President Donald J. Trump

[VtaGeezer]

And what is the ratio between the gold chain wearing, neck tat dudes to the hard working immigrants punding nails across the street?  Is that ratio similar or completely different between Americans who earn their livings as apposed to those who bang with or without gold chains and/or tats?  Now to keep it fair, and to add perspective, all politicians count as 125 gold chain wearing, neck tat guys, and their handlers are worth 250.

The Americans you describe are citizens who can't be deported; the others can.  Its not squatter's right.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

The Americans you describe are citizens who can't be deported; the others can.  Its not squatter's right.

I see your point.  Mine was simply mountains to molehills. 

[Value Of Pi]

Where have I said I do that?
But Trump isn't the answer. He's attempting to persuade otherwise rational people (and seemingly succeeding) in believing complex issues easy to resolve. Only he only tells a quarter of the story; if he gets in, it won't be only the Senda's who will be looking over their shoulder. But hey. C'est la vie.

This kind of approach to getting people to buy things, including ideas and policies, is advertising 101. And Trump is an effective pitchman (though I prefer the Sham-Wow guy) who has decided to apply his talents to politics.

First, he outlines the problem, making it seem like the most important and urgent thing in the world. Then he promises to solve it quickly and easily with very little effort or money asked of the consumer.  He guarantees results and promises satisfaction. Very little attention paid to the details, problems or complications and consequences involved.

Then he makes it easy to buy. You don't even need a credit card. Just show up to vote and your wishes become reality.

So people are sold a president the same way they are sold every other item they buy. The irony is that people are generally much more thoughtful and discriminating when it comes to a major purchase like a house or car than they are when electing someone to the most important job in the world. But look at the amount of cash they're laying out and their perceived personal risk in each case. That explains the irony and the paradox.

And what makes this candidacy so different than the usual selling of a candidate? This candidate is all style and no substance, whereas there's usually a pretty good mix with other candidates. Also, Trump is not interested in repeat sales and repeat customers. All he wants is the initial sale to demonstrate his marketing prowess. That, in his mind, is winning.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

This kind of approach to getting people to buy things, including ideas and policies, is advertising 101. And Trump is an effective pitchman (though I prefer the Sham-Wow guy) who has decided to apply his talents to politics.

First, he outlines the problem, making it seem like the most important and urgent thing in the world. Then he promises to solve it quickly and easily with very little effort or money asked of the consumer.  He guarantees results and promises satisfaction. Very little attention paid to the details, problems or complications and consequences involved.

Then he makes it easy to buy. You don't even need a credit card. Just show up to vote and your wishes become reality.

So people are sold a president the same way they are sold every other item they buy. The irony is that people are generally much more thoughtful and discriminating when it comes to a major purchase like a house or car than they are when electing someone to the most important job in the world. But look at the amount of cash they're laying out and their perceived personal risk in each case. That explains the irony and the paradox.

And what makes this candidacy so different than the usual selling of a candidate? This candidate is all style and no substance, whereas there's usually a pretty good mix with other candidates. Also, Trump is not interested in repeat sales and repeat customers. All he wants is the initial sale to demonstrate his marketing prowess. That, in his mind, is winning.

Hey it's easy as Bing Bing Bing Bada Bam Bam..(then accentuates his underbite for emphasis). 

[albrecht]

And what is the ratio between the gold chain wearing, neck tat dudes to the hard working immigrants pounding nails across the street?  Is that ratio similar or completely different than the ratio between Americans who earn their livings as apposed to those who bang with or without gold chains and/or tats?  Now to keep it fair, and to add perspective, all politicians count as 125 gold chain wearing, neck tat guys, and their handlers are worth 250.

What is your threshold to get cheaper labor via illegal, unvetted aliens? How many rapes are acceptable? The number of murders? DUI accidents? Other crimes? Is there a personal equation? 5 rapes+1 murder is acceptable to save a few hundred bucks on my new roof. Or higher? Sure not all illegals are violent criminals- but some are. And our own government admits this when they do their "catch and release" policies. But to the families who had their child raped and murdered or lost their family to some drunk driving illegal it makes a big deal. If saving money on rooves is so important a simple guest-worker or legal immigration system could be implemented. And since when it become a popular leftist talking point that unorganized, cheap labor often working in dangerous conditions is a good thing? 

