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Quote from: b_dubb on March 19, 2012, 06:25:53 PMRoad trip! Let's all pile in my Winebago and go to Seneca, NY. There ... we'll take turns jumping up and down Yoder's face before we stick him and his family into his makeshift gas chamber and hooking the hose up to a diesel exhaust. I'm joking. Well ... mostly
Quote from: BobGrau on March 19, 2012, 07:26:07 PMI keep seeing this ad for the (uk) electoral commision - their slogan is 'use your vote, don't lose it'. This attitude has always pissed me off - you're telling me if I don't vote, one of the two mainstream parties that have any realistic chance of forming a government in this country are likely to promote a fascist agenda that involves repealing democracy? Really??? I live in a country where the individual vote counts for NOTHING, and the established partys refuse to reform the electoral system because it threatens the status quo. There is no way for us to express dissatisfaction with the candidates, it's just 'vote for the lesser of two evils'. To then be told 'if you don't vote we might just take it away all together'... aaargh it makes me so angry.It's like criticising a rape victim for not being on the pill, or something. OK, it's not - but it is totally unfair.
Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 19, 2012, 10:19:13 PM I wouldn't worry about a return to Prussian militarism. The West(and Soviets) really declawed and destroyed Germany after WWII, multi-cult insanity has turned pockets of urban areas like Frankfurt and Munich into polyglot slums like you see in London or New York City, except instead of Spanish(NYC), the language is Arabic. THAT has been a problem for nearly 45 years, with the 1972 Olympics being the paramount example, but a lot of the Palestinian terror of 1970-1990 had bases in Germany, with help from groups like Baader-Meinhof. But the blitzkrieg Germany is long gone,IMO.
Quote from: Michael Vandeven on March 19, 2012, 10:34:58 PMin thinking about the german arabs you mention above... i suspect there are significant portions of white germany who want an end to the infusion of foreign people/cultures. if there were a significant terrorist attack in germany, i could see interesting/troubling things happening, and from there possibly leading to a military buildup. these things always begin with a spark of some sort. germany now has the financial clout to do big things.is there a nationalist movement of any sort in germany today? i guess the hypothetical scenario i mentioned above would depend on it, but i don't know enough about today's germany to say one way or the other.
Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 19, 2012, 11:11:23 PMI've long been fascinated by post-war Germany, because of the the terrorism angle ...
Quote from: Michael Vandeven on March 19, 2012, 09:27:31 PMhey, bob... it's a bit off topic i guess, but i wonder... are brits worried at all about the fact that europe is now economically dominated by... drum roll... germany? i think they should be. with the last 100 years of european history taken into account, and more specifically german history, the country's rise seems like a troubling development that should never have been allowed to happen. the german people have such a defined record of waging war on their neighbors and the world, it's inconceivable to me that the people of europe would stand by and watch as their economic futures are placed in the hands of that country. world war two was such a short time ago in terms of true historical separation. there are still people walking the planet today who fought in ww2. the last remaining ww1 soldier died within just the last year or so. are people talking about this in the uk?
Quote from: BobGrau on March 20, 2012, 08:32:09 AM I've met quite a lot of white South Africans in my time, and I'm sorry to say that the older ones always turned out to be rather unpleasant people. Those brought up under the old apartheid regime really do have a noticably different mindset - these tend to be 'ex-pats' who moved to the UK when things in south africa loosened up a bit - basically to get away from 'the bleks'.
Quote from: b_dubb on March 20, 2012, 07:46:33 AMBaader-Meinhoff?
Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 20, 2012, 10:18:11 AM Fascinating group, kinda like our Weather Underground, but far more deadly and severe. Especially amongst their own, they'd kill "traitors" without compunction. When their namesakes Ulrike Meinhof(suicide in jail on 5/9/76-Mother's Day) and Andreas Baader(jail suicide on 10/18/77)died, the group became inceasingly divided and still operated...but dwindled in membership. By the mid 1990's they were reduced to a few handfuls of people.
Quote from: b_dubb on March 20, 2012, 11:47:38 AMHave you seen the movie?
Quote from: BobGrau on March 20, 2012, 08:32:09 AMOne more thing - What always bothers me is that when you remove a dictatorship, the lower echelons are still there. Iraq is a good example of this. So we got rid of Saddam and his top people - great! But where are the prison guards, the torturers and secret police and so on?In terms of Germany, how many ordinary people were indoctrinated into the nazi mindset during the 30s and 40s? How many passed it on to their children, whilst warning them to keep their mouths shut in polite company?
Quote from: b_dubb on April 03, 2012, 12:13:17 PMThere's been some noise in the Random.. thread about "Obamacare". I thought I'd respond to said noise here. Some of you seem to think that Obama wanted the current bill with all it's BS. the insurance industry lobbying group demanded that certain provisions be included or else they would stop the bill in its tracks. Now maybe we'd be better off if that had happened - I'm not a fan of the bill - but at the very least this should demonstrate how completely bought and sold our government really is. Both parties. This was a demand made by an industry lobbyist group. Not "the People".
Quote from: Michael Vandeven on April 19, 2012, 12:47:49 PMi don't agree with much bill maher says... but you have GOT to see his documentary entitled religulous. very entertaining and eye opening. it improved my opinion of maher quite a bit.
Quote from: Michael Vandeven on May 01, 2012, 03:38:32 PMthis story really annoyed me. in order to call myself a conservative, i have to be lumped in with the type of people who would demand this guy's resignation? because he's gay? fucking insane.