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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on January 24, 2017, 09:26:34 AM
https://www.investing.com/news/politics-news/trump-to-advance-keystone,-dakota-access-pipelines:-administration-official-455320


How many guys is that? Five or six? Fortunately, they're likely all in his Cabinet and/or The Kremlin.

That's merely speculative; based on nothing more than the promise of 'Making America other billionaires Great Again. Maybe.

Show your workings honey.




Yorkshire pud

"Please don't deport me Donald, why do you humiliate me so much?"

"Quiet bitch. This is about me!"




Jackstar


Meister_000

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on January 24, 2017, 09:49:49 AM
. . .What the Framers didn't anticipate was political parties, and elected officials loyal to party instead of to the people.  They didn't anticipate elected office as a career. . .
I can't cover that all at once, but here's one writer's counter to the widely held notion that Madison et.al. didn't foresee or expect parties;

https://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2011/james-madison-origins-partisanship

WILLIAM F. CONNELLY, JR.:
"James Madison’s Constitution incorporates both the mischief of faction and the spirit of party. American politics encompasses both intense minorities and aspiring majorities â€" both minority factions and special interest groups, and majority sentiment, often given voice by majoritarian parties. The Constitution checks and balances special interests and political parties, but the Constitution also embraces and empowers special interests and political parties. Arguably, the struggle among contending interest groups both constitutes and, if you will, corrupts our politics. Similarly, partisan confrontation between the political parties both constitutes and potentially corrupts our politics.

People persist today in arguing that the Founders were anti-party. Yet Madison concluded, “Parties … seem to have a permanent foundation in the variance of political opinions in free states.” Madison saw politics as essentially partisan: “No free country has ever been without parties, which are a natural offspring of freedom.” Indeed, he observed, “The Constitution itself … must be an unfailing source of party distinctions.”

It is tempting to concur with Madison and conclude that partisanship to this day is rooted in the Constitution.

Some insist today that the Founders did not expect political parties to form, that parties only arose later in American history. But in a 1792 essay titled “A Candid State of Parties,” Madison concluded that parties of distinction are “natural to most political societies,” and will likely endure. Even to this day, perhaps?

Admittedly, “A Candid State of Parties” is a partisan tract, just as were The Federalist Papers. Madison the Founder was a statesman, a politician, a political theorist, and a partisan. And that is not a criticism. Madison clearly understood that “in every political society, parties are unavoidable.” In fact, he concluded parties “must always be expected in a government as free as ours.”

Madison recognized that American politics and partisanship are rooted in the Constitution. Mere partisanship is possible precisely because of limited constitutional government, or as I like to say, the Constitution governs parties more than the parties govern the Constitution. Our constitutional concrete is sufficient to withstand partisan warfare today just as it did in the 1790s.

Partisanship is rooted in the Constitution because of First Amendment freedoms. Clearly freedom of the press and freedom of association allow and even invite the abuse of licentiousness and excessive partisanship. But what is the alternative? Madison understood that in a free society, politics, including the spirit of party, is ubiquitous. Since the latent cause of faction and spirit of party are natural to man, Madison sought to control the effects of faction, rather than to remove the causes, since the cure would be worse than the disease. That is what the Anti-Federalists wanted; it would have required curbing liberty. The point was to expand, not limit, liberty.

Partisanship is also rooted in the Constitution in another fundamental way. Throughout our history beginning in the 1790s, partisanship has been premised on the fault lines of constitutional interpretation and debate over the central principles of the separation of powers and federalism, or in other words, role of government questions. Contentious partisanship has its roots in the Constitution.. . ."


Meister_000

Quote from: Meister_000 on January 24, 2017, 11:25:01 AM
I can't cover that all at once, but here's one writer's counter to the widely held notion that Madison et.al. didn't foresee or expect parties
and it's bed-time for me, so . . .


pyewacket

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 24, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
My my, someone isn't happy... :-\

You may not understand the culture of that region of the world. I know she's not Russian but I believe this also applies in some part to other Eastern European cultures.

http://russia-insider.com/en/why-dont-russians-smile/ri6935

http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-a-Russian-Smile

All this demonstrates to me is the ignorance of our press and their attempt to take anything/anyone related to Trump out of context.





Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on January 24, 2017, 12:09:28 PM
You may not understand the culture of that region of the world. I know she's not Russian but I believe this also applies in some part to other Eastern European cultures.
All this demonstrates to me is the ignorance of our press and their attempt to take anything/anyone related to Trump out of context.


LOL, well that's one way of looking at it!  She looked almost distraught; but it was her culture. Phew, that's a relief.  ;D

Having worked with East Europeans; Kosovans, Polish, Albanians, Slovaks; I can assure you, they laugh a great deal. God knows why, because their homelands have been shat on over the last hundred years or so. In more recent times by Russians; who they detest.

paladin1991

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 23, 2017, 02:05:13 PM
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/arts/celebrity/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/arts/celebrity/watch-shia-labeouf-launches-24-hour-four-year-anti-trump-project-titled-he-will-not-divide-us

I dial in fm time to time.  It's amusing how these entitled fucks, with their Starbuxx soy mint latte's, dance around and chant like the mindless fucks that they are. 
I also enjoy when a Trumpista shows up to counter point, usually alone, and then get manhandled away fm the camera by the peaceful leftists. 

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 23, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
I doubt a single American goes on a British political forum every single day desperately trying to sell their ideology. Official cuck much?  :D
;D

paladin1991

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 23, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
There is a shocking display of agreement and civility on this thread that must be nipped in the bud.  Somebody say something about somebody's legitimacy and toilet habits right now.

Sailor, you have to wipe away fm your pussy, not towards it.  Who'd want to grab that disgusting fouled axe wound?

Luka Megurine

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 23, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
I doubt a single American goes on a British political forum every single day desperately trying to sell their ideology. Official cuck much?  :D

It's all he has, quite sad really when we all know how it would end...




paladin1991

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
Wasn't he half Italian and ran off back to France when the Duke of Northumberland's murderous bastards took over the field at Culloden?


As an aside; I've worn a kilt and the full dress. Sweated like a stuck pig.

Stolen Valor?

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 24, 2017, 12:02:53 AM
How's the queen doing? You've been such a let down to her and your mother.  :(

Elton?  Think he's still on tour.

paladin1991

Quote from: Jackstar on January 24, 2017, 07:23:12 AM



Historical note: The man who taught me how to play the bagpipes was named Donald Mackay. I accept your fealty.

Skin flute.

Male Organ.

The Prickilo.

What else have you called it, Jacky?

pyewacket

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 24, 2017, 12:30:11 PM

LOL, well that's one way of looking at it!  She looked almost distraught; but it was her culture. Phew, that's a relief.  ;D

Having worked with East Europeans; Kosovans, Polish, Albanians, Slovaks; I can assure you, they laugh a great deal. God knows why, because their homelands have been shat on over the last hundred years or so. In more recent times by Russians; who they detest.

100 years or so, you mean when they were communists?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: lukathing03 on January 24, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
It's all he has, quite sad really when we all know how it would end...


LOL, you're so full of shit its laughable.  ;D If you didn't have guns you'd have no wank material.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on January 24, 2017, 01:05:58 PM
100 years or so, you mean when they were communists?


I didn't say that. But Eastern European monarchies and later wars and (especially) Soviet oppression isn't going to be forgotten anytime soon.
But that's beside the point regarding Trump's missus.. But hey, as long as its a cultural thing that the first lady who is non American by birth looks ready to sob after her old man looks at her, that's fine by me.  :)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 24, 2017, 01:13:00 PM

I didn't say that. But Eastern European monarchies and later wars and (especially) Soviet oppression isn't going to be forgotten anytime soon.
But that's beside the point regarding Trump's missus.. But hey, as long as its a cultural thing that the first lady who is non American by birth looks ready to sob after her old man looks at her, that's fine by me.  :)

Just to follow up on my last question, so, there are no men in Britain then?  ???

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 24, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
Just to follow up on my last question, so, there are no men in Britain then?  ???

Why? You hoping to get over and slake your thirst for a bit of rough Liverpool docker giving it to you? Go on, you want it don't you; sweetcheeks? Yeah?


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 24, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
Why? You hoping to get over and slake your thirst for a bit of rough Liverpool docker giving it to you? Go on, you want it don't you; sweetcheeks? Yeah?

No thanks. I don't swing that way though I understand it's quite common there (cultural differences). I just wondered why a heterosexual man would obsess about the way the first lady looked. Seems kinda gay.  :D

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