President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

Not in Britain. lol

Yeah well they have to add a u to every word that has an o there. It's the law. 

[Taaroa]

Ha. Hopefully, I doubt it but one can hope, Trump will use this an another excuse to end the Obama deal to take Muslim "refugees" from Australia. Let them keep them on their various island leased prison refugee camps or even, if they are really dumb, into their country, but we don't want them here. And this is a good excuse as any, especially since Trump tends to be a bit thin-skinned about humor. Cancel the Australian "refugee" deal, Trump- and announce it by Twitter!   

No one wants them - in fact they all have the choice of returning to their own country (with free money) or resettlement in Papua New Guinea or Cambodia, they just refuse to choose and decry Australia as being 'evil'.

[albrecht]

No one wants them - in fact they all have the choice of returning to their own country (with free money) or resettlement in Papua New Guinea or Cambodia, they just refuse to choose and decry Australia as being 'evil'.

Obama wanted them, but, then again, he had a specific agenda for this country. I like the Papua New Guinea idea: Head-hunting, brain-eaters versus throat-slitting rapists. Could be a Fox/Sky reality show in the making! (I'm kidding, I know most Pacific Islanders have long stopped that traditional practice- and even when it was limited to a few areas. The Muslims, on the other hand, have proven still quite adept at their violent pass-times.) But, hopefully, neither Australia or the USA will import them.

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/875566721607712768

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/11thHour/status/875570528475529220

[SredniVashtar]

Banned?  Absolutely not.  Corporate sponsors shamed into defunding - yes.  Public money withdrawn - yes.  Secret Service arranging a ''discussion'' with the various people involved - yes.  Depending on the Secret Service findings, possible arrest and prosecution of the various people involved - yes.  Banned?  Nah.

Isn't it the UK, who banned Michael Savage while letting people threatening the Queen and teach hate and subversion in their mosques roam free?  Or as Pud has mentioned many times, allowed Gerry Adams to roam free, while being put out that we didn't do anything about him when he would come to the US?  In other words we don't need lectures from you on any of this, so kindly butt out. 

How is the prosecution of the Moslem pedophiles coming along anyway - has a Sharia court there let them off?

So, you want things you dislike banned, you're just not prepared to say so. You rely on the leader not to abuse these 'discussions' with the secret service. People like you are very dangerous because you never look beyond the immediate problem. Someone like Trump would use any leverage he could to intimidate opponents and you would sit back and let him do it.

I'm not responsible for what my govt does and neither are you. Adams is free because he hasn't committed a crime. Countries can let people in at their discretion, the decision isn't up to me. You would probably be in favour of 'pre-crime' too, telling yourself that it's all for our own good. And it's people like you who continually bore us about the dangers of govt tyranny!

[SredniVashtar]

Being this disingenuous, lol.  Charming how you vacillate from a transparently asspained media drunk shill, to a measured salesman. Look lads, it's all the same, with one exception of course, the real danger of fascism!  It's like watching any of the morally repugnant DNC shills fumble through interviews, wearing poor approximations of smiles to sell the public on their rubbish.

There isn't much here worth responding to. I'm guessing you're in your twenties and feel intimidated by anything outside your own narrow experience. Try not to let it show next time.

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/875459853170462720
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875441788110110727

[Gd5150]

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/875566721607712768

Still no evidence. And the loser DemocratMedia continues on in their fantasy world as lemmings copy and paste their worthless discussions.

[malachi.martini]

you're in your twenties and feel intimidated by anything outside your own narrow experience

How many blokes have to hear this after you ply them with pints?

[SredniVashtar]

How many blokes have to hear this after you ply them with pints?

I rarely require the assistance of intoxicating fluids to get my way. I can't help noticing, though, that this faltering mating ritual you are engaged in needs to be pepped up a bit. You're going to need to show a bit more game than you have heretofore if you are to persuade me out of my trousers and into my silk kimono.

[PB the Deplorable]

... People like you are very dangerous because you never look beyond the immediate problem...

You mean like the Libs, with their solution to everything being to create more programs and spend more money?

[PB the Deplorable]

... Adams is free because he hasn't committed a crime...

Then what has Pud been going on about?

[PB the Deplorable]

... And it's people like you who continually bore us about the dangers of govt tyranny!

I see.  So to you anyone advocating the rule of law is really advocating tyranny, just like anyone advocating a smaller government is really advocating no government at all? 

[SredniVashtar]

Then what is Pud going on about?

No idea. There used to be a law that prevented him being broadcast on TV, which people got around by dubbing his voice with someone else's. Maybe that's what he meant but they haven't done that for years.

[SredniVashtar]

I see.  So to you anyone advocating the rule of law is really advocating tyranny, just like anyone advocating a smaller government is really advocating no government at all?

Don't be naughty. You are advocating a discretionary rule where the leader decides what is and isn't acceptable. These secret service discussions would be abused. If you think portraying Trump as Caesar is equivalent to recommending assassination you are a million miles off the mark.

[SredniVashtar]

You mean like the Libs, with their solution to everything being to create more programs and spend more money?

