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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Juan

It's past noon Camp David time on Sunday, and all indications are that Trump is still president. I thought he was supposed to be out yesterday.


Gd5150

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 20, 2017, 10:04:43 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IhZF4L3GHA

If Trump leaves I won't be disappointed. He deserves to leave and go back to the good life. He made ginormous sacrifices to his own life to help the regular working class of the country. To try to get Washington moving in the right direction. He has gotten zero or help, zero support, from anyone there. 1 person cannot fix that shithole of Washington DC. It's broken. Money has totally corrupted all of it.

From the moment he was inaugurated, 5 minutes after his speach: Chris Mathews called it "Hitlarian". The media lemmings all nodded.. A perfect illustration of what Trump has been dealing with for 8 months straight. We all know about the fake Russian matter and the zero evidence that ever justified any of it let alone a special investigation.

So whatever happens happens. He stays, it infuriates the left, which is fine with me. If he leaves, we get 10 years of Pence. And maybe then things will get done. Hillary will never be president so America wins.

But make no mistake, 5 minutes after Pence is inaugurated, he will be "Hitlarian".

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 20, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
If Trump leaves I won't be disappointed. He deserves to leave and go back to the good life. He made ginormous sacrifices to his own life to help the regular working class of the country. To try to get Washington moving in the right direction. He has gotten zero or help, zero support, from anyone there. 1 person cannot fix that shithole of Washington DC. It's broken. Money has totally corrupted all of it.

From the moment he was inaugurated, 5 minutes after his speach: Chris Mathews called it "Hitlarian". The media lemmings all nodded.. A perfect illustration of what Trump has been dealing with for 8 months straight. We all know about the fake Russian matter and the zero evidence that ever justified any of it let alone a special investigation.

So whatever happens happens. He stays, it infuriates the left, which is fine with me. If he leaves, we get 10 years of Pence. And maybe then things will get done. Hillary will never be president so America wins.

But make no mistake, 5 minutes after Pence is inaugurated, he will be "Hitlarian".

Well, he may not be Hitlerian but if he's willing to try to gain power this way he doesn't have my confidence. Party line Republicans think it's just going to be business as usual but it's the same business you're willing to criticize the left for: the business of the deep state. Establishment Republicans (the ones who run and control the party) share the same allegiance and are just as involved. We voted for change not the same. It's really too bad that they're choosing to go this way.


WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 20, 2017, 05:18:48 AM
Triggered snowflake.  YAWN! ::)
Kind of what I was thinking about  Alex jones as well.  Somebody says "fuck you" and it deserves a "rant" on his "news" show...  Poor triggered snowflake.  :)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 20, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
If Trump leaves I won't be disappointed. He deserves to leave and go back to the good life. He made ginormous sacrifices to his own life to help the regular working class of the country.

List those sacrifices please. Given up golf? Nope (played more than the last three POTUS combined in tbe same time period). Reduced his income from his businesses? Nope, if anything they're increased. Eating less? Nope. Spending all his time at the WH like he said he would? Nope.  Shown his tax returns to show he's all above board like he said he would? Nope.

Exactly what has he sacrificed?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on August 20, 2017, 11:03:15 AM
Kind of what I was thinking about  Alex jones as well.  Somebody says "fuck you" and it deserves a "rant" on his "news" show...  Poor triggered snowflake.  :)

If it's so upsetting to you you could always start your own show and rant about the trivial things that bother you.  ;)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 20, 2017, 10:43:04 AM

But make no mistake, 5 minutes after Pence is inaugurated, he will be "Hitlarian".

At last!!! I knew we'd eventually have common ground. Here it is!!! Bravo!!!


WOTR

Quote from: Juan on August 20, 2017, 10:30:33 AM
It's past noon Camp David time on Sunday, and all indications are that Trump is still president. I thought he was supposed to be out yesterday.
WTF?  my anonymous internet sources were saying he was to be ousted.  Now like the other nut cases, they will just change the  timeline  to next week, then next year.  It is kind of like those who know when the second coming is... Every few years I give everything I own away in anticipation of the main event...

Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 11:04:08 AM
Shown his tax returns to show he's all above board like he said he would?

Obvious delusions are obvious.

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 20, 2017, 11:05:37 AM
If it's so upsetting to you you could always start your own show and rant about the trivial things that bother you.  ;)
I suppose the other option is to watch somebody who does not start demanding that the free speech of others be curtailed when it upsets him.  Sadly, those sources are getting damn hard to find.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: WOTR on August 20, 2017, 11:10:26 AM
I suppose the other option is to watch somebody who does not start demanding that the free speech of others be curtailed when it upsets him.  Sadly, those sources are getting damn hard to find.

Alex Jones is the reincarnation of Voltaire.

The infowars forum is very heavily monitored and any comments that question or criticise AJ or his bullshit are swiftly removed and the miscreant instantly banned.

