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SredniVashtar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
And one world advocates like you want to make everyone assume the value of the lowest common denominator.  Here's something for you to consider: 

A.  I do believe in American exceptionalism.

Exceptionally fat and exceptionally incurious about the world. Oh, exceptionally thick as pig shit too. So, we agree on something, at least.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
B.  I don't want Americans to be absorbed into some amorphous conglomoration of inferior states.

You already are.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
C.  Anybody that can make the cut to get into this country legally is welcome as long as their motives are pure and they are willing to assimilate.

Yawn. Yes, let's lose everything that makes people interesting and boil it down to some god awful parody of civilisation that you have over there.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
D.  We want nothing you have to offer.  If your forebearers had any backbone or intelligence you would be a 10th generation American. 

Unlike yours, my forebears weren't religious maniacs, or the sweepings of the stews and ghettos, so they didn't have to go that hellhole.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
E.  It is a well known fact that all hyper-liberal men squat to pee.

Your sexual fantasies are your own concern, madam.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 29, 2017, 05:23:38 PM
Exceptionally fat and exceptionally incurious about the world. Oh, exceptionally thick as pig shit too. So, we agree on something, at least.

You already are.

Yawn. Yes, let's lose everything that makes people interesting and boil it down to some god awful parody of civilisation that you have over there.

Unlike yours, my forebears weren't religious maniacs, or the sweepings of the stews and ghettos, so they didn't have to go that hellhole.

Your sexual fantasies are your own concern, madam.

You must realize that your responses are notoriously lacking.  But, I guess that's the best ya got.

norland2424

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 05:17:47 PM
Wake the fuck up!

while im not defending islam at all with this reply but that's a fake pic, its taken from some horror film.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBqwyuuSSc

Kidnostad3

Quote from: norland2424 on January 29, 2017, 06:00:29 PM
while im not defending islam at all with this reply but that's a fake pic, its taken from some horror film.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBqwyuuSSc

Thanks for pointing that out.  Can we agree that such atrocities have been committed and have been reported by the MSM?




norland2424

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 29, 2017, 06:06:52 PM
Thanks for pointing that out.  Can we agree that such atrocities have been committed and have been reported by the MSM?

far worse things have been done then that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muath_Al-Kasasbeh

"Muath Safi Yousef Al-Kasasbeh was a Royal Jordanian Air Force pilot who was captured and burned to death by the militant jihadist group ISIL after his F-16 fighter aircraft crashed over Syria."

pyewacket

I just checked in to see how many pages were added and yikes! I agree that the picture seemed suspect- good catch. I believe the extremists would either enslave the woman or kill her in one of their own methods like stoning.

Maybe a bit more accurate in illustrating the danger of lax vetting.



albrecht

60 Minutes rerunning a show on "refugees" that is so biased it is actually quite funny. I'm for the ban not simply for the terrorism risks but for cultural and demographic concerns. And, as we've seen in Europe, it is often the second generation that becomes the terrorist or criminals. We need Congress to make a new immigration act that goes back to a pre-65 model that is based on what is good for the country, not only for the immigrant, and retains cultural representation and no large demographic shift. A lot of our problems should be fixed by Congress- not only the President or some judge just 'deciding' law.

But what is funny is how Trump had figured out a way to "play" the leftists and politicians. Go large, make sweeping statements or actions, change the conversation, and then repeat process. The media, the leftists, Hollywood, and politicians can't keep up. Then, later, can always 'negotiate' position down to ones initially wanted or viewed as less severe than the bombastic order or statements.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on January 29, 2017, 06:15:24 PM

Maybe a bit more accurate in illustrating the danger of lax vetting.

Indeed; maybe such vetting should have been done to reveal Trump is Putin's bitch. Putin is responsible for far more atrocities, but that's okay is it?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Indeed; maybe such vetting should have been done to reveal Trump is Putin's bitch. Putin is responsible for far more atrocities, but that's okay is it?