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

What is your threshold to get cheaper labor via illegal, unvetted aliens? How many rapes are acceptable? The number of murders? DUI accidents? Other crimes? Is there a personal equation? 5 rapes+1 murder is acceptable to save a few hundred bucks on my new roof. Or higher? Sure not all illegals are violent criminals- but some are. And our own government admits this when they do their "catch and release" policies. But to the families who had their child raped and murdered or lost their family to some drunk driving illegal it makes a big deal. If saving money on roofs is so important a simple guest-worker or legal immigration system could be implemented. And when it become a popular leftist talking point that unorganized, cheap labor often working in dangerous conditions is a good thing? 

I think you just described any segment of people.  I see what you are saying, but if there are vetting procedures/laws in place, why are they not being implemented or enforced?  I just can't ignore that it seems we are looking at the wrong people to pin our troubles on. 

[albrecht]

I think you just described any segment of people.  I see what you are saying, but if there are vetting procedures/laws in place, why are they not being implemented or enforced?  I just can't ignore that it seems we are looking at the wrong people to pin our troubles on.

That is my point. Though I also think there is a problem with non-violent illegals. I wonder if the true costs of illegal immigration could be known. Cost of cheaper labor vs the costs in social services, schools, hospitals, car accidents, etc. Here is my city we even are going to now provide DINNER for students in schools (many are illegal or descendants of them but really to any poor kid- though there is no means test and any student who wants it could do it.) These "hard-working" people won't even feed their children dinner? (We already feed them breakfast and lunch.) And there is a concern about demographics. Our totally open border (and other countries) result in mass migration, with people often who are uneducated (or unwilling) in our social systems, history, language, form of government, social mores, etc (we this most striking with the rape-u-gees in Europe.) And there is more tendency to ghettoized, and then take-over, versus assimilation when the numbers are so massive. Why is it that only Western countries are criticized if they want to protect their citizens, preserve their culture or language, secure their border, etc?

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

That is my point. Though I also think there is a problem with non-violent illegals. I wonder if the true costs of illegal immigration could be known. Cost of cheaper labor vs the costs in social services, schools, hospitals, car accidents, etc. Here is my city we even are going to now provide DINNER for students in schools (many are illegal or descendants of them but really to any poor kid- though there is no means test and any student who wants it could do it.) These "hard-working" people won't even feed their children dinner? (We already feed them breakfast and lunch.) And there is a concern about demographics. Our totally open border (and other countries) result in mass migration, with people often who are uneducated (or unwilling) in our social systems, history, language, form of government, social mores, etc (we this most striking with the rape-u-gees in Europe.) And there is more tendency to ghettoized, and then take-over, versus assimilation when the numbers are so massive. Why is it that only Western countries are criticized if they want to protect their citizens, preserve their culture or language, secure their border, etc?

You bring up interesting points.  It seems that the illegal problem is largely regional (why wouldn't it be I guess).  Offering dinner seems a bit extreme.  My wife works for our local district and poverty is certainly an issue in this area...close to half the kids get reduced or free breakfast and lunch.  They have put into play, a program to feed some of them on the weekends, evenings.  I think they call it "Weekend Warriors" or something.  I think the kids collect their packages once a week. 

[albrecht]

You bring up interesting points.  It seems that the illegal problem is largely regional (why wouldn't it be I guess).  Offering dinner seems a bit extreme.  My wife works for our local district and poverty is certainly an issue in this area...close to half the kids get reduced or free breakfast and lunch.  They have put into play, a program to feed some of them on the weekends, evenings.  I think they call it "Weekend Warriors" or something.  I think the kids collect their packages once a week.

