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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Quote from: Segundus on January 23, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
I agree with your assessment and told the same thing to my husband.  Most Canadians are happy with their single payer, but in the UK the system is really stretched and there seem to be many complaints. 

Before Obamacare, though, medical bills was the biggest reason for bankruptcies in the US.  Something had to be done.

Something's wrong! I find myself agreeing with you on practically all of your points regarding this subject.  ;D  We had problems with the medical system before Obamacare but Obamacare only made it worse.  Sure, I'm glad some people have insurance now that were unable to get it before especially those with pre-existing conditions but there has to be a better way to reform the system.

SciFiAuthor

I'm loving all of the media butthurt going on. They're all pissed that the AP didn't get the first question at the press conference lol.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 04:35:21 PM
I'm loving all of the media butthurt going on. They're all pissed that the AP didn't get the first question at the press conference lol.


Even more telling is the complete silence and disinterest about the exec orders Trump has signed off; yet Obama (who did fewer than any President in a century) was being a tyrant.

Trump hadn't grasped the finer points of the Constitution last year when he said he'd protect article 12.


Small point; why should the POTUS know such trivial things?

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It was these concerns that were on House Republicans’ minds in July when then-candidate Donald Trump met with GOP lawmakers on Capitol Hill, and members sought some assurances about his constitutional principles.

“I wasn’t particularly impressed,” Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) said at the time. “It was the normal stream of consciousness that’s long on hyperbole and short on facts. At one point, somebody asked about Article I powers: What will you do to protect them? I think his response was, ‘I want to protect Article I, Article II, Article XII,’ going down the list.”

There are seven articles to the U.S. Constitution. There is no Article XII.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 04:48:39 PM

Even more telling is the complete silence and disinterest about the exec orders Trump has signed off; yet Obama (who did fewer than any President in a century) was being a tyrant.

Trump hadn't grasped the finer points of the Constitution last year when he said he'd protect article 12.


Small point; why should the POTUS know such trivial things?

Um..no. Just no. Quick poll: Does this cuck actually change people's minds here?

I can't see why he so desperately bangs away at this every day.  ???

SciFiAuthor

The New York Times is just hilarious.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/us/politics/president-trump-inauguration-crowd-white-house.html

"Figures for online viewership were not available."

Heh, actually many of them are openly available such as with youtube, but it just goes to show how a fake news story is born. You take Trump's offhanded remarks about the crowd he saw from the podium, and use that to attack him as somehow lying rather than an offhanded observation. Then you go after Spicer about those physical attendance numbers when in fact Spicer was talking about overall viewership after which the press deliberately conflates those two separate metrics and then cooks the numbers by omitting a bunch of them as "unavailable" to make him out as a liar lol. You literally do have two sets of facts and that's totally possible when you pick and choose which facts you add to your profile. 




SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 04:48:39 PM

Even more telling is the complete silence and disinterest about the exec orders Trump has signed off; yet Obama (who did fewer than any President in a century) was being a tyrant.

Trump hadn't grasped the finer points of the Constitution last year when he said he'd protect article 12.


Small point; why should the POTUS know such trivial things?

Perceived disinterest. I've spent the morning giddy and applauding each one of them. I don't know which one I like better, the Federal hiring freeze or the TPP withdrawal.

ItsOver

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
The New York Times is just hilarious.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/us/politics/president-trump-inauguration-crowd-white-house.html

"Figures for online viewership were not available."

Heh, actually many of them are openly available such as with youtube, but it just goes to show how a fake news story is born. You take Trump's offhanded remarks about the crowd he saw from the podium, and use that to attack him as somehow lying rather than an offhanded observation. Then you go after Spicer about those physical attendance numbers when in fact Spicer was talking about overall viewership after which the press deliberately conflates those two separate metrics and then cooks the numbers by omitting a bunch of them as "unavailable" to make him out as a liar lol. You literally do have two sets of facts and that's totally possible when you pick and choose which facts you add to your profile.
But, but...!

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/elections/to-our-readers-from-the-publisher-and-executive-editor.html?_r=0


Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 04:48:39 PM

exec orders  Obama

Stop.  It was not the quantity but the quality which was ...ahem... deplorable!

Jackstar

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 04:48:39 PM
Drumpf hadn't grasped the finer points of the Constitution last year when he said he'd protect article 12.

One time, I caught a fish this big.



