President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

i think he's sincere.  that said, if only 50% of his immigration policy is ultimately applied, that's a big improvement over bush/obama era policy. 

I completely agree with you.  We can hope for the best.

[MV/Liberace!]

I completely agree with you.

[21st Century Man]

LOL.

[MV/Liberace!]

LOL.

heh heh

[=Schlyder=]

I wouldn't say I hate Trump.  I simply don't like him.  I pointed out a long time ago that Cruz was unlikely to win the nomination due to his lack of charm.  I've really been quite surprised about how well he has actually done.  I'm still holding out hope that Cruz can pull off an upset but I'm certainly prepared for Trump to be the nominee and I will vote for him if such is the case.

I hope Trump is sincere when it comes to illegal immigration but frankly it could very well be a stunt to win the office.  The man has flip-flopped more than any other politician in recent history.

Why would you be surprised an establishment lackey was doing well?   He was to be the one to go against Hillary, and lose.   Trump is a big wrench in the establishment's plan. 

[aldousburbank]

I'm sure Hugo Chavez would be proud...


https://youtu.be/DCMZaBFcxrk

I've said it before but it bears repeating- I wish these people would go back to where I came from.

[21st Century Man]

Why would you be surprised an establishment lackey was doing well?   He was to be the one to go against Hillary, and lose.   Trump is a big wrench in the establishment's plan.

The Establishment Republicans didn't want to have anything to do with Cruz.  Jeb was their choice.  We could go back and forth about who is the true anti-Establishment candidate but what's the use?  You are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine.  Time will tell especially if Trump becomes President.  The thing is we probably agree with each other for the most part when it comes to issues.  There is no point in bickering.  It only creates division instead of unity.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm sure Hugo Chavez would be proud...

You might be surprised to learn Cesar Chavez was an American citizen who was born in Arizona, was a Navy veteran, and opposed illegal immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez

[aldousburbank]

You might be surprised to learn Cesar Chavez was an American citizen who was born in Arizona, was a Navy veteran, and opposed illegal immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez

I was raised in the UFW's inner circle and was on the border protesting illegal immigration back before it was the cool thing to do.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm sure Hugo Chavez would be proud...

Just realized you wrote "Hugo" Chavez, but I'm still guessing you meant Cesar.  Hugo doesn't care about anything nowadays, because he's dead (and so is Cesar for that matter).

[VtaGeezer]

I wouldn't say I hate Trump.  I simply don't like him.  I pointed out a long time ago that Cruz was unlikely to win the nomination due to his lack of charm.  I've really been quite surprised about how well he has actually done.  I'm still holding out hope that Cruz can pull off an upset but I'm certainly prepared for Trump to be the nominee and I will vote for him if such is the case.

I hope Trump is sincere when it comes to illegal immigration but frankly it could very well be a stunt to win the office.  The man has flip-flopped more than any other politician in recent history.

I don't think either have much of a chance against Clinton Inc., but it's still "...the economy, stupid".  Trump's understanding of the economy is one of a highly-successful business man who has built, bought, sold, hired and fired (!!) vs. Cruz, a "burn it all down" stiff-backed ideologue whose knowledge of economics is academic and statistical; and from his wife, who sees the banking as a profitable service instead of a necessary facilitation for conducting productive business.

Is it just coincidence that the Bank of China revalued the yuan dramatically upwards just as Trump, who's pounded China hard for currency manipulation, reached the "presumptive nominee" level? 

[21st Century Man]

I don't think either have much of a chance against Clinton Inc., but it's still "...the economy, stupid".  Trump's understanding of the economy is one of a highly-successful business man who has built, bought, sold, hired and fired (!!).......

Trump has had his share of failures.  He has been successful rebounding from those failures.  Do I think the government should be run like a business?  Yes to some degree. I'm all for cutting the fat out of the federal government.  I do hope if he becomes President that he is successful bringing jobs back to the USA but I'm pessimistic about it.

Its funny though that you talk about Cruz burning everything down.  From what I've read on the forums I read, most Trump supporters do want to burn it all down.  I sympathize to a degree.  We need to get back to the basics and make this republic great again.

[VtaGeezer]

Trump has had his share of failures.  He has been successful rebounding from those failures.  Do I think the government should be run like a business?  Yes to some degree. I'm all for cutting the fat out of the federal government.  I do hope if he becomes President that he is successful bringing jobs back to the USA but I'm pessimistic about it.

Its funny though that you talk about Cruz burning everything down.  From what I've read on the forums I read, most Trump supporters do want to burn it all down.  I sympathize to a degree.  We need to get back to the basics and make this republic great again.

On Cruz and "Burn it down":  Cruz's utterly pointless 2013 govt shutdown had direct costs to the govt of $2.5 billion, and cost the overall economy $24 billion.  All so Rafael could earn his Tea Party chops for a presidential campaign.  Worse, he learned nothing and tried to do it again last year but the grownups stopped him. Case closed.

[21st Century Man]

On Cruz and "Burn it down":  Cruz's utterly pointless 2013 govt shutdown had direct costs to the govt of $2.5 billion, and cost the overall economy $24 billion.  All so Rafael could earn his Tea Party chops for a presidential campaign.  Worse, he learned nothing and tried to do it again last year but the grownups stopped him. Case closed.

