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Started by MV/Liberace!, February 08, 2012, 10:50:42 AM

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: onan on August 07, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
Would you buy your chicken sandwich from a fundamentalist muslim? To a large extent, I don't care what your beliefs are as long as you do not judge me by those standards. Otherwise I do.

I actually faced this dilemma...and the answer is yes. An owner of a local fast food establishment is a Lebanese emigre, who is pretty fervent in his dismay with the USA's foreign policy. He's a smart enough businessman to not trumpet these views, but I've known him a long time, and have been privy to his personal politics. I don't know if he's a fundamentalist Muslim per se, but does abide by Ramadan fasting, does an occasional hajj. But he's no proselytizer and I've never really had a cross word with him. But it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was an Al Qaeda symp...
             Ironically, best thing on the menu..."The Steak Bomb".

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: The General on August 07, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Let's use Ben and Jerry's as an example of the opposite end of the spectrum.  I find their politics nauseating.  I find their ice cream delicious.  I gladly give them my money because their product is good, and then they have the right to do with that money whatever they want within the confines of the law.


i have stopped giving ben and jerry's my money.  it's not because of their politics, though.  it's because their product turns my ass into a volcano.

onan

Quote from: MV on August 07, 2012, 01:59:12 PM

i have stopped giving ben and jerry's my money.  it's not because of their politics, though.  it's because their product turns my ass into a volcano.

my ass salutes your ass.

analog kid

don't much like the idea of fast food prepared by teenagers..


ziznak

When you're paying somebody shit to make your food or watch your kids you have to remember that you are probly getting what you paid for.  Remember that.


3OctaveFart

Multiple news reports indicating Mittens has chosen Paul Ryan as his running mate.

Zircon

MV, Ben and Jerry's little tubs of blubber isn't my family's favorite. Anything other than Vermont maple syrup (remember Vermont Maid?) is all we care to get out of Vermont. Hell, they have a socialist senator as well as "Leaky" Lehee!hee! and the "Catamounts" at UV don't even have a football team. Pussies in my book. Anyway, we like an Oklahoma produced ice cream from a place called Braums and a couple of other national products.

I'm concerned that Romney is probably going to select Paul Ryan. If the GOP is trying to gain the US Senate, they'll need as many senators as they already have and then add to it. I'm thinking Romney is going to lose. With the Supreme Court going 5-4 in approving Obamacare I figure why not expect an encore and expect Obama to win a second term? Ryan better not give up his senate seat as he'll probably want it back come 2013.

Quote from: Zircon on August 10, 2012, 11:09:24 PM
... Ryan better not give up his senate seat as he'll probably want it back come 2013.
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Theydont give up thier seats.  For example unfortunately McCain is still there.  And John Kerry from the 04 race, also unfortunately.

HAL 9000

Quote from: Zircon on August 10, 2012, 11:09:24 PMRyan better not give up his senate seat as he'll probably want it back come 2013.

Err... umm... Ryan can't give up a Senate seat, cuz he's a member of the House of Representatives from Wisconsin's 1st district.

http://paulryan.house.gov/district/

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: HAL 9000 on August 11, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Err... umm... Ryan can't give up a Senate seat, cuz he's a member of the House of Representatives from Wisconsin's 1st district.

http://paulryan.house.gov/district/

         Don't clutter this up with facts and accurate information. Please, it's quite uncouth.

l3urton

COOL thing about forums.... when you type some BS its here for a while.... WRAPPED up huh.... ROMNEY killed a mans WIFE  by firing him from a  job 7 years before LOL. if this country elects OBUMMER  they deserve what happens next. Like California. RAN by DEMOCRATS true and threw. California DESERVES to be  as broke as it is. and i live here im happy for it. LOVE seeing the cities  go under from DEM spending.  good mocking stuff. Funny from time these comments were made on they are same blah blah blah RON   bah blah blah Ron was a silly old man with a few good ideas.  but HE cant be trusted with  stuff outside of America. PERIOD. so it would seem OLD ROM and his running mate are QUITE DIFF then bummer and his. LOL  so all these they are the same comments...  you  DO knoiw where you  can stick those. im no rom  fan,100%.  but the guy does know how to run a corp. ( thats a PLUS in my book)  he knows when  you need to be fired. NOTHING WRONG with being fired from a CORP thats failing... NOTHING. sure it sucks... but WRONG. no JOB  OWES you a dam thing. BUMMER  what has he created..... ? NOTHING. never worked  a day in his life. working for GOV dont  count.  and if you call what he did in GOV as work u are  KOOOKOOO,  so it boils down to Do you want BUMMER for 4 more years or rather have ROM who might give you chance of  pulling back bummercare. AND after hearing this VA Drs GOV   help show tonight. YOU think i want GOV running healthcare. LOOK how GOV treats MEN and women who fight for them.... Some how you think GOV running our halthcare will be better....  if thats the case i got  some shadow people to sell you.  OH any BUMMER fan please post   some of BUMMERS TRUTHS....  pleasse as far as i can tell he lies EVERYTIME he opens his mouth. and no matter HOW many times he asks for TAX RETURNS from one guy...  WE STILL WANT TO KNOW WHY  BUMMER ECON SUCKS lol. he cant DIVERT for ever lol

Zircon

Quote from: HAL 9000 on August 11, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Err... umm... Ryan can't give up a Senate seat, cuz he's a member of the House of Representatives from Wisconsin's 1st district.

http://paulryan.house.gov/district/
You're absolutely right on that HAL. I was wondering when someone would point that out. I had actually forgot I made that mistake since it has been awhile. Thanks for reading my rant.