The disconnect here, is that you insist on taking Trump literally, while refusing to take him seriously.

Meanwhile, Trump's influence extends to people who take him seriously, and don't need to take him literally.


One if by land
Two if by sea


Your people don't seem to understand the concept of speaking openly in code.


See you next Tuesday at the study hall.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 05:02:13 PM
Perceived disinterest. I've spent the morning giddy and applauding each one of them. I don't know which one I like better, the Federal hiring freeze or the TPP withdrawal.

So you are in favour of unaccountable exec orders that aren't ratified by congress? But when Obama did it, it was tyranny? Yes?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on January 23, 2017, 05:15:17 PM
One time, I caught a fish this big.



The disconnect here, is that you insist on taking Trump literally, while refusing to take him seriously.

What I insist on doing about what Trump says at any given minute has little bearing on how the people who do his bidding (as most dictators insist) are expected to respond when it could change in the next five minutes.  :-\

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
The New York Times is just hilarious.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/us/politics/president-trump-inauguration-crowd-white-house.html

"Figures for online viewership were not available."

Heh, actually many of them are openly available such as with youtube, but it just goes to show how a fake news story is born. You take Trump's offhanded remarks about the crowd he saw from the podium, and use that to attack him as somehow lying rather than an offhanded observation. Then you go after Spicer about those physical attendance numbers when in fact Spicer was talking about overall viewership after which the press deliberately conflates those two separate metrics and then cooks the numbers by omitting a bunch of them as "unavailable" to make him out as a liar lol. You literally do have two sets of facts and that's totally possible when you pick and choose which facts you add to your profile.

All very well; but why did Trump have to whine about it at the CIA; and his poodle the day after, If it wasn't that important to them? Then they had the skeleton with skin stretched over and a tan tell the reporter that it was alternative facts! Not a different interpretation, just alternative. The Trump admin is obsessed with ratings. So to suggest otherwise is not only disingenuous, it would get his staff fired to believe it didn't matter. Trump could announce an empty field was full of corn and his staff and supporters would nod in agreement.  ;D

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 05:06:28 PM
Good old Pinchy Sulzberger, misleading the American Public from his echo chamber for over 20 years.

(((Sulzberger)))


SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 05:28:26 PM
So you are in favour of unaccountable exec orders that aren't ratified by congress? But when Obama did it, it was tyranny? Yes?

The Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order so I don't really have a problem with them per se and they effectively go back to George Washington, though we didn't start calling them executive orders until the 30's. What I'm interested in is what they pertain to and what effect they have. I disagreed with many, but not all, of Obama's executive orders and found him often skirting the line of constitutionality and going against national interest in favor of en vogue globalist agendas. In contrast, pulling out of the TPP, reinstating the Mexico City policy, and freezing Federal hiring do not damage the country or skirt the Constitution.

starrmtn001

LIVE STREAM: Sean Spicer White House Press briefing 1-23-17 (DAILY TICKER).
You'll have to click on the YouTube link displayed on the clip.  Starts at about 46:45.


https://youtu.be/plV4PbWGE0g

Jackstar

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
What I insist on doing about what Trump says at any given minute has little bearing on how the people who do his bidding (as most dictators insist) are expected to respond when it could change in the next five minutes.  :-\

Quote from: Jackstar on January 23, 2017, 03:25:26 PM
I'm adding "disingenuous liar" to your list of offenses against decent society. Your faggot emoji won't save you from the gas chamber.

TigerLily



Here's a shocker for you guys. I like the actions Trump took today. Therefore, you might want to re-consider your stance on these issues

Jackstar

Quote from: TigerLily on January 23, 2017, 08:08:50 PM
I like the actions Drumpf took today.


... of whom did he grab? Meow.

Jackstar

Quote from: Jackstar on January 23, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
... of whom did he grab? Meow.


Historical note: due to the nature of the Recent Posts page, I had this reply composed and posted before I saw the icon:

So I just proved that I'm clairvoyant. Today's a great day! I'm going to knock off early, and get me a steak or something.

Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 04:48:39 PM

Even more telling is the complete silence and disinterest about the exec orders Trump has signed off; yet Obama (who did fewer than any President in a century) was being a tyrant...
Quote from: Justin drives a Prius on January 23, 2017, 05:28:26 PM
So you are in favour of unaccountable exec orders that aren't ratified by congress? But when Obama did it, it was tyranny? Yes?