A.  The shutdown was only partial.  Most of the government was running as usual.

B.  Shutdowns are nothing new.  There were 17 shutdowns between 1976 and 1996.  Cruz was trying to defund Obamacare but the other Republicans, many who promised the voters to get rid of Obamacare, did nothing.

C. Frankly, I think we need to get rid of a lot of the  bureaucracy that makes the government an unsustainable leviathan.  If that means cutting jobs, then I'm all for it. Yeah it is bad for the short term but better for the long term.

[MV/Liberace!]

i have no problem with shutting the government down to stop the ACA or any other disastrous legislation if it's really going to make a difference.  as far as i'm concerned, the longer the government is shut down, the better.  problem is, cruz's "efforts" affected nothing and i believe he knew this would be the outcome.  the whole spectacle seemed more like an effort to plant the flag of his presidential campaign and build his brand than a legitimate effort to fight the ACA.  entirely self serving.

[popple]

What an unpleasant gaggle of anchor babies.

[21st Century Man]

i have no problem with shutting the government down to stop the ACA or any other disastrous legislation if it's really going to make a difference.  as far as i'm concerned, the longer the government is shut down, the better.  problem is, cruz's "efforts" affected nothing and i believe he knew this would be the outcome.  the whole spectacle seemed more like an effort to plant the flag of his presidential campaign and build his brand than a legitimate effort to fight the ACA.  entirely self serving.

Maybe you're right but then again maybe not.  We can only guess.  I really think it was a mistake for Cruz to run during his first term in the Senate.  He needs more time to truly prove himself so there can be no doubt about his motives and qualifications.  Of course he could be quite concerned that the direction of the country can not be reversed if there is another Democratic president.  Again, we can only guess.

[MV/Liberace!]

Maybe you're right but then again maybe not.  We can only guess.

very true.  i could be totally wrong.  that's just how it appeared to me.

[21st Century Man]

Michael Medved just said he thinks Trump will pick Newt Gingrich as VP.  I could get behind that ticket pretty enthusiastically.  Newt was my representative for many years and he did an excellent job as speaker.

[aldousburbank]

Maybe you're right but then again maybe not.  We can only guess.  I really think it was a mistake for Cruz to run during his first term in the Senate.  He needs more time to truly prove himself so there can be no doubt about his motives and qualifications embodiement of the creepiest slug politician to ever stuff a suit. Of course he could be quite concerned that the direction of the country can not be reversed if there is another Democratic president.  Again, we can only guess.

[aldousburbank]

Michael Medved just said he thinks Trump will pick Newt Gingrich as VP.  I could get behind that ticket pretty enthusiastically.  Newt was my representative for many years and he did an excellent job as speaker.

Eh
As long as it's not John Wayne Gacy (he's dead right?) or the Sarah Palin I'll be good with it. Of course future President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho would be the obvious best choice.

http://youtu.be/WnwAFoQ8o1U

[whoozit]

Cruz should dump Carly and run as the first undead candidate for prez.  He could dig up Bela Lugosi for VP.  I know Bela was born on foreign soil but he died here.  That counts for a lot in the undead party.

[21st Century Man]

Tell me how you really feel, Aldous.  By the way, it's good to see you back. 

[21st Century Man]

Eh
As long as it's not John Wayne Gacy (he's dead right?) or the Sarah Palin I'll be good with it. Of course future President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho would be the obvious best choice.

http://youtu.be/WnwAFoQ8o1U

Macho Camacho!  LOL.  It has been a long time since I've heard that name.

[MV/Liberace!]

Michael Medved just said he thinks Trump will pick Newt Gingrich as VP.  I could get behind that ticket pretty enthusiastically.  Newt was my representative for many years and he did an excellent job as speaker.

as could i.

https://twitter.com/mvandeven/status/725155148482367489

[albrecht]

as could i.

https://twitter.com/mvandeven/status/725155148482367489

Art's clothes might be the the equivalent of an infamous blue dress if Trump picked Newt as a running mate. He might even, after changing, go back on the air, ignoring his wife or stalker, to praise the ticket.

[starrmtn001]

as could i.

https://twitter.com/mvandeven/status/725155148482367489

I'm kind of hoping he chooses Dr. Ben Carson, another non-politician, whose honesty and integrity is also intact.

It isn't so much what any candidate promises, it's whether they will follow through with those promises.

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm kind of hoping he chooses Dr. Ben Carson, another non-politician, whose honesty and integrity is also intact.

It isn't so much what any candidate promises, it's whether they will follow through with those promises.

The implication Trump has integrity? Interesting.

[albrecht]

I'm kind of hoping he chooses Dr. Ben Carson, another non-politician, whose honesty and integrity is also intact.

It isn't so much what any candidate promises, it's whether they will follow through with those promises.

I think that someone like Newt would be a plus because, not that it is a good thing, he knows the politics and insider-stuff. Trump fails/failed at this (as we see in the various State primaries) because he is not used to as much legal corruption and arcane rules. And that things like government aren't about making a profit, or satisfying their customers, but, primarily, expanding, or at least protecting, their budgets and power and, secondarily, advancing social experiments and agendas.

[starrmtn001]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6etpHp_26s

Wow.  Trump's protection service is bigger than obummer's!  Probably for very good reasons.