Sigh... ::)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on January 29, 2017, 06:23:30 PM
60 Minutes rerunning a show on "refugees" that is so biased it is actually quite funny. I'm for the ban not simply for the terrorism risks but for cultural and demographic concerns. And, as we've seen in Europe, it is often the second generation that becomes the terrorist or criminals. We need Congress to make a new immigration act that goes back to a pre-65 model that is based on what is good for the country, not only for the immigrant, and retains cultural representation and no large demographic shift. A lot of our problems should be fixed by Congress- not only the President or some judge just 'deciding' law.

But what is funny is how Trump had figured out a way to "play" the leftists and politicians. Go large, make sweeping statements or actions, change the conversation, and then repeat process. The media, the leftists, Hollywood, and politicians can't keep up. Then, later, can always 'negotiate' position down to ones initially wanted or viewed as less severe than the bombastic order or statements.

Leftsts, leftists, media, leftists, media...

You know don't you, the ban doesn't just apply to refugees? It also applies to flight crew. It applies to the spouses of Americans, it applies to employees based in the US, or just passing through the US. It applies in ways that will severly disrupt millions of people, American firms too.

Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, are just a few companies whose staff are possibly stranded abroad.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Leftsts, leftists, media, leftists, media...

You know don't you, the ban doesn't just apply to refugees? It also applies to flight crew. It applies to the spouses of Americans, it applies to employees based in the US, or just passing through the US. It applies in ways that will severly disrupt millions of people, American firms too.

Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, are just a few companies whose staff are possibly stranded abroad.

Fuck 'em all! Get with the program or get crushed by it's wheels. The Trump Train's rollin', baby! :P

albrecht

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Indeed; maybe such vetting should have been done to reveal Trump is Putin's bitch. Putin is responsible for far more atrocities, but that's okay is it?
Relatively speaking for that region, Assad was not a bad leader destabilizing him by playing the neo-con/Kissinger/Brzezinski Cold War games caused the majority of the problems. Just a few years ago our papers and magazines vaunted the "modern Muslim women" Assad's wife was and how he was a stable, doctor and Western educated etc. Then, all of a sudden he is worse that Hitler. Before we started the wars and "Arab Spring" and supported the various "rebels" and fundamentalist Islamists Syria was note-able, compared to others in the region, in treating religious minorities ok. Hell, even IRAN treats religions minorities better than the Sunni radicals and "royals" we support in Saudi Arabia or in the chaotic region of "rebel" and ISIS held territory. Russia has committed atrocities but not on Muslim level. But none of it here would've happened if we didn't agitate for radical Muslims and go to war(s) without clear rules of engagement, plans for exit, clear goals or scope, (Caveat: unless destabilization and chaos WAS the goal.)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 29, 2017, 06:35:09 PM
Fuck 'em all! Get with the program or get crushed by it's wheels. The Trump Train's rollin', baby! :P

You're a moron. Correction; an idiotic moron.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
You're a moron. Correction; an idiotic moron.

Hee hee! Mission accomplished!  ;D

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
You're a moron. Correction; an idiotic moron.

Shouldn't you be happy about the US banning immigrants and refugees from these countries?

More immigrants and refugees for Europe and the UK!  amirite?


If muslims immigrants and muslim refugees are such a net gain you should be cheering for this as you and other Europeans can take advantage of these great people!  They are an economic gain!  They will create a thriving and diverse culture for you!

If the UK and Europe banned the Japanese from immigrating there, I would think that would be awesome for the US. 

Why not think this is awesome for the UK and Europe?

pyewacket

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Indeed; maybe such vetting should have been done to reveal Trump is Putin's bitch. Putin is responsible for far more atrocities, but that's okay is it?

Yeah, Trump just strolled in and nobody, but nobody raised any objections or looked into his background. Too bad he wasn't challenged by anyone.

albrecht

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Leftsts, leftists, media, leftists, media...

You know don't you, the ban doesn't just apply to refugees? It also applies to flight crew. It applies to the spouses of Americans, it applies to employees based in the US, or just passing through the US. It applies in ways that will severly disrupt millions of people, American firms too.

Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, are just a few companies whose staff are possibly stranded abroad.
Those on Flight 900 probably wished there was some better vetting....same with victims years later likely wish that flight schools profiled a bit.

