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albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on October 16, 2016, 12:52:18 PM
David Duke ramps up his attempt to legitimize himself by hitching his wagon to Trump. It's interesting how he points out hearing from supporters while attending a "gun show".  I wonder how Trump feels about Duke taking top billing on the $50 hat though.  :o
Duke always does this tries to glom on, make money, or get publicity by associating himself with someone else, who doesn't ask or agree with it. When Bush (daddy) was running he attempted to latch himself to him without Bush's, or the Party's consent. I looked it up and while the Parties can deny funds and even speak out against a person, a person can register as or claim to be a member of a Party. Normally though the crazies or fruitcakes don't make it onto the news, at least nationally. Having said that I think the DNC should use the phrase Edward's successful campaign against Duke: "Vote For The Crook, Its Important."  ;)

albrecht

Quote from: onan on October 16, 2016, 12:57:07 PM
Tommy Thompson (not the one you know), a John Bircher in my home town, once taught a bunch of my friends and me how to take a cigarette and book of matches to set a fire at a carnival he didn't approve of.

Criminal behavior isn't the mindset of all people of any political ideology.
Yeah, for sure. Especially on the fringes. Oddly, often when you go far enough into the fringe both ends seem to meet in an agreement of strange bedfellows that the "bankers," government, etc is all corrupt and out to get you, violence is a legitimate way to resolve political differences, 'burn it all down and start over,' etc.

ps: I don't think the match trick works anymore because the government mandated that cigarettes go out if not being drawn upon (to help prevent those smoking in bed or throwing a cigarette out the window etc.) Another reason for someone to quit smoking you now are also smoking fire-retardant chemicals, in addition to everything else!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_safe_cigarette

onan

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on October 16, 2016, 12:57:37 PM
onan, you're not allowed to make your case using government facts and statistics without factoring in the conspiracy theories that invalidate them.


Point taken.

Trump took Bill Maher to court because Maher said he would pay 5 mill for proof Trump's father wasn't an orangutan, Trump went into court with his birth certificate. Yet this guy thinks he is presidential material.

GravitySucks

Quote from: onan on October 16, 2016, 12:10:26 PM
US unemployment rate increased to 5 percent in September 2016, compared to 4.9 percent in the previous month and missing market expectations of 4.9 percent. It was the highest jobless rate since April, as the number of unemployed persons increased by 90 thousand to 7.9 million while the labor force participation rate increased by 0.1 percentage point to 62.9 percent. Unemployment Rate in the United States averaged 5.82 percent from 1948 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 10.80 percent in November of 1982 and a record low of 2.50 percent in May of 1953. Unemployment Rate in the United States is reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.


From Trading Economics.

All you did was deflect. It didn't refute anything I posted.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx



Gyoza Girl

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 16, 2016, 08:39:59 AM
What about the Clintons' degradation of women?  Right, you don't care.  You only care if it is someone with an R by their name.
The problem is that Trump is trying to beat Hillary by associating her with Bill's misdeeds. This isn't going to work, because most women don't believe a woman should be punished for her husband's indiscretions. If anything, they will view her as a victim!

Now, whether Hillary was an "enabler" and sought to "destroy" Bill's accusers is another matter. From reading various articles about the timeline of what Hillary actually has said, I take the view that she initially supported her husband because she thought (or hoped) he was innocent. Maybe she had her suspicions but wanted to believe Bill was faithful. He was denying the accusations, and back then, it would have been easy to believe that these "bimbo eruptions" were politically motivated. I think it was only after the Paula Jones matter that the Monica thing came to light, and Bill finally was forced to confess to the entire country. And he was impeached, so it's not as though he never was held accountable!

I have a harder time getting around the Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey assault allegations. Kathleen seems very credible and Juanita's case happened in 1978. Bill was a good ol' Southern boy, so who knows? If Hillary is on record calling them liars after the truth about her husband came out, then this is very troubling.

As for the worst of the allegations regarding intimidation, I've read there's absolutely no evidence that Hillary orchestrated or planned any attacks on Bill's accusers. Those all seem to be second-hand accounts from other individuals -- most likely people with an ax to grind. Hillary made insulting remarks about some of the women, but I don't know of any wife who's going to embrace the women with whom their husbands have cheated.

