Random Political Thoughts

[Sardondi]

You really want to be Quick Karl's water boy? He's a misogynist rascist douche with endless insecurities and limited contextual ability. This is  your standard bearer?....

I kept waiting for someone in your camp to point out the very same thing I was forced to. But of course that didn't happen.

[NowhereInTime]

I kept waiting for someone in your camp to point out the very same thing I was forced to. But of course that didn't happen.

Well, no, Sardondi it didn't.  No one in my camp respects his always loaded opinions whether he actually stated them or not.  Is it right? Perhaps not, but this one's crossed too many lines to warrant that level of respect.  When he wants to play nice with the other kids I'm sure it won't happen again but that doesn't appear likely.

[West of the Rockies]

Except of course that's not what he fucking said. And btw, if you're going to go Full Godwin out of the chute, you might want to at least learn how to correctly spell the basic phrases.

I wasn't sure how to spell the term, Sardondi, so I did look it up online and encountered multiple spellings.  I chose one at random.  How many times have you encountered misspellings in my postings?  I think it's pretty damn rare.  Have you never beefed about grammar nazis here?

And, yeah, I went "the full Godwin" -- heaven knows I'm the first person to do that on these threads!  I mean, it's not like Obama has ever been compared to Hitler on this forum; it's not like liberals have ever been called fascists/socialists/communists/nazis on this forum. 

I've seen you several times now take great offense when you think someone is "telling you who you can and cannot like".  I took offense at SlowKarl's words and explained why in -- perhaps -- slightly hyperbolic terms.  Oh, oh!  I know!  I'll use the standard-issue conservative defense:  I was just joking and you people over-reacted!  Why, some of my best friends are blacks/gays/nazis.

For what little it's probably worth, Sardondi, I enjoy your postings.  You are a bright man with a broad range of interests.  In matters political, I think you've been duped.

[Yorkshire pud]

I wasn't sure how to spell the term, Sardondi, so I did look it up online and encountered multiple spellings.  I chose one at random.  How many times have you encountered misspellings in my postings?  I think it's pretty damn rare.  Have you never beefed about grammar nazis here?

And, yeah, I went "the full Godwin" -- heaven knows I'm the first person to do that on these threads!  I mean, it's not like Obama has ever been compared to Hitler on this forum; it's not like liberals have ever been called fascists/socialists/communists/nazis on this forum. 

I've seen you several times now take great offense when you think someone is "telling you who you can and cannot like".  I took offense at SlowKarl's words and explained why in -- perhaps -- slightly hyperbolic terms.  Oh, oh!  I know!  I'll use the standard-issue conservative defense:  I was just joking and you people over-reacted!  Why, some of my best friends are blacks/gays/nazis.

For what little it's probably worth, Sardondi, I enjoy your postings.  You are a bright man with a broad range of interests.  In matters political, I think you've been duped.

..and my bloody laptop is still broken. But does anyone care? No.. so I'm reduced to typing on a friggin phone..granted it is a rather nice new one, but it's not the same. Beer anyone?

[West of the Rockies]

Can you suggest a good pub?  I'll order a Guinness or Boddington's.  We'll play some darts and solve the world's problems!  Good luck with your laptop.  Mine was infested a few weeks ago with all manner of cyber bacteria.

[Yorkshire pud]

Can you suggest a good pub?  I'll order a Guinness or Boddington's.  We'll play some darts and solve the world's problems!  Good luck with your laptop.  Mine was infested a few weeks ago with all manner of cyber bacteria.

It's worse than that Jim; it's dead..reformatted..all good and then it got knocked on the floor....a seminal moment involving the finer higher planes reserved for such as the Dali Llama.anyway, profanities out of the way and behold a cracked screen....new screen at about $120 or a new laptop at $600-650? But new ones will have win 8..not zure what to do.

[analog kid]

And a nuthugger.

And a festering pustule.