Yeah, as I said, the strategy is to 'go big and 'crazy'- the media, Hollywood, Leftists, politicians, career bureaucrats go ape. Likely it will back down to have stronger vetting and even, hopefully, profiling but those with proper VISAs will be allowed to come in, work, etc. But the baddies kept out. Just as intended. And Trump/voters get what they want more quickly than long, going nowhere bills in Congress- where it should happen but too much corruption, political correctness, and timidity.
ps: consider the "warming" I don't see why more of these companies don't meet online, why does the Microsoft techie or Tesla engineer need to travel or even be based here if they are foreign?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: albrecht on January 29, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
in Congress- where it should happen but too much corruption, political correctness, and timidity.
^^^^^^^
THIS!  ;)
Quote from: albrecht on January 29, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
ps: consider the "warming" I don't see why more of these companies don't meet online, why does the Microsoft techie or Tesla engineer need to travel or even be based here if they are foreign?

I suppose because of proprietary IPs n'such. Which should tell you how much confidence they place in network security these days.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on January 29, 2017, 06:36:01 PM
Relatively speaking for that region, Assad was not a bad leader destabilizing him by playing the neo-con/Kissinger/Brzezinski Cold War games caused the majority of the problems. Just a few years ago our papers and magazines vaunted the "modern Muslim women" Assad's wife was and how he was a stable, doctor and Western educated etc. Then, all of a sudden he is worse that Hitler. Before we started the wars and "Arab Spring" and supported the various "rebels" and fundamentalist Islamists Syria was note-able, compared to others in the region, in treating religious minorities ok. Hell, even IRAN treats religions minorities better than the Sunni radicals and "royals" we support in Saudi Arabia or in the chaotic region of "rebel" and ISIS held territory. Russia has committed atrocities but not on Muslim level. But none of it here would've happened if we didn't agitate for radical Muslims and go to war(s) without clear rules of engagement, plans for exit, clear goals or scope, (Caveat: unless destabilization and chaos WAS the goal.)


Bush initiated GW2, and he's ultimately responsible. As its unlikely anything can be undone from that, his guilt is moot now. Far too late. He can take the deaths of in excess of 150000 civilians to his grave. But killing civilians, wiping out entire cities isn't an aspirational thing. Well, not to normal level headed people that is. America has never had a war on its home turf in living memory, so can be forgiven for thinking video games with the bad guys always being beaten by a lantern jawed GI Joe is the norm in the REALWORLDâ,,¢. Having said that, you have a self reliant murder system that puts some wars and skirmishes to shame with the attrition rates.

But the current fuck up Trump has put in place will put US troops in ME theatres in danger. Not this week, but when the time comes for them trying to get the locals to spy for them. The locals will simply refuse and maybe even turn in undercover US operators. Trump not think of that? Course not; He's far more concerned with making sure his twatter feed is up to date and bleating about the crowd at his swearing in non event.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on January 29, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
Those on Flight 900 probably wished there was some better vetting....same with victims years later likely wish that flight schools profiled a bit.

Yeah, as I said, the strategy is to 'go big and 'crazy'- the media, Hollywood, Leftists, politicians, career bureaucrats go ape. Likely it will back down to have stronger vetting and even, hopefully, profiling but those with proper VISAs will be allowed to come in, work, etc. But the baddies kept out. Just as intended. And Trump/voters get what they want more quickly than long, going nowhere bills in Congress- where it should happen but too much corruption, political correctness, and timidity.
ps: consider the "warming" I don't see why more of these companies don't meet online, why does the Microsoft techie or Tesla engineer need to travel or even be based here if they are foreign?

You're aware what engineering involves I take it? Hands on stuff generally. I know its a concept that Trump can't begin to grasp as the most difficult physical thing he's tackled is choosing which pen to sign a form.

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:48:46 PM

Bush initiated GW2, and he's ultimately responsible. As its unlikely anything can be undone from that, his guilt is moot now. Far too late. He can take the deaths of in excess of 150000 civilians to his grave. But killing civilians, wiping out entire cities isn't an aspirational thing. Well, not to normal level headed people that is. America has never had a war on its home turf in living memory, so can be forgiven for thinking video games with the bad guys always being beaten by a lantern jawed GI Joe is the norm in the REALWORLDâ,,¢. Having said that, you have a self reliant murder system that puts some wars and skirmishes to shame with the attrition rates.