WOTR

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 16, 2016, 01:46:05 PM
Now, whether Mike Pence was an "enabler" and sought to "destroy" Trump's's accusers is another matter. From reading various articles about the timeline of what Pence actually has said, I take the view that he initially supported his running mate because he thought (or hoped) he was innocent. Maybe he had his suspicions but wanted to believe Trump wasn't a mysognist scum bag. He was denying the accusations, and, it is easy to believe that these "bimbo eruptions" are politically motivated. I think even after the court cases are finally decided and that he is convicted, that Trump will continue to refuse to confess to the entire country. At that point, perhaps Pence will admit that he continued backing Trump for personal gain.

FIFY  ;)

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 16, 2016, 01:46:05 PM
The problem is that Trump is trying to beat Hillary by associating her with Bill's misdeeds. This isn't going to work, because most women don't believe a woman should be punished for her husband's indiscretions. If anything, they will view her as a victim!

Now, whether Hillary was an "enabler" and sought to "destroy" Bill's accusers is another matter. From reading various articles about the timeline of what Hillary actually has said, I take the view that she initially supported her husband because she thought (or hoped) he was innocent. Maybe she had her suspicions but wanted to believe Bill was faithful. He was denying the accusations, and back then, it would have been easy to believe that these "bimbo eruptions" were politically motivated. I think it was only after the Paula Jones matter that the Monica thing came to light, and Bill finally was forced to confess to the entire country. And he was impeached, so it's not as though he never was held accountable!

I have a harder time getting around the Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey assault allegations. Kathleen seems very credible and Juanita's case happened in 1978. Bill was a good ol' Southern boy, so who knows? If Hillary is on record calling them liars after the truth about her husband came out, then this is very troubling.

As for the worst of the allegations regarding intimidation, I've read there's absolutely no evidence that Hillary orchestrated or planned any attacks on Bill's accusers. Those all seem to be second-hand accounts from other individuals -- most likely people with an ax to grind. Hillary made insulting remarks about some of the women, but I don't know of any wife who's going to embrace the women with whom their husbands have cheated.

It is what you state in the 3rd paragraph that troubles me more than anything.

mikuthing01

Everyone needs to see this so im posting it on the Trump forum too. The Clintons gang raped a black pizza delivery man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQGtMAy6Sc

Value Of Pi

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 16, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
You have a unique way of looking at the world. You imply that Trump brings out the racists. He had 13.3 million votes in the primaries. Running against 16 opponents (17 if you count himself). That is the most ever for a GOP nominee. 1.8 million more than the previous record.

If there are that many racists in the country, how did Obama get elected twice? Especially since in 2012 he received 9.6 million votes less than he did in 2008.

I never said or implied that all Trump supporters are racists. You're out on a limb here that you've created.

Pi. You are intelligent. Just not smart. It's not even that... your filter that you see things through makes it difficult for you to see that everyone that voted for Trump in the primaries had their own personal reason. Mine is different that SFA's. i knew Cruz couldn't beat Clinton. He would be wrapped up in a court challenge right now because of the circumstances of his birth.

I've posted several times that there are different kinds of Trump voters. This isn't news to me.

You imply Trump supporters will get violent if he doesn't win. Seems to me it is the democrat supporters that have the history of getting violent. First to quiet the opposition and next to bring anarchy when they aren't coddled too.

I said that some may get violent. I'm against anyone getting violent, whatever they call themselves.

You excuse people of being timid. Go take on Soros. Hand to hand. He is pretty old. He turned over to 100 Jews to the Nazis and says "If I didn't do it, someone else would have".

Why would I personally take on Soros or anyone else? We have a legal system and a free press to reveal the facts and prosecute criminals, even if some people have zero trust in them.

Soros is backing Clinton and is behind BLM, SEIU, and just about every anarchist and anti-USA group out there. If there are riots in November, follow the money. They will be funded by Soros.

Just remember, a vote for Clinton is a vote for Soros. You know, that guy with the whole Jew thing mentioned above.

This is no more true than saying your vote for Trump will be a vote for Duke. Beyond that, I don't see Soros as the devil some people do, even though I don't defend him.

Something needs to be done about those violent Trump supporters...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787782613633208320

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/16/politics/north-carolina-gop-office-vandalized/

QuoteWashington (CNN)A GOP office in Hillsborough, North Carolina, was firebombed overnight, with a swastika and the words "Nazi Republicans get out of town or else" spray painted on an adjacent building, according to local officials.