[Sardondi]

Well, no, Sardondi it didn't.  No one in my camp respects his always loaded opinions whether he actually stated them or not.  Is it right? Perhaps not, but this one's crossed too many lines to warrant that level of respect.  When he wants to play nice with the other kids I'm sure it won't happen again but that doesn't appear likely.

Which makes it all okay, huh? You declare him "Other", and the rules don't apply, huh? Just sling that Nazi shit.

Because it's useful, isn't it?

I wasn't sure how to spell the term, Sardondi, so I did look it up online and encountered multiple spellings.  I chose one at random.  How many times have you encountered misspellings in my postings?  I think it's pretty damn rare.  Have you never beefed about grammar nazis here?

And, yeah, I went "the full Godwin" -- heaven knows I'm the first person to do that on these threads!  I mean, it's not like Obama has ever been compared to Hitler on this forum; it's not like liberals have ever been called fascists/socialists/communists/nazis on this forum. 

I've seen you several times now take great offense when you think someone is "telling you who you can and cannot like".  I took offense at SlowKarl's words and explained why in -- perhaps -- slightly hyperbolic terms.  Oh, oh!  I know!  I'll use the standard-issue conservative defense:  I was just joking and you people over-reacted!  Why, some of my best friends are blacks/gays/nazis.

For what little it's probably worth, Sardondi, I enjoy your postings.  You are a bright man with a broad range of interests.  In matters political, I think you've been duped.

And you're not being honest with yourself about this. You truly think it frees you to attack whoever as a Nazi because - I assume you're correct about this, although it's completely irrelevant - "it's not like Obama has(n't) ever been compared to Hitler on this forum"? Seriously? An attack on a favored national political figure - the President in fact - by unnamed parties, frees you to accuse someone you dislike for ideological reasons of being a Nazi? You can't believe that.

You messed up. You took a cheap shot. But you're not alone.

[onan]

Which makes it all okay, huh? You declare him "Other", and the rules don't apply, huh? Just sling that Nazi shit.

Because it's useful, isn't it?
And you're not being honest with yourself about this. You truly think it frees you to attack whoever as a Nazi because - I assume you're correct about this, although it's completely irrelevant - "it's not like Obama has(n't) ever been compared to Hitler on this forum"? Seriously? An attack on a favored national political figure - the President in fact - by unnamed parties, frees you to accuse someone you dislike for ideological reasons of being a Nazi? You can't believe that.

You messed up. You took a cheap shot. But you're not alone.

Yeah lets have a perfect argument... on the internet.

I went back and looked at a few threads since Karl has inserted himself. He more than anyone here has tossed the insults. Not that all of us aren't to some degree guilty...

I am sorry you guys are unhappy. Face it, you will never be happy, fuck you guys dwell in the shit; and you do so be cause you are incapable of entertaining that someone on the other side might have any legitimacy.

Yeah I am biased but so the fuck are you. And you know what my side hasn't done? Cheered at the fact if someone hasn't prepared for some acute perhaps fatal condition they would have to die. You know what my side hasn't done? Call the acting president a liar, in chamber, during a live broadcast. So I guess it is civility be damned... oh wait, the only practical solution is to draw sides and shoot the others.

Quit frothing at the mouth.

Oh and by the way Karl. I just sent the democratic party a $1000.00... I shit 100 dollar bills.

[Quick Karl]

WOW! I feel famous!

I never laughed so hard as when I read the Godwin reference - haven't heard that one in a long time! I recall people flinging the Nazi thing around when BUSH was in office, but hey, in the twilight zone world of liberal dis-intelligence, that was either OK or it was so long ago it is irrelevant much as is the LAW upon which this Country was founded (i.e. The Constitution and Bill of Rights), but blaming stuff on Bush to this very day, IS relevant.

This is just one of but many intellectual inconsistencies that I refuse to ignore so that emotional-children can pretend they are adding something relevant and/or constructive to a discussion.

Here's a clue; when your "integrity" vacillates depending on your emotional state, you have no integrity, and when someone points that out and you cry like, well, NWIT and onan, then you have even less integrity and no credibility.