But the current fuck up Trump has put in place will put US troops in ME theatres in danger. Not this week, but when the time comes for them trying to get the locals to spy for them. The locals will simply refuse and maybe even turn in undercover US operators. Trump not think of that? Course not; He's far more concerned with making sure his twatter feed is up to date and bleating about the crowd at his swearing in non event.

It breaks my heart to see so much cynicism in someone so young.

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:48:46 PM

Bush initiated GW2, and he's ultimately responsible. As its unlikely anything can be undone from that, his guilt is moot now. Far too late. He can take the deaths of in excess of 150000 civilians to his grave. But killing civilians, wiping out entire cities isn't an aspirational thing. Well, not to normal level headed people that is. America has never had a war on its home turf in living memory, so can be forgiven for thinking video games with the bad guys always being beaten by a lantern jawed GI Joe is the norm in the REALWORLDâ,,¢. Having said that, you have a self reliant murder system that puts some wars and skirmishes to shame with the attrition rates.

But the current fuck up Trump has put in place will put US troops in ME theatres in danger. Not this week, but when the time comes for them trying to get the locals to spy for them. The locals will simply refuse and maybe even turn in undercover US operators. Trump not think of that? Course not; He's far more concerned with making sure his twatter feed is up to date and bleating about the crowd at his swearing in non event.

Is this faggot speculating on what people he doesn't know, in a region he knows nothing about will do?

Juan

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:32:47 PM


Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, are just a few companies whose staff are possibly stranded abroad.
That's a major part of the immigration objections here -H1B visa serfs taking jobs from Americans.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on January 29, 2017, 06:52:44 PM
Is this faggot speculating on what people he doesn't know, in a region he knows nothing about will do?

I'm not Trump. Wrong bloke; self loathing faggot.

pate

I am just checking in from the fallout bunker, is everything okay topside?  I still have three years and fifty-one weeks worth of rations left.

Have the radioactive zombies climbed over the wall yet and if so do we have enough US military left to defend ourselves against the Russians?

I hope so, I don't want to share my freeze-dried food with no filthy foreign types, especially the damn Britlers.

I hope the rest of you are as comfortable as I am weathering the apocalypse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah7GxKHGHPg

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:48:46 PM

But killing civilians, wiping out entire cities isn't an aspirational thing.

Really?! You could've fooled me cuz Obama ran out of fucking bombs because he bombed so much in Syria. Do try to keep up, old bean!  ::) :D

albrecht

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 29, 2017, 06:48:46 PM

Bush initiated GW2, and he's ultimately responsible. As its unlikely anything can be undone from that, his guilt is moot now. Far too late. He can take the deaths of in excess of 150000 civilians to his grave. But killing civilians, wiping out entire cities isn't an aspirational thing. Well, not to normal level headed people that is. America has never had a war on its home turf in living memory, so can be forgiven for thinking video games with the bad guys always being beaten by a lantern jawed GI Joe is the norm in the REALWORLDâ,,¢. Having said that, you have a self reliant murder system that puts some wars and skirmishes to shame with the attrition rates.

But the current fuck up Trump has put in place will put US troops in ME theatres in danger. Not this week, but when the time comes for them trying to get the locals to spy for them. The locals will simply refuse and maybe even turn in undercover US operators. Trump not think of that? Course not; He's far more concerned with making sure his twatter feed is up to date and bleating about the crowd at his swearing in non event.
We shouldn't have troops over there. Like the Saudis and Israel fight their own wars. Put the troops on our borders, instead of defending others. Any serious threat can be dealt with without heavy troops or boots on the ground with various options (some of which might be "video-game like."  I think with proven reserves around the globe we, here, could do ok not dealing with the Muslims. I don't trust the Saudi analysis that just came out anyway- even if certified by a 3rd party agency. Considering the culture, they had one, I would rather be friendly with the Persians even more than these fake, corrupt "royals" who are the main source of radical Islam. As for Russia, I don't care if they have innocuous laws about homosexuals or if they bomb the shit out of Muslims in Chechnya. As long as they don't invade a NATO country I would rather be friends with them- lots of resources to exploit and even could use as a hedge against the Chinese. Instead we drive what were traditionally oppositional countries into each other's arms.

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