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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

norland2424

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 03, 2016, 02:54:07 PM
;D You're not wrong. But in the grand scheme of things everything on BellGab and the majority of life is pointless. I wasted a hour of my afternoon yelling at a limey on the internet. Now I kind of feel like I want a coffee. Such is the way of life.



Lol thats also very true, here's hoping you get a good cup of coffee.

starrmtn001

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 03, 2016, 02:54:07 PM
;D You're not wrong. But in the grand scheme of things everything on BellGab and the majority of life is pointless. I wasted a hour of my afternoon yelling at a limey on the internet. Now I kind of feel like I want a coffee. Such is the way of life.



Will this do?


VtaGeezer

I've heard and read several major news sources reporting today that Trump accused Cruz Sr. of being involved with assassination of JFK.  Trump said no such thing.  He only cited the Enquirer's story showing a photo of Cruz Sr. with Oswald in New Orleans and asks why the media ignores it. He never even mentioned JFK or the assassination. I think it's odd that with the accuracy of facial recognition software, no one has just refuted the NE's assertion yet, which would end it...they just rail at the Orange AntiChrist for having the gall to mention it on Fox News.

starrmtn001

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 03, 2016, 03:50:52 PM
I've heard and read several major news sources reporting today that Trump accused Cruz Sr. of being involved with assassination of JFK.  Trump said no such thing.  He only cited the Enquirer's story showing a photo of Cruz Sr. with Oswald in New Orleans and asks why the media ignores it. He never even mentioned JFK or the assassination. I think it's odd that with the accuracy of facial recognition software, no one has just refuted the NE's assertion yet, which would end it...they just rail at the Orange AntiChrist for having the gall to mention it on Fox News.
I'm amazed how closely this election year parallels the Netflix series, "House Of Cards."  It's as though both are following the same script. 

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 03, 2016, 03:50:52 PM
I've heard and read several major news sources reporting today that Trump accused Cruz Sr. of being involved with assassination of JFK.  Trump said no such thing.  He only cited the Enquirer's story showing a photo of Cruz Sr. with Oswald in New Orleans and asks why the media ignores it. He never even mentioned JFK or the assassination. I think it's odd that with the accuracy of facial recognition software, no one has just refuted the NE's assertion yet, which would end it...they just rail at the Orange AntiChrist for having the gall to mention it on Fox News.

Oh BULLSHIT! Now you're really embarrassing yourself.

"His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald being, you know, shot," Trump railed. "I mean the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this? Right? Prior to his being shot. And nobody even brings it up. I mean, they don't even talk about that â€" that was reported. And nobody talks about it."

Value Of Pi

Here's a very illuminating, big-picture article on our current political situation, in a historical context, with a focus on how the Trump phenomenon happened. Regardless of how you feel about Trump, you'll learn something from this or at least have your comfort level challenged -- either of which ought to be a good thing.

"Democracies end
when they are too democratic.
And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny."


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

albrecht

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 03, 2016, 04:48:11 PM
Here's a very illuminating, big-picture article on our current political situation, in a historical context, with a focus on how the Trump phenomenon happened. Regardless of how you feel about Trump, you'll learn something from this or at least have your comfort level challenged -- either of which ought to be a good thing.

"Democracies end
when they are too democratic.
And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny."


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html
Just re-hashing common political theories that everyone who had a decent education and had to read Plato, Tocqueville, Gibbon, Federalist Papers, etc are already familiar. Those of a more conservative bent have been saying that the political-correctness, promotion of whatever sexual fetish or deviance, the open-border, 65 immigration reform, and multiculturalism would eventually destroy the country.

The Trump-as-Hitler meme is so old. "Mexicans are the new Jews"  :o Is this author aware that Mexico has a large Jewish population, in comparison to many Latin countries, especially around Mexico City and that much of the criminality we see in Obama's illegals are from Honduran and Guatemalan. (Or is the author using the term "Mexican" to mean a generic, non-white Hispanic?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on May 03, 2016, 04:47:45 PM
Oh BULLSHIT! Now you're really embarrassing yourself.

"His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald being, you know, shot," Trump railed. "I mean the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this? Right? Prior to his being shot. And nobody even brings it up. I mean, they don't even talk about that â€" that was reported. And nobody talks about it."
Did he mention any association with JFK's assassination? No. He only mentions Oswald. Is Cruz Sr. in the photos with Oswald or not?  There's no shortage of security firms with SOTA facial recognition software that would quickly determine the probability that it's Rafael Sr.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: albrecht on May 03, 2016, 05:10:35 PM
Just re-hashing common political theories that everyone who had a decent education and had to read Plato, Tocqueville, Gibbon, Federalist Papers, etc are already familiar. Those of a more conservative bent have been saying that the political-correctness, promotion of whatever sexual fetish or deviance, the open-border, 65 immigration reform, and multiculturalism would eventually destroy the country.

The Trump-as-Hitler meme is so old. "Mexicans are the new Jews"  :o Is this author aware that Mexico has a large Jewish population, in comparison to many Latin countries, especially around Mexico City and that much of the criminality we see in Obama's illegals are from Honduran and Guatemalan. (Or is the author using the term "Mexican" to mean a generic, non-white Hispanic?