In their world it is OK for them to hurl insults and degradations, but it is NOT OK for anyone to challenge their immature political or social views with arguments they cannot defeat with intelligence, thus the aforementioned Godwin reference.

Example:

Liberal: Life would be perfect if everyone would be nice to each other.
Intelligent Person: But history proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that people are not always nice to each other.
Liberal: NAZI

The entire point of the Wal-Mart discussion was that when any nutcase shops in Wal-Mart, they are SUPPORTING with their DOLLARS the agendas they whine about every day - but I know that concept is way beyond the comprehension of the two three (see below) cry-babies.

It is rather comical - yes, that means I am laughing at you and that I give zero credence to your arguments.

[analog kid]

WOW! I feel famous!

Are you going to go hog-wild with beans and barbecue?

Here's a clue; when your "integrity" vacillates depending on your emotional state, you have no integrity

That might be the most hypocritical thing I've seen all week.

[Quick Karl]

Are you going to go hog-wild with beans and barbecue?

"In their world it is OK for them to hurl insults and degradations, but it is NOT OK for anyone to challenge their immature political or social views with arguments they cannot defeat with intelligence".

[Quick Karl]

I am convinced, more than ever, that Alinsky's Rules for Radicals was developed wholly upon his observation of adolescents arguing.

[analog kid]

"In their world it is OK for them to hurl insults and degradations, but it is NOT OK for anyone to challenge their immature political or social views with arguments they cannot defeat with intelligence".

This from someone who did nothing but "hurl" insults when someone disagreed with your ridiculous fainting woman conspiracy. I appreciate your self-referential preoccupation with your own intellect though.

[NowhereInTime]

Which makes it all okay, huh? You declare him "Other", and the rules don't apply, huh? Just sling that Nazi shit.

Because it's useful, isn't it?

First, get your facts straight.  I never called anyone a Nazi.  I made a point of chastising Paper Boy because he (and for that matter you) keep baiting me with this Marx/Lenin/Chomsky/Alinsky/Mao horseshit while I refrain from using terms like "fascist" and "oligarch".
Second, Qunt Karl has made repeated rascist, classist, and misogynist statements to posters who don't share his decidedly warped point of view on eveything.
Third, when even West Of The Rockies, usually a voice of moderation on this board is calling Qunt Karl out, don't you think it deserves a minute's pause to reflect on his validity, or are you just spoiling or a fight?
Finally, don't you dare get sanctimonious about name slinging.  You consistently refer to the President as an "other". The day you stop with the Chomsky/Mao/yadayadayada is the day you get to be aggreived.

[RealCool Daddio]

I do not shop in Wal-Mart - ever. Mostly because I do not like having to deal with the people that work there, most of whom are recent immigrants from countries that resent Americans, and that do not speak comprehendible English, and who WILL work for the depressed wages that Wal-Mart thrives on, which undermines the viability of American Workers.

The Wal-Mart of today is NOT the Wal-Mart of Sam Walton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Walton Read it.

So, don't shop in Wal-Mart, and don't support amnesty for low wage illegal alien workers - but don't blame Wal-Mart and low wages on Ted Cruz, or me.

Put your money where your mouth is.

For someone who doesn't shop at Walmart, you sure seem to know a lot about the place.  Maybe you just wander the aisles in a stupor.

You know, speedy, you are the type of guy who would have visited a plantation, and the thing that would have disgusted you the most would have been that the African slaves hadn't even bothered to learn the local language.

[NowhereInTime]

I am convinced, more than ever, that Alinsky's Rules for Radicals was developed wholly upon his observation of adolescents arguing.

I am convinced, more than ever, the nurses will suffocate you with a pillow.

[Quick Karl]

NWIT - you really are on ignore, and I wouldn't read a post by you if onan paid me the imaginary $1000 he talked about.

[NowhereInTime]

..and my bloody laptop is still broken. But does anyone care? No.. so I'm reduced to typing on a friggin phone..granted it is a rather nice new one, but it's not the same. Beer anyone?