WOTR

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 11:18:39 AM
Alex Jones is the reincarnation of Voltaire.

The infowars forum is very heavily monitored and any comments that question or criticise AJ or his bullshit are swiftly removed and the miscreant instantly banned.
Really?  That is hilarious.  I may have to try that just to test it. Posting a comment that respectfully disagrees would be an interesting experiment.  Naturally, it is a private website, and he is free to ban whom he pleases.  It would just be interesting to see if the freedom loving man is open to at least considering ideas that do not support his narrow views.  :)

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 AM
Do you ever notice leftwingers are incapable of telling you what they really want? If you ever want to shut one up, just ask them: "without criticizing Republicans, tell me what you really want". It goes for their ignorant leaders too. On the best day you'll get a cut & paste article, or worthless generalities like: "peace, equality, protect the enviroment" but they have no clue whatsoever how to obtain any of it. They claim to want a John lennon song and then just spout blame and hate.

9/10 are self proclaimed libertarian. (All leftwingers who smoke weed are). Look at Bill Maher, he claims to be one. He's a joke lemming. They're all registered independents. But have never voted for a single Republican ever. It's like someone once said I want weed legal so I'm a libertarian. And they all jumped on board. As though that's the only thing libertarians stand for..

Their closemindness creates this desperation to project independent thinking but none are independent thinkers  None are libertarians. None can think for themselves. They've bastardized science into claiming closeminded consensus is actually a part of science. It's the exact opposite of science.

Look at anyone who posts pro leftwing comments here. You will never see a well thought out argument. You will never see facts sited. You will never see anything you can find common ground on. They will never tell you what they want or how they think we can get there. They have been brainwashed to just hate the right. And now it's all demokkkrats and their lemmings stand for. They literally have no leadership, no platform whatsoever other than hate. It's sad and it comes from the top down. Demokkkrat politicians to DemokkkratMedia to universities and the public school industry. It's an ignorant and miserable existence and I'm very happy to not have any part of it.

The brighter of the easily led followers will respond with some undefined reference to ''equality'', and then whatever the current issue is:  gay marriage, trans in the military, police shootings, KKK dmonstrations.  It's why Media is constantly coming up with something new when people are tired of the last one.  Of course there are always new angles to exploit on old favorites - gays, police, guns, etc.  They've been trained to consider any further questions as aggression from evil people, and to respond with anger, name calling, and accusations.  Oh, and they are certainly against racism (no one else is, you see, just them), and easily dog-whistled to be against anything they are told is associated with it - whether it actually is or not.

The people taking advantage to secure positions for themselves - college professors, journalists, people seeking and holding public office, Hollywood actors, as well as those in other areas of life trying to advance due to their ''goodness'' are adept at virtue signalling their political correctness.

It's the masterminds that lead this movement who know what they are doing and why.  They want a one-world, left-wing, fascist government run by them.  And they've learned how to how to divide, how to tap into frustration, and how to maniplate well meaning people.  Of course they're not going to tell us what it is they really want.  Just the opposite, they need to hide it. 

Juan

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 11:18:39 AM
Alex Jones is the reincarnation of Voltaire.
I was thinking Robespierre, but at least we're both thinking French.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 11:18:39 AM
Alex Jones is the reincarnation of Voltaire.

The infowars forum is very heavily monitored and any comments that question or criticise AJ or his bullshit are swiftly removed and the miscreant instantly banned.

LOL.  Voltaire is turning over in his grave. Alex Jones is a screaming Neanderthal flim-flam man.  He exploits everything to his benefit. I've never bothered posting on the forum.  What is the point when there is no diversity of opinion there?

Quote from: =Schlyder= on August 20, 2017, 10:28:02 AM
Left wing Liberal Progressives only claim being libertarian when outside the company of other Liberal Progressives.  They are trying and in some aspect succeeding in infiltrating the Libertarian movement.

Like that Miser person pretending to be an older man, thinking that's mostly who is on Bellgab and that those posters would be more apt to listen to her.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 20, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
Well, he may not be Hitlerian but if he's willing to try to gain power this way he doesn't have my confidence...

It wouldn't be him making the decision.  I sincerely doubt he wants Trump to be forced out, or put in a position of feeling he needs resign. 

But the reality is he is the VP, and he would need to step up.

I don't care one way or another about any politician.  Its about policy, what legislation is enacted or not enacted, the direction of the country - not personalities.  Who cares about Donald Trump the person?  Don't even know the guy, he seems like a jerk, but loves the country and wanted to set it back on track.  And he wasn't the evil, dispicable, Hilary Clinton. 

If Pence gets in, we still want the agenda pushed through, if not then he's just another Rino to be despised.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on August 20, 2017, 11:43:41 AM
It wouldn't be him making the decision.  I sincerely doubt he wants Trump to be forced out, or put in a position of feeling he needs resign. 

