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pate

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2020, 03:32:40 PM
Welcome to the red kingdom! ;D

Fuck yeah!


https://youtu.be/L0lz3VIANyE

Superbowl LV, biotches!

Haters have to recognize.

-p

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: Ciardelo on October 30, 2020, 08:29:32 PM
They said "The Biden campaign has said" not that Fox was vouching for what the campaign said about the returns.

That's very different from what you are trying to imply.

If I were trying to imply that Fox vouched for Biden's tax returns, I would have paraphrased the statement instead of using the full, direct quote "The Biden campaign has said...."

My reason for citing Fox News as a source is so that no one could accuse me of parroting the "fake MSN" or whatever right-wingers call news they don't like.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 31, 2020, 08:32:15 PM
If I were trying to imply that Fox vouched for Biden's tax returns, I would have paraphrased the statement instead of using the full, direct quote "The Biden campaign has said...."

My reason for citing Fox News as a source is so that no one could accuse me of parroting the "fake MSN" or whatever right-wingers call news they don't like.

You’re both full of shit. 4 more years! :D

Ciardelo

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2020, 08:36:30 PM
You’re both full of shit. 4 more years! :D

Nice rebuttal Doc! At least as good as an anonymous source that claimed Trump was ready to resign...you remember that bullshit?

Where's those 1000's of sealed indictments GG?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Ciardelo on October 31, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
Nice rebuttal Doc! At least as good as an anonymous source that claimed Trump was ready to resign...you remember that bullshit?

Where's those 1000's of sealed indictments GG?

I remember it all...and that’s their problem with me. Commies aren’t a big fan of memory. It makes the daily reprogramming more challenging. ;)

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 30, 2020, 08:27:23 PM
So, you’re cool with the fact that he, like Hillary and most of the Obama admin, apparently, was selling his influence to other nations and therefore compromising the security of our own?

There's no evidence that didn't come out of the right-wing echo chamber that proves Biden did anything wrong.

On the other hand, there are plenty of reasons to suspect that Donald Trump owes a lot of money to people or nations who may not be the best fit for our national security. In a previous real estate downturn â€" not the one that started in 2008 with subprime mortgages â€" Trump essentially retooled his company as licensing and management operation.

This previous downturn was caused by overbuilding, creating a glut of “see-through” office buildings which led to a credit crunch. Overleveraged developers couldn't get permanent loans to take out their construction loans.

A lot of reputable developers handed their projects back to the lenders. But if you've ever talked to a special servicer, bank REO officer or any other professional who deals with problem loans, you know that giving the keys back to the lenders does not preclude you from ever getting another loan.

What matters is how you conducted yourself. Did you deal honestly with the lenders and kept them apprised of the situation? Did you use the loan proceeds to line your own pockets, or did you use it for its intended purpose, such as brokerage commissions, tenant improvement build-outs, and maintenance?

Eventually, traditional lending came back. But in what universe does dealing with honesty and integrity sound like Donald Trump? A string of lawsuits from the contractors and subcontractors he stiffed says otherwise.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 31, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
There's no evidence that didn't come out of the right-wing echo chamber that proves Biden did anything wrong.

On the other hand, there are plenty of reasons to suspect that Donald Trump owes a lot of money to people or nations who may not be the best fit for our national security. In a previous real estate downturn â€" not the one that started in 2008 with subprime mortgages â€" Trump essentially retooled his company as licensing and management operation.

This previous downturn was caused by overbuilding, creating a glut of “see-through” office buildings which led to a credit crunch. Overleveraged developers couldn't get permanent loans to take out their construction loans.

A lot of reputable developers handed their projects back to the lenders. But if you've ever talked to a special servicer, bank REO officer or any other professional who deals with problem loans, you know that giving the keys back to the lenders does not preclude you from ever getting another loan.

What matters is how you conducted yourself. Did you deal honestly with the lenders and kept them apprised of the situation? Did you use the loan proceeds to line your own pockets, or did you use it for its intended purpose, such as brokerage commissions, tenant improvement build-outs, and maintenance?

Eventually, traditional lending came back. But in what universe does dealing with honesty and integrity sound like Donald Trump? A string of lawsuits from the contractors and subcontractors he stiffed says otherwise.

I think there is evidence from the FBI. Apparently an investigation into this has been ongoing since 2019. Best of luck with your thoroughly corrupt candidate. 4 more years!  ;D


Jackstar

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Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 31, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
There's no evidence that didn't come out of the right-wing echo chamber that proves Biden did anything wrong.

Grow up.

albrecht

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 31, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
There's no evidence that didn't come out of the right-wing echo chamber that proves Biden did anything wrong.

On the other hand, there are plenty of reasons to suspect that Donald Trump owes a lot of money to people or nations who may not be the best fit for our national security. In a previous real estate downturn â€" not the one that started in 2008 with subprime mortgages â€" Trump essentially retooled his company as licensing and management operation.

This previous downturn was caused by overbuilding, creating a glut of “see-through” office buildings which led to a credit crunch. Overleveraged developers couldn't get permanent loans to take out their construction loans.

A lot of reputable developers handed their projects back to the lenders. But if you've ever talked to a special servicer, bank REO officer or any other professional who deals with problem loans, you know that giving the keys back to the lenders does not preclude you from ever getting another loan.

What matters is how you conducted yourself. Did you deal honestly with the lenders and kept them apprised of the situation? Did you use the loan proceeds to line your own pockets, or did you use it for its intended purpose, such as brokerage commissions, tenant improvement build-outs, and maintenance?

Eventually, traditional lending came back. But in what universe does dealing with honesty and integrity sound like Donald Trump? A string of lawsuits from the contractors and subcontractors he stiffed says otherwise.
For the sake of argument ignore the Biden allegations from the "rightwing echo chambers," or his son's laptop. Why would a Democrat or Progressive support voting for Biden? Unless it is simply a cynical move as one thinks he will soon be replaced by Harris. Or just the emotional "Orangeman Bad?" Or what?

Surely a man who has represented the State of Delaware for DECADES is not at all a  'progressive' choice- unless by 'progressive' you mean corporations, LLCs, credit card companies, banks- the VAST majority of which incorporate in Delaware due to their laws and regulations. Frigging DuPont was founded and still based there (mergers with DOW and spinoffs aside!) 


And how does an elderly, rich, white man support BLMs cause? Simply because he supposedly faced down Corn Pop? Or was VP under what he described as a "clean black?" Yes, Corn Pop was a 'bad dude' but if they had his crime bill back then Corn Pop might have been behind bars already, carrying a rusty razor and such. And Biden using a chain against Corn Pop could've triggered other blacks at that pool. Politically incorrect choice of weapon to go after Corn Pop.

DanTSX

Quote from: Jackstar on October 31, 2020, 02:29:01 PM
One's reach must exceed one's grasp, else, what would one reach for?

A dictionary would be a good start.

paladin1991

Quote from: malachi.martini on October 30, 2020, 10:05:55 PM


Jewish newspapers openly gloat about this, and then write articles about how it's racist to notice this.

Doc confirmed at least 50 iq points higher than pally.

don't take it personal (((malachai)))

paladin1991

Quote from: DanTSX on October 31, 2020, 12:40:56 AM
Wow.  Thread grows like crazy once religious group making 2% of USA population is Mentioned.

Creepy love for them
It's the pre-emptive Godwin of a thread.

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2020, 07:05:42 AM
You guys are almost as bad as your preferred candidate. You can’t seem to remember that it’s Donald J. Trump who is the president now, not G.W. Bush. ::)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0DRjlfvhw

bibbidity bibbidty bibbidty

fucking deranged Sleepy Dopey Joe


Juan

It would appear we now have a coalition of progs/leftists/socialists or whatever they want to be called today, and the big banks and big corporations.  The leftists can have their political power as long as the big guys can rake in the money.  Isn’t that Whig leader Henry Clay’s so-called American Plan from the 1840s?

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 30, 2020, 02:00:03 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-trump-tax-cuts-werent-about-the-rich-they-were-about-you

As part of their pitch to voters, Democrats have repeatedly claimed that the Trump-Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 overwhelmingly benefited “the rich.”

According to IRS statistics of income data analyzed by Americans for Tax Reform, families earning between $50,000 and $100,000 saw their average tax liability drop by over 13% between 2017 and 2018. By comparison, those with income over $1 million saw a far smaller tax cut averaging just 5.8%.

The TCJA contained numerous provisions that benefited families, such as the doubling of the child tax credit from $1,000 to $2,000. Not only did this reduce taxes for families, but the number of households claiming the credit increased from 22 million to 36 million.

The tax code was simplified through the doubling of the standard deduction from $12,000 to $24,000. Because of this reform, the number of families itemizing dropped by 30 million as these families now had the option of streamlining their tax filing process and claiming the standard deduction.

The Trump tax cuts also repealed the Obamacare individual mandate tax by zeroing out the penalty. Prior to the passage of the bill, the mandate imposed a tax of up to $2,085 on households that failed to purchase government-approved healthcare. Five million people paid this in 2017, and 75% of these households earned less than $75,000.

Wrong.

According to an April 2019 article in Forbes: “The biggest winners in the Trump tax cuts were corporations and the households that get income from corporate profitsâ€" that is, the very wealthiest Americans.“

According to a May 2019 report by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), a federal agency housed within the Library of Congress: “Most of the tax cut went to businesses and higher income individuals who are less likely to spend the increases.”

In other words, their tax savings aren't being put back into the economy.

According to the Wall Street Journal, an estimated three-fourths of the increase in savings since the tax cuts took effect has benefited the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans.

The Guardian: “The 2017 Tax and Jobs Act â€" the Trump administration's one major piece of enacted legislation â€" did deliver the biggest corporate tax cut in US history, but ultimately workers benefited almost not at all. In the first three months after the bill passed, the average weekly paycheck rose by $6.21. That would be $233 a year.“

According to the nonpartisan (but liberal-leaning) Tax Policy Center, the wealthiest 20 percent of families saw their post-tax income increase by an average 2.9 percent after the cuts. Middle-income earners saw just a 1.6 percent increase.

Your source credited the doubling of the child tax credit and standard deduction as a financial boon for families. The CRS report states: “The increase in the standard deduction and child and dependent credit was roughly offset by the elimination of the personal exemption.”

Trump's tax cuts doubled the estate tax exemption from $5.49 million in 2017 to $11.18 million in 2018. This is the value of an estate before it would be subject to estate taxes. Does this sound like something that would benefit Joe Lunchbucket?

The repeal of the individual mandate did result in some savings for people without health insurance -- as long as they didn't get sick. There's a pretty high cost for not having health insurance during a medical emergency.

And what about the corporations that promised to use their tax savings to boost employee wages?

According to the Center for Public Integrity, the bulk of the corporate tax savings in 2018 went into shareholder dividends and stock buy-backs.

Per the CRS report: “Much of these funds, the data indicate, has been used for a record-breaking amount of stock buybacks, with $1 trillion announced by the end of 2018.”

Obviously, this largely benefits the wealthy, who control the majority of U.S. stock value.

Firms that spent any of their tax savings to help workers at all opted for one-time bonuses rather than wage hikes. Citing data from an organization that tracks such things, the CRS report said corporations devoted a total of $4.4 billion to worker bonuses. “With U.S. employment of 157 million, this amount is $28 per worker.”

Hardly the $4,000 pay raise that Trump said workers would get.

K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on October 31, 2020, 01:53:28 PM
You did not let me down, K_Dubb.  I would rather lose this campaign standing on our feet staying true to the Make America Pate Again ideals, than kneel before the wreckage of good old Dark Humor.  Anyone that could not laugh at your "...I guess when all you have is an oven, everything looks like a Jew..." is either a Communist or a Nazi, and not a Freedom Loving American.

There is no laughing in Communism or National Socialism, they are both dour and taciturn evils:  Twins of a sort, different sides of the same Marxist coin.

Let us whistle past the graveyard of failed political ideals!  Heads held high and onward to the next battle, this one is not over yet.  There are still the truckloads of last-minute Mail-in Ballots that were posted yesterday, "they" cannot possibly intercept them all and feed them to the Dumpster Gods!



Let us not stop running this close to the Finnish Line:  damn the Swedes, full speed ahead!

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


ediot:

Mongo may be of your race;  sometimes I notice that his "lipstick" is out when I rub his belly...  And he is always jumping in my lap when I am reclining in the La-Z-Boy or trying to sneak under the blankets when I am trying to sleep.  Nautical Shore.

Haha Mongo is my spirit animal!  I am buoyed by your faith in me, by the kindness you have shown, and by the call to mirth which never feels like a duty.

There are, of course, many reasons to fuck the Swedes but paramount in my own personal history is the assistance they rendered to that mongrel race that sought to claim our glory for its own.  When I get a whiff of that grotesque fable they told themselves I dream it is 1945 and I am in selbusokker og finnesko happily kicking the shit out of some poor cabbage-head until he repeats "Leve Haakon Syvende" and "Alt for Norge"

K_Dubb

Quote from: malachi.martini on October 31, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
The projection never ends with shitlibs, point out how ugly they make the world and it's all lampshades and ovens.

>the absolute state of things when fascists complain about prejudice

DanTSX

Quote from: K_Dubb on November 01, 2020, 10:56:31 AM
>the absolute state of things when fascists complain about prejudice

Please revert to Redditspacing if you are unable to greentext properly Cope_Dubb

DanTSX

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on November 01, 2020, 10:23:36 AM
Wrong.

According to an April 2019 article in Forbes: “The biggest winners in the Trump tax cuts were corporations and the households that get income from corporate profitsâ€" that is, the very wealthiest Americans.“

According to a May 2019 report by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), a federal agency housed within the Library of Congress: “Most of the tax cut went to businesses and higher income individuals who are less likely to spend the increases.”

In other words, their tax savings aren't being put back into the economy.

According to the Wall Street Journal, an estimated three-fourths of the increase in savings since the tax cuts took effect has benefited the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans.

The Guardian: “The 2017 Tax and Jobs Act â€" the Trump administration's one major piece of enacted legislation â€" did deliver the biggest corporate tax cut in US history, but ultimately workers benefited almost not at all. In the first three months after the bill passed, the average weekly paycheck rose by $6.21. That would be $233 a year.“

According to the nonpartisan (but liberal-leaning) Tax Policy Center, the wealthiest 20 percent of families saw their post-tax income increase by an average 2.9 percent after the cuts. Middle-income earners saw just a 1.6 percent increase.

Your source credited the doubling of the child tax credit and standard deduction as a financial boon for families. The CRS report states: “The increase in the standard deduction and child and dependent credit was roughly offset by the elimination of the personal exemption.”

Trump's tax cuts doubled the estate tax exemption from $5.49 million in 2017 to $11.18 million in 2018. This is the value of an estate before it would be subject to estate taxes. Does this sound like something that would benefit Joe Lunchbucket?

The repeal of the individual mandate did result in some savings for people without health insurance -- as long as they didn't get sick. There's a pretty high cost for not having health insurance during a medical emergency.

And what about the corporations that promised to use their tax savings to boost employee wages?

According to the Center for Public Integrity, the bulk of the corporate tax savings in 2018 went into shareholder dividends and stock buy-backs.

Per the CRS report: “Much of these funds, the data indicate, has been used for a record-breaking amount of stock buybacks, with $1 trillion announced by the end of 2018.”

Obviously, this largely benefits the wealthy, who control the majority of U.S. stock value.

Firms that spent any of their tax savings to help workers at all opted for one-time bonuses rather than wage hikes. Citing data from an organization that tracks such things, the CRS report said corporations devoted a total of $4.4 billion to worker bonuses. “With U.S. employment of 157 million, this amount is $28 per worker.”

Hardly the $4,000 pay raise that Trump said workers would get.

I ain’t reading all that cope.


Tax savings here were about $190 per pay cycle here.  Please multiply that Number by 26 to see how much crow you need to eat.


K_Dubb

Quote from: DanTSX on November 01, 2020, 11:12:00 AM


Please revert to Redditspacing if you are unable to greentext properly Cope_Dubb

I reject your authoritarian conformity and wipe my ass with your spacing requirements

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: albrecht on October 31, 2020, 10:47:52 PM
For the sake of argument ignore the Biden allegations from the "rightwing echo chambers," or his son's laptop. Why would a Democrat or Progressive support voting for Biden? Unless it is simply a cynical move as one thinks he will soon be replaced by Harris. Or just the emotional "Orangeman Bad?" Or what?

Surely a man who has represented the State of Delaware for DECADES is not at all a  'progressive' choice- unless by 'progressive' you mean corporations, LLCs, credit card companies, banks- the VAST majority of which incorporate in Delaware due to their laws and regulations. Frigging DuPont was founded and still based there (mergers with DOW and spinoffs aside!) 


And how does an elderly, rich, white man support BLMs cause? Simply because he supposedly faced down Corn Pop? Or was VP under what he described as a "clean black?" Yes, Corn Pop was a 'bad dude' but if they had his crime bill back then Corn Pop might have been behind bars already, carrying a rusty razor and such. And Biden using a chain against Corn Pop could've triggered other blacks at that pool. Politically incorrect choice of weapon to go after Corn Pop.