Zircon

Quote from: l3urton on August 21, 2012, 05:44:38 AM
COOL thing about forums.... when you type some BS its here for a while.... WRAPPED up huh.... ROMNEY killed a mans WIFE  by firing him from a  job 7 years before LOL. if this country elects OBUMMER  they deserve what happens next. Like California. RAN by DEMOCRATS true and threw. California DESERVES to be  as broke as it is. and i live here im happy for it. LOVE seeing the cities  go under from DEM spending.  good mocking stuff. Funny from time these comments were made on they are same blah blah blah RON   bah blah blah Ron was a silly old man with a few good ideas.  but HE cant be trusted with  stuff outside of America. PERIOD. so it would seem OLD ROM and his running mate are QUITE DIFF then bummer and his. LOL  so all these they are the same comments...  you  DO knoiw where you  can stick those. im no rom  fan,100%.  but the guy does know how to run a corp. ( thats a PLUS in my book)  he knows when  you need to be fired. NOTHING WRONG with being fired from a CORP thats failing... NOTHING. sure it sucks... but WRONG. no JOB  OWES you a dam thing. BUMMER  what has he created..... ? NOTHING. never worked  a day in his life. working for GOV dont  count.  and if you call what he did in GOV as work u are  KOOOKOOO,  so it boils down to Do you want BUMMER for 4 more years or rather have ROM who might give you chance of  pulling back bummercare. AND after hearing this VA Drs GOV   help show tonight. YOU think i want GOV running healthcare. LOOK how GOV treats MEN and women who fight for them.... Some how you think GOV running our halthcare will be better....  if thats the case i got  some shadow people to sell you.  OH any BUMMER fan please post   some of BUMMERS TRUTHS....  pleasse as far as i can tell he lies EVERYTIME he opens his mouth. and no matter HOW many times he asks for TAX RETURNS from one guy...  WE STILL WANT TO KNOW WHY  BUMMER ECON SUCKS lol. he cant DIVERT for ever lol

I had to decipher some of what you posted but you appear to have a rather solid understanding of the bullshit that is happening.

Yes we can!  Obama helping college students spell out 'Ohio' during a recent campaign stop.

Zircon

Well P*B, it depends. If you start on the right of the picture and move left - and you view the short guy as actually trying to form an "O" then it works. O-I-H-O => mirror => O-H-I-O. Either that or the chubby one at the left end is the only one who knows what the hell he is doing?

30Fart ... then that is a damn smart "cat" (Mittens)? If not then it is a stupid name for a dog.

coaster

Quote from: Zircon on August 27, 2012, 09:18:28 PM
Well P*B, it depends. If you start on the right of the picture and move left - and you view the short guy as actually trying to form an "O" then it works.
bingo. that pictures obviously been flipped.

Quote from: coaster on August 27, 2012, 09:26:47 PM
bingo. that pictures obviously been flipped.
More fair and balanced reporting from our intrepid paper boy.  Apparently the devious left wingers are now insisting that we read from right to left.

We're the ones we're waiting for

HAL 9000

Quote from: coaster on August 27, 2012, 09:26:47 PMbingo. that pictures obviously been flipped.

Except, of course, that it is not flipped. Perhaps you were being facetious.

Three points of proof it is correctly oriented, with the minor one first:

1) Research of archived pictures of Obama show him wearing his watch on his left arm, same as in the picture.

2) Mens' shirts always button with the buttons on the right/underlying flap, and the button-hole flap (left-side) overlapping the right, which is consistent with the original picture. Womens' upper garments are traditionally opposite.

3) The belt buckle orientation is correct for the man second from left.



Washington Post reporter who implied first pic was 'photoshopped' apologizes here:
http://twitchy.com/2012/08/22/bias-doh-egg-on-face-wapo-wrongly-claimed-obama-ohio-flub-magically-photoshopped/

Original pic was tweeted at 10:35 a.m. EDT
https://twitter.com/CHRISMAL0NEY/status/238283278925328384/photo/1


Obama campaign tweets another pic at 7:49 p.m. EDT
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/238060326996832256/photo/1


It would seem they originally made a mistake, then corrected it. My vote will not be based on Obama (or a group he was with) misspelling Obama's 57th state.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: HAL 9000 on August 27, 2012, 10:43:49 PM
2) Mens' shirts always button with the buttons on the right/underlying flap, and the button-hole flap (left-side) overlapping the right, which is consistent with the original picture.


that's what i was looking for.


Sardondi

Quote from: coaster on August 27, 2012, 09:26:47 PM
bingo. that pictures obviously been flipped.

