President Donald J. Trump

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

Well now that there's so much focus on the integrity of elections (funny Stein didn't ask for a recount when she ran in 2012), there should be some reforms in the future, i.e. paper ballots only and ID required nationwide.

[paladin1991]

Only because you're 21. 

Ha.  I'm closer to death than I am to 21.

but then again, death and I are old companions.

[ItsOver]

We really should have had Sith Soros in charge of the voting machines.  Then I'm sure we all could have avoided this nonsense.  I hope we all learn from this mistake and place the dark lord in command next time, instead of it just being an unrealized desire.

[Jackstar]

Zed's dead, Baby. Zed's dead.

[SredniVashtar]

As always, I truly appreciate your efforts to educate and shepherd us poor, confused souls.

Thanks. I'll teach you how to manage irony at the same time too, without tripping over your feet.

[albrecht]

I still have to present my ID to buy a bottle of booze in Washington state.

Liquor stores still state run or did they finally end that crap? Do they ask for your id when you buy your weed, you hippie? 

[pyewacket]

Thanks. I'll teach you how to manage irony at the same time too, without tripping over your feet.

There you go again- moving the conversational goal posts. I thought we were going to get a lesson on the canonical definition of a 'leftist' but instead it looks like I'm getting a lesson in tap dancing away from a legitimate question.

I invited you to define 'leftist'.

You have my full attention- please educate me and please use very simple words so that all us 'right leaning' people on this forum can grasp the one true meaning of the term 'leftist'.

Please don't respond by posting a recipe for tuna noodle casserole, at best it might give one the impression that you're trying not to answer this request. 

[Yorkshire pud]

There you go again- moving the conversational goal posts. I thought we were going to get a lesson on the canonical definition of a 'leftist' but instead it looks like I'm getting a lesson in tap dancing away from a legitimate question.

I invited you to define 'leftist'.

Please don't respond by posting a recipe for tuna noodle casserole, at best it might give one the impression that you're trying not to answer this request.

If I may? Stay with me on this:

First of all we need to define 'republican' (small r); that means different things to different people. In France, its a secular, anti monarchy, anti establishment society. Originating from the revolution that deposed and killed the incumbant monarchy. The people rose up and decided that the collective would run things. Napolean extended it to be a dictatorship, although its original and subsequent radicalism promoted liberalism; this included freedom of religion, same sex relationships and really crazy stuff like civil rights for black people and Jews.

It spread liberalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism (as in equality for women).. it pretty much was the catalyst for modern democray and the downfall of feudalism; nuturing wars were the entire country was involved. Later the Russian revolution had a very similar format, the people rose up and destroyed the monarchy, formulating the idea of a people led country with no hieracy. (Only that isn't what happened)

In the UK, a republican is viewed similar; anti monarchy, pro 'worker', and promotion of the workers right to the means of production; aka, the view of Karl Marx. It confuses things, that over in Ireland, a republican is a Catholic, possibly PIRA member who wishes to have an Ireland without the divide within.

You ask what a leftist is? Someone who promotes/desires equality of rights and privileges, irrespective of financial or social status. Someone who despises someone born with a silver (or gold) spoon in their mouth. Far left (Communist) is usually seen as someone promoting and desiring equality of social and financial status with no hierachy whatsoever. Running the town/county/country as a collective, with no overall leadership. Basically run as a committee. As someone who has sat on a committee, I can vouch for the fundamental flaw in that philosophy! Nothing gets done.

Its why, when fingers are pointed to the east and using NK, old Soviet Union, as 'Communist', I wonder which bit of 'collective' isn't understood. Both examples were/are dictatorships, with a despot or hierachy who had no intention of being 'one of the people'. Moscow had lanes in the roads that were only open for the elite in the Kremlin.

The 'left' therefore is whatever suits the narrative, but keep in mind, the US political system has its roots in the French revolution. And that was the people wanting freedom from hierachies born into privilege.

