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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM



Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 28, 2022, 08:52:08 AMCrisis Actor ☝️ also FBI and Antifa 😜

Also, you're a Marxist faggot.

K_Dubb

Franklin Graham should have listened to his father  :(

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1564376710765854722

QuoteLate in life, Graham came to view his choices differently. In a 2011 interview with Christianity Today, he said, "I ... would have steered clear of politics. I'm grateful for the opportunities God gave me to minister to people in high places; people in power have spiritual and personal needs like everyone else, and often they have no one to talk to. But looking back, I know I sometimes crossed the line, and I wouldn't do that now."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/21/billy-graham-death-richard-nixon-217039/

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 29, 2022, 05:35:00 PMFranklin Graham should have listened to his father  :(

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1564376710765854722

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/21/billy-graham-death-richard-nixon-217039/

I sorta like the tapes and people not afraid to mention the vipers. And commentaries about strange, wooded retreats. Too bad Kissinger was always undermining him. He proclaimed Texas Nat champ!

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 29, 2022, 06:15:31 PMI sorta like the tapes and people not afraid to mention the vipers. And commentaries about strange, wooded retreats. Too bad Kissinger was always undermining him. He proclaimed Texas Nat champ!

Yes, also interesting to note how clear-eyed Billy Graham was about it, and how times have changed.  These days most American support for Israel comes from Evangelicals who do it more or less reflexively based on some really dubious eschatology (these are the people you could see both on Jan. 6 and at the convoy protest in Ottawa tooting shofars) with large segments of American Jewry outside Ultra-Orthodox falling away into what they call Bad Jews, pretty critical overall.  In Israel itself, the hand-wringing makes for entertaining reading; they are freer with their language on the subject than we tend to be here.

https://www.jpost.com/tags/christian-zionism

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 29, 2022, 07:51:39 PMYes, also interesting to note how clear-eyed Billy Graham was about it, and how times have changed.  These days most American support for Israel comes from Evangelicals who do it more or less reflexively based on some really dubious eschatology (these are the people you could see both on Jan. 6 and at the convoy protest in Ottawa tooting shofars) with large segments of American Jewry outside Ultra-Orthodox falling away into what they call Bad Jews, pretty critical overall.  In Israel itself, the hand-wringing makes for entertaining reading; they are freer with their language on the subject than we tend to be here.

https://www.jpost.com/tags/christian-zionism

I think there was a turn when the Scofield Bible got into prominence. Also some preacher-types figured 'hey let's go where the money is.' The strange thing is that despite the tours, the money, the political support, etc some of the most fervent still are like "yeah they going all the hell eventually but we got to help them out to bring out the final battle(s) and so on."

I forget their name now but there was some famous Rabbi/sect/group who was very anti-Israel and had a following, marches, etc. Theory being that the modern state can't come about before some other key events (like Messiah coming back.) Was not against Jews (there are Jewish) but against the modern state because not fitting with the program.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 30, 2022, 10:22:54 AMI think there was a turn when the Scofield Bible got into prominence. Also some preacher-types figured 'hey let's go where the money is.' The strange thing is that despite the tours, the money, the political support, etc some of the most fervent still are like "yeah they going all the hell eventually but we got to help them out to bring out the final battle(s) and so on."

I forget their name now but there was some famous Rabbi/sect/group who was very anti-Israel and had a following, marches, etc. Theory being that the modern state can't come about before some other key events (like Messiah coming back.) Was not against Jews (there are Jewish) but against the modern state because not fitting with the program.


Haha yeah oh man all the charts and stuff of the ages; that is how I was taught 10th-grade world history, it is an miracle I learned anything of value.  Being Pentecostal I am of course not unfriendly to the ideas as fun to think about and watch for signs but not taught as gospel the way they do, we have created our own Protestant midrash of old guys' noodling and the idea that it id a major influence on this country's Middle East policy is underwear-on-head bonkers.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 30, 2022, 11:24:04 AMHaha yeah oh man all the charts and stuff of the ages; that is how I was taught 10th-grade world history, it is an miracle I learned anything of value.  Being Pentecostal I am of course not unfriendly to the ideas as fun to think about and watch for signs but not taught as gospel the way they do, we have created our own Protestant midrash of old guys' noodling and the idea that it id a major influence on this country's Middle East policy is underwear-on-head bonkers.

