Topic: Music

[Asuka Langley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjY9n5JdETo

[Asuka Langley]

I unironically like it when Japanese girls do covers of shitty American 80's buttrock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr96vi2YwAU

[Taaroa]

I unironically like it when Japanese girls do covers of shitty American 80's buttrock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr96vi2YwAU

I really don't get the appeal of the Japanese girl groups - unless they're just aimed at horny men?
It's not like Japan hasn't made a range music across different genres either...

https://youtu.be/vJTCQJa8NBs

[Asuka Langley]

I really don't get the appeal of the Japanese girl groups - unless they're just aimed at horny men?
It's not like Japan hasn't made a range music across different genres either...

https://youtu.be/vJTCQJa8NBs

Asians girls are better at rocking and the dudes tbh most male japanese rock bands suck. I am trying to think of a modern one that dont and i cant really think of any. There are old bands like X Japan, Loudness, Sex Machineguns, Boris, NINGEN ISU that were great. Modern ones are just a whiny bitches that remind me of shitty 2000 American emo culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVyupfkNXUk

VS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uds7g3M-4lQ

[Silphion]

Takeshi Terauchi was the most successful and influencial Japanese rock guitarist from the 60's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQLb3aq-xs4

[Camazotz Automat]

The song featured in "The Tune In Dan's Cafe" on The Night Gallery.


https://youtu.be/aYBiSyM4lPE

[Asuka Langley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTxpuP9zEBk

[Asuka Langley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMvxJ4EiaLM

[Asuka Langley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFVVoJO44GM

[K_Dubb]

Something new (old) for Halloween if you are tired of Night on Bald Mountain, Danse macabre, and Le Chasseur maudit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIVmJAi53R8

Some program to do with Wills-o’-the-Wisp I forget exactly what.

[Camazotz Automat]

Treat yourself to some Thai.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=232om-AWkDo

[SredniVashtar]

Something new (old) for Halloween if you are tired of Night on Bald Mountain, Danse macabre, and Le Chasseur maudit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIVmJAi53R8

Some program to do with Wills-o’-the-Wisp I forget exactly what.

Chasseur Maudit? The Mussorgsky gets played to death but the CF is a rarity. At least, it is in my atonal neck of the words. Don't you have any Xenakis there? Or Ferneyhough?

[K_Dubb]

Chasseur Maudit? The Mussorgsky gets played to death but the CF is a rarity. At least, it is in my atonal neck of the words. Don't you have any Xenakis there? Or Ferneyhough?

Post them if they wrote spooky things!  Here are some American things you might enjoy exert yourself in repudiating:

Chadwick: Hobgoblin, Tam O'Shanter
MacDowell: Suite No. 1 has "In a Haunted Forest" and "Forest Spirits" as well as a movement "In October" that is more festive; good fall music
Hadley: The Culprit Fay (based on the poem)

[Asuka Langley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxzRaqrxHjw

[pate]

https://youtu.be/AFbwQOR_Nqo

[pate]

https://youtu.be/0U2yhvW0jA0

[pate]

https://youtu.be/yc5vqNnDUpM

[Taaroa]

Takeshi Terauchi was the most successful and influencial Japanese rock guitarist from the 60's

Not the 60s, but Tomoyasu Hotei is probably up there too for Japanese rock guitarists with success and infleunce.
Most known in the west for this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzfv5WdVr2c

https://youtu.be/swh-wRxVgIo

tbh most male japanese rock bands suck. I am trying to think of a modern one that dont and i cant really think of any. There are old bands like X Japan, Loudness, Sex Machineguns, Boris, NINGEN ISU that were great. Modern ones are just a whiny bitches that remind me of shitty 2000 American emo culture.

Fair enough.

https://youtu.be/XKnMtj1OBbI

[K_Dubb]

The best Mendelssohn overture, a great favorite of Victorian-era concert programs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkm0WD1IHE

It is good to see the Russian school of brass playing, which forever eschews the sonorous blend in favor of individual blare and the occasional questionably tasteful vibrato, is alive and well among the youth of today.

[Jackstar]

The best Mendelssohn

Abraham Mendelssohn renounced the Jewish religion prior to Felix's birth; he and his wife decided not to have Felix circumcised, in contravention of the Jewish tradition. Felix and his siblings were at first brought up without religious education; on March 21, 1816, they were baptized in a private ceremony in the family's Berlin apartment by the Reformed Protestant minister of the Jerusalem Church, at which time Felix was given the additional names Jakob Ludwig.

It is good to see the Russian school of brass playing, which forever eschews the sonorous blend in favor of individual blare and the occasional questionably tasteful vibrato, is alive and well among the youth of today.

I know, right?

[SredniVashtar]

The best Mendelssohn overture, a great favorite of Victorian-era concert programs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkm0WD1IHE

It is good to see the Russian school of brass playing, which forever eschews the sonorous blend in favor of individual blare and the occasional questionably tasteful vibrato, is alive and well among the youth of today.

That's also true of East German brass, and French, both partial to wobbly vibrato. It's a pity that quirky playing is being gradually ironed out these days, everybody is told they have to sound like the Berlin Philharmonic. Even the Czech Phil isn't what it was during the days of Karol Ancerl. You wouldn't know all this, being stuck in a cultural backwater, frowsting in your own ignorance.