"The flammable substance appears to have ignited inside the building, burned some furniture and damaged the building's interior before going out. The substance was housed in a bottle thrown through one of the building's front windows," according to a statement by the town of Hillsborough.

A bottle of flammable liquid was thrown through the Orange County Republican headquarters, police said.


WOTR

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 05:14:29 PM
Something needs to be done about those violent Trump supporters...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787782613633208320
I'm at least somewhat amused that these people "represent Hillary Clinton and the Democrats" Does Trump accept personal responsibility for everything that his "supporters" do?

Did he lovingling refer to the office as the "Riksdag?" ;)

Quote from: WOTR on October 16, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
I'm at least somewhat amused that these people "represent Hillary Clinton and the Democrats" Does Trump accept personal responsibility for everything that his "supporters" do?

Did he lovingling refer to the office as the "Riksdag?" ;)

Look at this brain dead idiot. Democrats are literally firebombing Republicans establishments now and this is what this idiot comes up with.

Bernie's Campaign Director is now on the Trump Train after the Wikileaks about Hillnasty manipulating Sanders out of the race.



https://twitter.com/TezlynFigaro

WOTR

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 05:26:21 PM
Look at this brain dead idiot. Democrats are literally firebombing Republicans establishments now and this is what this idiot comes up with.
Quite honestly, this is exactly where this election has been heading for a long time.  I get the feeling that regardless of who wins, Ferguson will look like a sit-in protest.  Perhaps I missed the body count that was supposed to outrage me- or do you get this upset at every synagogue and mosque that is defaced or burned?

I promise I would be equally as upset if it were a Democrat election office that was fire bombed.

Quote from: WOTR on October 16, 2016, 05:33:47 PM
Quite honestly, this is exactly where this election has been heading for a long time.  I get the feeling that regardless of who wins, Ferguson will look like a sit-in protest.  Perhaps I missed the body count that was supposed to outrage me- or do you get this upset at every synagogue and mosque that is defaced or burned?

I promise I would be equally as upset if it were a Democrat election office that was fire bombed.

I'm just tired of adults being retarded.

A literal Summer of Democrat sponsored domestic terrorism. But Trump supporters are the violent ones.

Cops being murdered in the streets and war descending on inner cities, But Trump supporters are the violent ones.

Regular wild jahoodis attacks. But Trump supporters are the violent ones.

Now political offices being literally firebombed in the middle of a heated election. But Trump supporters are the violent ones.

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on October 16, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
I'm at least somewhat amused that these people "represent Hillary Clinton and the Democrats" Does Trump accept personal responsibility for everything that his "supporters" do?

Did he lovingling refer to the office as the "Riksdag?" ;)
Its "Reichstag," not Riksdag (unless you are talking the Swedish one.) And I don't think some local office would be compared to it, or called it. It would be like the Capitol. I predicted that some Billary supporters would claim "false-flag" (sort of like all those "hate crimes" end up being hoaxes to gain publicity to whatever cause.) And the infamous Reichstag Fire is still under dispute though some claim "false-flag" due  NAZI penchant for them (Gleiswitz etc.) But leftists have also been known to burn stuff (we see that here all the time with flags, during BLM lootings, etc.)

norland2424

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
Its "Reichstag," not Riksdag (unless you are talking the Swedish one.) And I don't think some local office would be compared to it, or called it. It would be like the Capitol. I predicted that some Billary supporters would claim "false-flag" (sort of like all those "hate crimes" end up heing hoaxes to gain publicity to whatever cause.) And the infamous Reichstag Fire is still under dispute though some claim "false-flag" due  NAZI penchant for them (Gleiswitz etc.) But leftists have also been known to burn stuff (we see that here all the time with flags, during BLM lootings, etc.)

far right or far left all prone to violence , to think either side is made up of pure pacifists if idoicy , as in both democrats and republicans will have idiots in their ranks.

WOTR

To be fair, I just heard the CBC coverage of the event.  They mention that there was a fire bombing (fair), they say that the election is getting ugly and tensions are rising (also fair.)  They mention that Trump is starting to suggest that the election is rigged (somewhat fair, but unrelated) and then suggest that there is worry that Trump supporters will riot after the election if he does not win (off in left field in relation to this news item.)

If they want to cover the increasing paranoia of Trump, do so in an opinion piece.  However, they did manage to take what was obviously violence towards his campaign and spin it to concern about future violence from his supporters.  It was almost excusing this as a preemptive strike and was some of the more screwed up reporting that I have heard.