Lest I be accused on many levels even I have to admit "Escape From Freedom" was a great title. Grabs you! Because the dichotomy apparent by the title (they are good at this.) But fellow-traveler Chomsky said he was superficial. So there! Never read a book by the cover but I think this is still a natural instinct. Look at the enterprises that have been built by Whitley's cover! Hours of AM radio and tv shows.

K_Dubb


https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1565099693713289217

I don't think anyone was under the impression that the stuff was discovered strewn all over the floor, the issue is that he had them in the first place.  Had Trump not said anything, they'd probably be content to recover them quietly but, if he insists on making a federal case out of it, he's gonna get a federal case 🤷

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 05:03:03 PMhttps://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1565099693713289217

I don't think anyone was under the impression that the stuff was discovered strewn all over the floor, the issue is that he had them in the first place.  Had Trump not said anything, they'd probably be content to recover them quietly but, if he insists on making a federal case out of it, he's gonna get a federal case 🤷

Even from their encyclopedia! Amazing stuff.
"Haberman was born on October 30, 1973, in New York City, the daughter of Clyde Haberman, who became a longtime journalist for The New York Times, and Nancy Haberman (née Spies)"

This is not to excuse Trump and his problems, some self-inflected, others maybe by 'others' including serpents in his own garden.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2022, 05:19:53 PMEven from their encyclopedia! Amazing stuff.
"Haberman was born on October 30, 1973, in New York City, the daughter of Clyde Haberman, who became a longtime journalist for The New York Times, and Nancy Haberman (née Spies)"

This is not to excuse Trump and his problems, some self-inflected, others maybe by 'others' including serpents in his own garden.

Haberman is one of them, she is regularly derided as a "Trump Whisperer" or the new "access journalist" who cozies up to him for inside info and then traffics in it making sure it is presented in a favorable light, or at least without the requisite shrieks of outrage that seem to be the only acceptable tone.

I am more interested in the "cartons".  I will admit to employing similar filing systems on occasion during my leaner years but for a palatial retreat like Mar a Lardo that seems a little, um, déclassé.


K_Dubb

Also that carpet is hideous, very Sahara Casino circa 2003


albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 05:31:02 PMHaberman is one of them, she is regularly derided as a "Trump Whisperer" or the new "access journalist" who cozies up to him for inside info and then traffics in it making sure it is presented in a favorable light, or at least without the requisite shrieks of outrage that seem to be the only acceptable tone.

I am more interested in the "cartons".  I will admit to employing similar filing systems on occasion during my leaner years but for a palatial retreat like Mar a Lardo that seems a little, um, déclassé.



The odd thing is that he had 'history,' and so one naturally wonders how in the heck would you take, or keep records, assuming such was done? That rookie movie. Didn't Dad or Cohn teach him anything? Even a half-way normal person likes to purge records, or retain those of value, dependent on tax situations, age, changes in technology, etc. Or the 'others' who likely keep DEEP records for use in value later. So who knows!? The various people involved have histories also. I guess it will come out whose hand-washing another.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2022, 05:45:35 PMThe odd thing is that he had 'history,' and so one naturally wonders how in the heck would you take, or keep records, assuming such was done? That rookie movie. Didn't Dad or Cohn teach him anything? Even a half-way normal person likes to purge records, or retain those of value, dependent on tax situations, age, changes in technology, etc. Or the 'others' who likely keep DEEP records for use in value later. So who knows!? The various people involved have histories also. I guess it will come out whose hand-washing another.