Check the shirt pocket: left side = not flipped.

*edit* ahem Now I see HAL's and MV's posts, which say pretty much the same thing.

b_dubb

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/world/middleeast/court-rules-israel-wasnt-at-fault-in-rachel-corries-death.html?_r=1&hp

Court Rules Israel Wasn’t at Fault in U.S. Activist’s Death

of COURSE the Israeli court didn't find Israel at fault

McPhallus

Flipped or no, Obama is a douche.

Zircon

Quote from: HAL 9000 on August 27, 2012, 10:43:49 PM
Except, of course, that it is not flipped. Perhaps you were being facetious.

Three points of proof it is correctly oriented, with the minor one first:

1) Research of archived pictures of Obama show him wearing his watch on his left arm, same as in the picture.

2) Mens' shirts always button with the buttons on the right/underlying flap, and the button-hole flap (left-side) overlapping the right, which is consistent with the original picture. Womens' upper garments are traditionally opposite.

3) The belt buckle orientation is correct for the man second from left.



Washington Post reporter who implied first pic was 'photoshopped' apologizes here:
http://twitchy.com/2012/08/22/bias-doh-egg-on-face-wapo-wrongly-claimed-obama-ohio-flub-magically-photoshopped/

Original pic was tweeted at 10:35 a.m. EDT
https://twitter.com/CHRISMAL0NEY/status/238283278925328384/photo/1


Obama campaign tweets another pic at 7:49 p.m. EDT
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/238060326996832256/photo/1


It would seem they originally made a mistake, then corrected it. My vote will not be based on Obama (or a group he was with) misspelling Obama's 57th state.
HAL, we are usually at odds but you actually studied the photograph. Those additional electoral votes ought to put Obama over the top (states 51 through 57). I think Obama takes Ohio - heavy with unions. I think Romney takes Wisconsin, Michigan and Indiana from the traditional Midwest (Iowa is a tossup).

A few are mistakenly calling this a blowout win for Romney. No, it will be close - electorally - either way.

Zircon

Quote from: b_dubb on August 28, 2012, 06:39:33 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/world/middleeast/court-rules-israel-wasnt-at-fault-in-rachel-corries-death.html?_r=1&hp

Court Rules Israel Wasn’t at Fault in U.S. Activist’s Death

of COURSE the Israeli court didn't find Israel at fault
I may be treading on thin ice here but ... was the activist Jewish?

b_dubb

I just really think Romney would make a terrible President. Sure the Board of Directors and Shareholders would make out like bandits. Everyone else? Screwed.

McPhallus

Quote from: b_dubb on August 29, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
I just really think Romney would make a terrible President. Sure the Board of Directors and Shareholders would make out like bandits. Everyone else? Screwed.

* > Obama-Biden

Quote from: b_dubb on August 29, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
I just really think Romney would make a terrible President. Sure the Board of Directors and Shareholders would make out like bandits. Everyone else? Screwed.

Customers and employees at Staples seem happy.  I remember getting absolutely gouged for office supplies before they came along.

Or after he left Bain.  Did everyone but the 'shareholders' get screwed when he rescued the 2002 Olympics in Utah?   Ever wonder how a mere corportate raider got elected as a Republican in the very liberal state of Massachusets?  Were most people happy with him?  Did he screw everyone but the 'shareholders' there?

We know Obama is a complete failure, lies about pretty much everything, and blames all his problems on someone else.  You might want to expand your news sources.

onan

I just love the Romney love. Many that are posting about how great Romney will be must have short memories or be able to talk out of both sides of their two faces.


by Gregg Jackson

QuoteMitt Romney, Fiscal and Social Liberal:
• Unilaterally, illegally & unconstitutionally instituted same-sex “marriage” falsely claiming the “court ordered him to.”

• Signed the forerunner to Obamacare (Romneycare) into law which includes $50 tax-subsidized elective surgical abortions including late-term abortions into law (3 years AFTER his fake “pro-life conversion.”)

• Boosted funding for homosexual “education” starting in kindergarten.

• Opposed a ban on homosexual scoutmasters.

• Promised the homosexual Republican “Log Cabin Republicans” he wouldn’t oppose “gay marriage” in return for their endorsement.

• Instituted a quasi-socialist healthcare plan endorsed by Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and Planned Parenthood that destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy.

• Increased taxes and fees by close to a billion dollars which destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts.

• Voted # 8 RINO by Human Events.

• Passed over Republican lawyers for three quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he faced and nominated 2 open homosexuals.

• Criticized Joint Chief’s of Staff, Peter Pace for saying that homosexual acts were “immoral.”

• Supported passage at the state level of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which would force churches and other religious organizations to hire homosexuals and transvestites or face criminal fines and prosecution.

• Romney supported McCain-Feingold “campaign finance reform”, McCain-Kennedy “comprehensive immigration reform” (i.e. amnesty), and parts of the McCain-Lieberman “carbon cap and trade” bill and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts.

Not that I would mind a president with these values. But I do have to wonder where Romney really stands on issues. And if he can do this much of a switch, what is coming next?

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