Oh, go and stand in the corner. I think there is a balance like everything else. I don't think people should preach deregulation willy nilly as if it is the solution to everything. Workers always risk being abused by their employers, and we shouldn't assume that paying people starvation wages makes for a good economy or a harmonious society. The dirty secret of Western economics is that full employment is undesirable because it is inflationary, and the people at the top need a large pool of people living in poverty, otherwise the rich see their earnings depreciate. If you think your time is best spent fretting about the left and bolstering the interests of the wealthy then that's up to you.

[Meister_000]

Hardball with Chris Matthews 6/15/17
MSNBC June 15, 2017 ~ full show 42mins

https://youtu.be/v739uhfPrNY

[Meister_000]

The Last Word ~ Lawrence O'Donnell
6/15/17 - MSNBC June 15, 2017
full show 42 mins

https://youtu.be/pxUPPFFagDE

[Meister_000]

ffs

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875701471999864833

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/875656965317210112

[The King of Kings]

TRUMP APPROVAL HITS 50% 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jun16

[Kidnostad3]

Oh, go and stand in the corner. I think there is a balance like everything else. I don't think people should preach deregulation willy nilly as if it is the solution to everything. Workers always risk being abused by their employers, and we shouldn't assume that paying people starvation wages makes for a good economy or a harmonious society. The dirty secret of Western economics is that full employment is undesirable because it is inflationary, and the people at the top need a large pool of people living in poverty, otherwise the rich see their earnings depreciate. If you think your time is best spent fretting about the left and bolstering the interests of the wealthy then that's up to you.

Some would say that too often the regulations/statutes themselves are enacted in a wily nilly fashion either as a poorly thought out knee-jerk reaction to exigencies, to satisfy commitments made to monied interests or powerful voting blocs, or to further an ideology-driven agenda that promises much but delivers little and doesn't begin to justify its cost.

Of course,  honest people can disagree but IMHO the left is given to acting on wild-ass social and economic theory concocted and promoted by socialistic academicians who are short on practical experience and insight and long on excuse making when their theories fail as they so often do.  In fact, there have been many instances wherein the measures these giants of the academy and their disciples in the Executive and Legislative Branches of government have succeeded in implementing that have not only proven ineffective but indeed have exacerbated the problem.  (I have come to think of this group of big government socialists as compulsive exacerbaters.)  Allowing for human fallibility, the challenge of rule by consensus and the inevitable horse trading involved therein,  and the ever present risk of unforeseen unintended consequences, my assessment is that the Dems are much more prone to monumental fuck-ups than the Republicans.  I think that examples of this have been well and fairly articulated on this thread. 

I agree that balance in policy making is essential but that requires balanced, pragmatic policy makers who seem to be in short supply nowadays.

[albrecht]

Some would say that too often the regulations/statutes themselves are enacted in a wily nilly fashion either as a poorly thought out knee-jerk reaction to exigencies, to satisfy commitments made to monied interests or powerful voting blocs, or to further an ideology-driven agenda that promises much but delivers little and doesn't begin to justify its cost.

Of course,  honest people can disagree but IMHO the left is given to acting on wild-ass social and economic theory concocted and promoted by socialistic academicians who are short on practical experience and insight and long on excuse making when their theories fail as they so often do.  In fact, there have been many instances wherein the measures these giants of the academy and their disciples in the Executive and Legislative Branches of government have succeeded in implementing that have not only proven ineffective but indeed have exacerbated the problem.  (I have come to think of this group of big government socialists as compulsive exacerbaters.)  Allowing for human fallibility, the challenge of rule by consensus and the inevitable horse trading involved therein,  and the ever present risk of unforeseen unintended consequences, my assessment is that the Dems are much more prone to monumental fuck-ups than the Republicans.  I think that examples of this have been well and fairly articulated on this thread. 

I agree that balance in policy making is essential but that requires balanced, pragmatic policy makers who seem to be in short supply nowadays.

There also is a more non-political or ideological problem. Simple inertia of an ever increasing and centralizing bureaucracy and keeping jobs is a great motivation. Most of our laws and regulations these days are not even voted upon by representatives but simply "made" by bureaucrats in various agencies. Their primary goal is to ensure they have a job and maintain (or increase) their budgets.
www.federalregister.gov Check daily and one will see new and changed regulations that cover just about every single aspect of your life, business, and property. Most never voted on but "entered into," changed, modified, or redefined. This happens on the Federal level but also down to your local government.

When done for political motives it is often done for minority reasons- small, but loud/rich, voices and pressure brought to bear on politicians and bureacrats. Why you see, for example, more "bike lanes" or weird art projects funded by government but not road improvement or things that benefit the majority. Or certain regulation change that benefits a certain specific business or industry group. Because certain groups are very vocal and are obsessed with an issue and so politicians respond. The silent majority is, usually, silent and just going to work, shaking their head at the situation, and just want to get along but don't get involved or, often, even vote, because they figure "you can't fight city hall" and "my vote doesn't matter."

[Gd5150]

Of course,  honest people can disagree but IMHO the left is given to acting on wild-ass social and economic theory concocted and promoted by socialistic academicians who are short on practical experience and insight and long on excuse making when their theories fail as they so often do.