Among the theories cited (leaving aside leverage/blackmail/actually selling state secrets) are that he is a pack rat, which is probably the most favorable spin you can offer, and also a territorial jackass not deigning to deal with emissaries from the National Archives who are essentially librarians and little people and leaving to aides to try to cover him by false assurances they have scoured the premises when they are really afraid to go in his desk.  Standard asshole boss stuff.  The aides will suffer since they are the ones who lied on his behalf, but he has never been particularly concerned with protecting his minions.




albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 05:56:29 PMAmong the theories cited (leaving aside leverage/blackmail/actually selling state secrets) are that he is a pack rat, which is probably the most favorable spin you can offer, and also a territorial jackass not deigning to deal with emissaries from the National Archives who are essentially librarians and little people and leaving to aides to try to cover him by false assurances they have scoured the premises when they are really afraid to go in his desk.  Standard asshole boss stuff.  The aides will suffer since they are the ones who lied on his behalf, but he has never been particularly concerned with protecting his minions.





Minions, by nature, are expendable. Like pawns but CAN be very important in the game, so shouldn't be ignored. Interesting about maybe he a 'hoarder.' I would've thought so. He seemed to be a 'no memos, no past' sort. Doesn't read and so. Maybe a ploy. There is, likely, a curve or description of having lots of stuff but, at least periodically, purging. I will consult- as our new rights- the local chapters, once I self id'd and get past the house mothers.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2022, 06:25:44 PMMinions, by nature, are expendable. Like pawns but CAN be very important in the game, so shouldn't be ignored. Interesting about maybe he a 'hoarder.' I would've thought so. He seemed to be a 'no memos, no past' sort. Doesn't read and so. Maybe a ploy. There is, likely, a curve or description of having lots of stuff but, at least periodically, purging. I will consult- as our new rights- the local chapters, once I self id'd and get past the house mothers.

Haha "house mothers" what sort of house are you visiting there 👀 I suspect he is a salacious and prurient gossip-monger and just keeps juicy stuff by sort of instinct, "Info re: President of France", might be useful in future deals, you know.

Interesting that in April and again today wants to assert executive privilege, someone wants to still play President 🤪

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 07:22:35 PMHaha "house mothers" what sort of house are you visiting there 👀 I suspect he is a salacious and prurient gossip-monger and just keeps juicy stuff by sort of instinct, "Info re: President of France", might be useful in future deals, you know.

Interesting that in April and again today wants to assert executive privilege, someone wants to still play President 🤪

He was president, you idiot, and should be afforded the same rights and privilages as every president that came before him. You don't get to make exceptions cuz it's someone you and the deep state dicks you suck don't like.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 31, 2022, 07:37:15 PMHe was president, you idiot, and should be afforded the same rights and privilages as every president that came before him. You don't get to make exceptions cuz it's someone you and the deep state dicks you suck don't like.

Executive privilege is a constitutional idea based on the separation of powers that recognizes that the Executive Branch needs some privacy from the other two in order to function.  Trumpykins hasn't had a constitutional role since January 2021.  It's like saying he should still get to fly on Air Force One.  I think he's got a whole fantasy shadow-president thing going on in his head 🤡🤡🤡

pate

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 31, 2022, 07:37:15 PMHe was president, you idiot, and should be afforded the same rights and privilages as every president that came before him. You don't get to make exceptions cuz it's someone you and the deep state dicks you suck don't like.

That's a good one, Coach!

-p

K_Dubb

(Not that there's anything wrong with fantasy shadow-presidencies, sir; I am rather fond of one myself. but I am pretty sure that if I knocked on Kamala's back door and tried to bang the Second Gentleman I'd be put in the looney-bin.)

K_Dubb

Actually if you want to get technical the representative of the Executive Branch here who theoretically possesses executive privilege is the DOJ.


pate

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 07:55:41 PM(... if I knocked on Kamala's back door and tried to bang the Second Gentleman ...)

That sounds uber-kinky, my Shadow Veep!



Lady-boy and then "husband," both at the same time, or Second Gentleman then theythe hobo elite partner?

I think there should be some '70s porn music (arranged for the accordion, of course) somewhere in this fantasy of yours.

You may award yourself another delicious plum, my friend.

pate/K_Dubb 2024
"WHO farted in the elevator?"