Catsmile

Trump single-handedly turned the GOP Grand Old Party, into the Grab Our Pussy GOP.


Value Of Pi

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
Its "Reichstag," not Riksdag (unless you are talking the Swedish one.) And I don't think some local office would be compared to it, or called it. It would be like the Capitol. I predicted that some Billary supporters would claim "false-flag" (sort of like all those "hate crimes" end up being hoaxes to gain publicity to whatever cause.) And the infamous Reichstag Fire is still under dispute though some claim "false-flag" due  NAZI penchant for them (Gleiswitz etc.) But leftists have also been known to burn stuff (we see that here all the time with flags, during BLM lootings, etc.)

I suppose anything can be disputed, but I think most historians believe that the Nazis themselves set the Reichstag fire. This fire, who knows?

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 16, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
I suppose anything can be disputed, but I think most historians believe that the Nazis themselves set the Reichstag fire. This fire, who knows?

If I were investigating, I'd start with this man's ominous threats against the Republican Party.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/instart-auth-talkback/politics/trump-declares-war-on-the-republican-party-four-weeks-before-election-day/2016/10/11/93b21dc4-8fc9-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html

“Disloyal R’s are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary,” he wrote for his more than 12 million followers on Twitter, his preferred platform for picking fights. “They come at you from all sides. They don’t know how to win â€" I will teach them!” --Donald Trump

3OctaveFart

Even his strategists have no hope of his winning. She's pulling away in battleground states. It's going to be Goldwater-bad, like 39 percent bad. And yes, I do worry about his supporters on the lunatic fringe rioting, the equivalent of the 3-year-old who pitches a fit after he drops his oatmeal cookie in the toilet. Only these sorts have assault weapons and malice in their hearts.

I take no pleasure in his opponent winning, but better than a talking yam. The GOP wanted a roll in the hay with this pig, they got what they deserved.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 05:14:29 PM
Something needs to be done about those violent Trump supporters...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787782613633208320

Before you already convict and sentence any group maybe we should what happened 8 years ago



McCain volunteer admits to hoax
'B' on her cheek, black eye were likely self-inflicted
http://www.post-gazette.com/neighborhoods/2008/10/25/McCain-volunteer-admits-to-hoax/stories/200810250133

Then again Trump is still thinking the Central Park 5 is guilty even though DNA proved it wasn't them.



SciFiAuthor

Quote from: onan on October 16, 2016, 09:51:30 AM
Regular working class people aren't just white people.

Trump's pretty much are. But in a broader sense, absolutely. So why did we go off in the weeds there? We were talking about Trump's support.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
Yeah it's all just white people. It's not the shitty economy or the wars or the corruption or the incompetence or the fact they want to eradicate borders, import hundreds of thousands of people ideologically at war with the west and destroy this country's prosperity and society. Nope, just those darn white people.

This is why I hate liberals.

You're not shitting. The closer to this election we get, the more delusional and emotive the liberals are becoming. Onan's fucking talking about yarmulkes and shit. I feel like I need to start passing out Adderall the way these people are acting. Oh wait, I guess we already tried that with society.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Meatie Pie on October 16, 2016, 09:14:01 PM
Even his strategists have no hope of his winning. She's pulling away in battleground states. It's going to be Goldwater-bad, like 39 percent bad. And yes, I do worry about his supporters on the lunatic fringe rioting, the equivalent of the 3-year-old who pitches a fit after he drops his oatmeal cookie in the toilet. Only these sorts have assault weapons and malice in their hearts.

I take no pleasure in his opponent winning, but better than a talking yam. The GOP wanted a roll in the hay with this pig, they got what they deserved.

You just spent several years watching race riots in places like Ferguson and Baltimore and now you think it's somehow unusual to have a backlash?

onan

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 16, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
You're not shitting. The closer to this election we get, the more delusional and emotive the liberals are becoming. Onan's fucking talking about yarmulkes and shit. I feel like I need to start passing out Adderall the way these people are acting. Oh wait, I guess we already tried that with society.

Fair enough, to me, Trunp is crazy. In a "if I can't win, I will burn it down" kind of crazy. The emmies were rigged, now the race is rigged.

All i did was quote Trump with the yarmulke statement.

Quote"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."

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