Ha!  that's my friggin' problem at night!  My posts take forever to craft so I usually let the argument fester until next day.  Instead of beer, perhaps scotch and cigars?

[NowhereInTime]

NWIT - you really are on ignore, and I wouldn't read a post by you if onan paid me the imaginary $1000 he talked about.

Yet you keep peepin'.  C'mon baby, need some more sugar?

[Yorkshire pud]

"In their world it is OK for them to hurl insults and degradations, but it is NOT OK for anyone to challenge their immature political or social views with arguments they cannot defeat with intelligence".

How true; and how I've tried, but now I realise it's  a pointless exercise and kills too many innocent pixels, (the bloody liberal in me even feels empathy for pixels). So now I'll sit and read occasionally how apparently liberal is a mental disorder  (yet mindless hatred of a black man isn't -odd that)..So this liberal (or is that commie, pinko, faggot, bleeding heart lesbian?) is taking his leave. Happy health!

[Quick Karl]

"A People's Organization is dedicated to an eternal war. It is a war against poverty, misery, delinquency, disease, injustice, hopelessness, despair, and unhappiness...." - Saul Alinsky 1946 Reveille for Radicals

They sure have made a hell of a difference in the inner city Black American communities in America!

[onan]

How true; and how I've tried, but now I realise it's  a pointless exercise and kills too many innocent pixels, (the bloody liberal in me even feels empathy for pixels). So now I'll sit and read occasionally how apparently liberal is a mental disorder  (yet mindless hatred of a black man isn't -odd that)..So this liberal (or is that commie, pinko, faggot, bleeding heart lesbian?) is taking his leave. Happy health!

right there with ya, let the shriekers have the place.

[ItsOver]

right there with ya, let the shriekers have the place.

Wow...I'm slipping and sliding on mud just peeking at this thread.  I think I'll just stick to the civil threads, like "George Noory Sucks!"

[West of the Rockies]

I may join you on that last train for the coast, Yorkie & Onan.  To everyone else, "Good night and good luck."

[aldousburbank]

I'm glad I'm not smart enough to understand this thread but some of it is funny. I just sent a 50 to the Society For Kids Who Can't Get Along In The Backseat.  Aight, gahead.

[PB the Deplorable]

How true; and how I've tried, but now I realise it's  a pointless exercise and kills too many innocent pixels...

Yes, it was a pointless exercise to try to convince people that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Obama are all right-wingers.

It was pointless to continue telling us the honest people in this country should disarm - which would leave only the criminals and gang bangers with guns.

It was pointless to tell us our Constitution should be thrown out and try to convince us it is somehow out of date.

It was pointless to tell us the only possible reason anyone would oppose Obama's agenda is because he is black, and his opponents could only be driven by racism. 
 

Come on.  Some of this had to have been meant to be provocative, right?

[PB the Deplorable]

right there with ya, let the shriekers have the place.

I may join you on that last train for the coast, Yorkie & Onan.  To everyone else, "Good night and good luck."

For what it's worth, I thought your comments were civil and added to these threads (both of you guys).

I think the increased acrimony in DC lately has all of us a little bit more on edge when it comes to politics.

[NowhereInTime]

Yes, it was a pointless exercise to try to convince people that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Obama are all right-wingers.

It was pointless to continue telling us the honest people in this country should disarm - which would leave only the criminals and gang bangers with guns.

It was pointless to tell us our Constitution should be thrown out and try to convince us it is somehow out of date.

It was pointless to tell us the only possible reason anyone would oppose Obama's agenda is because he is black, and his opponents could only be driven by racism. 
 

Come on.  Some of this had to have been meant to be provocative, right?

Seems fairly provocative to call Stalin & Mao RIGHT wingers.
Seriously whoever said anything about throwing out the Constitution?

[b_dubb]

this thread would be much larger if everyone else on the forum were dumb enough to get involved