage to any but the top handful of their greedy executives.  Same with health care - it's given only to the already rich plutocrats who run the place.  When rank and file employees aren't needed after the Christmas rush, they are simply fired and thrown out on the street - while those at the top celebrate and reward themselves with bonuses, stock options, and raises.   

These Crony Capitalists have been given easy access to loans from Wall Street Banks and join with other stores like Wal-Mart to lobby OUR representatives.  They exploit their access to get sweetheart deals while the rest of us get screwed.

Since their level of profit disproportionately hurts women and the poor, it follows that they are racist and misogynist.  Based on what they charge for their products, they must hate old people, kids, women, immigrants, and minorities too. 

Speaking of Christmas, these are the people who continue pushing the old superstitions on us and holding us back as a society.  All to generate more sales at year end just to please their rich shareholders.  They continue to push their religion on the rest of us all year around, with their sales and holiday merchandise.

Founded on the back of the poor in 1858, they've enriched themselves off the rest of us for far too long.  Most if not all their stores and parking lots are built on top of land stolen from the Indians.


OCCUPY MACY*S.  #Jail the exploiters.

I think you should go for the gusto and really stir the pot. Replace Macy's with Apple.

[PB the Deplorable]

I think you should go for the gusto and really stir the pot. Replace Macy's with Apple.

Yeah, maybe...

But look how Macy's operates - most of the low-pay lousy-benefits jobs they offer are to women.  At the end of their winter season money grubbing, the people they mostly lay-off are women.  Or how about their famous cosmetics counters - aren't they perpetuating the stereotype and telling women and girls they are 'less than' unless they buy all that makeup and perfume and whatever else Macy's is selling (not to mention the price gouging and huge markups for these products)?

The way the store is decorated, the way merchandise is displayed, the ads they send out - it's all done to appeal specifically to women.

There is a war on women going on at Macy's

[SciFiAuthor]

Yeah, maybe...

But look how Macy's operates - most of the low-pay lousy-benefits jobs they offer are to women.  At the end of their winter season money grubbing, the people they mostly lay-off are women.  Or how about their famous cosmetics counters - aren't they perpetuating the stereotype and telling women and girls they are 'less than' unless they buy all that makeup and perfume and whatever else Macy's is selling (not to mention the price gouging and huge markups for these products)?

The way the store is decorated, the way merchandise is displayed, the ads they send out - it's all done to appeal specifically to women.

There is a war on women going on at Macy's

Clearly the solution is to put subsidized abortion clinics in Macy's, sort of like the Optometrists in Walmart, and then mandate that Macy's make large campaign contributions to the Democratic Party. In return they get an Obamacare exemption. That'll level the field and make everything equal and fair. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[NowhereInTime]

Clearly the solution is to put subsidized abortion clinics in Macy's, sort of like the Optometrists in Walmart, and then mandate that Macy's make large campaign contributions to the Democratic Party. In return they get an Obamacare exemption. That'll level the field and make everything equal and fair. Yeah, that's the ticket.

P*B thinks he's being clever but I'm not taking the bait. 
Kudos to him for trying, though.

[SciFiAuthor]

P*B thinks he's being clever but I'm not taking the bait. 
Kudos to him for trying, though.

Yeah, I'm helping him out. The occupy movement is just another jealousy-based political wedge to pit the have nots against the haves. It's been used a thousand times over the last 300 years by ideologue movements looking for political gain and they manipulate people by playing on their emotional reactions through the use of wedges and slogans. Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Nazis, you name it, they all used the same tactics.

Unfortunately in the past it never seems to end well and usually turns violent. You had thousands of kids ready to throw bricks there for a while, good job! And they still may. For no real reason. And then they'll eventually start throwing them at each other. Then you.

Don't fall for it. There are very few billionaires in this country and if you collected up all their accumulated billions, along with the millionaries, you might be able to run the military for a single year, but that's about it. Reasonable is good. Fashionable movements are not.

[West of the Rockies]

But isn't it interesting how "my movement" is always good and "your movement" is always bad?  From PB's perspective, Occupy protestors are all dupes or thugs.  TPer's, I am guessing, from PB's perspective are noble and wise and law-abiding.  From another's perspective, the TP are a bunch of misanthropic, uninformed knuckleheads while the Occupiers are all sunshine and bunnies.  Curious how "the blood of tyrants must be spilled" is perfectly reasonable from one perspective, but the idea that upsetting the status quo on Wall Street is pure thuggery.  We live in interesting times.

[NowhereInTime]

Yeah, I'm helping him out...

Don't fall for it. There are very few billionaires in this country and if you collected up all their accumulated billions, along with the millionaries, you might be able to run the military for a single year, but that's about it. Reasonable is good. Fashionable movements are not.

1) Yes, doing your usual bang up job.

2) Your response is typical of conservative toadies who feel some obligation to protect the wealth of others, no matter how nefarious the method of acquisition.

That, and you truly have no concept of how much money the 1% really now control in this country.  But you're a fiction writer, so you're used to making shit up.

[Unquenchable Angst]

http://patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show?id=2600775%3ATopic%3A6636137&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic