President Donald J. Trump

[GravitySucks]

p.p.s yes he has.. 

Not really. I believe the story is that the FBI warned him in 2013 that he was a possible target for recruitment. That is a bit different than you trying to imply they have been investigating him for the last 5 years.

[Yorkshire pud]

The other night I was trying to nail you, and you know I love it when you play hard to get, but this was a genuine curiosity. If you cannot believe in something you cannot see when it comes to a Creator, how can you believe in something proscribed to be an integral part of the human body that cannot be found in a book of anatomy?

Earl Grey, hot

https://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

Did a physician once attempt to measure the weight of the human soul?

MacDougall seems not to have made any more experimental breakthroughs regarding the measurement of the human soul after 1911 (at least, none considered remarkable enough to have been reported in the pages of the New York Times), and he passed away in 1920. Nonetheless, his legacy lives on in the oft-expressed maxim that the human soul weighs 21 grams. (At the moment of death, MacDougall’s first test subject decreased in weight by three-fourths of an ounce, which is 21.3 grams.)

[albrecht]

Not really. I believe the story is that the FBI warned him in 2013 that he was a possible target for recruitment. That is a bit different than you trying to imply they have been investigating him for the last 5 years.

It is odd with all these Russian meddling and agents that Obama let it all go on? And also why, according to the Democratic narrative, Trump "didn't want to be President" and "didn't expect to win" and, yet, supposedly wanted Russian help to do so?

[GravitySucks]

https://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

Did a physician once attempt to measure the weight of the human soul?

MacDougall seems not to have made any more experimental breakthroughs regarding the measurement of the human soul after 1911 (at least, none considered remarkable enough to have been reported in the pages of the New York Times), and he passed away in 1920. Nonetheless, his legacy lives on in the oft-expressed maxim that the human soul weighs 21 grams. (At the moment of death, MacDougall’s first test subject decreased in weight by three-fourths of an ounce, which is 21.3 grams.)

I believe there is a soul. I also believe there is a God.

[Yorkshire pud]

Not really. I believe the story is that the FBI warned him in 2013 that he was a possible target for recruitment. That is a bit different than you trying to imply they have been investigating him for the last 5 years.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/02/02/the-fbi-knew-carter-page-man-center-memo-controversy-from-previous-case/RLPYbG9shgtRTrkkSbyBRJ/story.html

Page’s contacts with Russians in 2013 were also part of the application for the surveillance order, which asserted there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, according to a Washington Post report last year. But that is not mentioned in the House GOP memo.

Here’s why Page (who has not been charged with any crime) was already on the FBI’s radar:

Page met with a Russian intelligence operative in 2013 and provided him documents about the energy industry, according to filings in a 2015 espionage case in New York. The case included secret discussions between Russian spies that sounded like they were from an airport novel.

The Russian operative, Victor Podobnyy, was one of three men charged in connection with a Cold War-style Russian spy ring. According to the court filings, Podobnyy tried to recruit Page, an energy consultant working in New York at the time, as an intelligence source. Page is referred to in the document as ‘‘Male-1.’’

“I will feed him empty promises,” Podobnyy told one of his co-defendants, according to the filing.

Page’s contacts with Podobnyy happened about three years before Trump listed him as a foreign policy adviser to the campaign.

The court filings included an FBI agent’s criminal complaint that, at one point, cited a transcript of Podobnyy speaking with co-defendant Igor Sporyshev about Page.

‘‘I like that he takes on everything,’’ Podobnyy says. ‘‘For now his enthusiasm works for me. I also promised him a lot.’’

Podobnyy also said in the transcript, “I will feed him empty promises. ... This is intelligence method to cheat, how else to work with foreigners? You promise a favor for a favor. You get the documents from him and tell him to go [expletive] himself.”

The FBI agent who penned the complaint explained that in the conversation the two Russians were discussing Podobnyy’s “attempted use” of Page, who was interested in business opportunities in Russia, as an intelligence source for Russia.

The agent wrote that Podobnyy “explained his recruitment method, which includes cheating, promising favors, and then discarding the intelligence source once the relevant information is obtained.”

The agent said he and another agent had interviewed Page in June 2013 and Page told them he exchanged emails with Podobnyy and sometimes met in person. Page told the agents that he provided Podobnyy with his outlook on the “current and future of the energy industry” and “provided documents ... about the energy business.”

[Yorkshire pud]

I believe there is a soul. I also believe there is a God.

My mother believed in god, I didn't love her any less. Same goes for you Sally.

[GravitySucks]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/02/02/the-fbi-knew-carter-page-man-center-memo-controversy-from-previous-case/RLPYbG9shgtRTrkkSbyBRJ/story.html

Page’s contacts with Russians in 2013 were also part of the application for the surveillance order, which asserted there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, according to a Washington Post report last year. But that is not mentioned in the House GOP memo.

Here’s why Page (who has not been charged with any crime) was already on the FBI’s radar:

Page met with a Russian intelligence operative in 2013 and provided him documents about the energy industry, according to filings in a 2015 espionage case in New York. The case included secret discussions between Russian spies that sounded like they were from an airport novel.

The Russian operative, Victor Podobnyy, was one of three men charged in connection with a Cold War-style Russian spy ring. According to the court filings, Podobnyy tried to recruit Page, an energy consultant working in New York at the time, as an intelligence source. Page is referred to in the document as ‘‘Male-1.’’

“I will feed him empty promises,” Podobnyy told one of his co-defendants, according to the filing.

Page’s contacts with Podobnyy happened about three years before Trump listed him as a foreign policy adviser to the campaign.

The court filings included an FBI agent’s criminal complaint that, at one point, cited a transcript of Podobnyy speaking with co-defendant Igor Sporyshev about Page.

‘‘I like that he takes on everything,’’ Podobnyy says. ‘‘For now his enthusiasm works for me. I also promised him a lot.’’

Podobnyy also said in the transcript, “I will feed him empty promises. ... This is intelligence method to cheat, how else to work with foreigners? You promise a favor for a favor. You get the documents from him and tell him to go [expletive] himself.”

The FBI agent who penned the complaint explained that in the conversation the two Russians were discussing Podobnyy’s “attempted use” of Page, who was interested in business opportunities in Russia, as an intelligence source for Russia.

The agent wrote that Podobnyy “explained his recruitment method, which includes cheating, promising favors, and then discarding the intelligence source once the relevant information is obtained.”

The agent said he and another agent had interviewed Page in June 2013 and Page told them he exchanged emails with Podobnyy and sometimes met in person. Page told the agents that he provided Podobnyy with his outlook on the “current and future of the energy industry” and “provided documents ... about the energy business.”

So what is your point? He has not been under investigation “since 2013”.

[Dr. MD MD]

p.p.s yes he has.. 

p.p.p.s no he hasn't.

[GravitySucks]

My mother believed in god, I didn't love her any less. Same goes for you Sally.

God believes in you. Therefore you exist.

[Yorkshire pud]

It is odd with all these Russian meddling and agents that Obama let it all go on? And also why, according to the Democratic narrative, Trump "didn't want to be President" and "didn't expect to win" and, yet, supposedly wanted Russian help to do so?

The two are not mutually exclusive. Trump needs Russian finance for his personal use. No American bank will lend him anything because he has such a poor standing when it comes to his business practices. However, Russian banks are subject to sanctions, as too the oligarchs who run them on behalf of Putin (Putin is reputed to be the richest man in the world yet Russia has a GDP smaller than Italy's)..

Flynn if you remember had a little cosey up with the Russians when Obama was still POTUS to tell them not to worry about sanctions (If you also remember, Putin threw a Christmas party for the American embassy in Moscow, just after the sanctions were bolstered and the Russian spooks in DC were thrown out) as they'd be lifted when Trump was installed (This is why Flynn is in a bit of bother, because he forgot to mention this to the FBI)

... Trump had also got criticism of Russia and Putin removed the year before from the RNC plank (to do with Ukraine and stuff-the reason the sanctions had been put in place)..

Anyway, Trump needed Congress to remove the sanctions otherwise he wouldn't have access to the money and ability to launder any more through his properties. How many magnificent properties do you know got sold tens of MILLIONS over asking in the 2007-08 recession to Russian billionaires?

Trump may not like the job, sure he's sure making the most of AF1 to go golfing on a whim, but the actual daily job, maybe not so much. If only he could get sanctions lifted on Russia he'd be a much happier bunny I'm sure.

[GravitySucks]

State department bureaucrats hiring lawyers because they feel being assigned to the FOIA office to work off the multi year backlog is “beneath them”. God forbid they did actual productive work.

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2018/02/03/sec-of-state-tillerson-attempting-to-clear-huge-foia-backlog-at-state-department/

[Yorkshire pud]

So what is your point? He has not been under investigation “since 2013”.

LOL.. you think the FBI just noticed is very frequent trips to Moscow, connections with Russian spy chiefs and waved it off as only a shiny thing to be ignored?

[GravitySucks]

LOL.. you think the FBI just noticed is very frequent trips to Moscow, connections with Russian spy chiefs and waved it off as only a shiny thing to be ignored?

Rex Tillerson made more trips to Moscow. Shit, I have a brother-in-law that spent 90% of the last 25 years there.

[Yorkshire pud]

Rex Tillerson made more trips to Moscow. Shit, I have a brother-in-law that spent 90% of the last 25 years there.

Speaking to Russian spies? 

[GravitySucks]

Speaking to Russian spies? 

Everyone is a Russian spy. Steele included.

[Yorkshire pud]

Everyone is a Russian spy. Steele included.

LOL...Yeah okay..  :

[SredniVashtar]

The other night I was trying to nail you, and you know I love it when you play hard to get, but this was a genuine curiosity. If you cannot believe in something you cannot see when it comes to a Creator, how can you believe in something proscribed to be an integral part of the human body that cannot be found in a book of anatomy?

Earl Grey, hot

I don't think there is actually a soul. I was just using soul in a general sense to separate cultured, civilised people like myself from straw-chewing livestock-molesters. Naming no names.

[GravitySucks]

I don't think there is actually a soul. I was just using soul in a general sense to separate cultured, civilised people like myself from straw-chewing livestock-molesters. Naming no names.

Ok.  Just wonderin as I sit on the porch with my mason jar of shine, watchin for that Superb Owl I heard was going to be around this weekend.

[GravitySucks]

LOL...Yeah okay..  :

I’m serious. When I had my SCI they told me everyone I talked to was a spy.

[Yorkshire pud]

I’m serious. When I had my SCI they told me everyone I talked to was a spy.

A Russian one? Even the American spies were Russian? What about Chinese spies, are they Russian too?

[albrecht]

I don't think there is actually a soul. I was just using soul in a general sense to separate cultured, civilised people like myself from straw-chewing livestock-molesters. Naming no names.

He has been named, shamed, and sanctioned. Englishman 80-year-old John Curno has been found guilty of two counts of outraging public decency and banned from every farm in Britain.
http://www.complex.com/life/2018/02/cow-fisting-80-year-old-banned-every-farm-england
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[albrecht]

A Russian one? Even the American spies were Russian? What about Chinese spies, are they Russian too?

While Obama was busy bowing to foreign despots, throwing open the border,  and giving money to mullahs a lot of bad things happened. Even "fake news" finally had to report on it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html
"The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades."

[Dr. MD MD]

They've gone full McCarthy era police state. They're out of control and must be stopped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV36nnkMbmU

[GravitySucks]

They've gone full McCarthy era police state. They're out of control and must be stopped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV36nnkMbmU

Here is the CNN article from last October where CNN said that Trump was bonkers for speculating that Clinton and the FBI were involved with the dossier.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/03/chris-cillizza-trump-crazy-steele-dossier/

[Dr. MD MD]

I think it's time to shut down all propagandists claiming to be news stations. They're just going to keep pushing their narrative and civil unrest.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQsfbgcxG8

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPl3gM2P7yE

[Up All Night]

Eight things more likely to kill you in 1970s Britain than today


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42324984

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_guk9LC8g

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itNfAhtneUw