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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM



deltalitprof

Quote from: VoteQuimby on November 30, 2016, 07:39:56 PM
That dude is bretty smart. His comes off as a little austie to me. When he's speaking, I think he kind of only half completes a thought before jumping to his next thought. I get why he comes across as muddled in print now. But his comprehension of the state this country is in is brilliant.

What other White Supremacists do you think are brilliant, VoteQuimby? Watched any David Duke speeches lately you'd like to say are insightful?


Value Of Pi

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 03, 2016, 07:14:40 PM
Something along the lines of signaling no more business as usual, that we're no longer going to cower to PRC Communist Party threats.  It will be nice to have a President for a change who believes other countries ought to be a little more concerned about our reaction to them, rather than the other way around.  Worked for Reagan.

Especially China.  They are quite conservative when it comes to war.  They will take and take when others show weakness, but will back off when confronted.  I recommend Sun Tzu's The Art of War.  These basic military philosophies have not changed in China since it was written 2500 years ago.

We are the United States.  Taiwan is a friend and ally.  China is a trading partner.  We can talk to whoever we damn well want.  If China wants to act all upset about it, so what?  They are the ones who make a big deal of this stuff, and we don't have to cater to it.  We don't have to go along with all their bullshit, all the garbage they come up with for everyone else to kowtow to, lest they be ''offended''.

That's a great emotional argument but not very practical. Taiwan is the one place where Beijing wouldn't be reticent about going to war. They are fanatical on the subject. Also, they can be reasonably sure that if they chose to invade, they would be successful. They would pay a price but they wouldn't have a problem justifying the action or the consequences to their people.

So, nothing tangible to be gained by needling them on Taiwan and a battle we would likely lose if the shooting started. But I'm sure that John Bolton thinks "playing the Taiwan card" is a terrific idea and probably told Trump that.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: deltalitprof on December 03, 2016, 11:59:53 PM
What other White Supremacists do you think are brilliant, VoteQuimby? Watched any David Duke speeches lately you'd like to say are insightful?

Oooh! Just when you thought it was over, more race baiting.  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Value Of Pi on December 04, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
That's a great emotional argument but not very practical. Taiwan is the one place where Beijing wouldn't be reticent about going to war. They are fanatical on the subject. Also, they can be reasonably sure that if they chose to invade, they would be successful. They would pay a price but they wouldn't have a problem justifying the action or the consequences to their people.

So, nothing tangible to be gained by needling them on Taiwan and a battle we would likely lose if the shooting started. But I'm sure that John Bolton thinks "playing the Taiwan card" is a terrific idea and probably told Trump that.

Always with the sky is falling routine with you guys.  ::)

I doubt Bolton told him to do it. I'm thinking he's testing their resolve just to see what they do. It's doubtful with all the close financial ties between our countries that they'd be willing to go to war with us. Trump's just testing the waters to see if he can call the new neighborhood bully's bluff. I bet he will.  ;)


Jackstar

Quote from: Value Of Pi on December 04, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Taiwan is the one place where Beijing wouldn't be reticent about going to war. They are fanatical on the subject

Oh, well--that's obviously where the lich has stored its phylactery. Duh.


Apparently, I have to spell out everything for you people. Sigh.

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 04, 2016, 12:12:33 AM
Oooh! Just when you thought it was over, more race baiting.  :D


By the way--you're really fucking white. Don't think we haven't noticed.

Carry on.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar on December 04, 2016, 12:53:07 AM

By the way--you're really fucking white. Don't think we haven't noticed.

Carry on.

Yeah, no shit, Sherlock! I've fully admitted to it here in previous posts. I'm a radical though and don't consider it a crime.  ;)

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 04, 2016, 01:20:30 AM
Sherlock!

I accept your fealty. When you're done sucking that list of cocks you've been sent, approach the drop zone. Go.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar on December 04, 2016, 01:23:15 AM
I accept your fealty. When you're done sucking that list of cocks you've been sent, approach the drop zone. Go.

I'll admit I'm obsessed with cock...but only my own. Move along, Nancy!  >:(

RoseGirl

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 04, 2016, 12:17:28 AM
Always with the sky is falling routine with you guys.  ::)

I doubt Bolton told him to do it. I'm thinking he's testing their resolve just to see what they do. It's doubtful with all the close financial ties between our countries that they'd be willing to go to war with us. Trump's just testing the waters to see if he can call the new neighborhood bully's bluff. I bet he will.  ;)

Um....you do realize that a Trump company last month proposed a huge transit project in Taiwan? Mega bucks stuff. So 37 years of diplomatic agreement means little to Trump...but his money does. The Canadian news is reporting on it but, strangely, the American news isn't. Odd, that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-taiwan-president-china-reaction-1.3880124

Too bad no one could see those tax returns, eh? Wonder if the Trump team emailed back and forth with Taiwan on a secure server. He better have, right?