Obviously nobody, well at least me, wants to see children going hungry but there needs to be a point in which we say, like Roberto Duran, "No Mas." Using the school example is interesting because it shows how confused and corrupt (in a legal way) things are. The school "system" wants the illegals children because the more numbers they have the more money they get from the Federal, State, and local government. Regular citizens take their children to private schools or move to better school districts, so the school even needs more illegals to fill seats and maintain budget. The school "out sources" meals to contractors (in some cases) and so that companies also want seats filled. The illegals, by fact that many are illiterate even in their native language, or behind grade/age wise, reinforces this feedback loop of citizen/white flight from the schools (because they want their children to get educated,) and so they need more immigrant children to fill the seats. And on it goes. Meanwhile you have much more racial tension and conflict in the schools especially between the remaining (but becoming outnumbered blacks) but also between the various immigrant's backgrounds and gangs (Mexicans, vs Hondurans, vs etc etc.)
ps: Obama policy after "catch and release" and for the unvetted Islamic "refugees" is to ship them actually to far-away states and cites- but often small towns/cities. The open-border and failed immigration scheme is effecting people everywhere but, yes, the worst are the areas right by the border. In Europe it is nightmare where your son is raped at a public pool because of a "sexual emergency" of a "refugee" and a worker who volunteer to help them out of humanitarian concern get gangraped for hours and is now catatonic in the hospital in a psychological hospital. Or even the just more common groping and comments from the immigrants to your wife or daughter walking to school or going about their business. Not to mention terrorism.

[VtaGeezer]

If saving money on rooves is so important a simple guest-worker or legal immigration system could be implemented. And since when it become a popular leftist talking point that unorganized, cheap labor often working in dangerous conditions is a good thing? 

No guest workers until the DOL unemployment data is made honest and reflects reality for labor instead the economists.  The labor market will need time to re-level after being artificially depressed  for a generation by millions of illegal migrants. 

[albrecht]

No guest workers until the DOL unemployment data is made honest and reflects reality for labor instead the economists.  The labor market will need time to re-level after being artificially depressed  for a generation by millions of illegal migrants.

Agreed. I'm sure numbers are manipulated (they always are "readjusted," and the with level on unemployment (sometimes hidden) in some communities I would think that, if some other government give-away programs were slightly modified, that some of these position could be filled with native populations. Especially the "small stuff"- I see no reason why teens and even kids can't be mowing our lawns or babysitting. Or even getting into a construction industry. I worked construction and moving in college to make some $. You are young and healthy and often paid in cash . Not that long ago high school and college kids would work in fields or fishing boats in off-times and certain seasons? Why not? It used to be said that it "builds character" to do some hard work. And, if nothing else, you learn to actually want to go to school so you don't have to pick apples or move couches or etc your whole life.

[Value Of Pi]

You bring up interesting points.  It seems that the illegal problem is largely regional (why wouldn't it be I guess).  Offering dinner seems a bit extreme.  My wife works for our local district and poverty is certainly an issue in this area...close to half the kids get reduced or free breakfast and lunch.  They have put into play, a program to feed some of them on the weekends, evenings.  I think they call it "Weekend Warriors" or something.  I think the kids collect their packages once a week.

Talking about extreme, what is extreme is people having kids that they are unable (or unwilling) to feed, house and take care of. That is just plain irresponsible, and worse, in anyone's book.

Looking at the problem this way takes it to a much more basic level and avoids the ethnic/racial dimension which tends to distract people from solving the core issues. Whatever and whoever you are, if you're a parent, be a parent. Otherwise, use birth control.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

Chris Cillizza, another brain-dead media whore who works out of the Washington Post, had this to say when assessing Trump's possible choices for the VP slot:

[Chris] Christie doesn't add a ton to the Trump ticket.

Apparently Cillizza is blind as well as stupid.

[popple]

https://youtu.be/4JWw8cTEN14

[starrmtn001]

What a douche booger-bag!

Ted Cruz Sounds Desperate In Megyn Kelly Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDDJKkMB7Nc

[popple]

Cruz thinks you should vote for him because he is "positive"? HAHAH! Donald can't get 1237? He is already at 1001. The more people protest the more he seems to win

[MV/Liberace!]