This is because the left/dnc/media functions based on emotion. They care about issues with symbolism not substance. 50k blacks killed in Chicago, nothing. White kills 1 black, holy hell is raised. Tax the rich, does it bring in more revenue? No it decreases revenue, but it feels good. Protect the environment! While trashing it at every protest, function, meeting at some ritz Carlton to pass the flavor of the week "accords" that exempt the largest polluters and cause more pollution just by their existence. Can't have a webinar to discuss it. I could go on, but this is what the D.C. Swamp is all about. Creating symbolic political issues that are never solved. Abortion, minimum wage, "institutional" racism, global climate disruption that is completely unmeasurable and unpreventable. Sure does raise a lot of money though.

[starrmtn001]

LIVE President Donald Trump Delivers A Speech And Signs Bill On Cuba 6/16/2017 Trump Live stream.
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The speech is scheduled for 1:10 PM Eastern Time at the Manuel Artime Theater.

https://youtu.be/IQrlDB48fc0

[starrmtn001]

President Donald Trump Weekly Address 6-16-17.

https://youtu.be/TAX-_FltUFc

[Kidnostad3]

There also is a more non-political or ideological problem. Simple inertia of an ever increasing and centralizing bureaucracy and keeping jobs is a great motivation. Most of our laws and regulations these days are not even voted upon by representatives but simply "made" by bureaucrats in various agencies. Their primary goal is to ensure they have a job and maintain (or increase) their budgets.
www.federalregister.gov Check daily and one will see new and changed regulations that cover just about every single aspect of your life, business, and property. Most never voted on but "entered into," changed, modified, or redefined. This happens on the Federal level but also down to your local government.

When done for political motives it is often done for minority reasons- small, but loud/rich, voices and pressure brought to bear on politicians and bureacrats. Why you see, for example, more "bike lanes" or weird art projects funded by government but not road improvement or things that benefit the majority. Or certain regulation change that benefits a certain specific business or industry group. Because certain groups are very vocal and are obsessed with an issue and so politicians respond. The silent majority is, usually, silent and just going to work, shaking their head at the situation, and just want to get along but don't get involved or, often, even vote, because they figure "you can't fight city hall" and "my vote doesn't matter."

The inertia you refer to is comparable to the law of gravity except that in my experience the gravitational pull of an expanding government in terms of its manpower and fiscal requirements is not directly proportional to the increase in its mass--it always far exceeds it unless some sort of zero sum offset is applied

Also, when measures are implemented to decrease the size of the federal work force by a reduction in force (RIF) through program reduction/realignment or assignment of functions to a commercial activity (contractor) the expected savings are almost never realized because, strangely enough, such measures often coincide with "emergent high priority tasking."  These "dragons" that rear their ugly heads at very convenient times of course need slaying.   In one particular instance that I can recall, all civil service positions slated for elimination were retained with the incumbent in place as were the contractors brought on as their replacements. That must have been one badass dragon. 

[NowhereInTime]

God, what cesspool of alt-right idiocy these threads have become.
Here, in Dystopia, Donald Trump is a real President doing real good. Nevermind the hypocrisy of his abundant use of Executive Orders (you know, when not repeatedly struck down by courts), nevermind his constant conflicts of interest (like his recent Cuba policy which will hurt his hotel competitors more than anything else), nevermind that even Republicans can't pass anything he wants (because his "policies" come on a single sheet of triple spaced 20 point font), and especially nevermind that he's a traitor more loyal to race, wealth, and self than country.
No, here in the sewers of Bellgab, he's a hero thwarted by snowflakes, cucks, and libtards from "making America great again".
Whatever it is you snort, shoot, pop, or huff, please send some my way. It's got to be the best shit ever.

[The King of Kings]

God, what cesspool of alt-right idiocy these threads have become.
Here, in Dystopia, Donald Trump is a real President doing real good. Nevermind the hypocrisy of his abundant use of Executive Orders (you know, when not repeatedly struck down by courts), nevermind his constant conflicts of interest (like his recent Cuba policy which will hurt his hotel competitors more than anything else), nevermind that even Republicans can't pass anything he wants (because his "policies" come on a single sheet of triple spaced 20 point font), and especially nevermind that he's a traitor more loyal to race and self than country.
No, here in the sewers of Bellgab, he's a hero, thwarted by snowflakes, cucks, and libtards from "making America great again.
Whatever it is you snort, shoot, pop, or huff, please send some my way. It's got to be the best shit ever.

If you support Donald Trump, somehow you are "alt-right", this comment is followed by you calling those, idiots.

A little self-reflection is in order for you.

Especially when it is the cultural terrorist left that created a climate in which some liberal terrorist attempted political assassination against a group of people who had different political views.

President Donald Trump isn't a traitor.  He loves his country and doesn't want to see it turn into the third world shit hole that is Europe, with increased terrorism, and increased rape and murder.

If you want to build bridges for extremist muslim immigrants, and criminal mexican immigrants, move to Canada. 

Lastly, any liberal who hadn't criticized President Obongo during his eight years of catastrophe as President, is a little bit odd, to suddenly throw around words like "hypocrisy".