[Jackstar]

There you go again- moving the conversational goal posts.

Seems to be an islander/commoner schtick. Look, look, the other one even tagged in on it. Tacky.

[Jackstar]

Liquor stores still state run or did they finally end that crap?

They broke the monopoly a few years ago--prices went up about 22% across the board, but now I can buy The Glenlivet at the grocery store at 1:45 AM.

It actually seems a fair trade-off for me. I hardly drink often, but when I want to drink, I will. More expensive alcohol doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. (I'm in favor of moving the drinking age to 25.)

Do they ask for your id when you buy your weed, you hippie? 

It's creepy. Gotta show ID just to walk in the door, there's cameras all over the place, they scan your ID in a little computer that typically has an LED readout screen that displays your age in huge letters. It's what shopping in Britain for a packet of biscuits must be like.

[albrecht]

the US political system has its roots in the French revolution.

The French Revolution happened AFTER the founding of the USA and some say that the American revolution actually had impact on the French one, not vice-versa. The Founders, mostly, Jefferson stands out as one who even the darkest days still held out hope for it, were very concerned about the direction a French type of revolution went (and circumstances bore that out.)

[albrecht]

They broke the monopoly a few years ago--prices went up about 22% across the board, but now I can buy The Glenlivet at the grocery store at 1:45 AM.

It actually seems a fair trade-off for me. I hardly drink often, but when I want to drink, I will. More expensive alcohol doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. (I'm in favor of moving the drinking age to 25.)


It's creepy. Gotta show ID just to walk in the door, there's cameras all over the place, they scan your ID in a little computer that typically has an LED readout screen that displays your age in huge letters. It's what shopping in Britain for a packet of biscuits must be like.

Funny how the "privatization" thing seems to increase prices sometimes. Did they raise the excise tax or sales tax or something? How would more availability and longer opening hours raise the price of booze?

The weed buying experience seems a bit Orwellian. Especially if one is paranoid after smoking up.

[pyewacket]

If I may? Stay with me on this: ....

I sincerely thank you for all that, but I'm really waiting for SV to not respond in his own special way.

[Jackstar]

Did they raise the excise tax or sales tax or something?

They raised both. I forget the details--I'm really not much of a drinker, in spite of my power level--but it's definitely more expensive than back in the day. Conversely, I don't have to have an apostille stamp to go to a liquor store. It was almost that inconvenient.

How would more availability and longer opening hours raise the price of booze?

There was a massive shoplifting spree for the first six months until retailers figured out how to deal with the new paradigm. Other costs surely were incurred as well.

It's hard for me to justify the price increases since I know they just go into the pockets of the CIA. However, they picked the sweet spot, in that they raised the prices just enough that casual drinkers like myself think it's fine. And there's no denying the added convenience.

The weed buying experience seems a bit Orwellian. Especially if one is paranoid after smoking up.

It's not paranoia if they really are trying to kill you. Which they are.

[K_Dubb]

The French Revolution happened AFTER the founding of the USA and some say that the American revolution actually had impact on the French one, not vice-versa. The Founders, mostly, Jefferson stands out as one who even the darkest days still held out hope for it, were very concerned about the direction a French type of revolution went (and circumstances bore that out.)

Yep poor old Louis really got the short end of that stick.

The thing that's never really accounted for under the old continuum, and usually put under something vague like "Populism", is the deep distrust of any powerful entity, whether business or government agency.  Think of TR and his trust-busting.  I'd argue that's where the spirit of the revolution still lives, and occasionally coalesces into a consensus that brings together left and right in a way that confounds idealogues of either stripe.

[Jackstar]

If I may? Stay with me on this:

consolation prize URL

[pyewacket]

Seems to be an islander/commoner schtick. Look, look, the other one even tagged in on it. Tacky.