And many conservatives have been shaken from their radio-induced zombie state that's given corporations and Wall St free rein to gang bang the middle class for almost 30 years.

[starrmtn001]

Your avatar looks familiar, but I just can't place it.

OMG!  Is that Cruz in drag? 

PRAISE MV!!!

[MV/Liberace!]

Your avatar looks familiar, but I just can't place it.

OMG!  Is that Cruz in drag? 

PRAISE MV!!!

sexy, isn't it?

[VtaGeezer]

What a douche booger-bag!

Ted Cruz Sounds Desperate In Megyn Kelly Interview

Cruz's pettiness and his compulsion to stay on rehearsed talking points come through like never before now that his egotistical fantasy is collapsing around him.    Obama takes shit for only being in elected office for 12 years before running; HRHH had eight years in the Senate.  This presumptuous dick thinks he's so f'ing brilliant that he should go from unknown state appointee lawyer to President of the US in less than four years.  And some worry about Trump's ego?

[VtaGeezer]

sexy, isn't it?

#cruzsexscandal

[albrecht]

Your avatar looks familiar, but I just can't place it.

OMG!  Is that Cruz in drag? 

PRAISE MV!!!

Apparently someone, the press or some show, found a woman who looks strikingly like Ted. She is a real person, though, not a photoshop, apparently. Being American culture what it is today she is going to make a porno (to support her family, of course.) Who would want to watch such a thing, who knows? But I guess there is a market for every fetish.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ted-cruz-lookalike-maury-signs-porn-10k-article-1.2613485

[MV/Liberace!]

#cruzsexscandal

indeed.

[anunnaki]

“I think when Donald Trump debates Hillary Clinton she’s going to go down like Monica Lewinsky,” Chair of Florida’s Broward County GOP Executive Committee Bob Sutton told The Washington Post in an article published Wednesday

[WOTR]

Who would want to watch such a thing, who knows? But I guess there is a market for every fetish.

Do I really need to remind you that rule ##34 states "If you can imagine it, there is porn of it."  Now, until very recently, this did not hold true of Ted Cruz.  So, rule 34b came into play "“If porn hasn’t yet been made of an object, porn will be made of it just as soon as your request is processed.”

Somebody, somewhere thought of it, made the request- and with any luck,, they will find a Rubio and Hillary look-alike to co-star in a threesome...

[FightTheFuture]

Cruz's pettiness and his compulsion to stay on rehearsed talking points come through like never before now that his egotistical fantasy is collapsing around him.    Obama takes shit for only being in elected office for 12 years before running; HRHH had eight years in the Senate.  This presumptuous dick thinks he's so f'ing brilliant that he should go from unknown state appointee lawyer to President of the US in less than four years.  And some worry about Trump's ego?

Simmer down, old-timer; you`re gonna stroke-out before you get to see Donnie  Drumpf go down in flames.

[starrmtn001]

sexy, isn't it?

Ooh baby.   Heh heh heh.

PRAISE MV!

[MV/Liberace!]

Ooh baby.   Heh heh heh.

PRAISE MV!

Yeah, I hope I didn't get you too worked up over there.

[starrmtn001]

Do I really need to remind you that rule ##34 states "If you can imagine it, there is porn of it."  Now, until very recently, this did not hold true of Ted Cruz.  So, rule 34b came into play "“If porn hasn’t yet been made of an object, porn will be made of it just as soon as your request is processed.”

Somebody, somewhere thought of it, made the request- and with any luck,, they will find a Rubio and Hillary look-alike to co-star in a threesome...

Thanks pal.   Now I'm going to have to work my arse of to un-imagine  this.

[starrmtn001]

Simmer down, old-timer; you`re gonna stroke-out before you get to see Donnie  Drumpf go down in flames.

Wake up, FTF. 

Wake up buddy . . . (gently shaking FTF).

C'mon dude, wake up.  You're talking in your sleep again.