But the reality is he is the VP, and he would need to step up.

I don't care one way or another about any politician.  Its about policy, what legislation is enacted or not enacted, the direction of the country - not personalities.  Who cares about Donald Trump the person?  Don't even know the guy, he seems like a jerk, but loves the country and wanted to set it back on track.  And he wasn't the evil, dispicable, Hilary Clinton. 

If Pence gets in, we still want the agenda pushed through, if not then he's just another Rino to be despised.

I only care about the politician to the extent that whoever is elected should be given a fair chance.  The left has used the foulest of tactics and lies to sabotage Trump's presidency and if they were to succeed in forcing him from office it would be tantamount to a coup and would be ruinous to our system of government.  It would set the stage for endless counter-coups and political mayhem such as that seen in Venezuela and various other third world countries.  (Yeah, I know that some would say that all that is going on in this Counttry as we speak.)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: WOTR on August 20, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
Really?  That is hilarious.  I may have to try that just to test it. Posting a comment that respectfully disagrees would be an interesting experiment.  Naturally, it is a private website, and he is free to ban whom he pleases.  It would just be interesting to see if the freedom loving man is open to at least considering ideas that do not support his narrow views.  :)

Good luck with that! I can't remember the details but I registered (after seeing the thread that interested me) and posted a question related to FEMA camps. It was the time (2009) he was predicting that those who refused the flu jab, would be interned and forced to have the flu jab-I think he was suggesting it was the host for a drug that makes Americans think the Kardashians have a point or somesuch nonsense. I asked very politely that if it didnt happen, would AJ offer a full apology to those who had been taken in. Answer there was none and later I couldn't log in because it didn't accept my IP address. The same happened with the UFO thing site...oh and Kerry Cassidy. All because I asked what if they were wrong..  ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 20, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
I only care about the politician to the extent that whoever is elected should be given a fair chance.  The left has used the foulest of tactics and lies to sabotage Trump's presidency and if they were to succeed in forcing him from office it would be tantamount to a coup and would be ruinous to our system of government.  It would set the stage for endless counter-coups and political mayhem such as that seen in Venezuela and various other third world countries.  (Yeah, I know that some would say that all that is going on as we speak.)

No-one has sabotaged Trump more than Trump. He treats the post as an extension of his family and their businesses. He hasn't even tried to disguise that. He makes 'policy' by twitter and then whines like the toddler he is when people take him seriously, claiming he was joking, or not taking him seriously because what he tweets or says outloud is preposterous shite. He cannot and has never taken responsibilty for anything he's ever done wrong. Ever. He always blames someone else.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 12:24:17 PM
No-one has sabotaged Trump more than Trump. He treats the post as an extension of his family and their businesses. He hasn't even tried to disguise that. He makes 'policy' by twitter and then whines like the toddler he is when people take him seriously, claiming he was joking, or not taking him seriously because what he tweets or says outloud is preposterous shite. He cannot and has never taken responsibilty for anything he's ever done wrong. Ever. He always blames someone else.

So you advocate the use of lies and political thuggery to over through a duly elected President.  You have just given us clear incite into your personal code of ethics.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 20, 2017, 12:28:47 PM
So you advocate the use of lies and political thuggery to over through a duly elected President.  You have just given us clear incite into your personal code of ethics.

Which lies are these? Be specific. The one about why Flynn resigned/ got fired? The one about how Trump distanced himself from Manafort, after he'd hand picked him as campaign manager? The one about how he got the AG and DAG to pen the recommendation to fire Comey (disparaging Clinton) only later for Trump to tell Lester Holt he'd decided to fire Comey anyway because of the Russia investigation looking into Flynn? The one about his family's ties to Russian banks? How about his insistence hed never met Putin, after twice saying in TV interviews he knew and liked him?
And who can forget the published e mails exchanged twixt Jr and Kushner and his UK fixer to get dirt on Clinton via Russian agents? That Jr admitted to after he was told the e mails were there. But in typical Trump 'style', They at first deny and then change that to 'so what if we/I did?'  It isn't as if collaborating with a hostile nation is a crime...Well, yeah, it is. It was even funnier when they changed the story to a meeting about adoptions; Conflating (As only Trumps can) two entirely separate issues.  ;D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 20, 2017, 12:38:11 PM
Which lies are these? Be specific. The one about why Flynn resigned/ got fired? The one about how Trump distanced himself from Manafort, after he'd hand picked him as campaign manager? The one about how he got the AG and DAG to pen the recommendation to fire Comey (disparaging Clinton) only later for Trump to tell Lester Holt he'd decided to fire Comey anyway because of the Russia investigation looking into Flynn? The one about his family's ties to Russian banks? How about his insistence hed never met Putin, after twice saying in TV interviews he knew and liked him?