Dr. MD MD

Quote from: RoseGirl on December 04, 2016, 01:52:46 AM
Um....you do realize that a Trump company last month proposed a huge transit project in Taiwan? Mega bucks stuff. So 37 years of diplomatic agreement means little to Trump...but his money does. The Canadian news is reporting on it but, strangely, the American news isn't. Odd, that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-taiwan-president-china-reaction-1.3880124

Too bad no one could see those tax returns, eh? Wonder if the Trump team emailed back and forth with Taiwan on a secure server. He better have, right?

Always looking for the asp among the lilies.  I'm sure some of your dirt will stick one day. Don't lose hope! ;)

RoseGirl

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 04, 2016, 01:58:29 AM
Always looking for the asp among the lilies.  I'm sure some of your dirt will stick one day. Don't lose hope! ;)

Ha! Keep drinkin' that kool Aid...I'm sure someday Trump will let you make money.


Jackstar

Quote from: RoseGirl on December 04, 2016, 02:02:14 AM
Ha! Keep drinkin' that kool Aid...I'm sure someday Drumpf will let you make money.

And yet... uncertain about the rules for the use of an ellipsis. Puzzling, frankly.

I mean, Francinely. You know, whatever.


Quote from: deltalitprof on December 03, 2016, 11:59:53 PM
What other White Supremacists do you think are brilliant, VoteQuimby? Watched any David Duke speeches lately you'd like to say are insightful?

You are human trash. I don't even feel the need to dignify anything you say with any sort of respect after your attempts to threaten and dox people on here.

A lot of people on here are misguided and confused. But you are the lowest form of scum on this site. In some ways even Casio is better than you because at least he knows he's human shit.

You are a parasite on humanity. You are the embodiment of everything wrong with this country. You're a protected little snowflake who lives in your bubble and sits on your imaginary moral high ground then threatens people when you lose the argument.

I sincerely wish you the worst. Pig.


SredniVashtar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 03, 2016, 12:49:19 PM
I guess you shouldn't have called for that referendum if you didn't trust the proletariat to make the right choice then.  :D

BTW, most used car salesmen aren't worth 4 billion dollars.  ;)

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that I'm David Cameron. And I was starting to like you, too; not a lot, but a little. It's probably for the best that there's hundreds of miles of ocean separating us, otherwise I might have paid you a visit, together with my trusty black bag and roll of duct tape. Trust me, it would be the most fun you've had since the last time you were in prison - just be prepared to take your meals starting up for a few weeks afterwards.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 03, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
That horrid tub-thumping assaulting your delicate ears every four years from over here is the noise of revolution.  If you went back to 1789, I guarantee it wasn't all Voltaire and Montesquieu -- sky-high expectations and coarse rhetoric were more the thing.  We have been peacefully overthrowing our governments for a couple centuries now, and you presume to prate away to us about the cooperation you just discovered.

I can only hope that you managed to write that balls without keeping a straight face. How on earth does electing a billionaire (supposedly) who then goes on to shunt all his billionaire buddies into top jobs constitute a fucking revolution? Yeah, it's a 360 degree revolution where you are back where you bloody started. Jesus H, lay off the soft drink, it's scrambling your brain, and you didn't have much to work with in the first place.

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 03, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
Again you imagine that Europe has birthed a new species, this time one who's discovered how to live together peacefully -- and this within living memory.  You may be right (I hope you are), but the very history you trot out like a simpering A-student's report card suggests otherwise.  You are the naïf here, and I pat your head and give you a butterscotch before I go back to my books with a wry smile.

I'm sure you're quite accustomed to doling out candy to passers-by, only this time you're doing it to a man in his forties rather than a 10-year-old lost in a shopping centre. Which is progress of a sort, I guess. Europe did birth a new species - you bloody lot. You took all our ideas, pretend they were yours, and then unceremoniously micturated all over them.

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 03, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
Honestly, I ought to just grow a great gray prophet's beard; your sophomoric optimism makes me feel positively ancient.

I was being chided the other day for cynicism, and now I'm a sophomoric optimist. Make your bloody mind up! I'd rather be optimistic than mired in lymphatic decadence. You are quickly turning into the old world that you affect to despise, with all your backward-looking focus on outdated industrial practices.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on December 03, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
But, in the end, I'll take a president that will pick up a phone and call a company and try to persuade them not to move or automate over a president that doesn't really do anything except sit around while agitators burn down cities. spend money to prop up a failing company that will only encourage other companies to announce they are outsourcing their workforce overseas in order to get in on the government hand-outs.