[albrecht]

That's also true of East German brass, and French, both partial to wobbly vibrato. It's a pity that quirky playing is being gradually ironed out these days, everybody is told they have to sound like the Berlin Philharmonic. Even the Czech Phil isn't what it was during the days of Karol Ancerl. You wouldn't know all this, being stuck in a cultural backwater, frowsting in your own ignorance.

Could this be related to less smoking? And the relative strength and/or lack of filters for cigarettes in those countries formerly? The places you point out in which brass is "partial to wobbly vibrato" are also places where people love(d) to smoke in general more than most Western nations currently and proudly, or simply due to cost, smoked their own national brands- that were more harsh than English and American cigarettes. Maybe they were simply gasping for air hoping the conductor will finally let them stop the sound. A non-police related "I can't breathe" type of situation?

The oboe player in that recent K_Dubb vid recently certainly doesn't look like he holds back on the vodka, borsch, and herring and I suspect Belomorkanals.

[SredniVashtar]

Could this be related to less smoking? And the relative strength and/or lack of filters for cigarettes in those countries formerly? The places you point out in which brass is "partial to wobbly vibrato" are also places where people love(d) to smoke in general more than most Western nations currently and proudly, or simply due to cost, smoked their own national brands- that were more harsh than English and American cigarettes. Maybe they were simply gasping for air hoping the conductor will finally let them stop the sound. A non-police related "I can't breathe" type of situation?

The oboe player in that recent K_Dubb vid recently certainly doesn't look like he holds back on the vodka, borsch, and herring and I suspect Belomorkanals.

That's a very interesting point which I haven't considered before. Certainly people like Mravinsky didn't linger over lyrical passages for the brass very much. Maybe he knew they didn't have the lung capacity after sucking on all those papirosi. Those Eastern bloc countries also had very distinctive woodwinds because they couldn't afford better reeds.

[albrecht]

That's a very interesting point which I haven't considered before. Certainly people like Mravinsky didn't linger over lyrical passages for the brass very much. Maybe he knew they didn't have the lung capacity after sucking on all those papirosi. Those Eastern bloc countries also had very distinctive woodwinds because they couldn't afford better reeds.

 

All quality reeds were likely seized by apparatchiks and given to officials for use under dissident fingernails in Lubyanka.

[K_Dubb]

That's a very interesting point which I haven't considered before. Certainly people like Mravinsky didn't linger over lyrical passages for the brass very much. Maybe he knew they didn't have the lung capacity after sucking on all those papirosi. Those Eastern bloc countries also had very distinctive woodwinds because they couldn't afford better reeds.

Absolute horsefeathers, proving once again that you haven't the slightest idea what you are hearing.  Your appreciation for music is closer to the kind of person who purchases Relaxing Classics thinking classical music is calming, not the musician who tenses his breath as tessitura is strained and tightens his sinews along with each bow-stroke, feeling intensely the mastery of the effort required to produce such tones.

We are talking about vibrato which, in brass-playing, requires steadier, firmer, more-confident breath and lip control than simply blowing a note at pitch, especially if you are bending the pitch above the note as they often do, i. e. making it sharper.  Reduced long capacity might produce tremolo, which is variation in the loudness of the note but it would sound ragged rather than the even pulses of a skilled player in control of his instrument.

[SredniVashtar]

Absolute horsefeathers, proving once again that you haven't the slightest idea what you are hearing.  Your appreciation for music is closer to the kind of person who purchases Relaxing Classics thinking classical music is calming, not the musician who tenses his breath as tessitura is strained and tightens his sinews along with each bow-stroke, feeling intensely the mastery of the effort required to produce such tones.

We are talking about vibrato which, in brass-playing, requires steadier, firmer, more-confident breath and lip control than simply blowing a note at pitch, especially if you are bending the pitch above the note as they often do, i. e. making it sharper.  Reduced long capacity might produce tremolo, which is variation in the loudness of the note but it would sound ragged rather than the even pulses of a skilled player in control of his instrument.

Pay attention, darling. I said 'wobbly vibrato'. I can tell a hawk from a handsaw when the wind's in the right direction. And I have actually heard most of the great orchestras live, not the third-stringers you're forced to put up with. You're talking arrant balls, as usual!

[SredniVashtar]

Also, blowing a note at pitch isn't simple at all and requires a great deal of skill. Vibrato allows you to get away with dodgy intonation because you're not on the note but fluttering around it. I refer you to St Roger of Norrington and the 'pure tone' style of playing.

[K_Dubb]

Also, blowing a note at pitch isn't simple at all and requires a great deal of skill. Vibrato allows you to get away with dodgy intonation because you're not on the note but fluttering around it. I refer you to St Roger of Norrington and the 'pure tone' style of playing.

More uncomprehending drivel.  He is talking mostly about unfretted stringed instruments like modern violins.  The same could be said of 18th-century brass instruments, un-holed and un--keyed, where any note outside the harmonics seemingly required far more skill than any modern player possesses (I did have the misfortune of hearing Crispian Steele-Perkins live once) but producing pure tones on modern brass (which is what we are talking about) is largely a function of mechanics.

[ItsOver]

“And now, time for a “true” classic.”

https://youtu.be/wu1UXCdyNo0

[Ciardelo]

I was going to complain about the repost from the "Fucking Jackstar's Old Lady" thread, but then I realized Jackstar has probably posted every YouTube video ever uploaded.