I don't agree that, for most people, an extremely well-informed and focused analysis which helps to explain current events is simply a rehash or catalog of existing ideas. If you didn't find any value here, then you're either deadset in your beliefs or unusually brilliant and well-informed in your understanding of the political world and history. Most other readers aren't in this position and wouldn't claim to be.


albrecht

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 03, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
I don't agree that, for most people, an extremely well-informed and focused analysis which helps to explain current events is simply a rehash or catalog of existing ideas. If you didn't find any value here, then you're either deadset in your beliefs or unusually brilliant and well-informed in your understanding of the political world and history. Most other readers aren't in this position and wouldn't claim to be.
It used to be that our Senators would spend time-off reading; I recall reading a biography and Sen Russell, I think it was he, and was amused by the comment of his rereading Gibbon when not in session and for relaxation. I suggest also reading "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis. There always has been a fear of a dictator or, worse, a democracy in America. We have expanded the vote too broadly, have insane immigration policies (or lack thereof,) eliminated the balance of powers- both between branches of the Federal government and between the Federal Government, States, and localities, promote/hire/vote/grade based on some demographic status instead of performance or acumen, and promote all kinds of deviance intended to weaken the most fundamental unit in a society; traditionally.

starrmtn001

Trump takes Indiana!

albrecht

Quote from: starrmtn001 on May 03, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
Trump takes Indiana!
Somewhere Glen Beck is crying. Well, no surprise there, he always does that. I just hope my initial thoughts about Trump aren't true and that he really does want to sort out the illegals, stand up for our country first, etc. Now will Cruz give-up?

starrmtn001

Quote from: albrecht on May 03, 2016, 06:20:46 PM
Somewhere Glen Beck is crying. Well, no surprise there, he always does that. I just hope my initial thoughts about Trump aren't true and that he really does want to sort out the illegals, stand up for our country first, etc. Now will Cruz give-up?
I really think he will.  Trump's victory speech will start soon.  I'm guessing that's when we'll find out what Cruz is going to do.

LIVE Stream: Donald J. Trump Indiana Primary Victory Speech In New York, NY | May 3rd '16


https://youtu.be/RX-nF9qXGr8

Trump wins; Fiorina falls off the stage! Ha! Ha!




starrmtn001

Rumors from Live Broadcasting 2016 chat say Cruz has dropped out.  Nothing confirmed.



Quote from: starrmtn001 on May 03, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Rumors from Live Broadcasting 2016 chat say Cruz has dropped out.  Nothing confirmed.

Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 03, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
How delusional do you have to be to think any politician does? I'd like my country to remain a first world superpower that's the leader in the world while prizing free speech and free enterprise above whatever bullshit people got on their agenda. So that pretty much excludes everyone but Trump.

I don't think I'm worked up at all? The premise of this guy's argument is that he's not a "nice" person and he wants to fuck his daughter. Unless he's a psychic, his argument is stupid. Just treating a stupid argument like a stupid argument.

You have comprehension problems; my premise isn't that he isn't nice. My premise is , is that you and others seem to believe that being a megolamaniac in world politics will be virtuous. Being a bully isn't a good thing and Trump is selling the myth (and seemingly normally sober well hinged people are buying it) that he'll create jobs and services in the USA simply by cutting off China, build a fictitious wall across the southern border with Mexico (and presumably Canada to the north, oh, and banning Muslims). It isn't going to happen. He has no policies other than 'USA, fuck ya'. 
Course you will Donald. Course you will.

Ted can now return to his normal day job: The Zodiac Killer

Quote from: rekcuf on May 03, 2016, 06:38:08 PM
Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!

They just interrupted the ball game to announce Cruz suspended his campaign.
This result is probably best for the GOP because Trump will have more time to prepare for the electoral race instead of trading blows with Cruz etc.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 03, 2016, 06:41:08 PM
You have comprehension problems; my premise isn't that he isn't nice. My premise is , is that you and others seem to believe that being a megolamaniac in world politics will be virtuous. Being a bully isn't a good thing and Trump is selling the myth (and seemingly normally sober well hinged people are buying it) that he'll create jobs and services in the USA simply by cutting off China, build a fictitious wall across the southern border with Mexico (and presumably Canada to the north, oh, and banning Muslims). It isn't going to happen. He has no policies other than 'USA, fuck ya'. 
Course you will Donald. Course you will.

I've had my coffee and I'm bored with you now.

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on May 03, 2016, 06:42:42 PM
They just interrupted the ball game to announce Cruz suspended his campaign.
This result is probably best for the GOP because Trump will have more time to prepare for the electoral race instead of trading blows with Cruz etc.

Oh yes. Trump will win the election, too.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 03, 2016, 06:43:33 PM
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, creep.  But like herpes, you'll be back.

Okay? You must have first hand experience...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 03, 2016, 02:34:32 PM
Well, we'll see, won't we.  You're hyperventilatiing on the terror nonsense again. 

You mentioned terror. I didn't. But isn't terrorism one if the things Trump has said he'll eliminate? Now that I agree is nonesense.
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Trump's life and business are open books and I ask again...where are hordes of victims such evil must have left strewn across America?  But Putin has done a decent job of cowing his foreign adversaries, hasn't he.  As for the slur you keep repeating, it's another at the time harmless Trumpism taken totally out of context 30 years later and twisted be something ugly.  Do you even know its basis?

30 years later? He said it sbout three weeks ago. He does fancy his daughter. He freely admits it.

starrmtn001

Cruz's quitting speech.  Starts at -2:something.


https://youtu.be/RX-nF9qXGr8

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on May 03, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
Personally?  Of course not.  He doesn't know me.  But as an American Citizen, then yes.

Don't stop believing sister....he needs your faith.

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