Has any of that been part of an acknowledged and highly coordinated effort to sabotage the President and impair his government because of an election defeat?  You seem to be trying to find a moral equivalent toTrump's peccadillos in the treasonous actions of the left.  Your raging hardon for Trump together with your socialist tendencies allow you to rationalize any and all crimes committed by the left.    But then, socialists are basically amoral and their ethics are situational so there is no appealing to any consistent personal standards of honesty in them. 

Gd5150

Just a few of the 200 million Americans who can still think for themselves. It's nice to see people who refuse to be enslaved by the hate of the left.


https://youtu.be/fkpK8ga4K_g

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 20, 2017, 01:13:16 PM
Has any of that been part of an acknowledged and highly coordinated effort to sabotage the President and impair his government because of an election defeat?  You seem to be trying to find a moral equivalent toTrump's peccadillos in the treasonous actions of the left.  Your raging hardon for Trump together with your socialist tendencies allow you to rationalize any and all crimes committed by the left.    But then, socialists are basically amoral and their ethics are situational so there is no appealing to any consistent personal standards of honesty in them.



Oh wait on now.... Trump was one of the principal advocates from about 2011 to oust Obama via the 'birther' movement. He said (with no proof) that he'd a detective in Hawaii looking into documents he could not believe.. Then, whatyaknow...Come inauguration Trump denies he even believed that!

"Trump's peccadillos" LOL..You're cute.. Threatening Venezuela with military action. Milking the applause to make him look good after inviting the widow of a killed SEAL to his inauguration get together in the house.
Threatening anyone and trying to destroy anyone who disagrees with him for any reason. Behaving like a petulant toddler each and every time the news reports some idiotic shit he's tweeted..Top tip. DON'T FUCKING TWEET!  Trump's peccadillos, might get us all killed. He's way out of his depth in a job he doesn't particularly like because it involves thinking. Something he's never really had to do except when it comes to scamming people.

Gd5150

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on August 20, 2017, 11:26:03 AM
Of course they're not going to tell us what it is they really want.  Just the opposite, they need to hide it.

But of course. It's the famous Pilosi doctrine. You have to pass it in order to find out what's in it. We have to elect them to find out what they're going to do. No thanks, we already know what they want.

They do have an agenda. Their lemming followers have no clue what it is. But it is kept in the bowels along with their other wonderful plans. Same place they kept Obamacare, Affordable Healthcare Act, path to single payer government controlled healthcare, for the last half a century.

In an astonishing illustration of what a great leader Reagan was and was to become, give this a listen. It's his assessment of socialized medicine (Obamacare for the lemmings), 50 years before the DemoKKKRats government health insurance scam was passed. He may as well have delivered this speach yesterday. Nothing has changed with the simple minded predictability of the left. It's truly Nostradamian.


https://youtu.be/AYrlDlrLDSQ



Quote from: Gd5150 on August 20, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Just a few of the 200 million Americans who can still think for themselves. It's nice to see people who refuse to be enslaved by the hate of the left.


https://youtu.be/fkpK8ga4K_g

I'm surprised CBullShit had the guts to air the segment.  That network was spinning the Charlottesville nonsense to the point of lying.  I think the whole Charlottesville mess was a setup to increase tensions and make it easier for the left to force their agenda down our throats. I think the Kessler dude is a hard leftist who disguises himself as a racist activist.  He used to run with the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 20, 2017, 01:48:30 PM
I'm surprised CBullShit had the guts to air the segment.  That network was spinning the Charlottesville nonsense to the point of lying.  I think the Kessler dude is a hard leftist who disguises himself as a racist activist.  He used to run with the Occupy Wall Street crowd.  I think the whole Charlottesville mess was a setup to increase tensions and make it easier for the left to force their agenda down our throats.
Nothing would surprise me, but that CBS put that segment on did! The producer will get a "talking to" no doubt.

The leaders of the so-called "unite the right" has been outed as a former Obama adherent and leftist, who also tweeted that he takes "xanax, ambein, and drinks" and "does things he doesn't remember," this after he poured more gas on the fire by tweeting insults about the woman who was run over and murdered at the rally. And one hears rumors of CL ads advertising to pay protestors at Trump, and other, events. Many of the leftists are afraid to show their faces, so you don't really know who they are? Organic people or people that go form city to city to riot? They clearly are not rational and do not want any kind of debate or logical/peaceful negotiation or discussion. Soros, and others of his ilk, have given money to various groups. People like David Duke survive on crap like this and the freaks from all sides love the attention a riot gives and there are plenty of 'useless idiots' out there. So it all could be orchestrated, or initially orchestrated but that got out of control. And most politicians and city leaders are so afraid of the label "racist" that they make rash decisions without public comment or input (like to tell cops to stand down, remove statues in the dark of night, instantly excuse the leftist's behavior, etc.)

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