I think that's what you meant, so I took the liberty of paraphrasing. I thought you people were supposed to be all about market forces and all that jazz? Yes, brilliant. How on earth he went bankrupt six times is a mystery!

SredniVashtar

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on December 03, 2016, 12:52:50 PM

That's because it can't ever be aligned. The left should be for relegating sexist, inherently misogynistic Islam to the trash heap of human history. It's a religion that needs to be shamed out of existence. Instead they court it as though it's somehow rational or acceptable. It's not, thus it must go. And so must go any collective delusion that can't successfully incorporate itself into modern society. Because of things like Islam's incompatibility with reason, the left reveals itself to not be honest with itself across the board, and that's why I just toss it all under one category for purposes of keeping it simple.

Fine, well good luck convincing 1.3 billion Muslims that they are a dead loss. What are they supposed to do, bugger off to Mars or something? Saying stuff like that doesn't even get close to addressing a problem, it's just posturing. They are no easy answers with that problem and I don't think either side has got anywhere close to coming up with a coherent strategy, but telling a whole faith that they are a lot of naughty boys who ought to know better isn't any good to anyone.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on December 03, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
The ideas of Barack Obama failed. So did the neoconservative ideas of George W. Bush. The Joe Sixpack of the American Midwest has already experienced economic collapse. That's what no one noticed from their ivory towers on the coasts of this country. Trump in his tower did notice. And it won him the election. Whether he turns out to be a nightmare, a failure, or the greatest president ever will be determined by his actions. But the point is, the last two presidencies were full of nightmares and failures. We've got nothing to lose.

If Obama ran against Trump he'd win, easily. His approval ratings are high and the general consensus is that he did a reasonable job, whether you agree or not. Trump won because of a perfect storm of negativity surrounding Clinton, not for any merits he may or may not possess.

Dear boy, that 'nothing to lose' mentality is very dangerous and I hope you don't all regret it. You have had it too good for too long and don't understand how bad things can get in the wrong hands. The only ones who can recall the Great Depression are too old to count and Americans in general see a decade ago as ancient history. When things start to slip they can slip fast and it isn't pretty; when you get yourselves in a spiral it can be hard to dig yourselves out of it. I don't want that to happen, because the last thing I want is to see Russia and China ruling the roost, but this spirit of negativity and defeatism that you are all in at the moment is very worrying.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 03, 2016, 12:53:09 PM
Isn't that why there is a period between the vote and the announcement they are leaving - to figure out some of the logistics, and then a 2 year period of negotiation to iron out the details? 

Yeah, but we are talking about four decades of agreements and treaties that they need to unravel; don't be so simplistic. They will have a Great Repeal Bill that only identifies the areas that need to be tackled, that's before they even get around to pulling things apart. They are so many areas that pooled resources with other nations (scientific research, for example) that this country will now be excluded from. We are also still in Europe, in terms of trade, whether we like it or not, and now we have thrown away whatever influence we had by deciding to be an outsider. All for our precious 'independence', which is a myth anyway, and that goes for every other country in the world.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: RoseGirl on December 04, 2016, 01:52:46 AM
Um....you do realize that a Trump company last month proposed a huge transit project in Taiwan? Mega bucks stuff. So 37 years of diplomatic agreement means little to Trump...but his money does. The Canadian news is reporting on it but, strangely, the American news isn't. Odd, that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-taiwan-president-china-reaction-1.3880124

Too bad no one could see those tax returns, eh? Wonder if the Trump team emailed back and forth with Taiwan on a secure server. He better have, right?

Taiwan, Japan and other Asian countries futures are directly tied to the US being an economic powerhouse. In one form or another our Military counters China's ambitions. Without our Nuclear umbrella and thin red line many of the region's countries will go self protection  Nuke.

As usual the CBC article was a poorly conceived  thinly veiled  propaganda piece with little historical context included or relevant background  information.

The CBC article accomplished once again it's  "real" propaganda goal..Trump is a dummy .. eh

Jackstar

Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 04, 2016, 07:06:45 AM
If Obama ran against Drumpf he'd win, easily. His approval ratings are high

But are they as high as Hillary's?

Are they as high as you obviously are, you deranged mouthpiece shill?

Quote from: RoseGirl on December 04, 2016, 01:52:46 AM
Um....you do realize that a Trump company last month proposed a huge transit project in Taiwan? Mega bucks stuff. So 37 years of diplomatic agreement means little to Trump...but his money does...

Too bad no one could see those tax returns, eh...

You do realize information on tax returns isn't presented on a country by country basis, right?

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