Let's try this yet another time.  It's not the number of Executive Orders, it's the content.  Many of Obama's clearly went beyond his authority.  Intentionally, he knew nothing would be done.  That's what he meant when he said things like ''If Congress won't act, I will''.  It's what he meant when he said the ''had a pen and a phone''.

Can you imagine Trump announcing ''if Congress won't act, I will'' when it comes to items that clearly require Congressional approval?  Do you think the Fake News Media would sit back and say, ''well, he just got in, and he hasn't really issued as many EO's as the other presidents have yet''? 

Obama knew the Democrat Fake News Media wouldn't call him on it - they and the other fascists agree with dictatorial action, as long as the ''Progressives'' are in charge.  It's why we keep hearing these Fake stats about his low number of Executive Orders from them, as if that's somehow an indication of something.

And just so you know, using Executive Orders to undo illegal Executive Orders is the best recourse and exactly what should be done.

Jackstar

QuoteAn order that directs federal agencies to ease the “regulatory burdens” of ObamaCare. It orders agencies to “waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay the implementation of any provision or requirement” of ObamaCare that imposes a “fiscal burden on any State or a cost, fee, tax, penalty, or regulatory burden on individuals, families, healthcare providers, health insurers, patients, recipients of healthcare services, purchasers of health insurance, or makers of medical devices, products, or medications.”


... doesn't this mean that I am commanded by the President to stop paying my health insurance premiums? Because I think that's what I'm commanded to do. I've had a vision.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: WOTR on January 23, 2017, 09:44:52 AM


Also, if you put off purchasing the 1978 volkswagen and getting a small procedure done, you may end up needing to purchase the late model Mercedes at a later date...

Dude that's really deep. I'm gonna write that right here on the wall.  That's some heavy shit right there.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Jackstar on January 23, 2017, 08:36:10 PM

... doesn't this mean that I am commanded by the President to stop paying my health insurance premiums? Because I think that's what I'm commanded to do. I've had a vision.

I'm gonna go with your interpretation dude.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 23, 2017, 06:23:23 PM
... In contrast, pulling out of the TPP, reinstating the Mexico City policy, and freezing Federal hiring do not damage the country or skirt the Constitution.

And more to the point, they don't create new laws or change existing ones.

TPP hasn't been ratified - the current president simply isn't going to pursue it.  Freezing federal hiring breaks no law.  Reinstating Mexico City policy actually brings the government back into compliance with the Helms Act.

I don't think Pud quite gets that we have a different system here than they do there.  And that it's better.  That's ok, Obama wouldn't have any of that either - which goes a long way towards explaining why his party lost so many House and Senate seats, governorships, and state legislatures when he was in office.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: TigerLily on January 23, 2017, 08:08:50 PM

Here's a shocker for you guys. I like the actions Trump took today. Therefore, you might want to re-consider your stance on these issues

Okay you're going to have to be more specific before I know exactly which ones I am opposed to.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Segundus on January 23, 2017, 05:01:26 AM
Why do you bring Hillary up, as I never voted for her?   I have a problem with importing large groups of the same culture because they tend to live in ghettos and reject the melting pot.  Illegals lower the salaries of our unskilled jobs, as a whole.  This leaves US citizens unable to survive on those salaries.  Blacks are denied a stepping stone to better employment.  Al Sharpton was against illegals for this very reason initially until an appeal was made to his personal greed. 

I think we need scrutiny of businesses who hire such people.  If there are no jobs they'll have no incentive to come here.  They can catapult drugs over the wall.  We are still finding tunnels in use.


Jeez I was all wrong about you.  I want to have your babies.

Meister_000


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WOTR

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 23, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
Dude that's really deep. I'm gonna write that right here on the wall.  That's some heavy shit right there.
That's great.  Just make sure to put down the crayon before marking the wall in ink.  :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on January 23, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
And more to the point, they don't create new laws or change existing ones.

TPP hasn't been ratified - the current president simply isn't going to pursue it.  Freezing federal hiring breaks no law.  Reinstating Mexico City policy actually brings the government back into compliance with the Helms Act.

I don't think Pud quite gets that we have a different system here than they do there.  And that it's better.  That's ok, Obama wouldn't have any of that either - which goes a long way towards explaining why his party lost so many House and Senate seats, governorships, and state legislatures when he was in office.


Go on; how is it better?  :)

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