Hey Jacks, it does seem like they had this one loaded up and the bomb bay doors open. At least he left out Caligula's horse. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0

[Dr. MD MD]

The French Revolution happened AFTER the founding of the USA and some say that the American revolution actually had impact on the French one, not vice-versa. The Founders, mostly, Jefferson stands out as one who even the darkest days still held out hope for it, were very concerned about the direction a French type of revolution went (and circumstances bore that out.)

But albrecht, he's British and therefore must be right. 

He probably saw a BBC special report that told him that. 

[Yorkshire pud]

The French Revolution happened AFTER the founding of the USA and some say that the American revolution actually had impact on the French one, not vice-versa. The Founders, mostly, Jefferson stands out as one who even the darkest days still held out hope for it, were very concerned about the direction a French type of revolution went (and circumstances bore that out.)

The thing being if course, that the only people who could spread the word (in writing) about any societal developments around the world were those with an education. Literacy was still at a premium back then. Travel among the common people almost unheard of, unless of course they were sailors.

[albrecht]

They raised both. I forget the details--I'm really not much of a drinker, in spite of my power level--but it's definitely more expensive than back in the day. Conversely, I don't have to have an apostille stamp to go to a liquor store. It was almost that inconvenient.


There was a massive shoplifting spree for the first six months until retailers figured out how to deal with the new paradigm. Other costs surely were incurred as well.

It's hard for me to justify the price increases since I know they just go into the pockets of the CIA. However, they picked the sweet spot, in that they raised the prices just enough that casual drinkers like myself think it's fine. And there's no denying the added convenience.


It's not paranoia if they really are trying to kill you. Which they are.

Now I know why Obama doesn't golf or drink in Washington State.

[Jackstar]

loaded up and the bomb bay doors open

open the bomb bay doors, Hal

[albrecht]

Yep poor old Louis really got the short end of that stick.

The thing that's never really accounted for under the old continuum, and usually put under something vague like "Populism", is the deep distrust of any powerful entity, whether business or government agency.  Think of TR and his trust-busting.  I'd argue that's where the spirit of the revolution still lives, and occasionally coalesces into a consensus that brings together left and right in a way that confounds idealogues of either stripe.

Which is why the "establishment" likes to get people bickering over things like "social issues," race, bathrooms, etc. So that common-sense or concerns about curbing "too powerful entities" go to the wayside.

[Jackstar]

Which is why the "establishment" alien colonization overlord combine overwatch likes to get people bickering over things like "social issues," race, bathrooms, etc. So that common-sense or concerns about curbing "too powerful entities" go to the wayside.

FTFY... okay, well, actually I just fixed this one for me.

[Yorkshire pud]

But albrecht, he's British and therefore must be right. 

He probably saw a BBC special report that told him that. 

Note to MD's nanny: 'Get the stairgate fixed, your charge keeps getting out of bed and using his mother's computer'

[Yorkshire pud]

Which is why the "establishment" likes to get people bickering over things like "social issues," race, bathrooms, etc. So that common-sense or concerns about curbing "too powerful entities" go to the wayside.

It could be argued the establishment is similar to the old feudal system, but instead of using their own merceneries, they use the population for entertainment.

[albrecht]

It could be argued the establishment is similar to the old feudal system, but instead of using their own merceneries, they use the population for entertainment.

Perhaps, but without any sense of noblesse oblige.

[Jackstar]

without any sense of noblesse oblige.

buh? #spiritcooking




It's the same perverted principle, perverted further.

[K_Dubb]

Which is why the "establishment" likes to get people bickering over things like "social issues," race, bathrooms, etc. So that common-sense or concerns about curbing "too powerful entities" go to the wayside.

Social issues or foreign wars -- take your pick.

[Yorkshire pud]

Social issues or foreign wars -- take your pick.

Wars keep the factories running. If there's a just cause, then its a happy coincidence. (What have the Romans ever given us in return?)

[MV/Liberace!]

Here's some makeup tips for your girlfriend. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ifBvFE3s5w

well, it was more of a beating than an order, but since she's muslim, no cops.  it's been great.