"...or his son's laptop." You mean the laptop that addle-brained Rudy Giuliani just showed up with one day, whose provenance is so sketchy that the news side of Fox News (as opposed to the opinion side) won't even cover it?

I'm voting for Biden because I'm sick of this mendacious president who has told more than 20,000 lies since taking office. I'm tired of this grifting president whose weekend jaunts to Mar-a-Lago and other Trump properties has cost U.S. taxpayers millions in terms of rooms, meals and golf cart rentals for his Secret Service detail.

And what about the lobbyists and foreign dignitaries who flock to his Trump Hotel in Washington, DC? This income is supposed to be reported under the emoluments clause, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Or jacking up the cost of a membership at Mar-a-Lago after he won the 2016 election? He's the first U.S. president I'm aware of who has monetized the office!

Or after winning the 2016 GOP nomination, what about charging rent for his campaign offices in Trump Tower that were wildly above Manhattan office rents? (At least he was only swindling Republican donors!)

"Surely a man who has represented the State of Delaware for DECADES is not at all a  'progressive' choice...." Oh, you mean Biden isn't a progressive, or as Trump puts it, a "radical socialist"?

"unless by 'progressive' you mean corporations, LLCs, credit card companies, banks- the VAST majority of which incorporate in Delaware due to their laws and regulations."

Yes, one of my first newspaper jobs was writing quarterly earnings reports for public companies, and I noticed a lot of them were "Delaware corporations." I'm not sure how much Biden had to do with that.

By the way, if you're penalizing politicians for their length of service, why aren't you going after GOP dinosaurs like Mitch McConnell and Chuck Grassley?

"And how does an elderly, rich, white man support BLMs cause? Simply because he supposedly faced down Corn Pop?"

I don't know who the heck "Corn Pop" is, but I think Biden, like most Americans, are distressed to see unarmed black men gunned down by police, while armed white men who actually have killed cops and others seem to be taken into custody alive.

To be honest, I wasn't a fan of Biden, but I think Trump is dangerous and leading the country in the wrong direction, especially with his maskless, non-social distancing rallies during the pandemic. Unlike Biden, Trump has no empathy for anyone who doesn't have the last name of Trump.

Biden is trying to save lives. Trump is just trying to save his job.

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: DanTSX on November 01, 2020, 11:15:13 AM
I ain’t reading all that cope.


Tax savings here were about $190 per pay cycle here.  Please multiply that Number by 26 to see how much crow you need to eat.

I don't care if you don't read all that "cope." I presented a well-researched argument with numerous, diverse sources.

You presented a personal anecdote.

DanTSX

Quote from: K_Dubb on November 01, 2020, 11:22:09 AM
I reject your authoritarian conformity and wipe my ass with your spacing requirements


Observe a proponent of cancel culture calling me out for authoritarian conformity...


Edited....no reason to be extra mean

DanTSX

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on November 01, 2020, 11:28:59 AM
I don't care if you don't read all that "cope." I presented a well-researched argument with numerous, diverse sources.

You presented a personal anecdote.


Research some more then.  The $4000 average savings is on average, and I’m Well above the “average” Used.  So the range that it benefited was quite wide.


Biden did pretty much everything that benefits Delaware corporations.  He’s a corporate stooge and exactly why you are complaining about Trump’s taxes (which you don’t understand to start with)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on November 01, 2020, 10:23:36 AM
Wrong.

According to an April 2019 article in Forbes: “The biggest winners in the Trump tax cuts were corporations and the households that get income from corporate profitsâ€" that is, the very wealthiest Americans.“

According to a May 2019 report by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), a federal agency housed within the Library of Congress: “Most of the tax cut went to businesses and higher income individuals who are less likely to spend the increases.”

In other words, their tax savings aren't being put back into the economy.

According to the Wall Street Journal, an estimated three-fourths of the increase in savings since the tax cuts took effect has benefited the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans.

The Guardian: “The 2017 Tax and Jobs Act â€" the Trump administration's one major piece of enacted legislation â€" did deliver the biggest corporate tax cut in US history, but ultimately workers benefited almost not at all. In the first three months after the bill passed, the average weekly paycheck rose by $6.21. That would be $233 a year.“

According to the nonpartisan (but liberal-leaning) Tax Policy Center, the wealthiest 20 percent of families saw their post-tax income increase by an average 2.9 percent after the cuts. Middle-income earners saw just a 1.6 percent increase.