K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on August 31, 2022, 08:03:15 PMThat sounds uber-kinky, my Shadow Veep!



Lady-boy and then "husband," both at the same time, or Second Gentleman then theythe hobo elite partner?

I think there should be some '70s porn music (arranged for the accordion, of course) somewhere in this fantasy of yours.

You may award yourself another delicious plum, my friend.

pate/K_Dubb 2024
"WHO farted in the elevator?"


Haha tbqh she kind of has that strong-jawed former WNBA look that makes me go hmmm

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 31, 2022, 07:37:15 PMHe was president, you idiot, and should be afforded the same rights and privilages as every president that came before him. You don't get to make exceptions cuz it's someone you and the deep state dicks you suck don't like.

It's amazing the amount of time you, as an allegedly 'straight' man, talks about sucking dicks.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: SredniVashtar on September 01, 2022, 03:13:08 AMIt's amazing the amount of time you, as an allegedly 'straight' man, talks about sucking dicks.

Just trying to keep it something you and the other queers who populated this board can relate to. ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 31, 2022, 08:03:10 PMActually if you want to get technical the representative of the Executive Branch here who theoretically possesses executive privilege is the DOJ.



So, the DOJ is actually the president now?!

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 01, 2022, 03:23:06 AMSo, the DOJ is actually the president now?!

Yes.  The president is the Chief law-enforcement officer of the country and all the executive departments including DOJ are really just extensions of Joe Biden , maybe it is helpful if you can think of them as little Bidens running around wearing woowoo hats.  So when Trumpiekins says you are not the boss of me they all just look at Joe Biden and he is like nah.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 01, 2022, 04:49:38 AMYes.  The president is the Chief law-enforcement officer of the country and all the executive departments including DOJ are really just extensions of Joe Biden , maybe it is helpful if you can think of them as little Bidens running around wearing woowoo hats.  So when Trumpiekins says you are not the boss of me they all just look at Joe Biden and he is like nah.

There was talk when Nixon was hammered. Also alleged that Mrs.Wilson was running things (really Colonel House.) Both JFK and a Roosevelt attempted to hide themselves being cripples. JFK was claimed to be jacked up by the infamous doctor to the stars. LBJ had key aid caught in a 'situation' in a public bathroom that WAPO killed the story. He got sent home to run the station. Who knows how they reanimate Biden everyday? Medical records aren't released and a lot of 'vacations.' In some circles there is talk of body-doubles or, I love this one, some kind of alien/demon/ai/repetilian type of thing (apparently there is video of some weird snake-like entities in his sleeves.) Regardless of situation he is not in charge- of his faculties or the country. So who knows? Obama's handlers likely.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on September 01, 2022, 07:01:39 AMThere was talk when Nixon was hammered. Also alleged that Mrs.Wilson was running things (really Colonel House.) Both JFK and a Roosevelt attempted to hide themselves being cripples. JFK was claimed to be jacked up by the infamous doctor to the stars. LBJ had key aid caught in a 'situation' in a public bathroom that WAPO killed the story. He got sent home to run the station. Who knows how they reanimate Biden everyday? Medical records aren't released and a lot of 'vacations.' In some circles there is talk of body-doubles or, I love this one, some kind of alien/demon/ai/repetilian type of thing (apparently there is video of some weird snake-like entities in his sleeves.) Regardless of situation he is not in charge- of his faculties or the country. So who knows? Obama's handlers likely.

Whether Biden himself is in charge is another question, highly doubtful; I think he has good days and bad days.  Never saw Trympykins on a bicycle.  Though didn't he want to drive firetrucks or something and they had to pull him off?  Something to be said about vehicular signaling, right wingers love giant rumbling machines they can squirrel their Bubba the Hutt bodies away in and still feel potent, lefties knobble-kneed out there on spindly self-propelled contraptions looking ridiculous but all-important and worth risking bruising your dementia-patient figurehead out there in public just to persuade people that bug-eating is good and we will enter the FEMA camps under our own power.

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