Your source credited the doubling of the child tax credit and standard deduction as a financial boon for families. The CRS report states: “The increase in the standard deduction and child and dependent credit was roughly offset by the elimination of the personal exemption.”

Trump's tax cuts doubled the estate tax exemption from $5.49 million in 2017 to $11.18 million in 2018. This is the value of an estate before it would be subject to estate taxes. Does this sound like something that would benefit Joe Lunchbucket?

The repeal of the individual mandate did result in some savings for people without health insurance -- as long as they didn't get sick. There's a pretty high cost for not having health insurance during a medical emergency.

And what about the corporations that promised to use their tax savings to boost employee wages?

According to the Center for Public Integrity, the bulk of the corporate tax savings in 2018 went into shareholder dividends and stock buy-backs.

Per the CRS report: “Much of these funds, the data indicate, has been used for a record-breaking amount of stock buybacks, with $1 trillion announced by the end of 2018.”

Obviously, this largely benefits the wealthy, who control the majority of U.S. stock value.

Firms that spent any of their tax savings to help workers at all opted for one-time bonuses rather than wage hikes. Citing data from an organization that tracks such things, the CRS report said corporations devoted a total of $4.4 billion to worker bonuses. “With U.S. employment of 157 million, this amount is $28 per worker.”

Hardly the $4,000 pay raise that Trump said workers would get.

TL; DR

Tapdancer harder and faster for your thoroughly corrupt and senile candidate. ;D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on November 01, 2020, 10:56:31 AM
>the absolute state of things when fascists complain about prejudice

You’re the fascist.

Ciardelo

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on November 01, 2020, 11:26:40 AMI don't know who the heck "Corn Pop" is

You really are a low-information voter aren't you? LOL

Whatever the MSM echo chamber contrives, you're comfortably on-board. HAHAHA

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on November 01, 2020, 11:26:40 AM
"...or his son's laptop." You mean the laptop that addle-brained Rudy Giuliani just showed up with one day, whose provenance is so sketchy that the news side of Fox News (as opposed to the opinion side) won't even cover it?

I'm voting for Biden because I'm sick of this mendacious president who has told more than 20,000 lies since taking office. I'm tired of this grifting president whose weekend jaunts to Mar-a-Lago and other Trump properties has cost U.S. taxpayers millions in terms of rooms, meals and golf cart rentals for his Secret Service detail.

And what about the lobbyists and foreign dignitaries who flock to his Trump Hotel in Washington, DC? This income is supposed to be reported under the emoluments clause, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Or jacking up the cost of a membership at Mar-a-Lago after he won the 2016 election? He's the first U.S. president I'm aware of who has monetized the office!

Or after winning the 2016 GOP nomination, what about charging rent for his campaign offices in Trump Tower that were wildly above Manhattan office rents? (At least he was only swindling Republican donors!)

"Surely a man who has represented the State of Delaware for DECADES is not at all a  'progressive' choice...." Oh, you mean Biden isn't a progressive, or as Trump puts it, a "radical socialist"?

"unless by 'progressive' you mean corporations, LLCs, credit card companies, banks- the VAST majority of which incorporate in Delaware due to their laws and regulations."

Yes, one of my first newspaper jobs was writing quarterly earnings reports for public companies, and I noticed a lot of them were "Delaware corporations." I'm not sure how much Biden had to do with that.

By the way, if you're penalizing politicians for their length of service, why aren't you going after GOP dinosaurs like Mitch McConnell and Chuck Grassley?

"And how does an elderly, rich, white man support BLMs cause? Simply because he supposedly faced down Corn Pop?"

I don't know who the heck "Corn Pop" is, but I think Biden, like most Americans, are distressed to see unarmed black men gunned down by police, while armed white men who actually have killed cops and others seem to be taken into custody alive.

To be honest, I wasn't a fan of Biden, but I think Trump is dangerous and leading the country in the wrong direction, especially with his maskless, non-social distancing rallies during the pandemic. Unlike Biden, Trump has no empathy for anyone who doesn't have the last name of Trump.

Biden is trying to save lives. Trump is just trying to save his job.

Are you trying to convince yourself of this or us? If it’s the latter it’s not working. :D

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